From: owner-goths-digest@smoe.org (goths-digest) To: goths-digest@smoe.org Subject: goths-digest V3 #101 Reply-To: goths@smoe.org Sender: owner-goths-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-goths-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk goths-digest Thursday, May 13 1999 Volume 03 : Number 101 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: gay "cute" boys & john waters [nrc] [Rabdchild0@aol.com] Re: gay "cute" boys & john waters [nrc] [kamikaze kismet ] Re: hey people... ["xoxo jane" ] Re: hey people... ["Rainbow Bright" ] Re: hey people... ["xoxo jane" ] lovely little boyz [ImAZeroSP@aol.com] speaking of lovely little gay boys....(gay bashing MUST stop) [ImAZeroSP@] Re: hey people... [OT] [OneirosV@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:27:41 EDT From: Rabdchild0@aol.com Subject: Re: gay "cute" boys & john waters [nrc] In a message dated 5/11/99 10:28:24 PM Central Daylight Time, cory@shooter.bluemarble.net writes: << and i know that when gays and lesbians get treated as novelties and "cute" strange things it's not only annoying, it's highly degrading as well. >> for one thing, i never meant this to be a degrading statement. it's a "personal" observation. i have many gay and lesbian friends and for myself, i've noticed that for the most part, my gay friends are all very attractive.... i'm sorry you came off so annoyed. maybe if you took the comment for what it actually is, which is an observation, and not a degrading "stereotype", then there wouldn't be a problem. people tend to take everything out of context and turn it into something "offending" or "pc". that's the problem with people today. they're soooo uptight and so careful about what they say and do because they don't want to offend anyone. that is crap. if everyone just relaxed and took the general meaning of things instead of twisting them into something else, we'd all be a lot happier. ~*melissa*~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:19:23 -0700 (PDT) From: kamikaze kismet Subject: Re: gay "cute" boys & john waters [nrc] please don't jump all over each other like this. let's take a deep breath. melissa. i'm sure you didn't mean to offend her. but you don't have to get angry. ok? today has really sucked and i don't want all you happy little goths to get your fishnets in a bunch. at least wait til tomorrow to rip each other's eyes out. ~sarah!! - --- Rabdchild0@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 5/11/99 10:28:24 PM Central > Daylight Time, > cory@shooter.bluemarble.net writes: > > << and i > know that when gays and lesbians get treated as > novelties and "cute" > strange things it's not only annoying, it's highly > degrading as well. >> > > > for one thing, i never meant this to be a degrading > statement. it's a > "personal" observation. i have many gay and lesbian > friends and for myself, > i've noticed that for the most part, my gay friends > are all very > attractive.... i'm sorry you came off so annoyed. > maybe if you took the > comment for what it actually is, which is an > observation, and not a degrading > "stereotype", then there wouldn't be a problem. > people tend to take > everything out of context and turn it into something > "offending" or "pc". > that's the problem with people today. they're soooo > uptight and so careful > about what they say and do because they don't want > to offend anyone. that is > crap. if everyone just relaxed and took the general > meaning of things > instead of twisting them into something else, we'd > all be a lot happier. > > ~*melissa*~ > === *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** http://dinette.org/sarah *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** journal.poetry.zine.weird quotes. jokes.languagelessons.rants.sarcasm pessimism.anti-bible.HTMLhelp.more [something for you] ::[witchmag]:: _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:24:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Carmilla Subject: Re: hey people... - --- Rabdchild0@aol.com wrote: > why are all gay boys so cute? damn... i love > rupert everett!!! why oh why > must he be soooo beautiful? > > ~*melissa*~ > Yeesh...this is waht I would really like to know!! :) === I gave you my music,made your song take wing..and now ,how you've repaid me...denied me and betrayed me...He was bound to love you when he heard you sing....You will curse the day you did not do all that the Phantom asked of you! ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~**~*~*~ IM:Wyldrose3;ICQ#: 37458937 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 17:11:14 -0700 From: "xoxo jane" Subject: Re: hey people... - --- my heart belongs to conan obrien Yeah! Don't forget Pimpot 5000! ^@^^@^^@^^@^^@^^@^^@^^@^^@^^@^^@^^@^^@^ "Don't drink the lithia water," -Moonit http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/XOXOJANE A Rasputina fansite. ALL THE KIDS LOVE CELLO ROCK *There has never been a better time for Neo-Chamber Grunge.* ^@^^@^^@^^@^^@^^@^^@^^@^^@^^@^^@^^@^^@^ Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 18:54:33 PDT From: "Rainbow Bright" Subject: Re: hey people... > >--- >my heart belongs to conan obrien > > Conan is gay?!?! i mean, he acts mildly like it, i guess...oops, dont take that in a stereotypical way...i never knew! wow, learn something new every day. but then, i've only been awake enough to see the show 3 times...new years, when rasputina was on, and when norm macdonald was on b/c my boyfriend's sister was in the audience and we thought she would do something insane and get conan to talk to her because she had this christopher robin doll that looked just like conan, and she was gonna wave it around and get him to call her up on camera or something...but he didnt because the stupid fucks didnt have her name on the list but they snuck in anyway and norm waved to them where they were sitting in the back. i'm rambling. i'm tired. thanks for listening to my little story. blah. ~~Lori ~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!!~!~!~!~!~! "Television is a medium because it is neither rare nor well done." ~~Ernie Kovacs IM: Rasputeena _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 19:21:28 -0700 From: "xoxo jane" Subject: Re: hey people... - --- He's gay? I thought he had a wife. ^@^^@^^@^^@^^@^^@^^@^^@^^@^^@^^@^^@^^@^ "Don't drink the lithia water," -Moonit http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/XOXOJANE A Rasputina fansite. ALL THE KIDS LOVE CELLO ROCK *There has never been a better time for Neo-Chamber Grunge.* ^@^^@^^@^^@^^@^^@^^@^^@^^@^^@^^@^^@^^@^ On Wed, 12 May 1999 18:54:33 Rainbow Bright wrote: > >> >>--- >>my heart belongs to conan obrien >> >> > >Conan is gay?!?! i mean, he acts mildly like it, i guess...oops, dont take >that in a stereotypical way...i never knew! wow, learn something new every >day. but then, i've only been awake enough to see the show 3 times...new >years, when rasputina was on, and when norm macdonald was on b/c my >boyfriend's sister was in the audience and we thought she would do something >insane and get conan to talk to her because she had this christopher robin >doll that looked just like conan, and she was gonna wave it around and get >him to call her up on camera or something...but he didnt because the stupid >fucks didnt have her name on the list but they snuck in anyway and norm >waved to them where they were sitting in the back. i'm rambling. i'm tired. >thanks for listening to my little story. blah. > >~~Lori > >~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!!~!~!~!~!~! > > >"Television is a medium because it is neither rare nor well done." > ~~Ernie Kovacs > > > >IM: Rasputeena > > >_______________________________________________________________ >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 23:06:23 EDT From: ImAZeroSP@aol.com Subject: lovely little boyz hello my beautiful little Raspy-gothies! well, i dont think Conan OBrien is gay. my friend Slunk said Conan's got a girlie friend...... i also really love Andy Dick too... he's not gay, but many people think he is. when i get older, im gonna move on the north side of chicago (boys town) in WrigglyVille (North Belmont) into the gay neighbour hood. i have lots of gay pride, but im NOT attraceted to girly girls like me. not that it matters.. i already have some bi-sexual and bi-curious guy friends.. and i just found out that this one dude i used to go to school with is gay. I think thats great. sending a heart to all my dearies.... (my heart still is Billy Corgan's) cara - ------------------------ ImA ZeroSP: is conan obrein gay>? Slunk9791: no... hes got a gf ImA ZeroSP: yeah.. thats what i thought.. but everyone on the raspy list is saying he is... Slunk9791: hes not... he acts it cause it's funny Slunk9791: it makes this funny like.... sexual tension between him an andy (who's married) Slunk9791: to a woman too ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 23:21:16 EDT From: ImAZeroSP@aol.com Subject: speaking of lovely little gay boys....