From: owner-goths-digest@smoe.org (goths-digest) To: goths-digest@smoe.org Subject: goths-digest V3 #73 Reply-To: goths@smoe.org Sender: owner-goths-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-goths-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk goths-digest Thursday, April 15 1999 Volume 03 : Number 073 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: goths-digest V3 #72 [steve ] Re: scrawl magazine [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: goths-digest V3 #72 [Heather Loresch ] RE: goths-digest V3 #72 [MICAH WESTFALL ] RE: goths-digest V3 #72 [Heather Loresch ] TFTE is not hard to find [Tracy ] TFTE is not hard to find [Tracy ] a bit of Rasputina stuff.. and Shakespeare in Love [Channy Subject: Re: goths-digest V3 #72 I just wanted to put my two cents in. I *adore* ani difranco, kate bush, and jane siberry. i just LOVE all of them. However, i only have about 4 or 5 cds from each artist since they all have like 9 or 10 to their names and i dont have any money. But i still love them, without even owning or hearing all their stuff. If someone told me i wasnt an ani fan because i only own 5 of her cds, i'd probably cry. haha. ;) so, lets not be musical snobs. You can be a fan without hearing everything. Let people enjoy what they've heard.:) steve np - jack off jill, covetous creatures ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 04:56:09 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: scrawl magazine In a message dated 4/14/99 1:57:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Milkdudd21@aol.com writes: << ...i agree......i personally joined the goths to talk about rasuptina and not for the arguing......i agree with you that you could love HWQF without ever hearing TFTE ....hell thats what happened to me ...........but i must say to really appreciate the ladies it does help to have heard TFTE...............i have been playing the cello for 2 years and that also helps to really appreciate them..................alot of the music sounds rather complicated....but then again i have only been playing for years and i suck...but anyway.....i think the main thing is that.........We all love and appreciate RASPUTINA ....so why the hell are we arguing.......?......... thank you for listening to my worthless opinion........ adieu....... >> Don't be so self deprecating,Milk Dud.............maybe your cello forays will lead to something....stringed instruments get a lot easier to play after a few years at it:-)As for the arguing,well..........it's kinda fun sometimes.......heh,heh.I,myself became a Rasputina fan before I heard any of their music BTW...........from an article I read with a picture of them. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 08:36:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Heather Loresch Subject: Re: goths-digest V3 #72 > The actual playing on HWQTF is superior to TFTE.I don't see how you can write > off HWQTF like that.It is a lot more than "fun".It is also a better concieved > and executed work and in some ways,deeper with meaning.TFTE comes off as a > bit sloppy till you get used to it(not to say I don't love it)..........I > never got this impression with HWQTF. I think that the lyrics and general themes on HWQTF are much more mature than those on TFTE. While the fact that they play cello is a very important factor for the band, the whole package needs to be looked at. I find HWQTF more interesting overall. Fan is a relative term. According to dear Mr. Webster, a fan is a devotee. If you consider yourself a fan, you are. There is no test to determine whether or not this is true, and to say otherwise is just elitism. - -Heather - -- Due to circumstances beyond my control, I am master of my fate and captain of my soul. -Ashleigh Brilliant ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:18:47 -0400 From: MICAH WESTFALL Subject: RE: goths-digest V3 #72 Hi- No. By your very definition, you agree with me. If a fan is a "devotee", why would he/she not want to be devoted, or as in this case hear as much as they can of Rasputina. If you like them so much, why would you not want to hear it all? @/*#$%$#*\@/*#$%$#*\@/*#$%$#*\@/*#$%$#*\@/*#$%$#*\@/*#$%$#*\@ On Wednesday, April 14, 1999 9:36 AM, Heather Loresch [SMTP:rsncrntz@camelot.bradley.edu] wrote: | > The actual playing on HWQTF is superior to TFTE.I don't see how you can write | > off HWQTF like that.It is a lot more than "fun".It is also a better concieved | > and executed work and in some ways,deeper with meaning.TFTE comes off as a | > bit sloppy till you get used to it(not to say I don't love it)..........I | > never got this impression with HWQTF. | | I think that the lyrics and general themes on HWQTF are much more mature | than those on TFTE. While the fact that they play cello is a very | important factor for the band, the whole package needs to be looked at. I | find HWQTF more interesting overall. | | Fan is a relative term. According to dear Mr. Webster, a fan is a | devotee. If you consider yourself a fan, you are. There is no test to | determine whether or not this is true, and to say otherwise is just | elitism. | | -Heather | | -- | Due to circumstances beyond my control, I am master of my fate and | captain of my soul. -Ashleigh Brilliant | | ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:24:07 -0500 (CDT) From: Heather Loresch Subject: RE: goths-digest V3 #72 > No. By your very definition, you agree with me. If a fan is a "devotee", > why would he/she not want to be devoted, or as in this case hear as much as > they can of Rasputina. If you like them so much, why would you not want to > hear it all? It's not a matter of wanting. Frequently there are other issues. Availability. TFTE is not necessarily easy to find. I ordered it online when I first started listening to the band. Money. Maybe the person is on a limited budget and can't afford the cd. Regardless, there are many reasons why someone can be a fan yet not have all of the artist's works. I consider myself a fan of Grieg, but I don't own and haven't heard everything he's composed. Does that make me inferior to someone who has the time and money to buy the whole collection? - -Heather - -- "A diplomat is a man who says you have an open mind, instead of telling you that you have a hole in the head." -Unknown ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:53:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Tracy Subject: TFTE is not hard to find Hi. Just wanted to tell everyone that "Thanks for the Ether" is not at all impossible to get. It used to be, but with the popularity of "Transyvania Concubine" and its remixes, the album is much easier to find now. I work at Media Play- the big, plastic, top forty-lovin establishment- and we have quite