From: owner-goths-digest@smoe.org (goths-digest) To: goths-digest@smoe.org Subject: goths-digest V3 #89 Reply-To: goths@smoe.org Sender: owner-goths-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-goths-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk goths-digest Saturday, May 1 1999 Volume 03 : Number 089 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Ophelia [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: Ophelia [Nahaliel@aol.com] Re: Ophelia [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: birthdays!!! [Chris L Smith ] Re: Ophelia [Nahaliel@aol.com] Re: Ophelia ["Mari Kacey" ] Re: Ophelia [KrodKnid@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:33:03 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Ophelia Lost amid the crushing heaviness of court intrigue and the profundities of her beloved Hamlet,sweet,tender Ophelia lay back in the shallow water..........barely enough to cover her lovely form..........and drank in the liquid death which freed her from her humiliating and terrifying madness,leaving her luminous eyes staring wide at nothing. There is a Hamlet film from the 60s or early 70s which portrays the scene with unbearable pathos.I can no longer listen to "Dig Ophelia" without my imagination being overpowered by this image. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 18:15:52 EDT From: Nahaliel@aol.com Subject: Re: Ophelia KrodKnid wrote: > There is a Hamlet film from the 60s or early 70s which portrays the scene > with unbearable pathos.I can no longer listen to "Dig Ophelia" without my > imagination being overpowered by this image. was it the one with Marianne Faithfull as Ophelia? and Anthony Hopkins, as, uh...someone..Claudius.. i couldn't sit still through that one, as i found their Hamlet quite irritating... Laurence Olivier with a bowl haircut didn't do much for me either. i refuse to see Mel Gibson's version on account of a certain Helena Bonham Carter, who does not fit my mental picture of Ophelia one whit. not to mention old Mel, he's not quite formidable enough in my book. ophelias... Jean Simmons had a lovely fragile hysteria going on. Kate Winslet grew on me. maybe it was the Edwardian costuming. or the vengeful look in her eyes before she escaped. but Kenneth Branagh as Hamlet, all ivory haired and sad eyed, mad mad mad... he defined Hamlet for me at the end of the opening scene, reciting my favorite line, "but break my heart, for i must hold my tongue." and the wondrous Julie Christie, even... sigh. wishing i could play hamlet, jennifer http://members.aol.com/nahaliel/ "..meet me there, in the blue where words are not and feeling remains.. I dream to heal your wounds but I bleed myself." - -Sunny Day Real Estate ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 19:22:18 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: Ophelia In a message dated 4/30/99 6:22:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Nahaliel@aol.com writes: << was it the one with Marianne Faithfull as Ophelia? and Anthony Hopkins, as, uh...someone..Claudius.. i couldn't sit still through that one, as i found their Hamlet quite irritating... Laurence Olivier with a bowl haircut didn't do much for me either. i refuse to see Mel Gibson's version on account of a certain Helena Bonham Carter, who does not fit my mental picture of Ophelia one whit. not to mention old Mel, he's not quite formidable enough in my book. ophelias... Jean Simmons had a lovely fragile hysteria going on. Kate Winslet grew on me. maybe it was the Edwardian costuming. or the vengeful look in her eyes before she escaped. but Kenneth Branagh as Hamlet, all ivory haired and sad eyed, mad mad mad... he defined Hamlet for me at the end of the opening scene, reciting my favorite line, "but break my heart, for i must hold my tongue." and the wondrous Julie Christie, even... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure which version it was,just that Ophelia's suicide was handled with a haunting beauty.You should check out the Mel Gibson Hamlet sometime;it is surprisingly better than it has a right to be.Branaugh's was quite good,you are right:-) BTW,are you the Jennifer from Cincinnati who got a pickup for her cello...........who used to post on the Rasputina message board? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 20:53:19 EDT From: Chris L Smith Subject: Re: birthdays!!! On Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:46:09 EDT Rabdchild0@aol.com writes: >hi all.... > just wanted to let everyone know that the owner of this list, >chris, >well its his birthday today!!! i know this because we share the same >birthday!! woo hoo... i'm 21 today.... it's time to party!!! Happy birthday to you, and thanks! I'm now the big One-Eight. Any news hawks (CNN addicts) out there, chances are I should be visible sometime Sunday or Monday...In Washington DC for the finals of the Fed Challenge Competition (wannabe Alan Greenspans simulate an FOMC meeting to set interest rates). I desperately want to start a new Q & A with the band, but I want to do something for them first. PAGE PEOPLE - are we making the album for the band like we talked about a long time ago? We should do *something* for the band! I'll be back and checking mail on Tuesday (Wednesday if my team wins and I get to cruise around DC spending incredible amounts of money). Thanks, Chris ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 00:27:39 EDT From: Nahaliel@aol.com Subject: Re: Ophelia Krod Knid writes: > I'm not sure which version it was,just that Ophelia's suicide was handled > with a haunting beauty.You should check out the Mel Gibson Hamlet sometime;it > is surprisingly better than it has a right to be.Branaugh's was quite good, > you are right:-) i'll have to rent gibson's sometime, then.. and work on taking the edge off my inexplicable aversion to ms. bonham carter.. i'll have a hamlet-thon.. aww yeah.. that's about as exciting as it gets these days.. :D > BTW,are you the Jennifer from Cincinnati who got a pickup for her cello...... > .....who used to post on the Rasputina message board? naw.. i'm a jennifer from new jersey who used to play the violin, though i don't think i've ever mentioned it here.. :x jennifer http://members.aol.com/nahaliel/ "..meet me there, in the blue where words are not and feeling remains.. I dream to heal your wounds but I bleed myself." - -Sunny Day Real Estate ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 07:29:44 GMT From: "Mari Kacey" Subject: Re: Ophelia I'm guessing that you saw the Olivier version. Although I found him to be very strange looking with blonde hair, and although I did not really care for the lady who played Ophelia, I found her death scene to be quite beautiful. Do you remember if it was black and white? That's the scene that I see when I think of Dig Ophelia. Mari _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 03:55:56 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: Ophelia In a message dated 5/1/99 3:29:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, squid3@hotmail.com writes: << I'm guessing that you saw the Olivier version. Although I found him to be very strange looking with blonde hair, and although I did not really care for the lady who played Ophelia, I found her death scene to be quite beautiful. Do you remember if it was black and white? >> The one I am thinking of was in color..................the most striking thing was the way her eyes looked with the clear water just over them as she stared,unseeing,straight up out of the screen at the audience. ------------------------------ End of goths-digest V3 #89 **************************