From: owner-goths-digest@smoe.org (goths-digest) To: goths-digest@smoe.org Subject: goths-digest V3 #72 Reply-To: goths@smoe.org Sender: owner-goths-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-goths-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk goths-digest Wednesday, April 14 1999 Volume 03 : Number 072 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: scrawl magazine [Anitra33@aol.com] Re: scrawl magazine [KrodKnid@aol.com] RE: scrawl magazine [MICAH WESTFALL ] Re: scrawl magazine [Anitra33@aol.com] Re: scrawl magazine [rain ] the rasputina list.. {{the goths}}} [ImAZeroSP@aol.com] the rasputina list.. {{the goths}}} again.... a bit off subject.... [ImAZ] Re: scrawl magazine [KrodKnid@aol.com] RE: scrawl magazine [MICAH WESTFALL ] Re: scrawl magazine [KrodKnid@aol.com] Re: scrawl magazine [Milkdudd21@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 07:01:12 EDT From: Anitra33@aol.com Subject: Re: scrawl magazine In a message dated 99-04-12 22:58:07 EDT, mrwsmile@foryou.net writes: << I did not say to enjoy raspy one must paly cello beautifully, but one must have heard more than the most recent tracks. >> actually, to enjoy rasputina's music, one must: hear a rasputina song and enjoy it. it's that simple. but that's enough arguing over one subject, i guess. Samantha np: grass canons/olivia tremor control ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:58:13 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: scrawl magazine In a message dated 4/12/99 10:58:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mrwsmile@foryou.net writes: << Musically, tfte is superior. hwqtf is more fun but to get the full spectrum of rasputina and to be a follower of something one must know where they came from to understand what brought them to where they are.....I did not say to enjoy raspy one must paly cello beautifully, but one must have heard more than the most recent tracks. >> The actual playing on HWQTF is superior to TFTE.I don't see how you can write off HWQTF like that.It is a lot more than "fun".It is also a better concieved and executed work and in some ways,deeper with meaning.TFTE comes off as a bit sloppy till you get used to it(not to say I don't love it)..........I never got this impression with HWQTF. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:00:10 -0400 From: MICAH WESTFALL Subject: RE: scrawl magazine I'll go slow (so your simple mind can follow) 1. i said that to appreciate hwqtf one has to hear tfte 2. you said to do that would be like saying that to enjoy paintings one must be able to paint like the masters 3. i said that i initially did not say one had to play cello brilliantly to enjoy rasputina but one had to hear their full spectrum of musical ability 4. you babled something that made no sense 5. i said that you do not understand your own metaphors. 6. you prompted me to send you a detailed step by step process of how we arrived to this point @/*#$%$#*\@/*#$%$#*\@/*#$%$#*\@/*#$%$#*\@/*#$%$#*\@/*#$%$#*\@ On Tuesday, April 13, 1999 3:42 PM, Anitra33@aol.com [SMTP:Anitra33@aol.com] wrote: | In a message dated 99-04-13 11:19:00 EDT, you write: | | << You don't even understand your own metaphors. >> | | what are you talking about? i didn't use any metaphors. | | amused, | samantha | ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:31:58 EDT From: Anitra33@aol.com Subject: Re: scrawl magazine In a message dated 99-04-13 16:02:01 EDT, mrwsmile@foryou.net writes: << 1. i said that to appreciate hwqtf one has to hear tfte >> and i disagreed. << 2. you said to do that would be like saying that to enjoy paintings one must be able to paint like the masters >> that's untrue--i never said anything like that. << 3. i said that i initially did not say one had to play cello brilliantly to enjoy rasputina but one had to hear their full spectrum of musical ability >> i agree completely with the first half of what you're saying. my best friend and i love rasputina and we've never picked up cellos in our lives. but as for the second half of what you're saying.. you can enjoy rasputina through listening exclusively to HWQTF, which is what my best friend did until i bought her TFTE for x-mas. because if you listen to the album and you enjoy it, then poof! that is the action of listening to and enjoying rasputina. that was my point. << 4. you babled something that made no sense >> to you, at least. << 5. i said that you do not understand your own metaphors. >> and i said i used no metaphors. oh, wait, i said something about not throwing generalizations around like they were baseballs, or knives. but that isn't a metaphor (i think it's a simile..). and neither was the smashing pumpkins "one functioning kidney" thing. that was just a paraphrase used as an example to support my point. << 6. you prompted me to send you a detailed step by step process of how we arrived