From: owner-good-noise-digest@smoe.org (good-noise-digest) To: good-noise-digest@smoe.org Subject: good-noise-digest V4 #70 Reply-To: good-noise@smoe.org Sender: owner-good-noise-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-good-noise-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk good-noise-digest Friday, April 6 2001 Volume 04 : Number 070 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: "Ignoranimous"-OT(OT, too . . . ) (OT, three . . . ) ["cycle12345" ] Re: "Ignoranimous"-OT(OT, too . . . ) (OT, three . . . ) [Robpiper@aol.co] Radio! [SMOKEY596@aol.com] RE: World War Two ["Vince Schueler" ] Re: World War Two [Smithfinn@aol.com] Re: "Ignoranimous"-OT(OT, too . . . ) (OT, three . . . ) (OT, four . . . ) ["cycle12345" ] Re: "Ignoranimous"-OT(OT, too . . . ) (OT, three . . . ) (OT, four . . . ) [Robpiper@aol.] Re: Radio! [Mary Sansone ] Re: "Ignoranimous"-OT(OT, too . . . ) (OT, three . . . ) (OT, four . . . ) [SMOKEY596@aol.] Re: "Ignoranimous"-OT(OT, too . . . ) (OT, three . . . ) (OT, four . . . ) ["cycle12345" ] Re: Radio! [Togg4@gateway.net] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 06:58:15 -0400 From: "cycle12345" Subject: Re: "Ignoranimous"-OT(OT, too . . . ) (OT, three . . . ) Well, knowing that, now I REALLY admire Kim more than ever . . . and you, too, SMOKEY, for having such an impressive friend. Plus, we seem to be on the same page politically as one of our favorite folk singer/songwriters, Mr. John Gorka . . . Thanks, kid! Steve - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 11:07 PM Subject: Re: "Ignoranimous"-OT(OT, too . . . ) > >>>Kim, wherever you are now, I admire your grace, style and composure under > fire, and especially your knowlege about the amount of time that it takes > for a bee sting to have its potentially deadly effect on humans.<<< > > My gosh. I didn't even realize that I put this up and then the other. Kim > just happens to be the friend I wrote about who is in Bosnia now. See? She > really *is* brave. :-) And she does know about bee stings and other > important things like that. She's in the M.A.S.H. unit. :-) > > Did anyone watch "That's My Bush" on Comedy Central tonight?? LOL! I think > I have a new quote for my signature...."George! There's a fetus riding our > dog!" > > SMOKEY > "I mean, there needs to be a wholesale effort against racial > profiling, which is illiterate children." GW Bush > bSecond presidential debate, Oct. 11, 2000 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 04:07:03 -0800 From: Martin Subject: Re: new tunes? Shelley... Thanks for the quick response. That works. I even figured out the little minor 6th signature run for the song. But would love your notation. Not sure his exact chord for the 'C' position yet. You know, it is funny, but I've played those chords (that chord progression) so many times in so many picking patterns, and yet, somehow John makes it sound unique. I guess that's what a great singer/songwriter does. As to the songs qualities of sadness, I agree, and find your simile apt. Yet I also find it hopeful. There is something hopeful when one looks at their life and the world with such honesty. Finally, I've always said if someone comes up here for a JG concert (a noiser, that is), they'd have a place to stay and the best seats in the house. I know Mike and Katie and can get front rows, I think. And there's a show the night before in Homer. A beautiful drive. Want to make it two in a row? So I refer you to the chorus of *Saints* and await your reply and the notation. ~smiles~ Martin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:36:35 EDT From: Robpiper@aol.com Subject: Re: "Ignoranimous"-OT(OT, too . . . ) (OT, three . . . ) Steve said: > Plus, we seem to be on the same page politically as one of our favorite folk > Steve, I had wondered if anyone else had noticed this. I hear it in "Brown Shirts" and "Oh, Abraham". Have you noticed it in any other of John's songs? Robbie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 19:27:45 EDT From: SMOKEY596@aol.com Subject: Radio! Hey!B I just heard that walkin' around the house song on the radio!B Cool!B By the way, is this supposed to be stuff that John does with the kids?B Anyone know?B Even if it's not, I like to think of it that way, which makes it just about the cutest song I've ever heard. :-) Off on another road trip Friday, Wooster, Ohio to see Ellis. :-) SMOKEY "I mean, there needs to be a wholesale effort against racial profiling, which is illiterate children." GW Bush bSecond presidential debate, Oct. 11, 2000 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:34:00 -0700 From: "Vince Schueler" Subject: RE: World War Two My father was a WW 2 vet who served in the