From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V18 #214 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Sunday, December 5 2010 Volume 18 : Number 214 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Face of Death [Caroline Smith ] fewer degrees of separaation [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] The Electric Arguments [Luther Wills-Dudich ] Re: The Electric Arguments [2fs ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 14:07:56 -0500 From: Caroline Smith Subject: Re: Face of Death Oh, I always thought "Kingdom of Love" had a more romantic origin, but this'll do. Really interesting reading. Thanks! On 2010-12-03, at 7:48 PM, Tom Clark wrote: > http://news.qthemusic.com/2010/11/robyn_hitchcock_-_no_schoolboy.html > > -tc ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 14:07:38 +1300 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: fewer degrees of separaation Suddenly realised how small number of degrees of separation between me and RH is - 4. I'd not realised that Straitjacket Fits' third album was produced by Paul Fox. So in "I've played music with someone who..." it's me -> Jan Hellriegel-> Shayne Carter-> Paul Fox-> RH. Mind you, I can get there through Martin Phillipps and XTC, too, or Jan->Don McGlashan->Neil Finn->RH. Scary, really... Wonder if I can find a three-link way... James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 21:31:33 -0800 (PST) From: Luther Wills-Dudich Subject: The Electric Arguments Ok, I missed this discussion on here when it came out. The Sir Macca/ Youth album as "The Fireman" called "The Electric Arguments" - Is it really worth getting? Does Youth light the fire under his ass that Lennon (and later, that Declan guy) did to make him great? Or is he still singing Silly Love Songs? - -LWWD ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 14:16:11 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: The Electric Arguments On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Luther Wills-Dudich wrote: > Ok, I missed this discussion on here when it came out. The Sir Macca/ Youth > album as "The Fireman" called "The Electric Arguments" - Is it really worth > getting? Does Youth light the fire under his ass that Lennon (and later, > that > Declan guy) did to make him great? > In order: yes, somewhat (although I'm not so sure Mr. Costello did much fire-lighting). It's a good album. But I thought his previous album, *Memory Almost Full*, was better...and his previous collabs w/Youth under "The Fireman" were (1) the same thing for 40 minutes and (2) moderately interesting but ultimately not worth much. So my take is that insofar as the record's good, it's because McCartney's engaged with his music. (I think the whole "silly love songs" bit - and in fact, the brouhaha over that very song - is grossly overstated and misses a lot of what made his '70s music interesting and worthwhile. There's this tendency to ascribe greater depth to Lennon's lyrics than sometimes was justified - I mean, the man actually *said* "I Am the Walrus" was intentionally absurd and meaningles just to get up people's tailpipes, not that we should always trust what artists say about their own work - and to ignore depth in McCartney's. They didn't go about statement-making in the same way, at all...but for example: it may sound saccharine on the surface, but name a '60s song that looks with more emotional engagement and sympathy at both sides of the parent/child divide during that era than "She's Leaving Home." (True, Lennon's counterpoint adds just the right measure of cynicism.) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V18 #214 ********************************