to this point >> i didn't prompt you to do anything. this is probably annoying everyone who has subscribed to the Goths list, myself included. no one wants a fight dragging on endlessly in their mailbox especially when they aren't involved. so can we just forget about this and get back to some rasputina discussion? thanks a bunch. Samantha np: hilltop procession (momentum gaining)/otc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 17:16:29 -0400 From: rain Subject: Re: scrawl magazine Anitra33@aol.com wrote: >this is probably annoying everyone who > has subscribed to the Goths list, myself included. no one wants a fight > dragging on endlessly in their mailbox especially when they aren't involved. And for those of you who do wish to continue with the argument, there usually is a "reply to sender" option, which can be used instead of "reply to all". katie not complaining, just pointing something out (ha..I just noticed my sig...) - -- * ICQ#1791425 -- As featured by Papa Pan! * "There's nothing more exhilarating than pointing out the * shortcomings of others, is there?" * -Randal (Jeff Anderson), _Clerks_ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 17:42:26 EDT From: ImAZeroSP@aol.com Subject: the rasputina list.. {{the goths}}} Lovely... well, Im semi new at this list... ive been on it for about a month. i would just like to say that I am interested in finding out more about scrawl magazine.... ive heard a few people talk about it and stuff... seems kinda kewl. umm... i deleted most mail that had a "RE: scrawl magazine" or and thing with the word "fight" in the subject line... so i dont really know much about the fighting going on.. and i dont really care. (im not trying to sound like a biotch or anything). So anyway, has anyone heard any new and exciting Rasputina noise/news? i've been preoccupied keeping up with the Smashing Pumpkins, so anyone with any news i may have missed can email me about it if they like. well, anyway, i hope this fighting stops so i can quit deleting my mail. love and pumpkins, cara (V)istress of (V)elancholy 4:45 central time now playing: The New Zero ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:12:18 EDT From: ImAZeroSP@aol.com Subject: the rasputina list.. {{the goths}}} again.... a bit off subject.... if anyone out there in the forest likes SP, and/or is willing to trade bootlegs or whateverm email me... Cara imazerosp@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:31:06 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: scrawl magazine In a message dated 4/13/99 4:34:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Anitra33@aol.com writes: << no one wants a fight dragging on endlessly in their mailbox especially when they aren't involved. so can we just forget about this and get back to some rasputina discussion? thanks a bunch. >> On the contrary;I have been quite enjoying your little tete a tete:-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 20:08:29 -0400 From: MICAH WESTFALL Subject: RE: scrawl magazine Oh I know. This is sooooo much more exciting than silence! @/*#$%$#*\@/*#$%$#*\@/*#$%$#*\@/*#$%$#*\@/*#$%$#*\@/*#$%$#*\@ On Tuesday, April 13, 1999 6:31 PM, KrodKnid@aol.com [SMTP:KrodKnid@aol.com] wrote: | In a message dated 4/13/99 4:34:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Anitra33@aol.com | writes: | | << no one wants a fight | dragging on endlessly in their mailbox especially when they aren't involved. | | so can we just forget about this and get back to some rasputina discussion? | thanks a bunch. >> | | On the contrary;I have been quite enjoying your little tete a tete:-) | ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 20:23:05 EDT From: KrodKnid@aol.com Subject: Re: scrawl magazine In a message dated 4/13/99 8:11:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mrwsmile@foryou.net writes: << Oh I know. This is sooooo much more exciting than silence! >> It certainly is!:-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 01:54:40 EDT From: Milkdudd21@aol.com Subject: Re: scrawl magazine ...i agree......i personally joined the goths to talk about rasuptina and not for the arguing......i agree with you that you could love HWQF without ever hearing TFTE ....hell thats what happened to me ...........but i must say to really appreciate the ladies it does help to have heard TFTE...............i have been playing the cello for 2 years and that also helps to really appreciate them..................alot of the music sounds rather complicated....but then again i have only been playing for years and i suck...but anyway.....i think the main thing is that.........We all love and appreciate RASPUTINA ....so why the hell are we arguing.......?......... thank you for listening to my worthless opinion........ adieu....... ------------------------------ End of goths-digest V3 #72 **************************