From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V19 #73 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, September 28 2011 Volume 19 : Number 073 Today's Subjects: ----------------- More Robyn Hitchcock Dates Announced [ART ROCK POSTER ] Re: Hey fegs, remember when we used to discuss television and Television all the time? [Rex Broome ] Re: Hey fegs, remember when we used to discuss television and Television all the time? [Rex Broome ] Re: stream-a-go-go [michael wells ] happy birthday [Jill Brand ] Re: rem [kevin studyvin ] Re: Hey fegs, remember when we used to discuss television and Television all the time? [Stewart Russell ] Re: stream-a-go-go [Christopher Gross ] Re: Hey fegs, remember when we used to discuss television and Television all the time? [2fs ] Re: happy birthday [FS Thomas ] Re: Hey fegs, remember when we used to discuss television and Television all the time? [2fs ] Tech Question ["Red-Headed Chuck" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 20:08:14 -0500 From: ART ROCK POSTER Subject: More Robyn Hitchcock Dates Announced http://www.robynhitchcock.com/tourdates/ More Robyn Hitchcock Dates Announced March 26, 2011 - Tucson, AZ at Barrio Festival (solo with Peter, Scott, Linda & Steve who are also performing as The Baseball Project) June 5, 2011 - Spiegeltent, UK at Bath Fringe Festival (Robyn plays solo acoustic and then performs the Clear Spot show with The Imaginary Band) June 30, 2011 - Egersund Festival, Norway (Robyn and Joe Boyd perform Live & Direct from 1967) July 2, 2011 - Egersund Festival, Norway (Robyn and The Imaginary Band) August 19, 2011 - Green Man Festival, South Wales (Robyn and band play psyche melange) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 12:27:36 -0700 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: Hey fegs, remember when we used to discuss television and Television all the time? On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Stewart Russell wrote: > > So, uh, Rex, tell us how you're really feeling here ... > ;-) Well, I'm just sayin', is all. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 20:25:06 -0700 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: rem On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 8:19 PM, kevin studyvin wrote: > > Ditto on The Cure singles. I never cared much about REM one way or the > other, but I did think SHP was a great pop tune. And having Kate from the > B-52s on it didn't hurt a bit either. > Probably one of the few things that's as true today as it was in 1991 is that it takes *SRS BALLS* to put out an unapologetically bright giddy guitar pop single. Strange, but true, I think. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 12:14:17 -0700 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: Hey fegs, remember when we used to discuss television and Television all the time? On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 11:39 AM, 2fs wrote: > > Although to be fair, he mostly only pisses on Verlaine rather than Smith or > Ficca. > Yes, but considering that Smith and Ficca-- and the sadly unsung Jimmy Rip, who has spent more time over the past three decades attuning his not inconsiderable chops to Verlaine's-- have their best chances at a musical future by continuing to play with Verlaine, it's a majorly dickish move of Lloyd to slag them off right now, when he voluntarily opted out of Television some time ago. To relate it to the recent dissolution of R.E.M., imagine that the only notices of the release of "Collapse Into Now" had been headlined "Despite Bill Berry's contentions that it blows, new R.E.M. album is released". That never would have happened, but it's an instructive possibility. You don't want to be in a band any more, fine, but why spend most of your subsequent life pissing on their future prospects, especially when you, as opposed to EVERY SINGLE OTHER PERSON IN THE ENTIRE GODDAM UNIVERSE get to be the lead guitarist for fucking Rocket From The Tombs? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 19:37:36 -0800 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: stream-a-go-go > P.S. for those wondering, if you go theoretical enough CS = math = > logic. which is how i went. Lauren, I've been meaning to ask you about this. Eden watches a lot of videos by this chick, and I went through a whole series of reactions in the first minute or two of watching it, ranging from "where's this going" to "I remember beings sort of like this" to "bit full of herself, isn't she?" to "this is cool" to "this is a total put-on" to "I wonder what Lauren would make of this". Ultimately I concluded that I wasn't going to come to any decision before I'd need to forbid Eden to ever listen to it again without earphones on. The comments are kind of funny in their own way, but that's the way these things tend to work. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK5Z709J2eo&playnext=1&list=PLF87CD60A2017E8FF&index=16 I used to wonder what my kids would come up with that would irritate their fundamentally punk rock parents, assuming (correctly) that they wouldn't find pedestrian pop culture an option. Eden has finally answered that question by becoming obsessed with YouTubers. The content of the stuff she watches ranges from quite good to basically risible (made cool by association), but it drives me around the bend that everything she listens to, reads, watches, and espouses as fact comes through the filter or, or at least carries the imprimatur of, an irritating, insular and self-congratulatory community of ... I dunno, I wanna say wankers. In other words, yeah, punk rock. Except that I don't like it much. (YouTube music in particular is pretty smarmy... these people appear to revere They Might Be Giants in the same way I did the Velvets at their age, and I just don't find that viable. But there's