From: owner-find-your-mind-digest@smoe.org (find-your-mind-digest) To: find-your-mind-digest@smoe.org Subject: find-your-mind-digest V1 #8 Reply-To: find-your-mind@smoe.org Sender: owner-find-your-mind-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-find-your-mind-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk find-your-mind-digest Wednesday, July 15 1998 Volume 01 : Number 008 Today's Subjects: ----------------- kcrw morning becomes eclectic [delirium tremens mcmama blue ] Re: The sightings ["Canyon Man" ] UK ["Harvey, Kim" ] Re: UK ["Canyon Man" ] New Beasties CD ["Kristen A. Hudak" ] Re: New Beasties CD ["Canyon Man" ] A Reply to da Chuckman ["Kristen A. Hudak" ] to rap or not to rap........... ["Canyon Man" ] Re: The sightings ["Canyon Man" ] Re: The Sightings.. ? ["Susan St.Charles" ] The sightings & sexuality ["Kristen A. Hudak" ] BIased opinion ["celestial blue" ] Hello out there.. ["celestial blue" ] Re: Hello out there.. ["Susan St.Charles" ] Re: The sightings & sexuality ["Susan St.Charles" ] Re: Hello out there.. [alckyvox@colba.net] RE: Hello out there.. ["Harvey, Kim" ] Re: Hello out there.. [John Roberts ] I first heard LJ... ["Kristen A. Hudak" ] survey reply...... ["Canyon Man" ] RE: Hello out there.. ["celestial blue" ] Re: I first heard LJ... ["celestial blue" ] Re: I first heard LJ... [Karl Fischer ] Re: I first heard LJ... ["Canyon Man" ] Re: I first heard LJ... [freaker ] Re: Hello out there.. [BBelbis@aol.com] That survey thing... [ArtaudJr@aol.com] Is it just me........ ["Canyon Man" ] Re: Hello out there.. ["Daniel M" ] Re: survey reply...... [Karl Fischer ] Re: survey reply...... ["Canyon Man" ] hey... ["Electric Frog" ] Re: hey... ["Canyon Man" ] philly ["Electric Frog" ] Re: philly ["Canyon Man" ] chat room [freaker ] Re: survey reply...... ["Kristen A. Hudak" ] A note to Kathleen da Electric Frog ["Kristen A. Hudak" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 14:35:27 +0100 From: delirium tremens mcmama blue Subject: kcrw morning becomes eclectic http://www.liveconcerts.com/harddrive/kcrw/kcrwsearchframe.shtml hey dunno if this has been said already but this site´s got live lj ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 07:28:53 PDT From: "celestial blue" Subject: The sightings All those who are lesbians raise their hands! All those who are bi raise their hands :) ! *wink* LOL What a bizarre reaction everyone has had to this topic being brought up...and let me just state for the record....since some people are starting to get upset....that whichever orientation these ladies choose does NOT matter (hey, I'm bi so who am I to talk??), and that I really don't think anyone was criticising the ladies for their choices. I think most of us were just day dreaming! :) So everybody.....chill!!! And let's love the music they bring on!!! (and thanks to the individual who put up that radio clip of LJ...I hadn't heard it yet!) - -Rebecca ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 07:39:39 -0700 From: "Canyon Man" Subject: Re: The sightings >let me just state for the record....since some people are >starting to get upset....that whichever orientation these ladies choose >does NOT matter (hey, I'm bi so who am I to talk??), I don't know. I didn't sense anyone being upset, but maybe I'm missing something. It all started when some guy sent his Find-Your-Mind post directly to me rather than the group, so I passed his message on. Whatever. everybody.....chill!!! And >let's love the music they bring on!!! Yes, you are right. It's all about the music anyway, and, if anything, the reason why LJ has so many fans from all walks of life if because they are very open- minded, cool-minded ladies. - -----== Sent via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Easy access to 50,000+ discussion forums ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 15:51:05 +0100 From: "Harvey, Kim" Subject: UK I think LJ should tour the UK again. I saw them when they'd just released their Natural Ingredients Album, but I just missed their last tour as I was out of the country. I am jealous you all get to see them. Kim ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 08:01:08 -0700 From: "Canyon Man" Subject: Re: UK > I think LJ should tour the UK again. Well, maybe when they put out the new album. They sure seem to enjoy good Indian food, which I understand is all over the UK... at least London. Yummy! Which brings me to my next question. Are all the LJ ladies vegetarians? I know Jill is, but what about Kate and Gab? - -----== Sent via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Easy access to 50,000+ discussion forums ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:10:26 -0400 From: "Kristen A. Hudak" Subject: New Beasties CD Daaaaaamn, this new Beastie Boys kicks major ASS!!! Love it