From: owner-harbinger-digest@smoe.org (harbinger-digest) To: harbinger-digest@smoe.org Subject: harbinger-digest V2 #36 Reply-To: harbinger@smoe.org Sender: owner-harbinger-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-harbinger-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk harbinger-digest Tuesday, August 12 1997 Volume 02 : Number 036 HARBINGER DIGEST To post, mail harbinger@smoe.org To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger-digest To get list info file, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info harbinger-digest Today's Subjects: ---------------- (harbinger) Paula in Europe [sstewart@NTCGEN01HE.ntc.nokia.com (Stewart S] Re: (harbinger) discussing stuff -Reply [Jason ] (harbinger) detroit show [Chris Tower ] (harbinger) On-stage personnae ["Susan F." ] Re: (harbinger) On-stage personnae [luvksym90_1@juno.com (Michael George ] Re: (harbinger) Paula in Europe [Sven Luetkemeier ] Re: (harbinger) nekyia cowboys [Honoku@aol.com] Re: (harbinger) nekyia cowboys [Chris Povie ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 10:59:09 +0300 From: sstewart@NTCGEN01HE.ntc.nokia.com (Stewart Steven NTC/INP-He) Subject: (harbinger) Paula in Europe Someone posted that Paula was coming to Europe. Does anyone have any dates or venues? (I live in Finland.) Also, has IDWTW been released as a CD single yet in the US? If so, what are the track listings? Any remixes coming? Thanks in advance steve steven.stewart@ntc.nokia.com - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 06:56:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Jason Subject: Re: (harbinger) discussing stuff -Reply On Mon, 11 Aug 1997, Chris Povie wrote: > Chris Povie > p.s. Jason: I'm not sure, but I don't think 'disdain' can be used as a > verb, as in "you may disdain those folks". You would, I believe, > "*Have* disdain *for* those folks." :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) > Chris, the next time you want to correct someone's English, open a freakin' dictionary first: disdain vt 1. to look on with scorn 2. to refuse or abstain from because of disdain syn see DESPISE Jason - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 09:24:55 -0400 From: Chris Tower Subject: (harbinger) detroit show Katie and Tina wrote: >>YEP! Once again we are soooo lucky to live in Detroit! Paula is one o= f 8 artists doing a sold-out concert sponspored by a local radio station! = Other artists of note are Echo&The Bunnymen and INXS.... We'll be there!<= < At least it's sold out. That's a small consolation. I am down in Kalamazo= o but that day (8/24) I am on vacation up north! Were you at Lilith Fair? Wasn't that a GREAT show???!!!! - --chris tower - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 97 09:50:42 -0400 From: "Susan F." Subject: (harbinger) On-stage personnae >To put in some Paula content, the two times I've seen her she's been >amazingly down to earth and *real*. Genuinely appreciative of her >audience's adulation. She'd better come back to Seattle when she returns >to the US this fall. :-) > >Dave I know Paula personally, and i believe that you have put it quite well, Dave; she seems to me to be truly grateful, not humbled (good thing), and not really surprised by her success because she has always known she had it, and she has worked for it, and deserves it, but it has been interesting to watch her stage presence develop over the years. In the beginning she was very shy on stage, especially when she played the piano, she would get very introspective and it was hard to hear her lyrics sometimes, more reserved even than Sarah was on some songs when I saw her with Paula in Boston a few years ago. All of them have greatly changed their stage performances over the years. We have to remember, guys, that Fiona is very young (20, I think) and new to this. She will change much before our eyes, which is fun to watch. When I saw her at Great Woods in July, she was obviously trying to establish a connection with the audience, but sometimes it was too much, while I am sure it was genuine (disagree with you, Kenn, but maybe we saw different shows), at least once she sounded like one of the squealing teen-age girls in the audience; once she started to tell the story behind a song, got confused, and said something like, "Oh, maybe I'd better just play it." The people I was with were struck by how mature her songs, lyrics and voice sounded (knowing how youmg she was), and the band was pretty tight. In other words, the music and the performance (she moved quite a bit on stage, maybe about the same amount as Paula) were quite developed. It was only when she spoke to the audience that she sounded rather young and inexperienced, but not shy, I got the feeling she was trying out different things, and trying to be who she genuinely is, which as we all know changes rather rapidly at twenty, or maybe it is that there are so many different parts of oneself to display on stage. Anyway, we enjoyed her performance very much. In fact, we thought she was the third best act after Paula. We actually enjoyed Tracy Chapman as much as anyone at GW Lillith. We had just seen Paula recently and knew she would be great and she did not disappoint. However, it has been a few years since we have seen Tracy and while we thought she was great then, we were pleasantly surprised at how much her whole stage show has improved. She relates just slightly more to the audience during her singing, her band is terrific, her voice as good as ever, and she has so many great songs. Anyway, it has been interesting and fun to watch these sisters develop. And they themselves seem to enjoy watching and mentoring a younger one; at least that is what I got out of the magazine article Anyway, I wish all of you could have watched Paula grow as a performer as I have for more than 10 years. I think it is exciting that all of us are going to be able to watch Fiona grow and change together during her 20's. I would think that in many ways it must be more difficult for a performer to have to grow and develop in front of her audience from a young age. Tracy has changed the least over the years that I have watched her of the 4 women I've mentioned here, I believe, because she was the oldest when we first met her. I guess this is true of anyone in any field, musicians are just more