a vast divide between some of the clever songwriter ukulele guys, many of whom at least evince a lot of craft, and some of the crappy GarageBand navel-gazers producing dull, bouncy pop about novelty topics like Pokemon or whatever. And then there are the found-video autotune pastiche artists... some of that stuff is cool, but it gets ruined by shitty attention whores producing endless "cover versions" of it the next day. But I can tell you this: the single most popular song among 12-year-old girls this year is not by Justin Bieber or one of those Hot Topic bands... it is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCXlL2MgIxA&feature=related Seriously, find a 12-year-old girl and say "Well, obviously..." and they will automatically sing this thing to you.) - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 10:55:38 -0600 From: michael wells Subject: Re: stream-a-go-go thx c*! On Dec 22, 2010, at 4:20 PM, craigie* wrote: And now you can all get it here; http://www.megaupload.com/?d=H8AIXN9V The stream was mp3 sourced. I've done some remedial de-popping of Blue Moon of Kentucky, some intro/outro boosting, and the studio outtakes (which were mono) have been electronically reprocessed for stereo to enhance your listening pleasure. All the live tracks were lightly treated with pixie dust to widen the stereo. share and enjoy! c* On 21 December 2010 23:42, craigie* wrote: > I ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 21:01:48 -0500 (EST) From: Jill Brand Subject: happy birthday Robyn, wherever you are and whatever you're doing, I hope you are having a grand time. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 20:19:08 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: rem > I actually like "Shiny Happy People" a lot and don't really feel much need > to defend it... its virtues really should be self-evident. Great inventive > arrangement, classic guitar riff, terrific vocal melody, classy vocal > interplay... what's not to love? It's also really neither a blatant pop > move (were songs with string quartets and shifting time signature and > tempos > really big in 1991?) nor one of the Green-style meta comments on pop fame > things... it can pretty much only exist because the band wanted it to. > > So yeah, I did just defend it, I guess. And it probably was silly-- I bet > nobody here is going to express any dislike for it. Just a hunch. > > I really like all of The Cure's dorky pop singles, too. > > -Rex > Ditto on The Cure singles. I never cared much about REM one way or the other, but I did think SHP was a great pop tune. And having Kate from the B-52s on it didn't hurt a bit either. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 15:23:49 -0400 From: Stewart Russell Subject: Re: Hey fegs, remember when we used to discuss television and Television all the time? On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Rex Broome wrote: > > ... especially when you, as opposed to > EVERY SINGLE OTHER PERSON IN THE ENTIRE GODDAM UNIVERSE get to be the lead > guitarist for fucking Rocket From The Tombs? So, uh, Rex, tell us how you're really feeling here ... ;-) - -- http://scruss.com/blog/ - 73 de VA3PID ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 22:46:31 -0500 From: ross Subject: Re: /* sob */ On 11-03-03 03:37 PM, lep wrote: > I'm going to weep if our birthday boy doesn't get a few wishes on the > fegList to-day. > > Happies to Robyn! Wait til you get older than this And then turn around and tell me I was young for my age Yeah ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 22:53:52 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: stream-a-go-go On Wed, 22 Dec 2010, lep wrote: >>> http://gizmodo.com/5561499/we-really-like-the-facebook-like-button-rubber-stamp >> >> This morning I was looking at a hallway sign where students could write >> their wishes for the new year, and upon reading an especially clever wish, I >> was seized by a terrible urge to click "like." If only I had the stamp! > > i SO often have that urge. i think mostly on the internet, but sometimes IRL. > > so, are you going to share the wish with us? To be honest, I can't remember it anymore. It wasn't *that* clever. I can, however, recall the saddest wish I read. It was repeated in the same handwriting on two or three wish posters: "I wish my boyfriend loved me again." On that note, Merry Christmas everyone! - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 13:39:58 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Hey fegs, remember when we used to discuss television and Television all the time? On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Rex Broome wrote: > So since the list is kind of rebooted, here's a topic for discussion. > > Richard Lloyd's performance as a guitarist on the new Rocket From The Tombs > record "Barfly" is by all account exemplary. His performance as an > internet > assclown pissing on the work of his former bandmates in Television is, > while > perhaps equally fiery, ultimately less inspirational. Click and discuss. > > http://www.prefixmag.com/news/**richard-lloyd-comments-on-new-** > television-song-shit/56827/< > http://www.prefixmag.com/news/richard-lloyd-comments-on-new-television-song-shit/56827/ > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=Rh9fHZ17HWE&feature=player_**embedded< > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh9fHZ17HWE&feature=player_embedded> > -------------- > Although to be fair, he mostly only pisses on Verlaine rather than Smith or Ficca. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 10:30:45 -0700 From: Rex Broome Subject: Hey fegs, remember when we used to discuss television and Television all the time? So since the list is kind of rebooted, here's a topic for discussion. Richard Lloyd's performance as a guitarist on the new Rocket From The Tombs record "Barfly" is by all account exemplary. His performance as an internet assclown pissing on the work of his former bandmates in Television is, while perhaps equally fiery, ultimately less inspirational. Click and discuss. http://www.prefixmag.com/news/**richard-lloyd-comments-on-new-** television-song-shit/56827/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=Rh9fHZ17HWE&feature=player_**embedded - -------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 13:57:33 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Hey fegs, remember when we used to discuss television and Television all the time? His very frequent F*cebook posts consist of essentially 90% "Check out this article from Scientific American" and 10% "Here's a song from Adventure. I wanted to use the lead I did from a different take but Tom wouldn't stand for it." Interesting and not all at the same time. - -tc On Sep 28, 2011, at 10:30 AM, Rex Broome wrote: > So since the list is kind of rebooted, here's a topic for discussion. > > Richard Lloyd's performance as a guitarist on the new Rocket From The Tombs > record "Barfly" is by all account exemplary. His performance as an internet > assclown pissing on the work of his former bandmates in Television is, while > perhaps equally fiery, ultimately less inspirational. Click and discuss. > > http://www.prefixmag.com/news/**richard-lloyd-comments-on-new-** > television-song-shit/56827/ > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=Rh9fHZ17HWE&feature=player_**embedded > -------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 15:09:57 -0800 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: 1-800-FEG-HELP On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Sebastian Hagedorn < Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-koeln.de> wrote: > -- lep is rumored to have mumbled on 3. Mdrz 2011 > 15:57:34 -0500 regarding 1-800-FEG-HELP: > > > What program do you use to burn your mp3s, and what bit rate do you burn? >> > > I use iTunes and Apple's current default, which is iTunes Plus (256 kbps > AAC). AAC is also a standard, so I don't get why people would still use MP3. > Are there actually still players that can't handle AAC? Everyone agrees that > AAC is the superior code, right? > For me, it was just plain "critical mass"... AAC used to give plenty of players problems, and that was the time when I ripped most of my CDs. Which was a fuckload. So when I sold all my CDs, I had some to re-rip to 320 mp3s, but if I'd gone for another format, it wouldn't have gotten done, and my kids wouldn't have gone to camp, or indeed anywhere, that summer. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 21:53:02 -0500 From: FS Thomas Subject: Re: happy birthday On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Jill Brand wrote: > Robyn, wherever you are and whatever you're doing, I hope you are having a > grand time. > Same here. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 14:27:18 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Hey fegs, remember when we used to discuss television and Television all the time? True enough. Dry-cleaning bills from Messrs. Ficca and Smith will also be forwarded to Mr. Lloyd. On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Rex Broome wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 11:39 AM, 2fs wrote: > >> >> Although to be fair, he mostly only pisses on Verlaine rather than Smith >> or >> Ficca. >> > > Yes, but considering that Smith and Ficca-- and the sadly unsung Jimmy Rip, > who has spent more time over the past three decades attuning his not > inconsiderable chops to Verlaine's-- have their best chances at a musical > future by continuing to play with Verlaine, it's a majorly dickish move of > Lloyd to slag them off right now, when he voluntarily opted out of > Television some time ago. > > To relate it to the recent dissolution of R.E.M., imagine that the only > notices of the release of "Collapse Into Now" had been headlined "Despite > Bill Berry's contentions that it blows, new R.E.M. album is released". That > never would have happened, but it's an instructive possibility. You don't > want to be in a band any more, fine, but why spend most of your subsequent > life pissing on their future prospects, especially when you, as opposed to > EVERY SINGLE OTHER PERSON IN THE ENTIRE GODDAM UNIVERSE get to be the lead > guitarist for fucking Rocket From The Tombs? > > - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 21:19:47 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: 1-800-FEG-HELP On 11-03-03 16:46 , lep wrote: > > of course, now that i have an actual ipod and not just an iphone (to > annoy me by ringing when it's supposed to be playing music), i could > just get a port installed in the honda. We got the cheapest Kenwood USB capable radio installed in the old Civic in December. It turned out to be $10 more than a iPod-only port (which wouldn't work with my Touch, anyway) for the existing unit. It was awesome for the long drive south over fegsmas. Great sound quality, easy control, and the ability to be really annoying by channeling iPod Touch game noises at top volume. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 18:20:14 -0700 From: "Red-Headed Chuck" Subject: Tech Question anybody can figure out how the fuck to download ? i've tried URL Snooper 2, Cache Viewer Continued, WM Recorder, Get FLV, and probably some other shit, too. they can all detect the fucking *commercial* preceding the concert just fine -- but not the concert itself. CBS must be using some kind of super-spy URL-blocking mechanism (or what). damned hackers are asleep at the frigging switch, i tells ya! tweedy looks really horrible, by the way. i thought he was all cleaned up? ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V19 #73 *******************************