a few copies. I've seen it in used stores and in record towns and Sam Goodys in both the US (buffalo, rochester, and boston) and Canada. If a store doesn't have it in stock, the cd is still availible for ordering- I did my research there. Anatresia _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:53:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Tracy Subject: TFTE is not hard to find Hi. Just wanted to tell everyone that "Thanks for the Ether" is not at all impossible to get. It used to be, but with the popularity of "Transyvania Concubine" and its remixes, the album is much easier to find now. I work at Media Play- the big, plastic, top forty-lovin establishment- and we have quite a few copies. I've seen it in used stores and in record towns and Sam Goodys in both the US (buffalo, rochester, and boston) and Canada. If a store doesn't have it in stock, the cd is still availible for ordering- I did my research there. Anatresia _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:31:37 -0700 From: Channy Subject: a bit of Rasputina stuff.. and Shakespeare in Love Personally, I think both albums are pretty great, but I think that the music on TFTE is prettier.. (lame description, I know, but it's all I can think of..) What album I listen to depends on what kind of mood I'm in. But, both are really great. Since a couple people have told their little stories, I'm kinda curious to know how everyone found out about Rasputina! So, if you want, tell your story! Like I said before, I saw an ad for HWQTF in the back of a Spin magazine, thought it looked cool, and looked it up and stuff. And now I love them! And now, the non-Rasputina related part. Has anyone seen Shakespeare in Love?? I saw it last night with some friends, and it was a very very good movie. Definately the best I've seen in quite a while. It was great. If you haven't seen it, then I highly reccomend it. I'm going to see Elizabeth this coming weekend, it looks really gool too. And how about Hilary and Jackie, the cello movie? :) (ever since I found out about Rasputina.. there are cellos everywhere! The girl in the new David Spade movie plays the cello too!) Well, that's it! Bye! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 19:39:28 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: a bit of Rasputina stuff.. and Shakespeare in Love In a message dated 4/14/99 7:33:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dycon@ocis.net writes: << And how about Hilary and Jackie, the cello movie? :) (ever since I found out about Rasputina.. there are cellos everywhere! The girl in the new David Spade movie plays the cello too!) >> That flick is about Jaquiline DuPres(sp?),one of the great cellists of the later 20th Century.Check out the Elgar cello concerto by her..........it was her signature piece. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:24:54 EDT From: Milkdudd21@aol.com Subject: Re: a bit of Rasputina stuff.. and Shakespeare in Love i play the cello and so jaqueline du pre is very dear to my heart..........but the movie really made her look like a childish sex fiend.............she was eccentric but if you had read the book{and there is one{written by her sister}} you would see that there were lots of reasons for this, such as her odd mother and that she was nver thought of as "jasckie" but as a celist not a person and other physcological {can't spell} factors that occured while she grew up.......it was a good movie as far as overall acting,cinamatography etc........but they really made it for the sex so they could make money....they really belittled her and her sister......... adieu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 19:57:53 -0700 From: Rilkoff Subject: Re: a bit of Rasputina stuff.. and Shakespeare in Love I also saw an ad in a Spin magazine I purchased... coincidentally, the exact same copy as Channy. Heh. And did the exact same thing- went to the website, listened to the music and went "hey, these girls rock." My best friend bought me TFTE, and I loved it and she later bought me HWQTF for Christmas. I have to admit though, I was a bit disappointed at first with HWQTF, after listening to TFTE so many times over. The cellos sounded so different on so many of the songs, I was rather disillusioned with it for some time, but now I've grown to love it ALMOST as much as TFTE. Maybe it's just my preference for the softer song, but I like TFTE over HWQTF. As Channy stated, I find it "prettier." Still, there are songs on HWQ... that I love, especially The Olde Headboard, Rose K. and heh, Diamond Mind. Oh, yes, Diamond Mind. Yeah, and Shakespeare in Love was an absolutely wonderful movie. I cried and cried... ^_^ And Jospeh Fiennes is so cute!! Ta ta Channy wrote: > Personally, I think both albums are pretty great, but I think that the > music on TFTE is prettier.. (lame description, I know, but it's all I can > think of..) What album I listen to depends on what kind of mood I'm in. > But, both are really great. Since a couple people have told their little > stories, I'm kinda curious to know how everyone found out about Rasputina! > So, if you want, tell your story! Like I said before, I saw an ad for HWQTF > in the back of a Spin magazine, thought it looked cool, and looked it up > and stuff. And now I love them! > And now, the non-Rasputina related part. Has anyone seen Shakespeare in > Love?? I saw it last night with some friends, and it was a very very good > movie. Definately the best I've seen in quite a while. It was great. If you > haven't seen it, then I highly reccomend it. I'm going to see Elizabeth > this coming weekend, it looks really gool too. And how about Hilary and > Jackie, the cello movie? :) (ever since I found out about Rasputina.. > there are cellos everywhere! The girl in the new David Spade movie plays > the cello too!) > Well, that's it! Bye! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 02:19:46 EDT From: DaliAdore@aol.com Subject: Re: a bit of Rasputina stuff.. and Shakespeare in Love well... i must say that apathy would be the solution to all of this bickering.... frankly, if one doesn't care about anything except for the music , then it'd be all right... as far as HWQTF or TFTE goes, i definitely like HWQTF better.. it just seems to be the more mature album, for obvious reasons, and there's a lot more variety to the various songs.... TFTE, although a beautiful album, doesn't really have a wide range of sounds in it.... << Yeah, and Shakespeare in Love was an absolutely wonderful movie. I cried and cried... ^_^ And Jospeh Fiennes is so cute!! >> no...i must say that Gwyneth Paltrow is the star of THAT movie.... ::sighs:: damn she's hot... hahahha drew ------------------------------ End of goths-digest V3 #73 **************************