much. It's their best thing, even better than Paul's Boutique. I have a feeling this CD will be trapped in my playa for quite some time...at least until LJ comes out wit' something new. BUY IT, DAMNIT. Even if it's just to hear Jill on "Song for Junior"!! You'll be glad you did. Peace.... Kris ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 10:27:00 -0700 From: "Canyon Man" Subject: Re: New Beasties CD >Daaaaaamn, this new Beastie Boys kicks major ASS!!! Love it much. It's >their best thing, even better than Paul's Boutique. I have a feeling this >CD will be trapped in my playa for quite some time...at least until LJ comes >out wit' something new. BUY IT, DAMNIT. Even if it's just to hear Jill on >"Song for Junior"!! You'll be glad you did. > >Peace.... > >Kris > > My question is this.... I'm not a major rap fan -- not the type of soulful raps that the Gabmeister does with LJ, which is more like word-jazz, but raps that are grating. I guess my problem with some Beasties stuff -- and I'm not too familiar with much more than their early 'License to Ill' album (I haven't even heard Paul's Boutique.) -- is that they tend to sound whiney and squeaky, as if they were imitating Jerry Lewis or something. Is this new album like that, or is it a different style. I'd be willing to check it out if someone her is willing to give an objective review. Thanks. - -----Chuck (CanyonMan) was rapping - -----== Sent via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Easy access to 50,000+ discussion forums ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:45:24 -0400 From: "Kristen A. Hudak" Subject: A Reply to da Chuckman Chuck, I have to say, I'm a bit biased. I like rap a whole lot...I'd rather listen to good rap than other "alternative" music. I own all the Beasties stuff, and I have to say Licensed to Ill is the most annoying. I, too, think their voices are a tad whiny, but that adds to the fun of it. I mean, look at Busta Rhymes' voice -- it's unique in itself. Same goes for BBs. But Hello Nasty has a wonderful blend of ALL kinds of music, not just rap. It's a pretty amazing adventure for that reason. It kinda reminds me of...hmmm, I hate comparisons...Beck's Odelay for it's adventurous sounds and also (dare I say) The Beatles' White Album for the fact that so many types of music are represented. That's the best I can do for ya, bud. Chucky, maybe you should go to one of dem CD stores that lets you listen to the thangs before you buy. Then you can see for yourself. Or, you can always wait a few months until the college kids sell off their copies of Hello Nasty -- and then you can pick it up used. But, I have to say...I really really really dig it. Somebody else help me out here in describing Hello Nasty... Give the Chuckman a hand... Kris ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:04:58 -0700 From: "Canyon Man" Subject: to rap or not to rap........... Well, we were chatting the other day about Nile Rodgers and Bernard Edwards... the stuff they recorded as Chic, as well as stuff they produced for other artists, such as Deborah Harry. When it comes to rap, I tend to favor the more "musical" or, dare I show my age, "discofied" rap stuff.... like Debbie did on "Backfired," like Gabby did on a lot of the 1st two LJ albums, the Sugarhill Gang, Young MC, early FatBoys, Kurtis Blow, Run DMC in the early days, etc. I'm not into the whole gangsta deal, etc..... so I think I'll take a chance and check out the new Beasties CD. Thanks for the info, Kristen. - ----CanyonMan - -----== Sent via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Easy access to 50,000+ discussion forums ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:27:22 -0600 From: Sean Aron Subject: Re: The sightings >>let me just state for the record....since some people are >>starting to get upset....that whichever orientation these ladies choose >>does NOT matter (hey, I'm bi so who am I to talk??), > >I don't know. I didn't sense anyone being upset, but >maybe I'm missing something. It all started when some >guy sent his Find-Your-Mind post directly to me rather >than the group, so I passed his message on. Whatever. That was me, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to offend anyone. Really. And I promise I'll be more carefull with that button... Back into the shadows... - -s ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:39:22 -0700 From: "Canyon Man" Subject: Re: The sightings >>>let me just state for the record....since some people are >>>starting to get upset....that whichever orientation these ladies choose >>>does NOT matter (hey, I'm bi so who am I to talk??), >> >>I don't know. I didn't sense anyone being upset, but >>maybe I'm missing something. It all started when some >>guy sent his Find-Your-Mind post directly to me rather >>than the group, so