From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V19 #343 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, March 26 2015 Volume 19 : Number 343 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: fegmaniax-digest V19 #341 [Jeremy Osner ] Re: Binaural vs. stereo recordings [Jeremy Osner ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V19 #341 [David Witzany ] Re: Binaural vs. stereo recordings [Jeremy Osner ] Binaural vs. stereo recordings [David Witzany ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V19 #341 [Jeremy Osner ] Re: Jefferson Starship [2fs ] reap ["Stewart C. Russell" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 12:44:18 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V19 #341 "binaural recordings" Is that different from "stereo recordings?" 2015-03-24 12:10 GMT-04:00 David Witzany : > Amazing sound. The music jumps right through the echo. I may have to > start making binaural recordings instead of soundboards to catch that > presence. > > Thanks, Lauren! > > Dave. > > Dave Witzany > witzanyd@gmail.com ...one of Nature's bounds checkers. > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:50 AM, fegmaniax-digest < > owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org> wrote: > > > > > fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, March 24 2015 Volume 19 : Number > > 341 > > > > > > > > Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 10:39:17 -0400 > > From: lep > > Subject: Fwd: NEW on DIME: Robyn Hitchcock - Union Chapel, London - 18 > > May, 1995 > > > . > > > . > snip > . > . > > > > - -- > > "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the > buddha > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of fegmaniax-digest V19 #341 > > ******************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 13:01:48 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: Binaural vs. stereo recordings Does taping that way mean you need to sit stock-still during the show? 2015-03-24 13:00 GMT-04:00 David Witzany : > Binaural recordings not only have two microphones, the mics are actually > suspended within your outer ear, sort of like hearing aids. They use your > head-shadow to give the recording the same stereo separation as your own > ears do. The article's correct--since my recordings are colored by the > shape of my ears, you'll only get identical playback if your ears are the > same shape. There's enough coloration from headphone dynamics and what > not, it's not really worth sweating. (The recordings sound just fine > through speakers.) If folks are interested, I can post one of my > recordings to my Dropbox. > > Dave. > > Dave Witzany > witzanyd@gmail.com ...one of Nature's bounds checkers. > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > >> Huh, looked at the wikipedia entry and apparently yes, it is different. >> Loved this sentence: "As a general rule, for true binaural results, an >> audio recording and reproduction system chain, from microphone to >> listener's brain, should contain one and only one set of pinnae (preferably >> the listener's own) and one head-shadow." >> >> >> 2015-03-24 12:44 GMT-04:00 Jeremy Osner : >> >>> "binaural recordings" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 11:10:36 -0500 From: David Witzany Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V19 #341 Amazing sound. The music jumps right through the echo. I may have to start making binaural recordings instead of soundboards to catch that presence. Thanks, Lauren! Dave. Dave Witzany witzanyd@gmail.com ...one of Nature's bounds checkers. On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:50 AM, fegmaniax-digest < owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org> wrote: > > fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, March 24 2015 Volume 19 : Number > 341 > > > > Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 10:39:17 -0400 > From: lep > Subject: Fwd: NEW on DIME: Robyn Hitchcock - Union Chapel, London - 18 > May, 1995 > . > . snip . . > - -- > "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha > > ------------------------------ > > End of fegmaniax-digest V19 #341 > ******************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 13:18:26 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: Binaural vs. stereo recordings One other thing, how do you avoid picking up noise from breathing and swallowing? 2015-03-24 13:01 GMT-04:00 Jeremy Osner : > Does taping that way mean you need to sit stock-still during the show? > > 2015-03-24 13:00 GMT-04:00 David Witzany : > > > Binaural recordings not only have two microphones, the mics are actually > > suspended within your outer ear, sort of like hearing aids. They use > your > > head-shadow to give the recording the same stereo separation as your own > > ears do. The article's correct--since my recordings are colored by the > > shape of my ears, you'll only get identical playback if your ears are the > > same shape. There's enough coloration from headphone dynamics and what > > not, it's not really worth sweating. (The recordings sound just fine > > through speakers.) If folks are interested, I can post one of my > > recordings to my Dropbox. > > > > Dave. > > > > Dave Witzany > > witzanyd@gmail.com ...one of Nature's bounds checkers. > > > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Jeremy Osner > wrote: > > > >> Huh, looked at the wikipedia entry and apparently yes, it is different. > >> Loved this sentence: "As a general rule, for