From: owner-good-noise-digest@smoe.org (good-noise-digest) To: good-noise-digest@smoe.org Subject: good-noise-digest V4 #69 Reply-To: good-noise@smoe.org Sender: owner-good-noise-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-good-noise-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk good-noise-digest Thursday, April 5 2001 Volume 04 : Number 069 Today's Subjects: ----------------- is it just me, or... [ImSerius2@aol.com] Comedy Team ["cycle12345" ] Re: "Ignoranimous"-OT [SMOKEY596@aol.com] More questions [Togg4@gateway.net] Gorka at Java Joe's review [Smithfinn@aol.com] Re: Gorka at Java Joe's review [Togg4@gateway.net] Re: Gorka at Java Joe's review [ThePsyche@aol.com] Bees [Smithfinn@aol.com] World War Two [ThePsyche@aol.com] OT Scrapple [SMOKEY596@aol.com] Re: World War Two [Smithfinn@aol.com] Re: World War Two [SMOKEY596@aol.com] WWII [Togg4@gateway.net] new tunes? [Martin ] Re: More questions ["cycle12345" ] Re: "Ignoranimous"-OT(OT, too . . . ) ["cycle12345" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 06:31:12 EDT From: ImSerius2@aol.com Subject: is it just me, or... ...did the topic ' 1" crack ' remind anyone else of, say, a refrigerator repairman bending over in the kitchen and showing just a little too much of his assets? ST ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 07:12:45 -0400 From: "cycle12345" Subject: Comedy Team I don't know about the rest of you, but I think that the comedy team of "Gina and Suzie T." has a great future if they can just keep themselves out of the nuthouse long enough to prove their sanity! I mean, this stuff is comparable to the Jonathan Winters/Robin Williams sort of humor, and it's absolutely free (so far)! "Refrigerator repairmen", "one-inch cracks", "assets", "bumblebees", "'Waiting for the B Train'", "honey", "drone", "hives"? (Oh . . . uh . . . John Gorka would really appreciate this, don't you think?) Sam-U-Am, here's your opportunity, man; don't Bblow it! What's next? I'm almost afraid to ask! Almost . . . SteveB ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 12:24:56 EDT From: SMOKEY596@aol.com Subject: Re: "Ignoranimous"-OT Hey Steve! I think it's okay as long as we put the obligatory OT in the subject heading. :-) So here's MY (one of many!) bee story. Okay...well...one time *I* was in a car with my friend Kim. The windows were down and I *thought* something zipped by me....and the next thing I know....OWWWWWWWWW!!!!!! Pain! In my back! And I reached around and FELT something back there and squealed and threw it toward Kim! And I'm trying to get the car door open (she had stopped in the middle of the road!) but the door is locked so I get it unlocked and try to get out but I have my seatbelt on so I get my seatbelt undone and now I'm out dancing in the road yelling "It bit me! It bit me! What was it?! It bit me!" ! And Kim is sitting in the car with a wasp on her lap! When she sees it, she just steps out of the car, brushes it off, and gets back in. And I'm still dancing around, deathly afraid. She asked me if I was allergic, and I said I didn't know, and she looks at her watch and says, "Well, we'll know in about 3 minutes." So that starts me yelling again, "What will happen?! What will happen?!" Well, nothing happened, except I had a nasty welt on my back and I was teased mercilessly at work after that. I came to work one day to find a giant cartoon bee taped to my chair so that I would lean back on it! SMOKEY "Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?"G.W. Bush Florence, S.C., Jan. 11, 2000 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 14:33:42 EDT From: Togg4@gateway.net Subject: More questions Smokey, lots of us are afraid of bees and other winged stinging things. I don't blame you after what happened to you. Okay, I do feel like an ingnoranimous... What does OT stand for? Does anybody have an answer to the Christine Lavin "Bumblebees" question? It was a real question which seemed to be well timed. What exactly is "scrapple?" John has mentioned it in two songs now. I know it is something to eat, but what? ********** Suzie Tee, shame on you for looking at those ass-ets! If you want to be a comedy team, I would suggest that we go by the "Suzie Tee and Gina G" tag. It has a nice ring to it and it even rhymes with "B!" Gina Gina ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 14:52:56 EDT From: Smithfinn@aol.com Subject: Gorka at Java Joe's review This past Sunday I had another unbelievably wonderful Gorka experience. My husband and I were present at a great small venue