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goths-digest          Sunday, April 25 1999          Volume 03 : Number 083



                               Today's Subjects:
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  grrrrowww                                               [ImAZeroSP@aol.com]
  raspy-sorta                                            [LeechCraft@aol.com]
  RE: raspy-sorta                      [MICAH WESTFALL <mrwsmile@foryou.net>]
  USA Today pro-goth article/ colorado murders   [just a pretty little princ]

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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 01:33:16 EDT
From: ImAZeroSP@aol.com
Subject: grrrrowww

In a message dated 4/25/99 12:26:54 AM Central Daylight Time, 
morpheus@tir.com writes:

<< Despite widespread news reports about their obsession with the sadist music
 of Marilyn Manson, he said, only one member really was a fan of the
 shock-rocker.
  >>

i hope the rest of the world knows this too....
lets blame it all on Manson!
hes the devil's spawn!
GAWD!!!!
 
at least this article is showing that he WASNT to blame!!

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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 01:52:00 EDT
From: LeechCraft@aol.com
Subject: raspy-sorta

to the girl who was annoed that her friend got suspened for saying "kill the 
preppies" kill is not a nice word.... to talk of taking someones life even 
jokingly isn't a cool think.....the same thing goes for hate..... i see alot 
of resentment on the list towards jocks  trendies preps "g's" and other such 
people.... while  i am not one of them.... i don't understand why everyone on 
the list has resentment towards them...  they are people too..... just with a 
differnt wardrobe and cds.....they probally have the same fears as you same 
thoughts and same modesties......people have to stope trying to look cool for 
their friends and not be bothered by other people because they shop at 
bananna republic and you shop at hot topic or you shop at thrift store and 
they shop at macys...... people are people.... my best friend plays sports 
and i don't hate her because she is ajock... no she is cool because she is a 
genuine human being... i am sorry you have to act goth and wear black.... but 
next time try to be more nice	 .....

 	but to the thing about being suspende for wearing a trench coat .. 
that isn't right..... my school *tried* to suspend my friend for wearing 
one.... her mother has a good lawyer and has sued the school board 
before..when her mother was informed of the suspension... her mother called 
her lawyer <who used to be a suprume court justice> and her suspension was 
lifted before her mother could pick her up from school... so she was only 
suspended for 3rd period.... but don't let people bullshit you like that.... 
take a stand for yourself...
xoxoxo
- -tom-

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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 02:34:07 -0400
From: MICAH WESTFALL <mrwsmile@foryou.net>
Subject: RE: raspy-sorta

<who used to be a suprume court justice> 

urban legend, right... I had a friend of a friend of a friend who... uh-uh.  Anyway, once on the supreme court, you serve for life.

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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 01:41:15 -0500 (EST)
From: just a pretty little princess <cory@shooter.bluemarble.net>
Subject: USA Today pro-goth article/ colorado murders 

this was on another list i'm on. i thought i'd pass it along 'cause chris
asked about it.

ciao,
corinna

ps> i'm really sad about julia leaving. 

np: the temptations

[just scroll down for the article...]

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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 12:33:58 EDT
From: PiscesZine@aol.com
Reply-To: zinesters@onelist.com
To: zinesters@onelist.com
Subject: [zinesters] USA Today pro-goth article/ colorado murders

From: PiscesZine@aol.com


<< "Goths are dark, not dangerous"
 by Elizabeth Weise, USA Today
 
 Whatever the two young men in Colorado might have imagined themselves to be, 
they weren't Goths. The morose community, much too diffuse to be called a 
movement, much too diffuse to be called a movement, is at its heart quiet, 
introverted, and pacifistic.
 
 "Goths are moony, romantic, fantasizing," says Johnny Angel, 
writer/actor/musician and author of a recent New Times magazine story titled 
"When Is Goth Going To Explode?" "They love to communicate over the Internet, 
but they are playful and fascinated by all things that are innocent and 
childlike."
 
 Goths span several continents and as many generations, including 
14-year-olds who listen to early '80s new-wave music and 35-year-olds who 
study medieval French literature. They are known for dressing in dark, 
flowing clothing, listening to sonorous, depressing music, and affecting 
pale, luminous skin and heavy makeup for men and women.
 
 While they may seem flamboyant, most Goths are fairly shy, preferring to 
hang out with friends or go dancing in Goth clubs. An air of sullen ennui is 
much more Goth than any kind of violence. "Goths are the least violent people 
you could ever meet," Angel says.
 
 Goths take their name from the Gothic novels of the 18th and 19th centuries, 
with horror-tinged mysteries, violence, supernatural effects and a taste for 
the medieval.
 
 The Goths of today began to coalesce around the punk rock movement in the 
late '70s, which shifted into the pensive new wave of the early '80s. Groups 
such as Joy Division and New Order, with songs of sadness and loss, are still 
on the playlists at Goth clubs.
 
 Goths tend to be outcasts, not because they are violent or aggressive, but 
the opposite. "It was book-reading, nerdy kids, artists and writers, kids who 
were more interested in the psychological aspects of being alive," says 
Norman, a willowy young woman who goes by one name and works in a small 
stationery store in San Francisco.
 
 As for the boys' black raincoats, described by some as a Goth uniform, 
Norman breaks into a quiet smile. "Trench coats aren't elegant and refined 
enough to be Goth. Maybe a '40s tuxedo cutaway, but not a trench coat."
 
 (Contributing: Elizabeth Snead) >>


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