From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V18 #207 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, November 13 2010 Volume 18 : Number 207 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Speaking of music list'nin [Jeremy Osner ] Re: Speaking of music list'nin [Rex Broome ] Re: Speaking of music list'nin [Jeremy Osner ] Re: Speaking of music list'nin [2fs ] dmbass question [2fs ] Re: dmbass question [2fs ] RE: dmbass question ["Brian Huddell" ] RE: dmbass question ["Brian Huddell" ] Re: dmbass question [Tom Clark ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V18 #206 [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] Re: dmbass question ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V18 #206 [kevin studyvin ] Re: dmbass question [Steve Schiavo ] Robyn Sings Bowie--9 PM CST tonight [David Witzany ] Re: dmbass question [2fs ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 21:49:17 -0500 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: Speaking of music list'nin > Shuffle is more work than it's worth when you're doing it with LPs, Isn't this by definition what a disk jockey does? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 19:30:16 -0800 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: Speaking of music list'nin When rolling iTunes through my computer, I probably use shuffle more than any other method other than individually looking up the specific song I want to hear (and that's far and away the most frequent use I put my crappy computer speakers to, since these days I do so much in the way of music projects that I use my library for reference and auditioning more than anything else). My real primary venue for music listening is driving around in the car, and that's usually CDRs of proper albums. Occasionally I burn off a series of CDRs of selected tracks from my "inbox" and cycle through those. While that isn't the same as listening to proper LPs, it's certainly not "random" either... more like catching up with recent events. I'm pretty sure Jeff does something simmler. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 22:36:40 -0500 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: Speaking of music list'nin A current shuffle playlist, what I'm listening to as we write, Steve Earle -- "Marie" Robyn Hitchcock et alia -- "Do not fear the dark" by John Wesley Harding Steve Earle -- "Outlaw's Honeymoon" Grateful Dead -- "New Minglewood Blues" Indian Creek Delta Boys -- "Going to London" Circulatory System -- "I You We" Robyn Hitchcock and the Egyptians -- "Beautiful Queen" Robyn Hitchcock -- "Sometimes a Blonde" The Soft Boys -- "Salamander" Bob Dylan -- "The Death of Emmet Till" Dave Van Ronk -- "Wandering" Robyn Hitchcock -- "Lovely Golden Villains" Minus 5 -- "John Barleycorn Must Live" Milton Brown and his Brownies -- "Copenhagen" Fletcher Henderson and his Orchestra -- "King Porter Stomp" On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Rex Broome wrote: > When rolling iTunes through my computer, I probably use shuffle more than > any other method other than individually looking up the specific song I want > to hear (and that's far and away the most frequent use I put my crappy > computer speakers to, since these days I do so much in the way of music > projects that I use my library for reference and auditioning more than > anything else). > > My real primary venue for music listening is driving around in the car, and > that's usually CDRs of proper albums. Occasionally I burn off a series of > CDRs of selected tracks from my "inbox" and cycle through those. While that > isn't the same as listening to proper LPs, it's certainly not "random" > either... more like catching up with recent events. I'm pretty sure Jeff > does something simmler. > > -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 21:58:42 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Speaking of music list'nin On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 9:30 PM, Rex Broome wrote: > While that > isn't the same as listening to proper LPs, it's certainly not "random" > either... more like catching up with recent events. I'm pretty sure Jeff > does something simmler. > > As part of my ongoing efforts to bore everyone well past the point of tears, here's what happens with my new (non-physical media) music: It shows up on my computer - either via my inbox (where I'm still on several publicists' lists from my years-ago reviewing gig, or because they think my blog actually reviews new music) or mp3 websites, or occasionally legal, paid-for downloads (notably, my once-monthly eMusic thingy). Non-album tracks end up being sorted into collections of 20, put into a folder (it's an ongoing series called "Mop" - I'm currently on Mop 635). LPs and like material (say: a website with 15 tracks by the same artist or something) are construed as "albums" and have their own folders. The folders are themselves put in a folder; when there's a CD-R's worth, they're burned to CD-R. These make up my car listening. I burn about one of these CD-Rs per week. All of that stuff also gets entered into iTunes (for what it's worth, the way my database program collates material is different from the way I prefer things to look in iTunes...so I end up altering tags twice: once for iTunes, and once again for the database. That way, I have minimal editing of the material in the database to bring it in line w/the way it appears in iTunes: a quirk of the way the db program reads metadata). New CDs also get entered into iTunes. Typically, new stuff gets listened to once in the car/on the CD player and then a second time in iTunes (also makes sure the physical media works properly). After that, stuff gets listened to when I want to hear it. Some absurd proportion of my iTunes library (which is my entire collection, barring most classical and a few things that I don't feel the need to listen to but don't want to get rid of) has zero plays - older stuff, etc. Okay, so that's my sad tale of music addiction. It took me a *long time* to get all this shit ripped and database'd, but it's easy to maintain as I go along ... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 00:09:41 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: dmbass question Okay, so I'm downloading a torrent of a DVD that's not available at Netflix. I actually haven't done this before - specifically, I haven't burned the downloaded material to DVD. Is there anything special I need to do to make it workable? Other than the eye of newt thing, of course - I know that much at least. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 01:05:08 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: dmbass question On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 12:53 AM, Brian Huddell wrote: > Can't answer definitively until we know what the format is. ISO? A > video_ts > folder full of vobs? If it's a Windows PC you may need a copy of DVD > Decrypter http://www.dvddecrypter.org.uk/ > > If it's a Mac, you'll need someone superior to me to provide the answer. > Actually (same thing twice) one is an ISO, the other is a video_ts folder full of vobs. (When I started the one, there were no seeds...so I started the other. Now it looks like both will be done - one within an hour, the other by morning.) But yes, I'm on a Mac - so we must summon the superior gods. > +b > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf > Of 2fs > Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 12:10 AM > To: Coughing Vikings > Subject: dmbass question > > Okay, so I'm downloading a torrent of a DVD that's not available at > Netflix. > I actually haven't done this before - specifically, I haven't burned the > downloaded material to DVD. Is there anything special I need to do to make > it workable? > > Other than the eye of newt thing, of course - I know that much at least. > > -- > ...Jeff Norman > > The Architectural Dance Society > http://spanghew.wordpress.com > > - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 01:15:02 -0600 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: dmbass question I'm pretty sure on a Mac you just wave your hand over it and smile serenely. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of 2fs Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 1:05 AM To: Coughing Vikings Subject: Re: dmbass question On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 12:53 AM, Brian Huddell wrote: > Can't answer definitively until we know what the format is. ISO? A > video_ts folder full of vobs? If it's a Windows PC you may need a > copy of DVD Decrypter http://www.dvddecrypter.org.uk/ > > If it's a Mac, you'll need someone superior to me to provide the answer. > Actually (same thing twice) one is an ISO, the other is a video_ts folder full of vobs. (When I started the one, there were no seeds...so I started the other. Now it looks like both will be done - one within an hour, the other by morning.) But yes, I'm on a Mac - so we must summon the superior gods. > +b > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On > Behalf Of 2fs > Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 12:10 AM > To: Coughing Vikings > Subject: dmbass question > > Okay, so I'm downloading a torrent of a DVD that's not available at > Netflix. > I actually haven't done this before - specifically, I haven't burned > the downloaded material to DVD. Is there anything special I need to do > to make it workable? > > Other than the eye of newt thing, of course - I know that much at least. > > -- > ...Jeff Norman > > The Architectural Dance Society > http://spanghew.wordpress.com > > - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 00:53:57 -0600 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: dmbass question Can't answer definitively until we know what the format is. ISO? A video_ts folder full of vobs? If it's a Windows PC you may need a copy of DVD Decrypter http://www.dvddecrypter.org.uk/ If it's a Mac, you'll need someone superior to me to provide the answer. +b - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of 2fs Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 12:10 AM To: Coughing Vikings Subject: dmbass question Okay, so I'm downloading a torrent of a DVD that's not available at Netflix. I actually haven't done this before - specifically, I haven't burned the downloaded material to DVD. Is there anything special I need to do to make it workable? Other than the eye of newt thing, of course - I know that much at least. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 00:17:23 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: dmbass question On Nov 12, 2010, at 11:05 PM, 2fs wrote: > On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 12:53 AM, Brian Huddell wrote: > >> Can't answer definitively until we know what the format is. ISO? A >> video_ts >> folder full of vobs? If it's a Windows PC you may need a copy of DVD >> Decrypter http://www.dvddecrypter.org.uk/ >> >> If it's a Mac, you'll need someone superior to me to provide the answer. >> > > Actually (same thing twice) one is an ISO, the other is a video_ts folder > full of vobs. (When I started the one, there were no seeds...so I started > the other. Now it looks like both will be done - one within an hour, the > other by morning.) > > But yes, I'm on a Mac - so we must summon the superior gods. > DVD Player will play the VIDEO_TS (File>Open DVD Media). In order to burn it to a standard DVD you'll need something