From: owner-good-noise-digest@smoe.org (good-noise-digest) To: good-noise-digest@smoe.org Subject: good-noise-digest V4 #74 Reply-To: good-noise@smoe.org Sender: owner-good-noise-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-good-noise-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk good-noise-digest Tuesday, April 10 2001 Volume 04 : Number 074 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: politics [Martin ] Radio [SMOKEY596@aol.com] Re: Radio ["cycle12345" ] Re: Radio [SMOKEY596@aol.com] The Cutting Room Floor (long) ["jvotel" ] Re: Radio [SMOKEY596@aol.com] Re: Radio ["cycle12345" ] Re: Radio ["cycle12345" ] Re: Radio [Togg4@gateway.net] Re: The Cutting Room Floor (long) [Togg4@gateway.net] Re: Radio [Togg4@gateway.net] Re: Radio [SMOKEY596@aol.com] Re: politics ["Shelley DePaul" ] Re: Radio [Sam and Sara ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 03:02:30 -0800 From: Martin Subject: Re: politics Shelley quotes: I take courage in their flight to wherever they think south is for when we've managed to rob them of their instinct, we'll have no examples left to follow. They will be as lost as we have been since we have managed to rob ourselves of imagiantion. I love the poem Shelley. Especially the last lines. Makes me think of "The geeseful skies". And sort of ties into Sam's post. Where do poets and songwriters get these things? From a fertile imagination, and a world for it to play with. Things to be cultivated and protected. You know what would be fun? To write a poem with John's various metaphors. (Sees his class roll their eyes......again!) Well, anyway, the one grabbing me recently, is ("My heart sank bituminous"). That's what you get when you let the world guide the language of your heart. ~Martin (who's skies will soon be 'geeseful' and who's 'roads of potholes' already.....are) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 16:46:08 EDT From: SMOKEY596@aol.com Subject: Radio Hey! I just heard that walkin' around the house song on the radio! Cool! By the way, is this supposed to be stuff that John does with the kids? Anyone know? Even if it's not, I like to think of it that way, which makes it just about the cutest song I've ever heard. :-) Off on another road trip Friday, Wooster, Ohio to see Ellis. :-) SMOKEY ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:53:54 -0400 From: "cycle12345" Subject: Re: Radio SMOKEY, I understand this is a story about walking a baby who's crying . . . You are one traveling woman, aren't you?! Have fun, kid! Steve > Hey! I just heard that walkin' around the house song on the radio! Cool! By the way, is this supposed to be stuff that John does with the kids? Anyone know? Even if it's not, I like to think of it that way, which makes it just about the cutest song I've ever heard. :-) > Off on another road trip Friday, Wooster, Ohio to see Ellis. :-) > SMOKEY ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 17:03:44 EDT From: SMOKEY596@aol.com Subject: Re: Radio Good grief! I sent this message sometime last week and it just now got to my mailbox! I know some of you read it last week, because you replied to it. Weird. SMOKEY << Hey! I just heard that walkin' around the house song on the radio! Cool! By the way, is this supposed to be stuff that John does with the kids? Anyone know? Even if it's not, I like to think of it that way, which makes it just about the cutest song I've ever heard. :-) Off on another road trip Friday, Wooster, Ohio to see Ellis. :-) SMOKEY ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 17:03:08 -0500 From: "jvotel" Subject: The Cutting Room Floor (long) Hi good-noise listers: I tried to post a copy of the interview with John Gorka which was published Saturday in The Washington Times. I'm not sure that smoe.org will recognize the e-mail address I had to use to retrieve it from the archives here and post it. If not (I only see the digest, so I can't check the current traffic) I'll find another way to get it out for you to see. Unfortunately, it is not available currently on the Web site here at the Times. There's also a story from Saturday posted to the Lucy-List, for those of us who follow both lists, along with a set list and review of her Saturday night show at Wolf Trap. John was so gracious in his interview. He spent an hour with me on the phone the day his record was released (March 13). But I had a length limit on the story and unfortuately I had to leave a lot out. Here are a couple of quotes I wanted to publish on the list to contribute to the discussion of the new record and to settle a long-standing thread. I hope you don't mind this long post. Consider these footnotes to the article, if you will, designed for the serious Gorka fan. Crime & punishment songs: "I've done 'Stranger in My Driver's Seat' recently. But some of the crime and punishment songs, I've retired, because I don't want to dwell on that. The