From: owner-good-noise-digest@smoe.org (good-noise-digest) To: good-noise-digest@smoe.org Subject: good-noise-digest V4 #137 Reply-To: good-noise@smoe.org Sender: owner-good-noise-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-good-noise-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk good-noise-digest Wednesday, August 8 2001 Volume 04 : Number 137 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Soundtrack for life ["Mike Smith" ] Re: Soundtrack for life [SMOKEY596@aol.com] Why am I here? [Joe DeRouen ] Re: Why am I here? [SMOKEY596@aol.com] Re: Why am I here? [Joe DeRouen ] Re: Soundtrack for life ["Robbie Piper" ] Spiritual "Stuff" [SMOKEY596@aol.com] Re: Spiritual "Stuff" ["Robbie Piper" ] Re: Soundtrack for life [Togg4@gateway.net] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 20:14:42 From: "Mike Smith" Subject: Re: Soundtrack for life Why am I here? I came upon the Good-Noise list a few years back while I was surfing the net. Wasting time, I thought I would see how many different things there where out there concerning my favorite artist, John Gorka. After clicking on quite a few different sites I came across one that mentioned joining this list. At first I couldnt believe there were others out there who felt strongly enough about his music to actually take the time to make this list. I had only met one other person who knew of John Gorka at the time. Whenever I mentioned his name as my favorite, all I ever got were blank looks and Who?. So I joined the list and looked forward to hearing from others with the same addiction as me. What I expected and what I got from the list has been a mixed bag, mostly for the positive. To hear from people who knew more than I did about John and his music, to hear about the concerts, and, yes, to hear music I probably never would have of Johns through contacts Ive made with people on this list, have been great. The not-so-great have been a small minority and I dont have a problem deleting and forgetting about them. So why am I here, to share in all things Gorka. I used to feel all alone in my admiration of this talented guy and its been nice to hear from others out there who feel the things I feel when I listen to his work or see him in concert. Mike _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 17:22:17 EDT From: SMOKEY596@aol.com Subject: Re: Soundtrack for life I guess I came here for the same reasons that Mike gave. I'd been online for quite a while, and I'd found other online communities surrounding artists that I liked, so I came here looking for the same. For the most part, I have found it. I guess the list is just a little too slow to really foster much in the way of "community". I suppose that could be attributed to a lot of things, mainly perhaps that most of the list members are active on other lists as well, thus cutting down on the time they have to read or post. I think we all probably have one or two lists that feel like "home" to us and tend to hang out there most of the time. For me that would be the Don Conoscenti list and the Ellis Paul Fan Out list. Having met a lot of the list members in person contributes to that, as well as the active participation of the artists. Another problem might be duplicate list members. I mean, Bryn is very active on the Wilcox list, as are some other Good Noisers. There are a lot of folks on Don's list that are also on Ellis' list, but why does Don's list get 400-600 posts a month and Ellis' get 50-60? It's the same people, for some reason all the talk is on Don's list. And finally, probably a lot of folks signed up for this list and don't really read it for whatever reason. And if they read, they don't post. It takes a good thread to get something going, and I thank Bryn for starting this one. Now where are the replies??! :-) SMOKEY www.gathering-of-artists.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 16:40:22 -0500 From: Joe DeRouen Subject: Why am I here? I'm here before I enjoy Gorka's music. I first "discovered" him (and modern folk music in general) on the 1989 Windham Hill records "Legacy" album, and have enjoyed his music ever since. John isn't my absolute favorite musician, but he's definitely in my top ten and sometimes my the top five. I have all of his CDs and have seen him perform live several times in Dallas and Ft. Worth, Texas. I've always enjoyed good music. To that end, I own and operate the official website for Chris de Burgh (http://www.cdeb.com) and have flown to Canada, the UK, and Germany to see him perform. Though a lot of Americans (being an American, I can say this) dismiss Chris' music as just the 1986 hit "The Lady in Red", he's hugely popular in Germany, Canada, and the UK, hence the reason he never performs in the US and I have to fly all over the place to see him. :) Other favorites of mine include Cheryl Wheeler, Bourgeois Tagg, Cliff Eberhardt, Christine Lavin, Suzanne Vega, John Coltrane... can you tell I'm a bit eclectic