Pacific Campaign including some of the action around Guadacanal -- he actually was not on the island itself but was stationed at one of the nearby small islands as to spot incoming warplanes and man an antiaircraft battery. Later he went on to serve on Iwo Jima as a forward artillery observer)(where he was wounded twice) and discharged. He doesn't talk much about it - the hard and difficult parts - though I remember him telling a few "camp" stories about some of the practical jokes etc they pulled to pass the time. Anyway, the battle for Guadacanal occurred very early in the Pacific campaign when things were looking fairly bleak and Japaneese army had for the most part been unstoppable. Guadacanal, in the Solomons -- not that far north of Australia was the first major island that we took back from the Japaneese -- The fighting on the island was very intense and for several weeks the issue was in doubt (the marines were dropped off and for a variety of reasons had to fend for themselves. To get some sense of what it was like see the movie the Thin Red Line which came out in the last few years. Semper fi still speaks to me directly because it captures how my father is around this issue and for me some the conflicts it raises between being proud and respectful of what he did and the sacrifices he made and also feeling sad that the sacrifices had to made and the knowledge that as Quaker these are not actions I could take - -----Original Message----- From: owner-good-noise@smoe.org [mailto:owner-good-noise@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Smithfinn@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 12:54 PM To: good-noise@smoe.org Subject: Re: World War Two Thanks Bryn, that brought tears to my eyes. My father, too, was in World War II, a paratrooper with the famous 101st Airborne Division that was involved in the Normandy invasion so vividly portrayed in Saving Private Ryan. Every time I hear "Let Them In", I think of all the graves at the military cemetaries. We just visited my father's grave at one last week in San Diego (he died of lung cancer not from the war). My children asked who was buried in all those acres of white headstones overlooking a beautiful seaside cliff. John said something about Guadalcanal. Either his father was there or this song was about there....I can't recall. For a history major, I sure am clueless about when Guadalcanal was important. I did not see any bees in San Diego, nor did I see any taconite. Susan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 21:01:29 EDT From: Smithfinn@aol.com Subject: Re: World War Two Dear Vince, Thanks for the post. My father would never, ever discuss the war really either except in the most abstract of terms. My uncle can retell the stories to me of what my father reported to him and I cannot imagine how hard it was for those young boys or any serviceman in any war to experience what they did. John's "Semper Fi" is such a personal, emotional song and really hits home. Susan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 21:31:06 -0400 From: "cycle12345" Subject: Re: "Ignoranimous"-OT(OT, too . . . ) (OT, three . . . ) (OT, four . . . ) Hi, Robbie; thanks for your question! Yes, I noticed those lyrics, too, but more importantly (those who have read this previously may hit their delete buttons now . . . ) at a concert last fall, John showed us his Democratic donkey t-shirt and told us that Al Gore would have a better chance in the Presidential election if he would add one syllable to his name: "-ka"! Proof enough?! Steve > Steve said: > > Plus, we seem to be on the same page politically as one of our favorite folk > Steve, I had wondered if anyone else had noticed this. I hear it in "Brown > Shirts" and "Oh, Abraham". Have you noticed it in any other of John's songs? > Robbie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 22:07:32 -0400 From: "Shelley DePaul" Subject: Re: new tunes? Hi again, Martin (and Steve and Paula and Susan (great review!) and Sam and everyone else!) I really enjoyed your post, Vince. >Not sure his exact chord for the 'C' position yet. I think he's just using plain old C in the verse, but if you mean that quick little C-like transition at the end. I think he's 'pulling off' just the c note (do you use tab or notes?) (first fret-B string) and keeping the open A bass, then changes right back to D/G. (I hope this guitar stuff isn't boring the rest of you, but I know there are other guitar players out there and I seem to remember Paula saying she is starting guitar lessons! So here are some Gorka tidbits...but if we're in the way, let us know and we'll retreat to private lessons.) I shouldn't have used the words "exact notation" but I think it's