From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V19 #14 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, February 8 2011 Volume 19 : Number 014 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: 100%RH content! [Rex Broome ] Re: 100%RH content! [2fs ] Re: 100%RH content! [2fs ] Re: 100%RH content! [Rex Broome ] Re: 100%RH content! [vivien lyon ] Re: 100%RH content! [lep ] Re: 100%RH content! [Rex Broome ] Re: 100%RH content! [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] Re: 100%RH content! [Jeremy Osner ] Re: 100%RH content! [Jeremy Osner ] Re: 100%RH content! [Rex Broome ] Re: 100%RH content! [2fs ] Re: 100%RH content! [2fs ] Re: 100%RH content! [Rex Broome ] NICK DRAKE TRIBUTE - ROME 2010 (some RH) [m swedene ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 20:06:42 -0800 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: 100%RH content! On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 8:01 PM, wrote: > Just noticed something odd about RH's song "The leopard" - the fade in and > fade out are identical, so it's like a slice of a larger song or something > circular that retuirns to its start. There are probably tons of songs like > that, but for the life of me I'm having trouble thinking of many... > I'm thinking "Cities" by Talking Heads... making its second appearance in a random thread in a week or so. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 22:17:39 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: 100%RH content! On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 10:01 PM, wrote: > Just noticed something odd about RH's song "The leopard" - the fade in and > fade out are identical, so it's like a slice of a larger song or something > circular that retuirns to its start. There are probably tons of songs like > that, but for the life of me I'm having trouble thinking of many... > Two entire albums I can think of - both by Pink Floyd: *Animals*, and *The Wall*. And also, *Finnegans Wake*. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 22:18:38 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: 100%RH content! On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Rex Broome wrote: > On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 8:01 PM, wrote: > > > Just noticed something odd about RH's song "The leopard" - the fade in > and > > fade out are identical, so it's like a slice of a larger song or > something > > circular that retuirns to its start. There are probably tons of songs > like > > that, but for the life of me I'm having trouble thinking of many... > > > > I'm thinking "Cities" by Talking Heads... making its second appearance in a > random thread in a week or so. > kindasorta related...and also Rex-related, indirectly: < http://soundcloud.com/spanghew/someone-should-have-done-this> - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 21:05:57 -0800 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: 100%RH content! On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 8:18 PM, 2fs wrote: > random thread in a week or so. > > > > kindasorta related...and also Rex-related, indirectly: < > http://soundcloud.com/spanghew/someone-should-have-done-this> > Nice, far more intuitive than my use of "Up On Cripple Creek" vs. "Cars with the Boom". Of course you could've gone on to add "This ain't no Pizza Hut! This ain't no Taco Bell! This ain't no Combination Pizza Hut and Taco Bell"!" - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 21:10:55 -0800 From: vivien lyon Subject: Re: 100%RH content! On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 8:17 PM, 2fs wrote: > > And also, *Finnegans Wake*. > > I was totally going to say that, but you stole my thunder. Damn you. PS- Quail is sourced (by his real name, natch) in the Wikipedia article on Finnegan's Wake. I know this, not because I was lazily getting the internet version of Cliff Notes while struggling to comprehend Joyce's masterwork, but because I found a reference to the book in a naff old science fiction book I was re-reading and thought I should second-hand learn myself some culture. I am far too lazy to even attempt F.W. myself. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 00:29:43 -0500 From: lep Subject: Re: 100%RH content! james says: > Just noticed something odd about RH's song "The leopard" - the fade in and > fade out are identical, so it's like a slice of a larger song or something > circular that retuirns to its start. There are probably tons of songs like > that, but for the life of me I'm having trouble thinking of many... "sometimes a blonde" reminds me of a whole bunch (that's *a lot*) of "the leopard." describing music isn't my forte, but ISTR feeling like both the songs had a very meandering structure to them -- that they both a lovely formlessness to them. xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 22:31:12 -0800 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: 100%RH content! On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 9:29 PM, lep wrote: > james says: > > Just noticed something odd about RH's song "The leopard" - the fade in > and > > fade out are identical, so it's like a slice of a larger song or > something > > circular that retuirns to its start. There are probably tons of songs > like > > that, but for the life of me I'm having trouble thinking of many... > > "sometimes a blonde" reminds me of a whole bunch (that's *a lot*) of > "the leopard." describing music isn't my forte, but ISTR feeling like > both the songs had a very meandering structure to them -- that they > both a lovely formlessness to them. > Also, while I don't have a guitar close to me-- okay, that's a lie; that's always a lie, but I really feel awful and a bit immobilized and insanely cranky right now-- I'm pretty sure they're both based on Robyn's beloved moving-a-E-form-barre-chord-all-over-the-neck-with-the-high-E-and-B-strings-open-usually-the-F#-position compositional strategy. Maybe not, but the chords are definitely similar voicings. In fact, "SaB" sounds like "The Leopard" and "August Hair" being played at the same time, along with a Nick Drake instrumental whose title escapes me at this moment. Christ my stomach hurts. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 00:43:30 +1300 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: 100%RH content! >On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 8:01 PM, ><grutness@slingshot.co.nz> wrote: > >Just noticed something odd about RH's song "The leopard" - the fade >in and fade out are identical, so it's like a slice of a larger song >or something circular that retuirns to its start. There are probably >tons of songs like that, but for the life of me I'm having trouble >thinking of many... > > >I'm thinking "Cities" by Talking Heads... making its second >appearance in a random thread in a week or so. Possibly (haven't got my music handy at the moment, so I can't check). The only Talking Heads song I could think of which might do this is "The overload". James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 07:04:47 -0500 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: 100%RH content! 2011/2/6 2fs : > Two entire albums I can think of - both by Pink Floyd: *Animals*, and *The > Wall*. Not to mention "Rust Never Sleeps" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 07:08:01 -0500 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: 100%RH content! 2011/2/7 Rex Broome : > Robyn's beloved > moving-a-E-form-barre-chord-all-over-the-neck-with-the-high-E-and-B-strings-open-usually-the-F#-position > compositional strategy. Wait, but, how do you keep the bottom string open, if'n you're fingering a barre? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 06:42:53 -0800 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: 100%RH content! On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 4:08 AM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > 2011/2/7 Rex Broome : > > Robyn's beloved > > > moving-a-E-form-barre-chord-all-over-the-neck-with-the-high-E-and-B-strings-open-usually-the-F#-position > > compositional strategy. > > Wait, but, how do you keep the bottom string open, if'n you're > fingering a barre? > Sorry, top strings; for some reason after twenty years I still say that wrong. Basically the "Robyn F#" (cf. "Lysander", "DeChirico Street" et. al.) is like 2443OO; the similar B and A in "Chinese Bones" and others are 7998OO and 5776OO respectively. These will get deployed in combo with a variant on the A-form barre which circles around the Giant E Power Chord on the 7th fret: X799OO and so forth, as in "Cynthia Mask" and bunch of others... - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 09:53:46 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: 100%RH