in Ocean Beach, California called Java Joe's. As we arrived, we could hear "Night Is a Woman" wafting through the cracks of the front door and were tingly with excitement, even though we had just seen John in Chicago three weeks before.B We were allowed to enter quite a long time before the show was scheduled to start and throughout the evening had a number of nice chats with John about various things from our fan web site to bootlegs. This venue seemed more like a private party with probably no more than 80 people present. John opened with "Shape of the World" off the new CD. He reminded us that it was called "Shape of the World", not "Sheep of the World." He then gave his usual amusing account of being from New Jersey, not boasting about it, of course. Someone asked what part, and he answered, "All of me!" then sang, "I'm From New Jersey", followed by "Stranger With Your Hair" (Bryn, note, this was WITHOUT a request and so early in the show!). Someone requested "Italian Girls" which he did, followed by "Blue Chalk". I then requested "Oh, Abraham" which he performed followed by "Good" and "Semper Fi".B He then told the audience that his son cried a lot and needed to be held, so he wrote the next song for him, never intending to record it, as a means of entertaining him. He did a great version of "Around the House" off the new CD, but called it "Walking Around the House". The audience loved it.B After the break he sang "I Don't Feel Like A Train". Someone requested "Temporary Road" and he sang it flawlesslyb&..absolutely beautiful.B When it was done, he told the audience that he left out a part, started to speak the words, "And his buddies know he's crazy, but they'll meet him by the bridge", then a couple of audience members piped in with the remaining words to the verse, "And he has the light of more than half the moon". It cracked him up that they could recite what he had forgotten. He next sang "Flying Red Horse" and then "A Saint's Complaint" from the new CDb&beautiful. He then sat at the small keyboard provided for him and sang "Let Them In", explaining that he had recently seen the friend who had given him the words that inspired the song and asked if she knew any more about it. It turns out it was from a letter by Alma or Elma Dean that appeared in "American Mercury" magazine in November 1942. Next came "People My Age", also on the new CD and then said he should get all the really embarrassing songs out of the way and performed "Body Parts Medley". He concluded that song by saying sarcastically, "Oh, yes, I'm really proud of that one!" He then sang the song about his mother, "Part of Your Own". Even though I have heard him perform this live before, this particular night it brought tears to my eyes. Almost at the end of the song, he faltered, seemed at first to forget the words, then played guitar for a bit, tried to pick up where he left off, struggled, tried again, and then weakly smiled embarrassingly, and I believe the song had affected him emotionally, as has been reported in other reviews. It was a moving personal moment. Next he performed "Night is A Woman" on the keyboard which was amazingly beautiful then concluded with "Good".B I considered this audience to be very lukewarm at best but they brought him back for an encore of "That's How Legends Are Made". I later told John he was great but the audience was toughb&he said he thought they were just laid back.B I thought they were comatose! My husband, new friend Paul and I approached John to say goodbye and my husband made me tell John a funny story. A couple of years ago in our small Wisconsin town I noticed an acoustic duo named "Gypsy Life" was playing at our agricultural fair, about the only "happening" in Lodi! The name threw me, and I wondered if they had any knowledge of John's music. We were leaving the fair when we heard strains of "Gypsy Life" across the field and rushed to hear them. The following summer I saw that they were again playing at the fair so we made a point to attend their whole show. By this time, they had changed their name, but referred to themselves as "formerly Gypsy Life". They opened with "Gypsy Life" to my delight, followed by I think "I Don't Feel Like a Train". They went on to do covers of other artists like Simon and Garfunkel, "More John Gorka!" The lead singer looked aghast at me, and said, "My, aren't you hip!" John roared with laughter at that comment, and the idea of someone doing covers of his songs as the main part of their act. They later played "All That Hammering" for me and I told them the only reason I came was to hear the Gorka tunes! We all found this story hysterically funny. It was a nice end to a lovely evening. John as always, was charming and gracious and seemed to enjoy the evening. Susan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 15:09:54 EDT From: Togg4@gateway.net Subject: Re: Gorka at Java Joe's review Susan has Bs too! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 15:15:38 EDT From: ThePsyche@aol.com Subject: Re: Gorka at Java Joe's review Smithfinn writes: > He then sat at the small keyboard provided for him and sang > "Let Them In", explaining that he had recently seen the friend who had given > him the words that inspired the song and asked if she knew any more about > it. > It turns out it was from a letter by Alma or Elma Dean that appeared in > I don't know about the rest of you, but when I read this, I immediately went to the web do so a bit of research on this woman. I found a bibligraphy for her as well as several WW2 websites that have the original poem there to honor lost comrades. The poem is titled Letter To Saint Peter. I would like to find some details of this woman's life and will do some searching......and let you all know what I find! Thanks Susan for a great review. It sounds like you and Tim has a wonderful night of music. Adios, Bryn ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 15:19:41 EDT From: Smithfinn@aol.com Subject: Bees I have Bees? Rats! No, don't have rats too. I wrote my review in MS Word, then edited out the quotes that came out funny when I posted it in AOL to send...weird that it ended up with B's.... Susan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 15:36:40 EDT From: ThePsyche@aol.com Subject: World War Two I have an interest in World War Two because my father was in the army then. I was born in 1955 and remember clearly the talk of both World Wars being part of grown up conversations around the dinner table or fire place. Pictures would invariably come out at this time and with the eyes of a child I saw the face of a distant uncle or cousin who had been killed in the war. My Father was embarrassed by his involvement in the big war. After being drafted and going to boot camp in Nebraska he was stationed, for the duration in Jamaica. Yea, my Dad's old kit bag was full of Caribbean memories and souvenirs, including seeing my first risque photograph of a Jamaican topless dancer....had to sneak to see that one. Still, I cannot imagine what it must have felt like to have your son or husband or loved one going off to die....I mean, imagine that....going away and knowing that you very well may never see that person again. Dr. Phil (you know the Oprah guy) says that when you fight in front of your children, you change who they are forever. Imagine what sending someone off to war does to a psyche? I found this poem while doing some searching about Elma Dean. Liked it and thought I would send it your way. Sorry to be talking about war on a sunny April afternoon. Better than talking about bees I guess. Peace, Bryn Freedom Isn't Free I watched the flag pass by one day. It fluttered in the breeze A young soldier saluted it, and then He stood at ease. I looked at him in uniform So young, so tall, so proud With hair cut square and eyes alert He'd stand out in any crowd. I thought, how many men like him Had fallen through the years? How many died on foreign soil? How many mothers' tears? How many pilots' planes shot down? How many foxholes were soldiers' graves? No, Freedom is not free. I heard the sound of taps one night, When everything was still. I listened to the bugler play And felt a sudden chill. I wondered just how many times That taps had meant "Amen" When a flag had draped a coffin Of a brother or a friend. I thought of all the children, Of the mothers and the wives, Of fathers, sons and husbands With interrupted lives. I thought about a graveyard At the bottom of the sea Of unmarked graves in Arlington. No, Freedom isn't free. The poem above is an "Author Unknown" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 15:48:11 EDT From: SMOKEY596@aol.com Subject: OT Scrapple OT is Off Topic...kind of warns readers that the content might be silly and not about John Gorka. :-) Scrapple is some kind of ground up pork mashed up and served on bread or toast or something. Ick. I don't know the answer to the Bumblebees question. Sorry! SMOKEY ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 15:53:55 EDT From: Smithfinn@aol.com Subject: Re: World War Two Thanks Bryn, that brought