pretty close. >yet, somehow John makes it sound unique. I guess that's what a great singer/songwriter does. I agree. John makes very intricate guitar work look simple. It's not. I'll work on that "Saint" song tonight as I read you guys' incoming posts. I'll get back to you Martin! >Want to make it two in a row? YES! I've been considering it all day at work and I've decided to go for it. Thanks for the gracious invitation! I'm sooo psyched. I'll be looking forward to it all summer. Let me know when you're ready to get the tickets and I'll send you the 'dough'. Shelley - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin" To: Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 8:07 AM Subject: Re: new tunes? > Shelley... > Thanks for the quick response. That works. I even figured out the little minor > 6th signature run for the song. But would love your notation. Not sure his > exact chord for the 'C' position yet. > You know, it is funny, but I've played those chords (that chord progression) so > many times in so many picking patterns, and yet, somehow John makes it sound > unique. I guess that's what a great singer/songwriter does. > As to the songs qualities of sadness, I agree, and find your simile apt. Yet I > also find it hopeful. There is something hopeful when one looks at their life > and the world with such honesty. > Finally, I've always said if someone comes up here for a JG concert (a noiser, > that is), they'd have a place to stay and the best seats in the house. I know > Mike and Katie and can get front rows, I think. And there's a show the night > before in Homer. A beautiful drive. Want to make it two in a row? > So I refer you to the chorus of *Saints* and await your reply and the notation. > ~smiles~ Martin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 22:20:47 EDT From: Robpiper@aol.com Subject: Re: "Ignoranimous"-OT(OT, too . . . ) (OT, three . . . ) (OT, four . . . ) Steve said: > at a concert last fall, John showed us his Democratic > donkey t-shirt and told us that Al Gore would have a better chance in the > Presidential election if he would add one syllable to his name: "-ka"! > > Proof enough indeed! John has a lot of courage to let his fans know where he stands. Surely some of his fans (now *former* fans?) are Republicans. Robbie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 22:18:21 -0500 From: Mary Sansone Subject: Re: Radio! My grandbabies are about the same ages as John's children.....it rings very true to me, The pure energy of children brings out the manic child in us. It is great fun (even if tiring) to keep up with their pace Mary At 07:27 PM 04/05/2001 -0400, you wrote: >Hey!B I just heard that walkin' around the house song on the >radio!B Cool!B >By the way, is this supposed to be stuff that John does with the kids?B > >SMOKEY - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.121 / Virus Database: 58 - Release Date: 01/31/2000 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 22:54:15 EDT From: SMOKEY596@aol.com Subject: Re: "Ignoranimous"-OT(OT, too . . . ) (OT, three . . . ) (OT, four . . . ) Aren't folk fans and singers required to be Democrats?? ;-) SMOKEY "I mean, there needs to be a wholesale effort against racial profiling, which is illiterate children." GW Bush bSecond presidential debate, Oct. 11, 2000 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 23:10:01 -0400 From: "cycle12345" Subject: Re: "Ignoranimous"-OT(OT, too . . . ) (OT, three . . . ) (OT, four . . . ) Not to worry, Robbie; politics is one thing, but music is serious business. Those of us who are politicians, or who are politically aware/involved should never let that stand in the way of the enjoyment of great music such as that produced by the likes of John Gorka, et al . . . Right? Steve > Steve said: > > > at a concert last fall, John showed us his Democratic > > donkey t-shirt and told us that Al Gore would have a better chance in the > > Presidential election if he would add one syllable to his name: "-ka"! > > Proof enough indeed! John has a lot of courage to let his fans know where he > stands. Surely some of his fans (now *former* fans?) are Republicans > Robbie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 23:22:56 -0400 From: "cycle12345" Subject: Re: "Ignoranimous"-OT(OT, too . . . ) (OT, three . . . ) (OT, four . . . ) Yes. Steve > Aren't folk fans and singers required to be Democrats?? ;-) > > SMOKEY > "I mean, there needs to be a wholesale effort against racial > profiling, which is illiterate children." GW Bush > bSecond presidential debate, Oct. 11, 2000 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 22:29:11 -0500 From: "samsara" Subject: How can yall SEE in this room??? OT (OD!) This room