true binaural results, an > >> audio recording and reproduction system chain, from microphone to > >> listener's brain, should contain one and only one set of pinnae > (preferably > >> the listener's own) and one head-shadow." > >> > >> > >> 2015-03-24 12:44 GMT-04:00 Jeremy Osner : > >> > >>> "binaural recordings" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 12:00:13 -0500 From: David Witzany Subject: Binaural vs. stereo recordings Binaural recordings not only have two microphones, the mics are actually suspended within your outer ear, sort of like hearing aids. They use your head-shadow to give the recording the same stereo separation as your own ears do. The article's correct--since my recordings are colored by the shape of my ears, you'll only get identical playback if your ears are the same shape. There's enough coloration from headphone dynamics and what not, it's not really worth sweating. (The recordings sound just fine through speakers.) If folks are interested, I can post one of my recordings to my Dropbox. Dave. Dave Witzany witzanyd@gmail.com ...one of Nature's bounds checkers. On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > Huh, looked at the wikipedia entry and apparently yes, it is different. > Loved this sentence: "As a general rule, for true binaural results, an > audio recording and reproduction system chain, from microphone to > listener's brain, should contain one and only one set of pinnae (preferably > the listener's own) and one head-shadow." > > > 2015-03-24 12:44 GMT-04:00 Jeremy Osner : > >> "binaural recordings" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 12:46:07 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V19 #341 Huh, looked at the wikipedia entry and apparently yes, it is different. Loved this sentence: "As a general rule, for true binaural results, an audio recording and reproduction system chain, from microphone to listener's brain, should contain one and only one set of pinnae (preferably the listener's own) and one head-shadow." 2015-03-24 12:44 GMT-04:00 Jeremy Osner : > "binaural recordings" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 15:11:00 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Jefferson Starship See to me, Balin was always the source of the shmaltziest aspects of the band. In the early days, it was actually pretty good...but name the most lovey-dovey, soft-rockish songs...and they tend to be Balin's... On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Eric Loehr wrote: > Agreed on all counts; I do miss Marty Balin, though. > > > > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Jeff Norman >wrote: > > > I recently ran into a torrent of Airplane/Starship stuff - while in > > general, the '80s and late was pretty awful going, almost always Kantner > > was able to pull out at least one good song on every record (although > > sometimes it was ruined by arrangement and production). But, there was a > > fairly recent couple records that, while nowhere near the Airplane-era > > peak, were well past the commercialized glurk of the '80s stuff: > > folk-influenced, still very political, etc. > > > > To me, Kantner's always been the heart and soul of that band(s?): when > > he's on, they're at least interesting; when he's off (or absent), well, > > it's chancey. > > > > Hurled from a great height > > > > > On Jan 30, 2014, at 11:15 AM, Eric Loehr wrote: > > > > > > I've heard some recent Starship recordings and they've actually sounded > > > pretty good. I believe that Paul Kantner is ill (don't know how > serious > > it > > > may be), though, and isn't on the current tour - - so David Freiburg is > > the > > > only original member currently, if that matters to you... > > > > > > Eric > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 10:14 AM, MICHAEL GODWIN < > > m.r.godwin1@btinternet.com > > >> wrote: > > > > > >> Thanks for all the advice concerning of Montreal - I am certainly > > tempted > > >> to > > >> give them a try, even if they are playing on a Monday, my least > > favourite > > >> day > > >> for going out. My next question concerns Jefferson Starship, who are > > >> playing > > >> in Frome tomorrow. > > >> > > >> > > >> I used to enjoy seeing the old Airplane in the 60s and > > >> 70s, and I like some of the Kantner and Slick albums such as Baron von > > >> Tollbooth and the Chrome Nun, but all I have ever heard of Starship is > > that > > >> they are not in the same league. They are, however, supposed to be > > basing > > >> their set on Surrealistic Pillow, which has lots of good songs on it. > > >> > > >> Has > > >> anyone seen recent line-ups (lines-up)? I gather that Paul Kantner and > > >> David > > >> Freiburg are the only members from the old days. > > >> > > >> - Mike Godwin > > >> > > >> PS As always, > > >> delighted to see plenty of posts here! > - -- ...Jeff Norman Of the Milwaukee ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 13:43:55 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: reap Pete Seeger, 94. Not unexpected (especially after Toshi died last summer), but - damn. I've seen him turn respected musicians into blithering fanboys ("will he sign my banjo head? I hope he signs my banjo head ..."). The GRAVITY IS JUST A THEORY bumper sticker he gave me has been released, but we'll always have his songs. Off to the basement to pick quietly on my Seeger-style longneck banjo. Stewart ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V19 #343 ********************************