I passed his message on. Whatever. > >That was me, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to offend anyone. Really. And I >promise I'll be more carefull with that button... > Actually, I thought it was a perfectly natural question, Sean. I mean, think about it.... I realize this is supposed to be a discussion group about LJ's music, but it's normal for admirers of the music to want to know about what makes the creators tick... and a lot of what makes anyone tick comes from life experiences, sexual or otherwise. True, many artists try to draw a line between the personal stuff and what they want the public to know, but in the true artistic sense, the lines are often blurred. Why do you think someone like Prince (or the Artist Formerly Known...) is so fascinating? In addition to his awesome talent, he's very ambiguous, and I think the public eats it up. Opinions??? You know me by now. I never let a good thread die!!! ------CanyonMan - -----== Sent via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Easy access to 50,000+ discussion forums ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 14:15:55 PDT From: "Susan St.Charles" Subject: Re: The Sightings.. ? >Just some food for thought. And LJ is yummy food. I agree!!! ~Susie~ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 18:55:05 -0400 From: "Kristen A. Hudak" Subject: The sightings & sexuality >True, many artists try to draw a line between the personal stuff >and what they want the public to know, but in the true artistic >sense, the lines are often blurred. Why do you think >someone like Prince (or the Artist Formerly Known...) >is so fascinating? In addition to his awesome talent, >he's very ambiguous, and I think the public eats it up. >Opinions??? You know me by now. I never let a good >thread die!!! ------CanyonMan C-man...I kinda see what you're saying. I mean, people are always fascinated by sexual orientation in general. However, when a person displays a sort of ambiguous gender role or personality, some people are drawn to it (some are repulsed, like when you see a gory accident -- you're fascinated as hell but you don't want to admit it). Prince is indeed an excellent example of this phenomenon, as well as Madonna, Freddie Mercury, Little Richard, Anne Murray, Ani DiFranco, Boy George, etc. Yet, I never saw LJ as fitting into that catagory. I mean, they are all strong women; strong women are often perceived by weak minds as "dykes." I don't think the ladies of LJ display an ambiguous gender role or personality. For me, their sexualities were always fairly clear through lyrics (plus my gaydar really helped). Kate never made a secret of her sexuality...even if she did, I'd like to think I would have sensed that one. ;-) Therefore, LJ do not fit into the aforementioned catagory. None of them display a "gender-bending" sense in my opinion. I think we queer gals just like to fantasize about straight girls (that's a whole other argument in itself). As for guys who call LJ a bunch of dykes, it's only 'cause they're too stupid to realize that Women's Lib already happened. In all, I think people just can't seem to get enough of knowing what others do in their bedrooms. I mean, look at phuckin' Monica Lewinsky (yet another argument)! We're always gonna wanna know about who the LJ ladies are with 'cause that's just who we are: children of mass media. Oy, I better let Camille Paglia do all the philosophizin' from now on. I'm startin' to sound like I've been in grad seminars too long... Peace. And thanx, Chuckster, for the conversation...you're makin' sure my mind doesn't turn to mush. I wanna hear someone else's comments on the subject...Susie? Anyone? Kris ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:26:00 PDT From: "celestial blue" Subject: BIased opinion >>>I think we queer gals just like to fantasize about straight girls.. ...Well.....maybe just a bit.... *blush*......mmmm..between the Beastie Boys and Luscious Jackson, Rebecca's a happy grrl!!!! ;) - -Rebecca ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 19:54:55 PDT From: "celestial blue" Subject: Hello out there.. Completely off topic (whatever THAT might have been!!) but I was wondering if there were any fellow Canadians out there..... I've just noticed that there is an interesting mix of people on here and was wondering where everyone lived.... Oh...and part two to my impromtu survey..... how did everyone first hear LJ? I saw them on David Letterman during their press junket for Natural Ingredients...who'd a thought that appearances on tv worked?? I couldn't wait to run out and buy everything I could get my hands on by them!! How about you guys? - -Rebecca ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:59:56 PDT From: "Susan St.Charles" Subject: Re: Hello out there.. >From owner-find-your-mind@smoe.org