is so hazy, what with all the B's! I'm gonna catch a buzz just hangin around in here! (Short for 'bongs' back in the 80's... Course, I never did any... No way, that stuff is BAD for ya!) Maybe some stoner is hacking into good-noise... Oops, gotta go, I'm positively havin a hard time breathin in here! ^`~:.,.:'^`~:.,.:'^`~:.,.:'^`~:.,.:'^`~:.,.:'^`~:.,.:'^`~:.,.:'^`~ Sam You speak of beer, you speak my language -- Al Bundy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 23:53:57 -0400 From: "cycle12345" Subject: Re: World War Two (OT) To add to these other accounts . . . On December 26, my father-in-law died of a massive, "silent" heart attack at age 77, but not before he had long adored his bride of 55 years while losing a son to leukemia yet successfully fathering two daughters, mentoring two sons-in-law and fiercely loving four grandchildren. Prior to that, he was an air-traffic controller for 35 years and, prior to that, he was a waist gunner and a radio operator on a B -17 on which he flew 25 missions over Germany from Thorpes-Abbott Field at Diss, near Norfolk in northeastern England. Over the past four years we have housed six foreign visitors including one from Japan and one from Spain. Tonight, our fourth German exchange student, Jessica - who will be 17 on Sunday - sleeps peacefully in the room next to my office from which I am typing this message. I pray that she, or any of the others, will never need to know the ravages of war that our ancestors had to endure to bring us to where we are today, yet I fear that the art of warfare is not yet dead . . . Steve > My father was a WW 2 vet who served in the Pacific Campaign including some > of the action around Guadacanal -- he actually was not on the island itself > but was stationed at one of the nearby small islands as to spot incoming > warplanes and man an antiaircraft battery. Later he went on to serve on Iwo > Jima as a forward artillery observer)(where he was wounded twice) and > discharged. He doesn't talk much about it - the hard and difficult parts - > though I remember him telling a few "camp" stories about some of the > practical jokes etc they pulled to pass the time. > > Anyway, the battle for Guadacanal occurred very early in the Pacific > campaign when things were looking fairly bleak and Japaneese army had for > the most part been unstoppable. Guadacanal, in the Solomons -- not that far > north of Australia was the first major island that we took back from the > Japaneese -- The fighting on the island was very intense and for several > weeks the issue was in doubt (the marines were dropped off and for a > variety of reasons had to fend for themselves. To get some sense of what it > was like see the movie the Thin Red Line which came out in the last few > years. > > Semper fi still speaks to me directly because it captures how my father is > around this issue and for me some the conflicts it raises between being > proud and respectful of what he did and the sacrifices he made and also > feeling sad that the sacrifices had to made and the knowledge that as Quaker > these are not actions I could take > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-good-noise@smoe.org [mailto:owner-good-noise@smoe.org]On > Behalf Of Smithfinn@aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 12:54 PM > To: good-noise@smoe.org > Subject: Re: World War Two > > > Thanks Bryn, that brought tears to my eyes. My father, too, was in World War > II, a paratrooper with the famous 101st Airborne Division that was involved > in the Normandy invasion so vividly portrayed in Saving Private Ryan. Every > time I hear "Let Them In", I think of all the graves at the military > cemetaries. We just visited my father's grave at one last week in San Diego > (he died of lung cancer not from the war). My children asked who was buried > in all those acres of white headstones overlooking a beautiful seaside > cliff. > John said something about Guadalcanal. Either his father was there or this > song was about there....I can't recall. For a history major, I sure am > clueless about when Guadalcanal was important. > > I did not see any bees in San Diego, nor did I see any taconite. > > Susan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 02:21:46 EDT From: Togg4@gateway.net Subject: Re: Radio! Yes, John said that "Walking Around the House" is about what he does with the baby when it fuses. It reminded me of a friend of mine who has a baby. He told me he "walks" him and the big problem is that the baby only likes to be held on one side of my friend's body. So, he is all spasmed out on one side from this activity. Gina ------------------------------ End of good-noise-digest V4 #70 *******************************