content! On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Rex Broome wrote: > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 4:08 AM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > > > 2011/2/7 Rex Broome : > > > Robyn's beloved > > > > > > moving-a-E-form-barre-chord-all-over-the-neck-with-the-high-E-and-B-strings-open-usually-the-F#-position > > > compositional strategy. > > > > Wait, but, how do you keep the bottom string open, if'n you're > > fingering a barre? > > > > Sorry, top strings; for some reason after twenty years I still say that > wrong. I say it wrong because I think in terms of pitch vs. physical position. Either that, or I'm really Jimi Hendrix, playing upside down. > Basically the "Robyn F#" (cf. "Lysander", "DeChirico Street" et. > al.) is like 2443OO; the similar B and A in "Chinese Bones" and others are > 7998OO and 5776OO respectively. These will get deployed in combo with a > variant on the A-form barre which circles around the Giant E Power Chord on > the 7th fret: X799OO and so forth, as in "Cynthia Mask" and bunch of > others... > Interestingly, although I'm very familiar w/those sorts of chords and use them myself quite a bit (there's a really pungent variation which involves using C-shaped fretting two frets up to form a D that incorporates the open G and E strings...so you've got, low-to-high pitch, D-F#-G-D-E), I hadn't for some reason thought of them particularly in association w/Robyn. Probably because, oddly enough, I've rarely tried to figure out Robyn's guitar parts, w/a few exceptions (riffs to "Only You" and "Kingdom of Love")... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 09:56:27 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: 100%RH content! On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Rex Broome wrote: > > > On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 8:18 PM, 2fs wrote: > >> random thread in a week or so. >> > >> >> kindasorta related...and also Rex-related, indirectly: < >> http://soundcloud.com/spanghew/someone-should-have-done-this> >> > > Nice, far more intuitive than my use of "Up On Cripple Creek" vs. "Cars > with the Boom". > "Intuitive" is just another way of saying "obvious" - actually, using "Up on Cripple Creek" in hip-hop -like tracks is pretty genius: them's some funky riffs. > Of course you could've gone on to add "This ain't no Pizza Hut! This > ain't no Taco Bell! This ain't no Combination Pizza Hut and Taco Bell"!" > As I said to another friend, this is less a mashup than a mashup note: too lazy to try to work it full-on. Tempos are surprisingly close, since I *felt* as if the Das Racist track was much slower (matter of feel, I guess). Also: peanut butter taco pizza. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 09:06:58 -0800 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: 100%RH content! On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 7:56 AM, 2fs wrote: > > > > > "Intuitive" is just another way of saying "obvious" - actually, using "Up > on > Cripple Creek" in hip-hop -like tracks is pretty genius: them's some funky > riffs. > As I mentioned in the writeup, I was sure someone had done it before, and I just looked it up... http://www.whosampled.com/sample/view/27498/Gang%20Starr-Beyond%20Comprehension_The%20Band-Up%20on%20Cripple%20Creek/ It's pretty kickass and I probably heard it around the time it first came out, although I don't recall it and I've never owned it. The same site lists the Beastie Boys' "High Plains Drifter" as having sampled it as well, and that sounded wrong to me... and it turns out that the "sample" is just a lyrical lift near the end of the track. Anyhows, it's hard to imagine that, if nothing else, that killer fill out of the chorus and back into the verse hasn't gotten more play. > > As I said to another friend, this is less a mashup than a mashup note: Now there's a phrase that was just awaiting coinage. Well done. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 16:08:11 -0500 From: m swedene Subject: NICK DRAKE TRIBUTE - ROME 2010 (some RH) http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=698 *VARIOUS Way To Blue: Nick Drake Tribute 2010 [no label, 2CD]* *Live at the Auditorium, Rome; October 12, 2010. Very good audience recording.