reason I did all those ones - -- I never felt I was very far away from guys like that. One or two bad breaks, and that could be me. I guess the different songs come in and out (of the current repertoire). For a while, I know, I thought if I did those songs, I would be part of more robberies or something. ... Some (songs) just get left out (of the play list rotation)." Oh Abraham: "came about through a period of time, partly from reading biographies of Abraham Lincoln. (he cited the biography by Phillip Kunhardt, et al.) That was part of it. And the thing I read about Jack Kerouac, that he worked on a mortar crew (on the Pentagon). It seems kind of incongruous, but it seems that he was different from his image. I think, for one thing, he hated the hippies that the Beat generation helped to produce. I think he was more of a right winger than his popular image would suggest. I think he was a macho guy." The song also contains a reference to Eisenhower's "interstate roads, which kind of replaced Jack Kerouac's 'On the Road' America, the 'Blue Highway' kind of America." "You can't just look at the image of people and think that's all there is to it. If you go beneath the popular images of great or notable people you'll find more complexity there than is easily digested or easily explained away." The song deals with presidential politics as well as the controversy over political contributions and the current push for campaign finance reform, although Mr. Gorka says it was written "at various stages throughout the campaign" and was completed by June 26 or 27, 2000, months before the November general election and the ensuing controversy over Florida's ballot count. - -- Jay Votel (jvotel@megapipe.net) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 17:20:11 EDT From: SMOKEY596@aol.com Subject: Re: Radio LOL, Steve, I *did* have fun....last week! No doubt my message has now arrived saying that the other one was sent last week. :-) We stayed at the Black Squirrel B&B, simply because I could not resist the name. It was wonderful, as was the show and Ellis. We had fun. :-) SMOKEY ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 17:34:27 -0400 From: "cycle12345" Subject: Re: Radio Well, I just got it a few minutes ago, SMOKEY, but it did look sort of tired and bewildered when it finally arrived here . . . Thanks! Steve > Good grief! I sent this message sometime last week and it just now got to my mailbox! I know some of you read it last week, because you replied to it. Weird. > SMOKEY > << Hey! I just heard that walkin' around the house song on the radio! Cool! By the way, is this supposed to be stuff that John does with the kids? Anyone know? Even if it's not, I like to think of it that way, which makes it just about the cutest song I've ever heard. :-) > Off on another road trip Friday, Wooster, Ohio to see Ellis. :-) > SMOKEY ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 17:40:23 -0400 From: "cycle12345" Subject: Re: Radio Excellent, SMOKEY, and it appears that this most recent message of yours is, actually, fairly recent . . . Thanks! Steve > LOL, Steve, I *did* have fun....last week! No doubt my message has now arrived saying that the other one was sent last week. :-) > We stayed at the Black Squirrel B&B, simply because I could not resist the name. It was wonderful, as was the show and Ellis. We had fun. :-) > SMOKEY ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 18:52:27 EDT From: Togg4@gateway.net Subject: Re: Radio In a message dated 4/9/01 3:27:12 PM Central Daylight Time, SMOKEY596@aol.com writes: > Hey! I just heard that walkin' around the house song on the radio! Cool! > By the way, is this supposed to be stuff that John does with the kids? > Anyone know? Even if it's not, I like to think of it that way, which makes > it just about the cutest song I've ever heard. :-) > Yep. In concert, John said that this is what he does with the kids. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 18:58:43 EDT From: Togg4@gateway.net Subject: Re: The Cutting Room Floor (long) Thanks Jay! :-) I, for one, can't wait to get the article. I know I'm not alone. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 18:59:49 EDT From: Togg4@gateway.net Subject: Re: Radio In a message dated 4/9/01 4:42:01 PM Central Daylight Time, cycle12345@email.msn.com writes: > > We stayed at the Black Squirrel B&B, simply because I could not resist the > name. It was wonderful, as was the show and Ellis. We had fun. :-) > > SMOKEY > > Why does it not surprise me that Smokey stayed at a "B&B?" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 19:22:25 EDT From: SMOKEY596@aol.com Subject: Re: Radio >>>Why does it not surprise me that Smokey stayed at a "B&B?"<<< LOL! Now THAT'S funny! I never even noticed that. Thanks for giving me my laugh of the day! :-D SMOKEY "Then I went for a run with the other dog and just walked. And I started thinking about a lot of things. I was able tobI can't remember what it was. Oh, the inaugural speech, started thinking through that." GW Bush bPre-inaugural interview with U.S. