From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V19 #31 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, April 4 2011 Volume 19 : Number 031 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Rumor has it... [ART ROCK POSTER ] Re: Rumor has it... [ART ROCK POSTER ] why I've always hated Bob Dylan [Jill Brand ] Re: why I've always hated Bob Dylan [Jeremy Osner ] Re: why I've always hated Bob Dylan [Jeremy Osner ] Re: why I've always hated Bob Dylan ["Danny Lieberman" ] Re: why I've always hated Bob Dylan ["Stewart C. Russell" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 12:19:51 -0400 From: ART ROCK POSTER Subject: Re: Rumor has it... one time at band camp, lep (softboygirl@gmail.com) said: >...Robyn has a new album coming out quite soon. it's also mentioned all sideways-like in the latest news item on the website: : Treatment _Treatment_, written and co-directed by Robyn's good friend and frequent collaborator Sean Nelson, is screening this April as part of the annual Tribeca Film Festival. Robyn created incidental music for the film and makes a cameo appearance. The song "Dismal City" taken from his forthcoming album _TROMSO, KAPTEIN_ features as the end titles song. Showtimes are below. April 22nd at 8:30 pm April 24 at 10:00 pm April 29 at 4:00 pm All showings at AMC Village 7 which is located at 66 3rd Ave. NY, NY 10003 More info http://www.tribecafilm.com/filmguide/treatment-film36488.html tempted to check this out. any nycfegs wanna join me? woj ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 12:29:01 -0400 From: ART ROCK POSTER Subject: Re: Rumor has it... one time at band camp, lep (softboygirl@gmail.com) said: >...Robyn has a new album coming out quite soon. and a bit more information and what one would assume is the album cover artwork at hype city recordings' facebook. Hype City will release a new collection of songs by Robyn Hitchcock on April 8th, TROMSO, KAPTEIN on LP and CD. Produced by Paul Noble, the record features 8 new RH compositions as well as a re-recording of 'Raining Twilight Coast' from EYE and a new Norwegian language version of GOODNIGHT OSLO. woj ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 22:41:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: why I've always hated Bob Dylan I thought this might catch some eyes. Today, armed with Motrin and a bottle of Vicodin (the wisdom tooth disaster continues), my husband and I went to see "Phil Ochs - There But For Fortune" at the Coolidge Corner Cinema in Brookline, MA. We saw it in their tiny screening room which fits, get this, 14 people. We bought the tix online because I am a neurotic Cancer who has to have all her ducks in a row before she does anything. We got there 20 minutes early and thought we would be having a private screening, but we soon found out that it was sold out. We were surrounded by lots of Jewish red-diaper babies (God, I felt so at home), and the women all looked more worse (worser?) for the wear than I do (they were also a bit older - I'm somewhat young for the Phil Ochs crowd, though I am an ancient feg). The woman in front of me asked me if I was a Phil Ochs fan; all I could say was "yes". If I had started to talk about it, I would have started blithering and then blubbering. I brought lots of tissues. This is an excellent documentary about a somewhat extraordinary and sad life. If you don't know any Phil Ochs music, get "In Concert" from somewhere. He was a wonderful lyricist, his melodies transported me, and he had a compelling voice. Of course, it helps if your politics are left of center and you think that Richard Nixon was the devil incarnate. So why the message subject? Well, when I was a kid, you had to make some decisions: the Monkees or the Beatles, Bob Dylan or Phil Ochs. Dylan and Ochs were "friends", but since Dylan tended to treat people like shit (there is a famous, though possibly apocryphal, story of Bobby D's throwing Phil out of a car), and because I was pure politics as a teenager, Phil Ochs was my luminary, and Dylan was a fake. Regardless of how you feel about Dylan, Phil Ochs, Vietnam, or Richard Nixon, this documentary is worth seeing. It's playing at all sorts of festivals, and you can check out dates here: http://firstrunfeatures.com/philochs_playdates.html If one person from our merry band checks this out, I'll be happy. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 22:59:45 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: why I've always hated Bob Dylan I like Phil Ochs but I don't see that as an obstacle to also digging Bob Dylan. Actually speaking of Dylan, check out the first track of this tape: http://readin.com/blog/2230 J 2011/4/3 Jill Brand : > I thought this might catch some eyes. Today, armed with Motrin and a bottle > of Vicodin (the wisdom tooth disaster continues), my husband and I went to > see "Phil Ochs - There But For Fortune" at the Coolidge Corner Cinema in > Brookline, MA. We saw it in their tiny screening room which fits, get this, > 14 people. We bought the tix online because I am a neurotic Cancer who has > to have all her ducks in a row before she does anything. We got there 20 > minutes early and thought we would be having a private screening, but we > soon found out that it was sold out. We were surrounded by lots of Jewish > red-diaper babies (God, I felt so at home), and the women all looked more > worse (worser?) for the wear than I do (they were also a bit older - I'm > somewhat young for the Phil Ochs crowd, though I am an ancient feg). The > woman in front of me asked me if I was a Phil Ochs fan; all I could say was > "yes". If I had started to talk about it, I would have started blithering > and then blubbering. I brought lots of tissues. > > This is an excellent documentary about a somewhat extraordinary and sad > life. If you don't know any Phil Ochs music, get "In Concert" from > somewhere. He was a wonderful lyricist, his melodies transported me, and he > had a compelling voice. Of course, it helps if your politics are left of > center and you think that Richard Nixon was the devil incarnate. > > So why the message subject? Well, when I was a kid, you had to make some > decisions: the Monkees or the Beatles, Bob Dylan or Phil Ochs. Dylan and > Ochs were "friends", but since Dylan tended to treat people like shit (there > is a famous, though possibly apocryphal, story of Bobby D's throwing Phil > out of a car), and because I was pure politics as a teenager, Phil Ochs was > my luminary, and Dylan was a fake. > > Regardless of how you feel about Dylan, Phil Ochs, Vietnam, or Richard > Nixon, this documentary is worth seeing. It's playing at all sorts of > festivals, and you can check out dates here: > > http://firstrunfeatures.com/philochs_playdates.html > > If one person from our merry band checks this out, I'll be happy. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 23:18:34 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: why I've always hated Bob Dylan > don't see that as an obstacle to also digging > Bob Dylan - --indeed quite the contrary! 2011/4/3 Jeremy Osner : > I like Phil Ochs but I . Actually speaking of Dylan, check out the first track of > this tape: http://readin.com/blog/2230 > > J > > 2011/4/3 Jill Brand : >> I thought this might catch some eyes. Today, armed with Motrin and a bottle >> of Vicodin (the wisdom tooth disaster continues), my husband and I went to >> see "Phil Ochs - There But For Fortune" at the Coolidge Corner Cinema in >> Brookline, MA. We saw it in their tiny screening room which fits, get this, >> 14 people. We bought the tix online because I am a neurotic Cancer who has >> to have all her ducks in a row before she does anything. We got there 20 >> minutes early and thought we would be having a private screening, but we >> soon found out that it was sold out. We were surrounded by lots of Jewish >> red-diaper babies (God, I felt so at home), and the women all looked more >> worse (worser?) for the wear than I do (they were also a bit older - I'm >> somewhat young for the Phil Ochs crowd, though I am an ancient feg). The >> woman in front of me asked me if I was a Phil Ochs fan; all I could say was >> "yes". If I had started to talk about it, I would have started blithering >> and then blubbering. I brought lots of tissues. >> >> This is an excellent documentary about a somewhat extraordinary and sad >> life. If you don't know any Phil Ochs music, get "In Concert" from >> somewhere. He was a wonderful lyricist, his melodies transported me, and he >> had a compelling voice. Of course, it helps if your politics are left of >> center and you think that Richard Nixon was the devil incarnate. >> >> So why the message subject? Well, when I was a kid, you had to make some >> decisions: the Monkees or the Beatles, Bob Dylan or Phil Ochs. Dylan and >> Ochs were "friends", but since Dylan tended to treat people like shit (there >> is a famous, though possibly apocryphal, story of Bobby D's throwing Phil >> out of a car), and because I was pure politics as a teenager, Phil Ochs was >> my luminary, and Dylan was a fake. >> >> Regardless of how you feel about Dylan, Phil Ochs, Vietnam, or Richard >> Nixon, this documentary is worth seeing. It's playing at all sorts of >> festivals, and you can check out dates here: >> >> http://firstrunfeatures.com/philochs_playdates.html >> >> If one person from our merry band checks this out, I'll be happy. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 01:00:38 -0400 (EDT) From: "Danny Lieberman" Subject: Re: why I've always hated Bob Dylan Jill, I managed to catch the Ochs doc while it was playing an extended engagement here in NY at the IFC theatre (the rebuilt and renamed "Waverly") a few months back and found it engaging, and ultimately a real emotional hayride. Phil Ochs was one of my early musical influences, I'm not sure why. Possibly because my parents were part of that 60s folk music club and took me to more than a few shows involving Seeger and his ilk. Yeah I wasn't too surprised with the way things turned out between Phil and Dylan. - -- Danny Lieberman dfl@panix.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2011 07:15:24 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: why I've always hated Bob Dylan dammit, it appears I've missed this docu's *three* runs in Toronto. Poo. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 16:08:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: Re: why I've always hated Bob Dylan On Sun, 3 Apr 2011, Jeremy Osner wrote: > I like Phil Ochs but I don't see that as an obstacle to also digging > Bob Dylan. > > J No, but you weren't a 12-year-old in Brooklyn in 1967, were you? Back then, young people who had older siblings who were into the new folk rock/protest movement were taking sides. The more politically hot-headed you were, the more you liked Phil Ochs. Dylan's esoteric lyrics (plus his snotty attitude) was eschewed (not that we knew what that word meant). Anyway, my point wasn't that I hate Dylan now (though I'm truly not a big fan, though I've tried) - my point was that people should see this documentary if they have a chance. Capish? :) > 2011/4/3 Jill Brand : >> I thought this might catch some eyes. Today, armed with Motrin and a bottle >> of Vicodin (the wisdom tooth disaster continues), my husband and I went to >> see "Phil Ochs - There But For Fortune" at the Coolidge Corner Cinema in >> Brookline, MA. We saw it in their tiny screening room which fits, get this, >> 14 people. We bought the tix online because I am a neurotic Cancer who has >> to have all her ducks in a row before she does anything. We got there 20 >> minutes early and thought we would be having a private screening, but we >> soon found out that it was sold out. We were surrounded by lots of Jewish >> red-diaper babies (God, I felt so at home), and the women all looked more >> worse (worser?) for the wear than I do (they were also a bit older - I'm >> somewhat young for the Phil Ochs crowd, though I am an ancient feg). The >> woman in front of me asked me if I was a Phil Ochs fan; all I could say was >> "yes". If I had started to talk about it, I would have started blithering >> and then blubbering. I brought lots of tissues. >> >> This is an excellent documentary about a somewhat extraordinary and sad >> life. If you don't know any Phil Ochs music, get "In Concert" from >> somewhere. He was a wonderful lyricist, his melodies transported me, and he >> had a compelling voice. Of course, it helps if your politics are left of >> center and you think that Richard Nixon was the devil incarnate. >> >> So why the message subject? Well, when I was a kid, you had to make some >> decisions: the Monkees or the Beatles, Bob Dylan or Phil Ochs. Dylan and >> Ochs were "friends", but since Dylan tended to treat people like shit (there >> is a famous, though possibly apocryphal, story of Bobby D's throwing Phil >> out of a car), and because I was pure politics as a teenager, Phil Ochs was >> my luminary, and Dylan was a fake. >> >> Regardless of how you feel about Dylan, Phil Ochs, Vietnam, or Richard >> Nixon, this documentary is worth seeing. It's playing at all sorts of >> festivals, and you can check out dates here: >> >> http://firstrunfeatures.com/philochs_playdates.html >> >> If one person from our merry band checks this out, I'll be happy. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V19 #31 *******************************