From: owner-harbinger-digest@smoe.org (harbinger-digest) To: harbinger-digest@smoe.org Subject: harbinger-digest V2 #79 Reply-To: harbinger@smoe.org Sender: owner-harbinger-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-harbinger-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk harbinger-digest Friday, September 26 1997 Volume 02 : Number 079 HARBINGER DIGEST To post, mail harbinger@smoe.org To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger-digest To get list info file, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info harbinger-digest Today's Subjects: ---------------- (harbinger) about BAM [Fragments1@aol.com] (harbinger) Paula Who [bobs@virtualone.com (Bob Smith)] (harbinger) Paula ONLY [bobs@virtualone.com (Bob Smith)] Re: (harbinger)Tori and Sarah question... [ASIS143@aol.com] (harbinger) Re: Talk,talk,talk [RMest22585@aol.com] Re: (harbinger)Tori and Sarah question... [HRHAnneX@aol.com] Re: (harbinger)Tori and Sarah question... [Casey ] Re: (harbinger) Newbie introduction, IDWTW single [Sven Luetkemeier Also, anybody know what "Building a Mystery" is about?? I've been trying >hard to figure it out, but it's just beyond me. >'BaM' is pretty straight-foward actually. It's about, essentially, a >"beautiful fucked up man". In other words, the person Sarah is referring >to in the song is beautiful, popular, mysterious, intriguing, etc; etc. >All those things that are supposed to make people cool. But, the point >is, that in trying so hard to be all those things, in trying to be >"cool", you lose yourself. You lose your identity and your emotions. >Perhaps even your ability to relate to others on a "human level". >> I dunno, for awile my friend and I have been discussing the meaning of this song. We have come to the conclusion that there is a slight chance of this detailing the stalker? Does anyone agree? If you listen to a lot of the lyrics you can clearly get that idea. But who knows, its also contradicted by "beautiful fucked up man" and such. Just a thought....... Kate - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 20:59:11 -0400 (EDT) From: RMest22585@aol.com Subject: (harbinger) Re: Talk,talk,talk All this talk about Tori is boring, she is a wonnab !! a KATE BUSH wont-a-be. she whishes. RM - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 21:23:07 -0400 (EDT) From: HRHAnneX@aol.com Subject: Re: (harbinger)Tori and Sarah question... You see the lines of BAM that intrigued/confused me are: "a cross from a faith that died before Jesus came..." "woke up screaming loud a prayer from your secret god, you feed off of fears..." "give us the tantrum and know-it-all grin" "beautiful with an ancient charm" At first I thought it was about the devil, but then I couldn't pinpoint it. Anyway, thanks for your help!! - --Anne - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Sep 97 21:51:17 -0000 From: Casey Subject: Re: (harbinger)Tori and Sarah question... >song. We have come to the conclusion that there is a slight chance of this >detailing the stalker? Does anyone agree? If you listen to a lot of the >lyrics you can clearly get that idea. But who knows, its also contradicted by >"beautiful fucked up man" and such. Well, I can see where you're coming from ... but really *listen* to the lyrics and I think you'll see why it's not. Other than "beautiful fucked up man", and the line "...so careful when I'm in your arms". I don't think she was ever in the stalker's arms. There are some more lines, but I won't waste anymore mailbox space w/ them ;) - -Casey P.S. besides, she already wrote a song about the stalker ... "Possession" - -C. - -+-+-+-+--+-+-+-+--+-+-+-+--+-+-+-+--+-+-+-+--+-+-+-+--+-+-+-+- casey@tisd.net http://www.tisd.net/~casey/ "If I shed a tear, I won't cage it ... if I feel a rage I won't deny it ... I won't fear love" - -Sarah McLachlan "I have my own parties. They involve being barefoot with a piece of fried chicken and a margarita in each hand." - -Tori Amos - -+-+-+-+--+-+-+-+--+-+-+-+--+-+-+-+--+-+-+-+--+-+-+-+--+-+-+-+- - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 00:15:53 +0200 From: Sven Luetkemeier Subject: Re: (harbinger) Newbie introduction, IDWTW single Hi Corey, At 4:35 +0200 25.09.1997, Corey Dufort wrote: > My name is Corey and I live in Canada, the land of Sarah McLachalan and > high alcohol level beer. I've been wanting to sub to this list for a while > now but had never got around to it. I am also on the Sarah FTE list. It might be off-topic, but I finally picked up my first Sarah CD today. I