Tue Jul 14 19:56:51 1998 Received: from smoe.org [204.167.97.154] by siren.shore.net with esmtp (Exim) Completely off topic (whatever THAT might have been!!) but I was wondering if there were any fellow Canadians out there..... I've just noticed that there is an interesting mix of people on here and was wondering where everyone lived.... Nope, Sorry...American. From Middle Georgia. Oh...and part two to my impromtu survey..... how did everyone first hear LJ? I first saw them on Saturday Night Live a long time ago. THey perfprmed City Song and another song, I cant quite remember which one. I later saw them on 120 Minutes and was hooked. Alas, I didnt get their CD until FIFO came out and I bought it. ~Susie~ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:09:11 PDT From: "Susan St.Charles" Subject: Re: The sightings & sexuality TO tell the truth, I never really thought about LJ's sexuality when I first became a fan. Later on I became a bit curious, but didnt know any of their orientations until this thread started. I agree with the analogy about the car crash. Whether people are supportive of or against homosexuality, they are fancinated by it. Personally, I am a somewhat "closet bisexual". Ive had no personal, sexual experiences with women, but fantasize about them like I would any man. (Sorry, I got off the subject) In my opinion, the term "dyke" is used as a euphemism for a combat-boot wearing, buzz cut, bulked up girl. And thats not LJ at all. A strong woman, lesbian or not, does not have to be a "manly" woman. The LJ ladies are strong women. Their sexuality doesnt really stand out to me in their lyrics. But their strength does. (And Gabby and Jill are darn SEXY *s*) ~Susie~ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 01:59:08 -0400 From: alckyvox@colba.net Subject: Re: Hello out there.. >Completely off topic (whatever THAT might have been!!) but I was >wondering if there were any fellow Canadians out there..... I'm Canadian! From Montreal here, dunno if that qualifies as canadian anymore, but oh fuckin well. Where are you from Rebecca? As for the second question, I only got into LJ for their "why Do I lie?" track. It went straight to my guts. Wellll Im steaming drunk and better go sleep so bye!] m - --------------- http://come.to/kostars ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:20:41 +0100 From: "Harvey, Kim" Subject: RE: Hello out there.. I first heard of and saw LJ supporting the Beastie Boys in 94, I really liked them. I saw them again a little while later in a really small venue which had an excellent atmosphere. They were chatting with the crowd as they played and everyone there just seemed to have a really good time. Oh, and I live in Bath in the UK. Kim ---------- From: celestial blue[SMTP:shammycans@hotmail.com] Sent: 15 July 1998 03:54 To: find-your-mind@smoe.org Subject: Hello out there.. Completely off topic (whatever THAT might have been!!) but I was wondering if there were any fellow Canadians out there..... I've just noticed that there is an interesting mix of people on here and was wondering where everyone lived.... Oh...and part two to my impromtu survey..... how did everyone first hear LJ? I saw them on David Letterman during their press junket for Natural Ingredients...who'd a thought that appearances on tv worked?? I couldn't wait to run out and buy everything I could get my hands on by them!! How about you guys? -Rebecca ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:29:11 -0400 From: John Roberts Subject: Re: Hello out there.. > I've just noticed that there is an interesting mix of people on here and > was wondering where everyone lived.... Baltimore, Maryland > Oh...and part two to my impromtu survey..... how did everyone first hear > LJ? Naked Eye on the radio. Despite only learning of them over the past year or so, I'm still a big fan. I'm a huge geek and people like me name their computers stuff that they like. So I work for the government and among all the real star trek and other nerdy computer names there is a computer named luscious that sits on my desk. I scanned in the cover from FIFO and put it on the machine's web page. John - -- John S. Roberts KD4UBM http://psi.ece.jhu.edu/~johnr ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:29:53 -0400 From: "Kristen A. Hudak" Subject: I first heard LJ... I first heard of LJ while reading an assortment of gay / lesbian mags circa In Search of Manny. I liked the way the crits described their sound (combination hip hop, etc.) So I went out and bought Manny based on what I read. And I fell in total love... Oh, and I'm from Pennsylvania. kah ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:08:29 -0700 From: "Canyon Man" Subject: survey reply...... - -- >was wondering where everyone lived.... Central New Jersey. Born in