From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V19 #97 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, October 8 2011 Volume 19 : Number 097 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: How do you work this thing? [Miles Goosens ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 22:28:02 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: How do you work this thing? On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 9:23 PM, 2fs wrote: > On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 8:33 PM, Rex Broome wrote: > >> On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 10:00 AM, lep wrote: >> >> Moz lui-meme's lyrics always strongly suggested to me that if you didn't do >> exactly as he >> did, you were beneath contempt. Of course there's that surface-level >> putdown of all things popular and banal, which is normal for an >> "underground" band, but beyond that there seemed to be many, many strict >> proscriptions as to *how specifically* to be countercultural, and a >> sneering >> suggestion that if you did so in some other less-Morrissistic fashion, you >> were doing it wrong. Actually, "Cemetry Gates" is one of the prime >> offenders, strongly suggesting that it's not enough to be unfashionably >> bookish, but that you really had to worship the *right* dead poets or "you >> lose". >> >> > Uh - except for "Meat Is Murder" (the song) - which really is unbearably > preachy - I think you're taking him too seriously - assuming his words are > literal, or only literal. > > I take his lyrics much more in a sort of ironic, Wildean mode..."here's the > sort of thing this character might say..." - even though, true, probably he > was recognizing tendencies of that sort in himself at the same time...and > also at the same time, exhibiting that typically British rock-star egotism > that seems almost required - yr Ian McCulloch "I'm the best singer in the > best band ever" type of thing... And, at the same time, writing great self-effacing songs like "The Queen Is Dead" and "Bigmouth Strikes Again." Morrissey hasn't taken himself that seriously since MEAT IS MURDER (and "Meat Is Murder"); it amazes me how his most slavish fans and most ardent detractors still do. later, Miles ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V19 #97 *******************************