public. So if you get the chance, I think you shouldn't miss Fiona's next stage show, Dave, because if you do you will certainly miss seeing a great performer develop. I love her CD too, but staying home and listening to her on disc, just does not compare with going to see her grow in person, if I have the option. - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 10:37:17 EDT From: luvksym90_1@juno.com (Michael George Fulcher) Subject: Re: (harbinger) On-stage personnae On Mon, 11 Aug 97 09:50:42 -0400 "Susan F." writes: >>To put in some Paula content, the two times I've seen her she's been >>amazingly down to earth and *real*. Genuinely appreciative of her >>audience's adulation. She'd better come back to Seattle when she >returns>>to the US this fall. :-) >> >>Dave > >I know Paula personally, and i believe that you have put it quite >well, Anyway, I wish all of >>you could have watched Paula grow as a performer as I have for more >than >10 years. I think it is exciting that all of us are going to be able >to >watch Fiona grow and change together during her 20's. I would think >that >in many ways it must be more difficult for a performer to have to grow >>and develop in front of her audience from a young age. Tracy has >changed >the least over the years that I have watched her of the 4 women I've>mentioned here, I believe, because she was the oldest when we first >met >her. I guess this is true of anyone in any field, musicians are just >more >public. So if you get the chance, I think you shouldn't miss Fiona's >next >stage show, Dave, because if you do you will certainly miss seeing a >great performer develop. I love her CD too, but staying home and >listening to her on disc, just does not compare with going to see her >grow in person, if I have the option. > The internet has changed many things including the marketing of musical artists. How does an artist reach out when her album sold out it first printing and she is ready to go back into the studio in September? Yes another website: www.thelatest.com Terri Hendrix: Texas singer/songwiter showcases her sold out album ALLOFIT at this solution to the question above. NP: "2dolahshuz" Terri Hendrix BOOK HER!! (512)479-9374 > - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 14:41:10 +0200 From: Sven Luetkemeier Subject: Re: (harbinger) Paula in Europe At 9:59 +0200 11.08.1997, Stewart Steven NTC/INP-He wrote: > Someone posted that Paula was coming to Europe. Does anyone have any dates > or venues? (I live in Finland.) The tour dates can be found through Pollstar's website (http://www.pollstar.com). I might be wrong, but I'm afraid that she's only touring in Middle-Europe. Regards, - -- Sven Luetkemeier mailto:luetkem@uni-duesseldorf.de You can be scared when http://www-public.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de/~luetkem it gets too real... (FZ) - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 18:59:29 -0500 From: "Jessica K. Bacon" Subject: (harbinger) End of summer cd sale Okay. I'm getting rid of some cd's. Anyone who wants them please mail me privately. I'll pay the postage to send them to buyers. cd's for $25: Indigo Girls- "Uptown Girls" (bootleg) R.E.M.- "Where Am I?" (bootleg) cd's for $10: Adam Sandler- "They're all gonna laugh at you" David Gilmour- "About face" Gentle Giant- "Octopus" Jethro Tull- "Original Masters" Tom Petty- "Wildflowers" Sinead O' Connor- "Am I not your girl?" Styx- "Greatest Hits" Oasis- "What's the story morning glory" The best of kansas Yes- "Close to the Edge" Indigo Girls- "Strange Fire" Tori Amos- "Under the Pink" Adam Sandler- "What the hell happened to me?" Martika Nancy Griffith- "The MCA Years- A retrospective" Seal Enya- "Watermark" Tom Waits- "Small Change" Live- "Mental Jewelry" The truth about cats and dogs- soundtrack Pearl Jam- "No code" Juliana Hatfield 3- "become what you are" kate Bush- "the red shoes" Bjork- "telegram" double cd's - $15 Frank Sinatra- "80th- all the best" Forrest Gump beatles anthology 2 jessica (not for sale) - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 20:54:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Honoku@aol.com Subject: Re: (harbinger) nekyia cowboys rich you make a very good point, and my answer at this point in my thinking is yes, this was still chosen. you and i have opposite points of view, i see myself as part of something, you see yourself as in something. you beleive in yourself as a seperate individual, maybe even self creating, i see myself as a part of something to big for me to fully comprehend,and the what lead to what when followed far enough leads to a unity beyond seperateness. this issue will never be resolved between us, i can hear your criticalness of my unprovable point of view, but consider, how much do you really know. "the world is not only stranger than you think, it is stranger than you can think". anyway aside from that, i would like to propose a smaller more managable idea. that being that we are all much more knowledgeable about each other than we are consciously aware of, but aware of non the less. in the back of our minds in our semi unconscious we know who we are relating to and what a relationship will lead to. again not an idea i would attempt to prove , only one offered as food for thought, with the testament that i have found this to be deeply true in my own experience. the deeper you think, and the deeper your experiences, the less you are fooled by appearances. i beleive we all have a more perceptive mind behind our daily mind, the more perceptive mind chooses the experiences the daily mind goes through. i know i sound a bit out there, and maybe boring but i did want to let rich know i have considered his retort and stand by my mental explorations, and working model of interconectedness. it is hard to answer vague hypothetical situations like you propose about a car crash that didn't happen. in my experience every real situation that does happen makes sence when you go deeper into it. peice - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 00:46:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Povie Subject: Re: (harbinger) nekyia cowboys Hey Honoku...lemme guess: acid dropped twice a day for 4-5 years? - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ End of harbinger-digest V2 #36 ******************************