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good-noise-digest        Friday, April 27 2001        Volume 04 : Number 087



                               Today's Subjects:
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  Re: Son of the Cutting Room Floor (III)                  [Robpiper@aol.com]
  Re: Son of the Cutting Room Floor (III)                 [SMOKEY596@aol.com]
  Hank Senior                                             [Smithfinn@aol.com]
  Re: Son of the Cutting Room Floor (III)                 [ThePsyche@aol.com]
  Re: Son of the Cutting Room Floor (III)                 [SMOKEY596@aol.com]
  Re: Son of the Cutting Room Floor (III)                 [ThePsyche@aol.com]
  Re: Son of the Cutting Room Floor (III)                  [Robpiper@aol.com]
  Re: Hank Senior                   ["cycle12345" <cycle12345@email.msn.com>]
  Re: "Hank (Williams), Sr. Moment"  ["cycle12345" <cycle12345@email.msn.com]
  Re: "Hank (Williams), Sr. Moment"                        [Robpiper@aol.com]

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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 11:16:27 EDT
From: Robpiper@aol.com
Subject: Re: Son of the Cutting Room Floor (III)

On April 12 Jay Votel wrote:

<< Hank Senior Moment: " I started hearing that phrase (senior moment) over
  and over... and thought it was kind of funny." He put Hank Senior and 
 Senior Moment together and "the song came shortly after that. It's a way
  for younger people to have a senior moment, but it's not an advisable 
 approach." >>

Who is Hank Senior and why is the connection of a senior moment with his name 
funny?

Robbie

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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 12:02:33 EDT
From: SMOKEY596@aol.com
Subject: Re: Son of the Cutting Room Floor (III)

>>>Who is Hank Senior and why is the connection of a senior moment with his name funny?<<<

Robbie, that's Hank Williams Sr.  The little tune when John does that part, and the style of his voice right then, are reminiscent of many of Hank's songs.  As to why connecting him with a "senior moment" is funny, I can't help you with that. :-)

SMOKEY

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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 12:18:21 EDT
From: Smithfinn@aol.com
Subject: Hank Senior

Why do I suddenly feel so old..... :-)

Susan

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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 12:42:12 EDT
From: ThePsyche@aol.com
Subject: Re: Son of the Cutting Room Floor (III)

Another piece of the "Hank" story is:

After John's first child was born and he spoke about it on stage, he would 
tell the audience that his son's name was Bosephus Mahatma Sinatra 
Gorka.....and would always add,  "We call him Hank for short."

So, I guess Papa John is Hank Senior.

That's pretty funny.  Hope this helps Robbie.

Adios, Bryn

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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 14:17:10 EDT
From: SMOKEY596@aol.com
Subject: Re: Son of the Cutting Room Floor (III)

>>>he would tell the audience that his son's name was Bosephus Mahatma Sinatra Gorka.....and would always add,  "We call him Hank for short."<<<

And of course, Bosephus is Hank Williams Jr.'s nickname. :-)  Are you ready for some football??!

SMOKEY

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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 15:49:11 EDT
From: ThePsyche@aol.com
Subject: Re: Son of the Cutting Room Floor (III)

In a message dated 4/26/2001 1:28:59 PM Central Daylight Time, 
SMOKEY596@aol.com writes:


> Are you ready for some football??!
> 

Well Smokey, Pittsburgh's got the Steelers. (the Pirates and the Thieves)

Between the two of us, I think we have made Robbie at least think "we" are 
funny for having all this useless info in our heads.

<smile> Bryn, the music junkie

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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 16:57:48 EDT
From: Robpiper@aol.com
Subject: Re: Son of the Cutting Room Floor (III)

Thanks, Smokey and Bryn, for the info on the various takes on Hank Sr. and 
Hank Jr.  I don't listen to most country music (can't stand it) but now I can 
listen to John's "Hank Senior Moment" with more understanding.

I tease that my husband's brain is full of "miscellaneous garbage".  But I 
would never say that about you two.  ;-)

Robbie

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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 18:34:22 -0400
From: "cycle12345" <cycle12345@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Hank Senior

I just had the same thought, Susan, and that's my favorite song on the CD!!!

Steve


> Why do I suddenly feel so old..... :-)
>
> Susan

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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 19:10:51 -0400
From: "cycle12345" <cycle12345@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: "Hank (Williams), Sr. Moment"

Robbie, I can certainly appreciate your "youthful innocence" in asking this
question about Hank Williams, Sr.  Since my father was such a big country
music fan as I was growing up in the 50's, I thought EVERYONE knew HWS, who
died in 1953 of a "heart ailment" at the ripe old age of 29, probably as a
result of severe alcohol and drug abuse.  HWS was born in Alabama in 1923
and taught himself to play the guitar beginning at the age of 8, formed his
own band at age 13, and was playing on the radio when he was 14.  Now, don't
forget, this was in 1937 when there was no T.V. and none of the mass media
with which we are so familiar today.  HWS achieved his greatest popularity
by moving to Nashville, Tennessee from where he helped to spread country
music from the rural south . . . to the world.

No, I'm not a country music fan, either, but John's song about HWS is
incredibly accurate in its ability to transmit this tragedy of fame and
fortune and the subsequent loss of all that in such a short period of time.
It's like a brief - but impactful and poignant - musical history lesson and
general treatise on fast life all rolled into the shortest song on his
newest CD, the "Company You Keep".  I think JG may have intentionally kept
down the song's playing time to make it even more symbolic of the
short-lived career, and life, of HWS.  In his song, Gorka gives us a little
of that famous HWS half-yodel, and he mentions the destruction of HWS's
liver, etc.  By the time he died, HWS looked much older than his years, and
all those years of abuse created in him conditions very much like those you
might expect to encounter in people many years his senior, thus he
experienced "senior" moments.

As usual, JG did a masterful, multi-level delivery job of it, and that's why
it's still my favorite song on this particular release!

Steve



> On April 12 Jay Votel wrote:
> << Hank Senior Moment: " I started hearing that phrase (senior moment)
over
>   and over... and thought it was kind of funny." He put Hank Senior and
>  Senior Moment together and "the song came shortly after that. It's a way
>   for younger people to have a senior moment, but it's not an advisable
>  approach." >>

> Who is Hank Senior and why is the connection of a senior moment with his
name
> funny?
> Robbie

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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 21:33:36 EDT
From: Robpiper@aol.com
Subject: Re: "Hank (Williams), Sr. Moment"

Steve,

Thanks for the details on HWS's life.  I'm sure the song will mean much more 
to me now.

Robbie

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