* Nick Drake wrote meditative, sombre pieces that made him the darling of those who want music for their quiet time. Or, as Richard Thompson put it, Drake was a romantically helpless figure. This is what the wikipedia posted: *Drake signed to Island Records when he was 20 years old and released his debut album, Five Leaves Left, in 1969. By 1972, he had recorded two more albums - Bryter Layter and Pink Moon. None of the albums sold more than 5,000 copies on their initial release. His reluctance to perform live or be interviewed further contributed to his lack of commercial success.* *Despite this, he was able to gather a loyal group of fans who would champion his music. One such person was his manager, Joe Boyd, who had a clause put into his own contract with Island Records that ensured Drakes records would never go out of print.* *Drake suffered from depression and insomnia throughout his life, and these topics were often reflected in his lyrics. Upon completion of his third album, 1972s Pink Moon, he withdrew from both live performance and recording, retreating to his parents home in rural Warwickshire. On 25 November 1974, Drake died from an overdose of amitriptyline, a prescribed antidepressant; he was 26 years old.* The Way To Blue series of Nick Drake tribute shows was produced by Joe Boyd. Thanks to svizzari for taping and sharing the tracks on Dime. Thanks also to dogegio for the artwork. svizzari noted: Joe Boyd in person hosted it, commented every now and then and made the whole thing unique. Interesting approach of him to localize the event by involving a few Italian artists, among them Roberto Angelini who was actually called to play with Robert Kirby several times and Violante Placido, daughter of the Italian actor/director Michele The string section also apparently comes from Bari, probably with the same esprit to put Italians to work on Nick Drakes masterpieces. And for those who are not familiar with the music of Nick Drake, it is still not too late. Click on the highlighted tracks to download the MP3s (these are high quality MP3s - sample rate of *224 kbps*). As far as we can ascertain, these tracks have never been officially released on CD. *Due to the size of some of the files, please be very patient when downloading the tracks. It could be that the server was very busy. Please try again later. Kindly email us atmybigo@bigozine.com if you encounter persistent problems downloading the files.* Disc 1 Track 101 . Joey / Instr / Strings *(9.9MB)* Track 102 . Cello Song / Roberto / Cello *(8.0MB)* Track 103 . Parasite / Robyn *(10.4MB)* Track 104 . Fruit Tree / Green / Strings *(8.4MB)* Track 105 . Joe Boyd / Roberto Talk *(7.7MB)* Track 106 . Place To Be / Scott *(7.2MB)* Track 107 . Which Will / Vashti / Accordion / Strings *(6.6MB)* Track 108 . Made To Love Magic / Violante / Strings *(8.0MB)* Track 109 . Black Eyed Dog / Roberto + Violante *(8.6MB)* Track 110 . Northern Sky / Neill / Strings *(8.7MB)* Track 111 . Time Has Told Me / Krystle *(8.5MB)* Track 112 . One Of These Things First / Zoe + Danny *(10.7MB)* Track 113 . Poor Boy / Teddy + BVS *(15.3MB - visit the html page to download the track)* Track 113 . Poor Boy *(megaupload alternative link)* Disc 2 Track 201 . Way To Blue / Teddy + Green + Krystle / Strings *(8.2MB)* Track 202 . Joe Boyd / Translator *(4.9MB)* Track 203 . I Remember / Vashti / Accordion / Violin I *(7.3MB)* Track 204 . From The Morning / Scott Solo + Violin I *(8.2MB)* Track 205 . Free Ride / Robyn + Green *(6.1MB)* Track 206 . Clothes Of Sand / Green / Violin I + Viola I *(6.8MB)* Track 207 . At The Chime Of A City Clock / Violante / Strings *(8.4MB)* Track 208 . Hanging On A Star / Krystle a cappella *(5.9MB)* Track 209 . River Man / Teddy / Strings *(9.5MB)* Track 210 . 3 Hours / Roberto *(11.5MB)* Track 211 . Day Is Done / Scott / Strings *(5.0MB)* Track 212 . Pink Moon / Teddy + Kyrstle / Strings *(12.1MB)* Encore Track 213 . I Saw Nick Drake / Robyn Solo *(6.5MB)* Track 214. Voice From The Mountain / Tutti / Strings *(11.8MB)* Click here if you reside in North America Click here if you reside outside North America Lineup: Vashti Bunyan, Green Gartside (Scritti Politti), Robyn Hitchcock, Scott Matthews, Teddy Thompson, Roberto Angelini, Violante Placido - vocals Joe Boyd - producer Kate St. John - director, sax, accordion Danny Thompson - bass Neill MacColl - guitars Leo Abrahams - guitars, effects Zoe Rahman - piano Martyn Barker - drums Oli Langford - violin I ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V19 #14 *******************************