in my tastes? I don't post often, the exceptions being a couple months back soliciting reviews for Gorka's new CD for the now-defunct eThis Magazine, and, regrettably, the recent "clique" discussion. But I do read everything, and have made a few friends on the list, which is always a valuable commodity. Anyway, that's why I'm here. Joe DeRouen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 17:49:48 EDT From: SMOKEY596@aol.com Subject: Re: Why am I here? >>>Though a lot of Americans (being an American, I can say this) dismiss Chris' music as just the 1986 hit "The Lady in Red",<<< Didn't he do "Don't Pay the Ferryman" or something like that in the early 80's? That's what I thought of when you said his name. :-) SMOKEY www.gathering-of-artists.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 16:52:23 -0500 From: Joe DeRouen Subject: Re: Why am I here? SMOKEY596@aol.com wrote: > >>>Though a lot of Americans (being an American, I can say this) dismiss Chris' music as just the 1986 hit "The Lady in Red",<<< > > Didn't he do "Don't Pay the Ferryman" or something like that in the early 80's? That's what I thought of when you said his name. :-) See?? :) But, yep, he did! Joe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:29:28 -0500 From: "Robbie Piper" Subject: Re: Soundtrack for life Why am I here? Bryn mentioned JG as her favorite singer/songwriter on the David Wilcox list so often that I decided I should give him another chance. (I can't explain why I didn't enjoy his cd "Out of the Valley" the first time I heard it. Now it's my favorite JG cd.) Then I decided to join the JG list, thinking that it would be similar to the DW list. However, it is neither as active nor do most participants write in a way that I feel I am getting to know them. I do have a thread I'd like to throw out. On the DW list (where else?!?) someone asked for recommendations of singer/songwriters who write religious/spiritual songs that don't hit you in the face, drive the message home with sledge hammers (my clumsy words but I hope you get the point). JG was mentioned by one person. I haven't noticed anything religious or spiritual in the songs I have heard. Maybe he's just too subtle for me. Do any of you hear certain songs as having spiritual/religious meaning? Robbie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 20:48:08 EDT From: SMOKEY596@aol.com Subject: Spiritual "Stuff" Robbie, nice thread! :-) I'll think on the Gorka songs, but as far as artists go I would definitely suggest Christopher Williams and Pierce Pettis. Did they get mention on the Wilcox list? If not, feel free to share. :-) SMOKEY Atlantic Canada's Artists and Artisans www.gathering-of-artists.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 19:09:54 -0500 From: "Robbie Piper" Subject: Re: Spiritual "Stuff" Hi Smokey! Actually Christopher Williams and Pierce Pettis were among those mentioned as writing/singing spiritual songs that don't knock you over with the message. Also, just this minute I thought of a spiritual song JG sings: "Let Them In". I am not religious but I do love that song. I can't decide if "Let Them In" or "Flying Red Horse" is my favorite JG song. Robbie - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 7:48 PM Subject: Spiritual "Stuff" > Robbie, nice thread! :-) I'll think on the Gorka songs, but as far as > artists go I would definitely suggest Christopher Williams and Pierce Pettis. > Did they get mention on the Wilcox list? If not, feel free to share. :-) > > SMOKEY > Atlantic Canada's Artists and Artisans > www.gathering-of-artists.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 22:26:25 EDT From: Togg4@gateway.net Subject: Re: Soundtrack for life In a message dated 8/7/01 5:30:28 PM Central Daylight Time, robpiper@earthlink.net writes: > I haven't noticed anything religious or > spiritual in the songs I have heard. Maybe he's just too subtle for me. Do > any of you hear certain songs as having spiritual/religious meaning? > Does "St. Caffeine" count? I have not noticed spiritual/religious tones in John's work. "Let Them In" is an exception, but the words were not really written by John. I adore John and only hope he doesn't get spiritual/religious on us. It would alienate *plenty* of his fans, I'm sure. Here are some lyrics from John's song "Zuly" - "She said we are here to love each other, that is all. And organized religion, that's comparatively small. Not that I don't love all those so-called holy ones. But why are there so few daughters among the leaders of My sons?" It is sort of spiritual, but kind of knocks religion too. I panicked when JG started being a family man - thought he would get too soft. While some of his work has softened a bit, it seems to be in a pleasing way. The humor and intelligence is still there. I for one do not want a religious, spiritual cutesy or maudlin John. ------------------------------ End of good-noise-digest V4 #137 ********************************