(gay bashing MUST stop) IF I HAVE TO TELL ONE MORE IMMATURE LOSER FROM MY SCHOOL TO STOP USING HOMOSEXUAL SLURRS I THINK IM GOING TO GET A BLACK TRENCHCOAT AND A BUNCH OF BOMBS AND KILL EVERYONE!!!! heehee.... well, im at least gonna yell a whole lot. Everyday i have to say "Dont use homosexual slurrs" to like, EVERYONE. calling someone a "fag" or saying that tests are "gay" is BOGUS AND UNCALLED FOR. its the same thing as calling an Irish person a "mick" or an italian a "dego" or a white person a "honkey"... its NOT RIGHT. i corrected someone today for saying "you queer" and they said "how come i cant say it if GAY people say it?? whats the difference??" and i said "does that mean some white person can call an african-american a N***er just because its used in rap lyrics??" THIS ISNT RIGHT.. PEOPLE HEAR NEW "exciting" funny words and they think they can use them.... i love asian people... i have such an attraction to Japanese/Chinese/korean/etc.. guys.. if i hear one person say "James Iha's that chink in the pumpkins, right?" IM GONNA KILL THEM. its not right... racism and gay-bashing and hate crimes is UNNACEPTABLE... its not fair. my friend kieth, who's white (the same one who got my account TOSED on aol) keeps saying the word "Honkey", which is a word he just learned... he keeps saying that to me and he thinks i shouldnt get mad because hes saying it and hes white, and so am i... so i shouldnt be offended by it. DO PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE KEWL WHEN THEY USE RACIAL SLURS AND USE THE WORDS "gay, fag, homo" for INSULTS?? ITS REDICULOUS!! please, if you were offended by any of the words i used, please dont report me, because i am meerly quoting others, more or less. I AM AGAINST racism and gay-bashing. we need to spread the word: "DONT USE HOMOSEXUAL SLURRS" The more people who hear it will make less people who do it. desperate and DISPLEASED, cara 0------------------0to my mistakes, to my mistakes of cowardice she shimmy shakes, the jimmy jakes of consequence born of the airs and dues, my airs of madness do declare that it's ok, its love it's what you wanted to see, it's who you wanted to be for what you needed to need, she'll make it up love, love, it's who you know love, love, it's who you know love, love, it's who you know love, love machine gun blues, her vacant rush is so steel I'm unaware, lost inside your visions I got mine too over, I got mine and I got you cause I know you, you're love it's what you wanted to see, it's who you wanted to be for what you needed to need, she'll make it up love, love it's who you know love, love, it's who you know love, love, it's who you know love, love when i lost my mind i knew i was in for life, now can I look up to you as you look down on me can I feel into you as you felt into me I can't help what you see, I can't help but to be for what I needed to need, she'll make it love, love it's who you know love, love, it's who you know love, love, it's who you know love, love, it's who you know love, love, it's who you know love, love love solves everything love 'smashingpumpkins love' ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 23:36:07 EDT From: OneirosV@aol.com Subject: Re: hey people... [OT] Is anyone else growing... tired.. of this thread? _____ - -FifthDream ...all around me darkness gathers, fading is the sun that shone; we must speak of other matters: you can be me when i'm gone..... Fifth Dream Today http://pages.prodigy.com/FifthDream/ featuring Switchblade Symphony, the Cure, NIN, Prick, Poppy Z. Brite, Vampyres, and Sifl & Olly. You can be all Goth some of the time, or some Goth all of the time, but you can't be all Goth all of the time... i sometimes even tried to catch her, but never even caught her name... ------------------------------ End of goths-digest V3 #101 ***************************