NYC, and lived there sporadically, but have mostly lived in NJ. >Oh...and part two to my impromtu survey..... how did everyone first hear >LJ? I participate in a Laura Nyro discussion group at UTNE: http://www.utne.com About 1 year ago, a woman who posted there mentioned a band her daughter listens to: Luscious Jackson, and that one of the members (turned out to be Jill) was influenced by the lyricism of Nyro. Being a big Nyro fan --- she was *truly* the Godmother of Lilith -- my curiousity peaked after reading that, so on a whim, I ran out and picked up FIFO. I've been hooked ever since. - -----== Sent via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Easy access to 50,000+ discussion forums ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:13:34 PDT From: "celestial blue" Subject: RE: Hello out there.. You got to see them in such a small venue???? (see me now as I turn green with envy!!!) I saw them in a venue here that was fairly small,...and I swear to god I have never been so happy in my life!! Seeing them that close...woo hoo!!! I just stood and watched Kate rock the house! She is truly amazing. Ya see,..I had some surgery done on my shoulder which had broken up my merry little band of bad musicians (I play the drums). Then I saw the concert, three months after my surgery...and Kate had inspired so much I decided I was ready to play again. The fool that I am I raced to my drumset the next day. Yowsers. It took a week straight with my physiotherapist to straighten out my idiot move!! ......ANYWAYS.....enough about me!! *blush* - -Rebecca >>I first heard of and saw LJ supporting the Beastie Boys in 94, I really liked them. I saw them again a little while later in a really small venue which had an excellent atmosphere. They were chatting with the crowd as they played and everyone there just seemed to have a really good time. Oh, and I live in Bath in the UK. Kim ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:22:10 PDT From: "celestial blue" Subject: Re: I first heard LJ... >>I first heard of LJ while reading an assortment of gay / lesbian mags circa In Search of Manny. What?? NO WAY!!....Kristen...YOU were reading a gay/lesbian mag!! Get out of town!! Say you're not a ....... LOL. I'm sorry....I just had to give the shocked reaction that you would get from your basic homophobes!! And considering our recent conversations on this group, it's all just too funny. - -Rebecca :) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:21:27 -0400 From: Karl Fischer Subject: Re: I first heard LJ... I first heard LJ perform LIVE at a corporate party. No Really!! It was the Eidos company party at the '97 Electronic Entertainment Expo (E3) in Atlanta. I had no idea who these four women were but my jaw was on the floor as soon as I heard their sound. Actually just 3--some guy was filling in for Gabby I think. This show is the big yearly get-together for the video game industry. I read that Jill did the voice for a video game--maybe that deal came out of this gig? Lots of exec. types there. Jill's comment on the crazy video game crowd was "hey maybe there's hope for corporate america." Yummy fun. new to the list-- Karl (in Pittsburgh, originally from bay area, california) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 08:32:39 -0700 From: "Canyon Man" Subject: Re: I first heard LJ... - -- On Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:21:27 Karl Fischer wrote: >I first heard LJ perform LIVE at a corporate party. No Really!! It was >the Eidos company party at the '97 Electronic Entertainment Expo (E3) in >Atlanta. I had no idea who these four women were but my jaw was on the >floor as soon as I heard their sound. Actually just 3--some guy was >filling in for Gabby I think. That must have been weird, though, without Gabby. I take it they didn't do a lot of the older stuff, like Daughters of the KAOS and Life of Leasure, heh? - -----== Sent via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Easy access to 50,000+ discussion forums ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:12:07 -0400 From: freaker Subject: Re: I first heard LJ... welcome to the list karl :) > I first heard LJ perform LIVE at a corporate party. No Really!! It was > the Eidos company party at the '97 Electronic Entertainment Expo (E3) in > Atlanta. i actually heard about that...looked everywhere for info...but of course not much around that i could find...hrm...but i guess it is kinda weird...that seems so un-lj... I > read that Jill did the voice for a video game--maybe that deal came out > of this gig? i think that the deal came first...so thats why they played there...tho as usual i could be incredibly wrong...the game is called enemy zero...um it was supposed to be out this past holida season...i dunno if it came out then...but i think its since