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 21:49:17 -0400 From: "Shelley DePaul" Subject: Re: politics > I love the poem Shelley Thanks Martin. Actually, that was one of mine. It touched me deeply that you liked it so well. Consider it yours. BUT I was wondering(SAM, YOU THERE?) if you, Martin, or anyone else heard that same Latin phrase that Sam heard in that chant like section at the end of wisheries, because I find it very interesting. I've played it over a b'zillion times and I can' get clarity on it, but my stereo is crap. There are other latin phrases similar to the ones Sam quoted that would change the meaning . For example the word "amissio" is latin for "loss". Also there is the word "istic" which means "there by you; OVER THERE; here" and then there's the latin word "istinc" which means "from over there, from here; from or on your side". I also find it interesting that a few words up in the latin dictionary from these words is the word "Isthmus"..... Okay, Lain buffs (and people with decent equipment) can someone get some clarity on this phrase? ALSO to Vince. I just rented "The Thin Red Line" - a very powerful movie. Thanks for recommending it. It views like a short story. I probably missed it when it came out because it was fairly contemporary with "Saving Private Ryan" after which I was all "World War II'd out!" I wish I had rented this one then instead. ALSO to Susan or any other PILGRIMS. If you ever decide to make the trip to Godfreys , my house is yours. Shelley - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin" To: Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 7:02 AM Subject: Re: politics > Shelley quotes: > > I take courage in their flight > to wherever they think south is > for when we've managed to rob them > of their instinct, > we'll have no examples left to follow. > They will be as lost as we have been > since we have managed to rob ourselves > of imagiantion. > > I love the poem Shelley. Especially the last lines. Makes me think of "The > geeseful skies". And sort of ties into Sam's post. Where do poets and > songwriters get these things? From a fertile imagination, and a world for it to > play with. Things to be cultivated and protected. > You know what would be fun? To write a poem with John's various metaphors. > (Sees his class roll their eyes......again!) > Well, anyway, the one grabbing me recently, is ("My heart sank bituminous"). > That's what you get when you let the world guide the language of your heart. > ~Martin (who's skies will soon be 'geeseful' and who's 'roads of potholes' > already.....are) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 23:28:43 From: Sam and Sara Subject: Re: Radio Hi Goodfolks! Good-noise is certainly a fascinating group of people! Smokey, I interpret 'Around the House' as a love song. I picture JG and his wife doing a romantic "ten second tidy." (Anybody ever watch 'Big Comfy Couch'?) Pigs and cows may be kids toys but I'm not so sure about that... I understand that JG has explained the song in concert as a 'putting the child to sleep by walking around with the child' or something along those lines, but I like my interpretation better and that's how I'll leave it for now... heh heh. Shelley, you're adorable! I have to admit, though, that I don't really think it's a gregorian chant on 'Wisheries'. It's very reminiscent of the chants, but I think they're just singing, "Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh," or even, "Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh". And I love it. (Sometimes, in certain bathroom stalls, I can make the walls resonate by humming at a certain pitch, and the 'Wisheries' chorus reminds me of that.) I was just funnin' everyone with the gregorian chant thing... And amusing myself, too! (However, I have added at least three gregorian chant webpages to my favorites to peruse later. Honestly though, I searched them out to find a funny line to hit the group with... "It is over." I'm so sure. Heh heh.) Steve-oh, I'm tracking you and enjoying every word. (And he's a black belt, folks! We're all safe in here with Steve around!) BTW, how did you come up with 'Cycle'? Lots of political foofaraw going on in here, I must say! And that's my only contribution towards it, so there! I also get a kick out of the musicians trying to figure out JG's keys and capo placements. Hopefully they'll put the tablature on a webpage somewhere. (We amateurs prefer to let you bad boys do all the work, heh heh.) Hi to Susan and Bryn! And everyone else! Someday we'll have a first reunion. (In Alaska!) Yours truly, Sam PS: I just love the word 'foofaraw'! - -- ------------------------------ End of good-noise-digest V4 #74 *******************************