like Roxio Toast. There are cheaper programs to do it but I can't recall what they're called right now. - -tc, lesser god ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 00:00:18 +1300 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V18 #206 Someone scrussed: >Basically, never. As a former colleague said, who'd experienced my music >share, "Shuffling Stewart's music causes mental illness." Hey - there are other fans of Shuffling Stewart out there? His music was the best! I became a fan when he put out his third album "Trinoculars", with its astonishing grunge/kletzmer/mariachi crossover sound and that unforgettable droning final track "Take me back to the land of the capybara", and it was only later I discovered the two earlier albums which really made his name - "Stretchy limo" and "Out near the docks at four o'clock in the morning". Sadly, his fourth album, "Groping for a missing widget" was a disappointment, but in retrospect it's quite clear that this was because of his descent into the addiction which laid him low for several years. I defy anyone to make good music while playing Tetris 15 hours a day. His comeback album, "Plasticene calliope", was a slight return to form but was sadly to be his last, owing to the freak accident involving a wok and motorised skateboard which took him from us, too soon, in 2008. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 10:21:57 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: dmbass question On 10-11-13 02:05 , 2fs wrote: > > But yes, I'm on a Mac - so we must summon the superior gods. Do you really need it back on DVD? Burning DVDs in a pain. Converting it into something much more portable with HandBrake - http://handbrake.fr/ - - takes about the same time, and has far less farting about. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 11:02:43 -0800 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V18 #206 ...and this is just one of the things to love about Fegland. On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 3:00 AM, wrote: > Someone scrussed: > >> Basically, never. As a former colleague said, who'd experienced my music >> share, "Shuffling Stewart's music causes mental illness." >> > > Hey - there are other fans of Shuffling Stewart out there? His music was > the best! I became a fan when he put out his third album "Trinoculars", with > its astonishing grunge/kletzmer/mariachi crossover sound and that > unforgettable droning final track "Take me back to the land of the > capybara", and it was only later I discovered the two earlier albums which > really made his name - "Stretchy limo" and "Out near the docks at four > o'clock in the morning". Sadly, his fourth album, "Groping for a missing > widget" was a disappointment, but in retrospect it's quite clear that this > was because of his descent into the addiction which laid him low for several > years. I defy anyone to make good music while playing Tetris 15 hours a day. > His comeback album, "Plasticene calliope", was a slight return to form but > was sadly to be his last, owing to the freak accident involving a wok and > motorised skateboard which took him from us, too soon, in 2008. > > James > -- > James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand > -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- > =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. > -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- > .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 12:14:02 -0600 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Re: dmbass question On Nov 13, 2010, at 12:09 AM, 2fs wrote: > Okay, so I'm downloading a torrent of a DVD that's not available at > Netflix. > I actually haven't done this before - specifically, I haven't burned > the > downloaded material to DVD. Is there anything special I need to do > to make > it workable? This is no longer in development, but it should work. Lots of the free video converter apps will burn DVD and other formats. Just search for "video converter mac." I think the free apps are mostly front ends for open source tools, so look for a GUI that you like. - - Steve __________ I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl with a scythe. - John ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 17:49:22 -0600 (CST) From: David Witzany Subject: Robyn Sings Bowie--9 PM CST tonight Hey all, I'm doing every show here at WEFT from now until midnight; thought I'd mention that from 9 PM until the concert's over, I'm spinning the entirety of the 10-31 Clerkenwell "Hunky Dory" show. If you don't have a copy of it, you can at least hear it at our website, weft.org. You're welcome to tune into the rest of the shows I get to do tonight as well--country music until 8, and Lord knows what mischief I'll get up to after Robyn's show is done. Dave. David Witzany ...one of nature's witzany@uiuc.edu bounds checkers ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 22:31:48 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: dmbass question Thanks, all. I indeed ended up downloading that Handbrake thingy, since really all I wanted was to be able to extract the sound anyway... On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 12:09 AM, 2fs wrote: > Okay, so I'm downloading a torrent of a DVD that's not available at > Netflix. I actually haven't done this before - specifically, I haven't > burned the downloaded material to DVD. Is there anything special I need to > do to make it workable? > > Other than the eye of newt thing, of course - I know that much at least. > > -- > ...Jeff Norman > > The Architectural Dance Society > http://spanghew.wordpress.com > - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V18 #207 ********************************