chose "Surfacing", but I didn't know much about Sarah's music before and after this first few hours with Surfacing I'm very very happy that I picked it up. BTW, when I was in the record shop ("Saturn" in Cologne, Germany - the city where the KOELSCH beer is being made ;-) ), I saw the IDWTW Single. It had 3 tracks: IDWTW, Hitler's Brothers and Bethlehem. I didn't pick it up, allthough I not perfectly sure whether these are just the album versions, but since there wasn't any kind of additonal info given... > I have seen Paula twice in concert. One was 2 years ago. and that is when > I discovered her talent. > My second time was at the Lilith fair in NY. Lilith fair must be a fantastic experience. Hopefully, we Europeans get our chance to see it next year :-) > seeing her sing there was truly a religious experince. It took days to get > it out of my mind. I couldn't find better words for this. (And especially don't now, it's a little late right now :) ) Kind regards, Sven - -- Sven Luetkemeier mailto:luetkem@uni-duesseldorf.de http://www-public.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de/~luetkem - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 23:29:08 PDT From: "mark boyle" Subject: Re: (harbinger) do you know what this is doing to me? very well put!!!! thanks for your wise words...i agree...mb >From owner-harbinger@smoe.org Mon Sep 22 20:30:40 1997 >Received: from jane.smoe.org (majordom@smoe.org [204.167.97.154]) > by relay1.shore.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA10319; > Mon, 22 Sep 1997 23:30:32 -0400 (EDT) >Received: from localhost by jane.smoe.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4-listq-jane) > id XAA01447; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 23:30:09 -0400 >Received: by jane.smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Mon, 22 Sep 1997 23:30:06 -0400 >Received: by jane.smoe.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4-listq-jane) > id XAA01415; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 23:28:04 -0400 >Received: from ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU by jane.smoe.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4-daemon-mode-relay2) > id XAA01411; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 23:27:50 -0400 >Received: from localhost (matbonlt@localhost) > by ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA29747; > Tue, 23 Sep 1997 13:26:00 +1000 (AEST) >Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 13:26:00 +1000 (AEST) >From: Sara >X-Sender: matbonlt@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU >To: Jason >cc: harbinger@smoe.org >Subject: Re: (harbinger) do you know what this is doing to me? >In-Reply-To: >Message-ID: >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >Sender: owner-harbinger@smoe.org >Reply-To: harbinger@smoe.org >Precedence: bulk > > >I've been reading all these comments comparing Sarah M with Tori and i >think once again people are comparing two female artists on the basis of >who is better and at the same time downgrading each one of them. They are >both two unique artists in their own right. The >competition that is being created between them is unfair to both of them. >Tori and Sarah have been friends for a while now. To say that Tori point >blankly said no to the Lilith tour is wrong, she was at the time recording >stuff for the Great Expectations soundtrack, writing her new album, and >having a break before she records again and then undertakes another >massive world tour. Sarah did a wonderful job in orchastrating the Lilith >tour and her album is beautiful, however there is the problem that the >tracks on it do not stand out but as an album its a great listen. > >As for the comment about Marianne i heard it was about the death of a >childhood friend and the way the women and men in that town tried to cover >it up and make it look 'clean' by saying it was an accident, but Tori >didn't agree with them. > >Whatever your impression of each artist be happy for them that as women in >a male dominated industry they have achieved the success they have without >completely losing their own identity or sacrificing their unique style of >music. > >Sara > > >------------------------------ >To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe harbinger > >Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: >http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html >For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ End of harbinger-digest V2 #79 ******************************