From: owner-goths-digest@smoe.org (goths-digest) To: goths-digest@smoe.org Subject: goths-digest V3 #106 Reply-To: goths@smoe.org Sender: owner-goths-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-goths-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk goths-digest Sunday, May 23 1999 Volume 03 : Number 106 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: John Waters ["liza metz" ] Re: hate ["liza metz" ] hate.... [MICAH WESTFALL ] hate.... [michele s hardeman ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 22:36:05 PDT From: "liza metz" Subject: Re: John Waters That's right, Hairspray was the first of John Waters' "sell-out" films. I guess at some point it was decided that his movies would play in regular theaters and be distributed by regular motion picture corporations. Oh well. It's not that Pecker wasn't fantastic, because it was, but it feels funny for hime to be making movies with only Mink Stole from the old casts. And without the sex with chickens. I wasn't offended, what's the problem. So, as a quick answer to the question posed a few weeks ago (as that was just after the last time I checked my email), yes, there are other John Waters fans out there, liza pleasance _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 23:25:06 PDT From: "liza metz" Subject: Re: hate Someone asked a question a few messages ago that sums this up: Why isn't it okay to hate? I would think that within this group (ie mostly goths and/or mopey kids) there would be a certain intrinsic tolerance of intolerance. Where do you draw your line on hate? You say you hate humanity. But it's not okay to hate homosexuals. Are they not people? I think that it is absolutely okay to hate. Hate whoever you want. Each and every human being discriminates, whether bigoted or not. Some definitions of the word 'discriminate' are extremely positive. Our culture uses it for this catch-all slur against those who hold certain beliefs. Discriminating tastes seek out the finest of everything. Take a second to think whether your outlandish open-mindedness has allowed people into your life who you do not want there. Think hard. The answer is probably yes. Because human nature is so gross and ikky, there are gross and ikky people in the world. Or maybe they're just misunderstood and need someone open-minded enough to understand them and just give them a chance (sorry, sarcasm doesn't carry...). Go ahead, discriminate. Say that I said it was okay. Say to someone that they are a drooling excuse for a monkey who doesn't deserve to look at you. You'll feel better. All this love-therapy will just supress the parts of us that hate (they're in everyone) and if you try and pretend that they aren't there it'll only make it worse. Hate's a lot like violent tendencies or sexual urges. Sure, it would be nice if they weren't there, but if you don't acknowledge them, there will be eventual reprecussions (okay, well, that's not true. I don't really have a sex drive, but I'm a freak and that's more than you all need to know). Oh, and to close, all sex is guh-ross, with a capital GUH. This is a personal thing, but gay sex is just as yukky as straight sex. And besides, isn't all sex that does not result in conception a sin? food for thought, liza "falling in love with me was your mistake without thinking about the price you'd pay" - -Kristen Hall _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 02:51:02 -0400 From: MICAH WESTFALL Subject: hate.... I personally believe that the only people who truely hate are chistians.... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 03:38:29 -0400 From: michele s hardeman Subject: hate.... although i'm rather late in responding, i'd like to defend christianity. against what micah said. maybe somebody already has, i don't know. i just read his little jot and got incensed. actually, it was such an inane comment i'm not sure how to respond. hm. m ------------------------------ End of goths-digest V3 #106 ***************************