tears to my eyes. My father, too, was in World War II, a paratrooper with the famous 101st Airborne Division that was involved in the Normandy invasion so vividly portrayed in Saving Private Ryan. Every time I hear "Let Them In", I think of all the graves at the military cemetaries. We just visited my father's grave at one last week in San Diego (he died of lung cancer not from the war). My children asked who was buried in all those acres of white headstones overlooking a beautiful seaside cliff. John said something about Guadalcanal. Either his father was there or this song was about there....I can't recall. For a history major, I sure am clueless about when Guadalcanal was important. I did not see any bees in San Diego, nor did I see any taconite. Susan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 15:56:13 EDT From: SMOKEY596@aol.com Subject: Re: World War Two Bryn, thanks for the lovely poem. You know, when we aren't officially "at war", it's easy to forget that there are service men and women still out there protecting us and our allies or involved in peacekeeping missions somewhere. For example, the crew that is currently being held in China. A friend of mine is in the Georgia Army National Guard, and she was called up for duty just after Christmas. She had three months of training in things like searching vehicles for weapons and clearing land mines, and now she is on duty in Bosnia. She will be there until October. Her outlook on things is very good. She's looking forward to the adventure and learning something while she is there. I just sent her a large care package yesterday. Very apropros, Ms. Bryn, thanks. You B cool. :-) SMOKEY ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 20:43:39 EDT From: Togg4@gateway.net Subject: WWII "Let Them In" is really a tear jerker, isn't it. The first time I heard it, I couldn't believe how powerful it was. For me, it transcended the war theme and spoke of loved ones dying and how we hope they go on to some other existence where they will be happy. As for W.W.II, please say a thank you to all of your veteran parents from me and what is left of my family. My father grew up in concentration camps and is the only survivor in his family. He spent 5 years of his youth in the camps without his family. My mother's grandparents had to decide which of the 7 children to send from Vienna to London to be saved. They chose the three youngest girls who were sent to be raised in an orphanage in London. The rest of the family was never heard from again. Your parents went to war for a righteous reason, and I suppose I am the evidence of that. And what do I do? I torture you with bad puns! If any of you are interested in finding more songs on the war theme, Eric Bogle is a good place to look. Thanks again to your folks. Gina ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 18:11:18 -0800 From: Martin Subject: new tunes? Hey Everyone ~ Loves the new CD but understands the past discreperential (can say that cuz am anguish teacher) confliction... Was wondering (Greg?) if anyone had figured out the chords/tunings/capo of say.....oh.... Wisheries? And perhaps Saints and any others? Am working on them myself, and will share, but always appreciates collaboration. On another front, JG will be here (anchorage) October 27.....who's comin'? ~winks and waves~ Martin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 22:12:57 -0400 From: "cycle12345" Subject: Re: More questions OT stands for 'off topic", or "o-tay" or "only truth" or "orange Tang" or "overly taut" (or "overly taught") or "one-two" or "outta town" or "only tonight" or "originally taller" or "once ten" or "once twenty" or "once thirty" or "once two-hundred" or "outrageously tepid" or "outlandishly tame" or "obviously trashy" or . . . . . . and scrapple is a dish made by boiling together meat scraps, chopped vegetables and corn meal, then cooling the whole concoction in a mold, then frying it before serving . . . sometimes on toast. Wordmaster (AKA: Chefmaster) > Smokey, lots of us are afraid of bees and other winged stinging things. I > don't blame you after what happened to you. > > Okay, I do feel like an ingnoranimous... > > What does OT stand for? > > Does anybody have an answer to the Christine Lavin "Bumblebees" question? It > was a real question which seemed to be well timed. > > What exactly is "scrapple?" John has mentioned it in two songs now. I know > it is something to eat, but what? > > ********** > Suzie Tee, shame on you for looking at those ass-ets! If you want to be a > comedy team, I would suggest that we go by the "Suzie Tee and Gina G" tag. > It has a nice ring to it and it even rhymes with "B!" > > Gina > > Gina ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 22:33:23 -0400 From: "cycle12345" Subject: Re: "Ignoranimous"-OT(OT, too . . . ) .Well, SMOKER; apiarially speaking, why did you throw the bee at the driver of the car? Wasn't that somewhat dangerous . . . for the bee? Not to mention the fact that the car could have gone out of control while your "friend" Kim was negotiating it . . . and the bee, thus creating even bigger problems! Kim, wherever you are now, I admire your grace, style and composure under fire, and especially your knowlege about the amount of time that it takes for a bee sting to have its potentially deadly effect on humans. But it WAS a funny story, SMOKELESS . . . Thanks! SteveB > Hey Steve! I think it's okay as long as we put the obligatory OT in the > subject heading. :-) So here's MY (one of many!) bee story. > > Okay...well...one time *I* was in a car with my friend Kim. The windows were > down and I *thought* something zipped by me....and the next thing I > know....OWWWWWWWWW!!!!!! Pain! In my back! And I reached around and FELT > something back there and squealed and threw it toward Kim! And I'm trying to > get the car door open (she had stopped in the middle of the road!) but the > door is locked so I get it unlocked and try to get out but I have my seatbelt > on so I get my seatbelt undone and now I'm out dancing in the road yelling > "It bit me! It bit me! What was it?! It bit me!" ! And Kim is sitting in the > car with a wasp on her lap! When she sees it, she just steps out of the car, > brushes it off, and gets back in. And I'm still dancing around, deathly > afraid. She asked me if I was allergic, and I said I didn't know, and she > looks at her watch and says, "Well, we'll know in about 3 minutes." So that > starts me yelling again, "What will happen?! What will happen?!" Well, > nothing happened, except I had a nasty welt on my back and I was teased > mercilessly at work after that. I came to work one day to find a giant > cartoon bee taped to my chair so that I would lean back on it! > > SMOKEY > "Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?"G.W. Bush > Florence, S.C., Jan. 11, 2000 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 23:07:28 EDT From: SMOKEY596@aol.com Subject: Re: "Ignoranimous"-OT(OT, too . . . ) >>>Kim, wherever you are now, I admire your grace, style and composure under fire, and especially your knowlege about the amount of time that it takes for a bee sting to have its potentially deadly effect on humans.<<< My gosh. I didn't even realize that I put this up and then the other. Kim just happens to be the friend I wrote about who is in Bosnia now. See? She really *is* brave. :-) And she does know about bee stings and other important things like that. She's in the M.A.S.H. unit. :-) Did anyone watch "That's My Bush" on Comedy Central tonight?? LOL! I think I have a new quote for my signature...."George! There's a fetus riding our dog!" SMOKEY "I mean, there needs to be a wholesale effort against racial profiling, which is illiterate children." GW Bush bSecond presidential debate, Oct. 11, 2000 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 23:47:02 -0400 From: "Shelley DePaul" Subject: Re: new tunes? Martin Try playing "Wisheries" in G with capo on 4th. If you need the exact notation I can send it to you. I just figured it out for a student yesterday as a matter of fact. Incidentally, I think this is the saddest song I've ever heard. Kind of like clowns are sad. But I was just thinkin'... I'm taking off the month of October and will be visiting a friend in Utah for my birthday the week of the 12th, but have no definite plans after that. I'd love to take a road trip up that a way. Never been there. Can you suggest a place to stay? Shelley - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 10:11 PM Subject: new tunes? > Hey Everyone ~ Loves the new CD but understands the past > discreperential (can say that cuz am anguish teacher) confliction... > Was wondering (Greg?) if anyone had figured out the chords/tunings/capo > of say.....oh.... Wisheries? And perhaps Saints and any others? Am > working on them myself, and will share, but always appreciates > collaboration. > On another front, JG will be here (anchorage) October 27.....who's > comin'? ~winks and waves~ Martin ------------------------------ End of good-noise-digest V4 #69 *******************************