From: owner-good-noise-digest@smoe.org (good-noise-digest) To: good-noise-digest@smoe.org Subject: good-noise-digest V3 #108 Reply-To: good-noise@smoe.org Sender: owner-good-noise-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-good-noise-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk good-noise-digest Tuesday, November 7 2000 Volume 03 : Number 108 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: BOUNCED because of MIME encoding ["Steve McGraw" ] Re: The John Gorka Gore/Bush Poll !! [Smithfinn@aol.com] Re: The John Gorka Gore/Bush Poll !! [SMOKEY596@aol.com] Why Did The Chicken Cross The Road? [ThePsyche@aol.com] The results of the John Gorka Gore/Bush/Nader Poll... ["josanne" Subject: Re: BOUNCED because of MIME encoding Thanks, Wayne; I sent the original message as I always do, but I wasn't sure it made it through, and then I got that "bounced MIME" response, so I wondered what was going on. Thanks again! Steve - -----Original Message----- From: Wayne Renardson To: good-noise@smoe.org Date: Sunday, November 05, 2000 8:35 PM Subject: Re: BOUNCED because of MIME encoding >One fine day Steve McGraw asked: > >SM>Can you tell me what this means? > >MIME (Multi-purpose Internet Mail Extensions) MIME is an Internet >standard for the transmission of data of any type via electronic >mail. It defines the way messages should be formatted and constructed >and has provision for indicating the type and nature of the contents >of a message, and for preserving international character set >information. > >MIME provides direct support for graphic images in GIF and JPEG >format, Video images in MPEG format, and Audio data as well. It also >has a Digest format for sending multiple mail messages at once >(Pegasus Mail displays MIME digests in a manner very similar to a >folder). > >Some mail will automatically handle incoming MIME messages without >any intervention from you Steve. Generally your mail program can be >configured to encode or decode MIME traffic. Your choice. > >Our moderator, Chris Thorpe, apparently configured the server to >reject MIME encoded traffic, which is why the one from Rosemary >Thorpe bounced. That's my guess anyway. Most listservs do not want >binary attachments sent to them. > >Guess that means Chris does not want us sending photos of John to the >list :) > >Wayne Renardson > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 08:14:28 -0500 From: Greg Steele Subject: Re: The John Gorka Gore/Bush Poll !! josanne wrote: > > So my question is: Do you stay at home or are you going to vote next week > (Gore or uh.... Bush) > Despite the fact that this will probably alienate everyone here, the issues has come down to one thing for me. I have not been a supporter of Bush, as I've said before I lost interest in the race when Libby Dole dropped out, but I can't in good conscience vote for someone who supports the killing of innocents. I believe that human life begins at conception, and that a foetus is more than just tissue attached to a woman's womb. Because of that belief, I can't get past the idea that we have been legally killing our future at the rate of 1.5 million a year for the last 27 years. I believe that we, as a country, will have to answer for that. I know many do not see this as I do, so flame away. But I must vote life over my pocketbook, if I am to be able to look myself in the mirror on Wednesday. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 08:55:07 EST From: ThePsyche@aol.com Subject: Re: The John Gorka Gore/Bush Poll !! gsteele@steelerubber.com writes: << I believe that human life begins at conception, and that a foetus is more than just tissue attached to a woman's womb. >> I am the mother of an adopted child. If his birthmother had chosen to have an abortion, her would not be here and that is something I can not imagine. I can even say that my opinions about abortion have changed. With that said, I still support a woman's right to choose and always will. If asked, I will always give my opinion and how I see this issue. But who am I to judge you? Who are you to judge me? Not flaming on ya Greg, passing on my opinion in this open political forum just like you did. What's next? Religion? Adios, Bryn, who will be voting on Tuesday ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 09:42:39 -0500 From: Greg Steele Subject: Re: The John Gorka Gore/Bush Poll !! ThePsyche@aol.com wrote: > > With that said, I still support a woman's right to choose and always will. > If asked, I will always give my opinion and how I see this issue. > > But who am I to judge you? Who are you to judge me? > > Not flaming on ya Greg, passing on my opinion in this open political forum > just like you did. No problem, Bryn. Please understand that I stand in judgement of no one. I simply believe our government has a responsibility to protect innocent human life, which as I said, I believe unborn foetuses (foeti?) to be. BTW, I don't think Bush would be able to appoint any Supreme Court Justice without Congressional approval, so I find it unlikely that he would be able to "pack the court" with pro-life judges. As far as it goes, I believe both Gore and Bush to be closer to the moderate center on many issues than either one professes right now. I would be more than glad to engage in civil discussion regarding my reasoning on the issue with anyone interested, but off-list would probably be better. Greg "An honest politician is one who, when he's bought, stays bought" - Simon Cameron, pre-Civil War Pennsylvania political boss ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 10:10:50 EST From: SMOKEY596@aol.com Subject: Re: The John Gorka Gore/Bush Poll !! >>>I would be more than glad to engage in civil discussion regarding my reasoningon the issue with anyone interested, but off-list would probably be better<<< Just chiming in with my opinion, and it is an opinion only, no flames here either, but I appreciate this type of discussion being done offlist. A few fires started on another list last week, and I would like to avoid that here. Unfortunately, even among friends, there are certain topics sure to divide, and that is not the purpose of this list. SMOKEY ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 10:36:24 EST From: ThePsyche@aol.com Subject: Re: The John Gorka Gore/Bush Poll !! SMOKEY writes: << Unfortunately, even among friends, there are certain topics sure to divide, and that is not the purpose of this list. SMOKEY >> My real question then is, what IS the purpose of this list? As you mentioned, another list you subscribe to had a few fires last week. I too have been on email lists where folks were less than respectful to one another....much the same as real life. So, what is the purpose of connecting here? To talk only about Gorka shows, Gorka songs, Gorka stuff? Or are we also going to look at each other and become better acquainted? Should we stay on the surface...or dig a bit deepr, go underneath and risk what might happen? I don't have the answer, just something I have wondered for a while because of my own online group experiences. Adios, Bryn, who is glad we have Smokey here in case there are any fires to put out. By the way, is it just *Smokey*? or is it *Smokey THE Good Noise Poster*? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 10:00:37 -0600 From: "Dan Lins" Subject: Re: The John Gorka Gore/Bush Poll !! If you had to boil it down, John's music is nothing if not intelligent and honest. That's why I love it. I find myself attracted to those same qualities in the many other facets of life. That's why I'll be voting for George W. Bush tomorrow. Bush is a straightforward man and, yes, he is intelligent--not in an aristocratic "beatiful persons" kind of way, but in a plainspoken, West Texas "I've lived life" kind of way. They say you can tell a lot about a person by the company he keeps. [I think that's certainly true of all the good people in this forum--including John Gorka by default.] *smile* But it's also true in politics--I'll take someone associated with Colin Powell and the Rev. Billy Graham over one associated with Bill Clinton and Larry Flynt anyday! Whatever side your on, if you have an informed vote to cast, please remember to do so Tuesday! - --Dan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 11:29:45 EST From: Smithfinn@aol.com Subject: Re: The John Gorka Gore/Bush Poll !! I agree with Andy all the way. Nader would be a cool vote but too chancey this year! Gore for me! Susan Finn ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 11:41:29 EST From: SMOKEY596@aol.com Subject: Re: The John Gorka Gore/Bush Poll !! >>>By the way, is it just *Smokey*? or is it *Smokey THE Good Noise Poster*?<<< Bryn, my friend, you have inadvertantly given me Winnie THE Pooh's middle name. I shall therefore be required to throw lighted matches at your feet while chanting, "Dance, Bryn THE Psyche, dance!" SMOKEY (no fires here!) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 17:12:35 EST From: ThePsyche@aol.com Subject: Why Did The Chicken Cross The Road? On this Election Eve, a bit of humor: A friend forwarded some mail, probably similar to mail many of you have gotten, joke mail with a political twist to it. (I am twisting it futher, so read on) It has to do with that old joke about the chicken crossing the road. For example: Why did the chicken cross the road? VICE PRESIDENT GORE I fight for the chickens and I am fighting for the chickens right now. I will not give up on the chickens crossing the road! I will fight for the chickens and I will not disappoint them. GOVERNOR GEORGE W. BUSH I don't believe we need to get the chickens across the road. I say give the road to the chickens and let them decide. The government needs to let go of strangling the chickens so they can get across the road. So then this friend who forwarded this funny ponders: "But what would Gorka say..actually- this might be a good one for the list..and everyone come up with a Gorka-ism?" I love the idea! So, to all of you here...according to John Gorka... Why did the chicken cross the road? Bryn's answers: 1. Because he was on the Campaign Trail. 2. Because he was scraping dixie until the weather warmed this way. 3. Because the Colonel's army took the soul that went by the name of King Creole and he's gone gone gone. And one more, that sort of fits the Gorka theme: He crossed the road because he knew if he crossed that road and alot more roads just like it and that if he kept moving, kept hustling, kept working he might create a buzz and get picked up by FlemTam, "THE" booking agency for hardworking singer/songwriter type chickens. Enough already, Bryn ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 23:48:18 +0100 From: "josanne" Subject: The results of the John Gorka Gore/Bush/Nader Poll... Al Gore will be the next president !!! The John Gorka fans will vote for Gore (57% that is four of the seven voters), Nader will get 14% and Bush 29% !!! 75% of the Gore voters said: I've gotta go for Gore though I am tempted to vote for Nader. Thanks for voting the past three days and good luck tomorrow.... Regards Jos from Holland (I can not vote ofcourse but I go for Nader. He is more like most progressive Europeans. ) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 18:22:46 EST From: SAbrams613@aol.com Subject: Re: The results of the John Gorka Gore/Bush/Nader Poll... Well, I was going to just 'lurk' on this one, but your poll numbers will be skewed if all of us don't jump in, so here goes: I'm voting for Al Gore. When I cut through all the hoopla and sound bytes on ALL sides (Nader and the other independents, too), he seems to be far more concerned with taking care of the weakest and most disenfranchised members of society. Bush's ideas are sound for people who can pull themselves up by their bootstraps, but there are many people who are not able to do this. They need more than the Republican platform provides. On another level, I am very nervous about how Bush has handled the pressure of this campaign. It's a big red flag (to me) to see his perseveration on emotionally based topics increased as the campaign has become more intense. Even with the best advisers in the world, the final decision is that of the president, and I can't see him thinking clearly under pressure. But he sure would give editorial cartonists and the cast of SNL great raw material for the next four years! Barbara ------------------------------ End of good-noise-digest V3 #108 ********************************