been released...but i'm not all to into the video game thing...i stick to my pc :) and i haven't even been doing much of that lately (apologies to all those on the list i owe emails to from over the past...er MONTH...i'm working on it) oh and i'm from central jersey as well (originally from the bronx) um...oh yah i first heard lj on wprb--princeton university while being a passenger in my mom's car...i even recall the exact spot we were at on the road...but i won't bother with that...um this was either b4 manny came out and it was just a radio single...or when manny was first released on grand royal...and then it took me a few months to find it myself...and not one fucking store knew who or what a luscious jackson was...but anyhow...i'll shut up now... sara http://www.mygale.org/01/luscious just wondering if anyone was going to lilith in camden on friday? of course no lj...but still wondering... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:35:04 EDT From: BBelbis@aol.com Subject: Re: Hello out there.. Hello all! Here are my answers to the survey: << > I've just noticed that there is an interesting mix of people on here and > was wondering where everyone lived.... Palos Hills, IL (Just outside of Chicago) > Oh...and part two to my impromtu survey..... how did everyone first hear > LJ? My friend who works for capitol/grand royal records convinced me to attend a luscious jackson party followed by their show in chicago @ double door. this all happened right before fever in, fever out was released. at this point, i wasn't a HUGE LJ fan but was familiar with their work cuz i saw them at lalapalooza a few years back. but all things changed when i saw them live, in a small venue. they just blew me away! now, i can't get enough! Brian -- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:06:47 EDT From: ArtaudJr@aol.com Subject: That survey thing... My second post here, coming up... I live in Baltimore, MD,USA..... ....I first heard LJ on a local radio station(WHFS, if anyone from B-more is out there), and it was Citysong. I really could get into the sampling sounds and stuff like that. And the fact that it was all that digital effect stuff, and it wasn't "angry young men" like Mr. Reznor making the music(I like his instrumentation too-don't get me wrong!!) made it that much more interesting to hear. FIFO came out the following year, and then I got it solely to listen to Naked Eye(little did I know the rest of the album would kick ass!). ...The first--and only--time I saw the Ladies live was at the HFStival, here in MD, a little over a year ago; they were basically the only reason I went to the thing in the first place. The staduim was just one big sweat-pit, and I finally squeezed my way up to the front in time to see LJ. That truly had to be one of the most fabulous times of my life--a half hour or so, only thirty feet away from the musicians I had come to adore. And the best part was when they began to play "Under Your Skin," my favorite post-Manny tune. After their set was over, I yelled out,"I love you!!!" pointing at Viv, and I swear to God that she said "I love you too!" back at me(or at least, in the general direction of the crowd, and that's close enough for me!). Whew! Memories sure make you write a lot, don't they? Take care, everyone... - --Steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:52:16 -0700 From: "Canyon Man" Subject: Is it just me........ ......or are Gabby and Jill getting sexier every time I see photos of them? I mean, Gabby's hair is gorgeous and her eyes are so exotic.... and Jill, well ..... Dare I say she's looking more voluptuous???? - -----== Sent via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Easy access to 50,000+ discussion forums ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:46:24 PDT From: "Daniel M" Subject: Re: Hello out there.. Completely off topic (whatever THAT might have been!!) but I was wondering if there were any fellow Canadians out there..... I've just noticed that there is an interesting mix of people on here and was wondering where everyone lived.... Oh...and part two to my impromtu survey..... how did everyone first hear LJ? I saw them on David Letterman during their press junket for Natural Ingredients...who'd a thought that appearances on tv worked?? I couldn't wait to run out and buy everything I could get my hands on by them!! How about you guys? - -Rebecca I first heard about them during an MTV pop quiz just before natural ingredients came out. It was along the lines of who played drums for the beastie boys? later on I saw a report on the week in rock announcing the release of natural ingredients. I heard some bluesy/ jazzy type riffs and I was hooked. Later on I went right out and picked up 'Manny'. ~Daniel~ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 16:36:09 -0400 From: Karl Fischer Subject: Re: survey reply...... Canyon Man wrote: > About 1 year ago, a woman who posted there mentioned a > band her daughter listens to: Luscious Jackson, and > that one of the members (turned out to be Jill) was > influenced by the lyricism of Nyro. Interesting--I just made that same jump but in the opposite direction. I bought my first Laura Nyro CD about a week ago based on the LJ connection. Actually there's more to it than that. Before LJ the only pop/alternative/whatever performer I paid any serious attention to was Tori Amos. Superficially very different from LJ. But recently I found out both Tori and Jill of LJ cite Joni Mitchell as a big songwriting influence. I knew there had to be some common thread! I suppose Nyro is part of the same thread--the godmother as you say. Also lately Tori seems to have become obsessed with heavy rhythm and electronic manipulation (check out "raspberry swirl"). So now she has some strange musical similarity to LJ, although they're starting from totally different directions. Karl ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 13:55:28 -0700 From: "Canyon Man" Subject: Re: survey reply...... - -- On Wed, 15 Jul 1998 16:36:09 Karl Fischer wrote: >Canyon Man wrote: >> About 1 year ago, a woman who posted there mentioned a >> band her daughter listens to: Luscious Jackson, and >> that one of the members (turned out to be Jill) was >> influenced by the lyricism of Nyro. > >Interesting--I just made that same jump but in the opposite direction. >I bought my first Laura Nyro CD about a week ago based on the LJ >connection. Now that you're starting to get into Laura's music, definitely check out a great fan-supported site: http://www.lauranyro.com It's a treasure trove. - -----== Sent via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Easy access to 50,000+ discussion forums ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:00:03 PDT From: "Electric Frog" Subject: hey... just a quick peek to introduce myself.... vital stats: name: Kathleen sex: preferably... location: Philly area I've seen LJ live twice- first time at one of the shows at the E center, second at the TLA last month- that show was killer- I was gonna get up on stage at the end, but I wimped out. I'm debating going to the Lilith show in HersheyPark next month...(I'm going to the Lilith show on July 26 in West Palm Beach) LJ has changed my life in respect to the way I look at music...I just wish more intelligent, articulate people were aware of their talent! >Karl Fischer wrote: >Also lately Tori >seems to have become obsessed with heavy rhythm and electronic >manipulation (check out "raspberry swirl"). Hmmm you make it sound so erotic.... later electric frog ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:08:24 -0700 From: "Canyon Man" Subject: Re: hey... - -- On Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:00:03 Electric Frog wrote: >sex: preferably... Damn... I'm married! Tee hee. >location: Philly area >I've seen LJ live twice- first time at one of the shows at the E center, >second at the TLA last month Alright! I was also at that TLA show. It was actually my first LJ show. Great time for sure. Also, I was back on South Street last Sunday to see a friend of mine, Essra Mohawk, perform at the Pontiac Grille. Talk about an underrated, obscure musician/songwriter. - -----== Sent via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Easy access to 50,000+ discussion forums ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:32:44 PDT From: "Electric Frog" Subject: philly At 02:08 PM 7/15/98 -0700, Canyon Man wrote: > >-- > >On Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:00:03 Electric Frog wrote: > >>sex: preferably... > >Damn... I'm married! Tee hee. LOL > >>location: Philly area >>I've seen LJ live twice- first time at one of the shows at the E center, >>second at the TLA last month > >Alright! I was also at that TLA show. Cool....when I first got there the place was empty...thankfully, the place was almost packed by the time they started. were you in the front row? you weren't the guy that got on stage that tried to molest Gabby, were you??? She looked pretty pissed... It was actually >my first LJ show. Great time for sure. Also, I was back on South Street last Sunday to see a friend of >mine, Essra Mohawk, perform at the Pontiac Grille. mmmmm never been to the Pontiac...i've seen some pretty cool shows advertised there, but I've never had a chance to go Any other Philly listers here? let thyselves (?) be known! Kathleen (aka Electric Frog) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:38:54 -0700 From: "Canyon Man" Subject: Re: philly - -- On Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:32:44 Electric Frog wrote: >At 02:08 PM 7/15/98 -0700, Canyon Man wrote: >> >>-- >> >>On Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:00:03 Electric Frog wrote: >> >>>sex: preferably... >> >>Damn... I'm married! Tee hee. > >LOL >> >>>location: Philly area >>>I've seen LJ live twice- first time at one of the shows at the E >center, >>>second at the TLA last month >> >>Alright! I was also at that TLA show. >Cool....when I first got there the place was empty...thankfully, the >place was almost packed by the time they started. >were you in the front row? you weren't the guy that got on stage that >tried to molest Gabby, were you??? She looked pretty pissed... No, I wasn't that cockhead. >It was actually >>my first LJ show. Great time for sure. Also, I was back on South >Street last Sunday to see a friend of >>mine, Essra Mohawk, perform at the Pontiac Grille. > >mmmmm never been to the Pontiac...i've seen some pretty cool shows >advertised there, but I've never had a chance to go > > It was my 1st time there, and I went because I knew Essra was playing there. She is a Philly legend. > - -----== Sent via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Easy access to 50,000+ discussion forums ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 18:49:25 -0400 From: freaker Subject: chat room for those of you superfreaks with java capable browsers...i've made an lj chat room...it doesn't have a link on the site yet...cuz i figured i'd let you "special" folks give it a try first...anyhow...no big deal...make up a user name...and write yerself a little bio once you log in if you want...and thats it...give it a go... http://www.mygale.org/01/luscious/chat.htm drop notes in here and tell me what you think of it...maybe we can plan times for groups to be in there and chat... sara ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 19:12:10 -0400 From: "Kristen A. Hudak" Subject: Re: survey reply...... Karl wrote this: >Actually there's more to it than that. Before LJ the only >pop/alternative/whatever performer I paid any serious attention >to was Tori Amos. Superficially very different from LJ. But >recently I found out both Tori and Jill of LJ cite Joni Mitchell as a >big songwriting influence. I knew there had to be some >common thread! Karl, Joni Mitchell is my goddess!!! I have **ALL** her stuff...liked her even before LJ. I personally think that EVERY female singer / songwriter of today owes much to Joni -- she paved the way. And her lyrics are sheer poetry. Her album Court and Spark is the greatest record of ALL TIME (for me). Anyone who listens to LJ, Tori, or even Laura Nyro (another genius) should listen to Joni as well, otherwise they're missing a huge part of female songwriting history. It's always a joy to see someone acknowledge her brilliance. Thanks, g. Kris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 19:13:44 -0400 From: "Kristen A. Hudak" Subject: A note to Kathleen da Electric Frog Kathleen, I live in Bethlehem, PA -- about an hour and a half from Philly. Go there as often as I possibly can. Philly fuckin' rules. Kris ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 19:13:57 -0400 From: WWWhatsup Subject: Re: I first heard LJ... It was 94 when I first got on the web There was practilly zilch music up in those days, with the notable exception of the Beastie Boys site (hosted for some obscure reason by Raleigh N&O) which had LJ info. There was an imminent show at Irving Plaza and thus LJ pins were the just about the first I ever made from downloaded designs, I duly set up a stand at an the show (ben harper opening) and sold a few. It was a knockout show. The way Irving is set up I can't see the left hand side of the stage from the stand, so I couldn't actually see the guitarist, (but I could see Viv ok so I didn't mind too much.) I was unable to get to the band to give them some at the show. Then there was an instore at Tower Recs, so I went there with a big bag of pins for the band. I talked my way past the velvet ropes, and kept asking if there was anybody from Elektra who was 'taking care' of the band that would take the pins for them. Eventually I was directed to Gabby... I knew Gabby cos she came and worked for me in the UK in the early 80's, I was amazed, knowing her, that she could be the 'label person in charge'. She grabs me, drags me in to the bands room, and says 'look guys what Joly made for us. Pins!!" I was totally confused and embarrassed and fled, mission accomplished. I then went back to the BB's site and found the interview with Gabby where she mentions working for me, and only then realised that she was actually IN THE BAND... Kristen A. Hudak wrote: > > I first heard of LJ - -- - ------------ joly WWWhatsup http://home.dti.net/joly/home.html Punkcast http://punkcast.com/ ------------------------------ End of find-your-mind-digest V1 #8 **********************************