From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V18 #156 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, August 14 2010 Volume 18 : Number 156 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Record Club #5 and #6 - Rex then Nuppy (or vice versa) [lep ] tech query Mac [2fs ] Re:tapes and whatnot [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] Re: tapes and whatnot [2fs ] Re: tapes and whatnot [ross ] Re: Record Club #5 and #6 - Rex then Nuppy (or vice versa) [Sebastian Hag] Fwd: tapes and whatnot [michaeljbachman@comcast.net] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 03:17:40 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: Record Club #5 and #6 - Rex then Nuppy (or vice versa) Bri N says: > 1982 > The Monochrome Set > "Eligible Bachelors" Oh, nice pick. I love this band. I have a cassette a friend made for me that I still play fairly often -- one side was "Love Zombies" and the other side was either an album called "The Monochrome Set" or she didn't know the album title. So I'm not sure if I've heard this particular album, but, regardless, I'm looking forward to listening to it. xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 08:52:00 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: RH + ISB Robyn wrote the liner notes for the new Incredible String Band reissue CDs. Haven't heard/seen/read them yet, but they're getting good reviews (from magazines which write about expensive stereo equipment that only old, rich, deaf white guys can afford). ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 16:48:01 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: tech query Mac My MacBook's cursor occasionally takes an unwanted vacation on me, and so far the only way I know to get it to return is to restart. It *seems* to happen most when I'm trying to do things quickly, but that's not invariable. (This is all trackpad, btw) Most recent OS, etc. Any ideas? - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 11:48:58 +1200 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re:tapes and whatnot > >It's a curious set of facts that (1) most performing musicians I've known > >have rather rinky-dink stereos, and (2) most audiophiles I've known or > >heard of have abysmal musical taste. I mean (re #2), sure, Pink Floyd's > >_The Final Cut_ might present breathtakingly realistic recordings > > capturing all the audio excitement involving air molecules navigating the > >several square inches deep inside Roger Water's mouth, but everything is > > taken at a molasses tempo and seems designed to win a contest involving > >"how boring and uninteresting a song can you write around your father > >having died in a war?" >I agree wholeheartedly on everything you wrote (as I ususally seem to do), >but I like "The Final Cut" better than you do. It's not a record I listen >to very often, but when I do, or when a song pops up in shuffle mode - as >it did just last week - I enjoy it. Maybe the secret is not to take it as >seriously as Roger Waters did :) I agree - it's a whiny, slow-as-death album, but there are a few tracks on it worth a listen. I love the segue between voice and saxophone of "The gunner's dream" and the use of octave-higher backing vocals on "Southampton dock". But it's an album that I rarely play. That's hardly the point with it, though. IKt probably is an album that was designed more as therapy than as high-rotation. Like Lennon's "Well well well", it's hardly designed for radio play, but is more psychological self-help. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 20:28:13 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: tapes and whatnot On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 6:48 PM, wrote: > >It's a curious set of facts that (1) most performing musicians I've known >> >have rather rinky-dink stereos, and (2) most audiophiles I've known or >> >heard of have abysmal musical taste. I mean (re #2), sure, Pink Floyd's >> >_The Final Cut_ might present breathtakingly realistic recordings >> > capturing all the audio excitement involving air molecules navigating >> the >> >several square inches deep inside Roger Water's mouth, but everything is >> > taken at a molasses tempo and seems designed to win a contest involving >> >"how boring and uninteresting a song can you write around your father >> >having died in a war?" >> > > I agree wholeheartedly on everything you wrote (as I ususally seem to do), >> but I like "The Final Cut" better than you do. It's not a record I listen >> to very often, but when I do, or when a song pops up in shuffle mode - as >> it did just last week - I enjoy it. Maybe the secret is not to take it as >> seriously as Roger Waters did :) >> > > I agree - it's a whiny, slow-as-death album, but there are a few tracks on > it worth a listen. > > That's hardly the point with it, though. IKt probably is an album that was > designed more as therapy than as high-rotation. Like Lennon's "Well well > well", it's hardly designed for radio play, but is more psychological > self-help. > Well, the thing is...if you're going to inflict an album on the world, why not also make it listenable? ;-) Also, it seems slightly disingenuous: while I don't doubt the heartfeltness of Waters' feelings here, viewing the whole album as a form of "therapy" presumes that the 700 overdubs and sonic perfectionism were also part of the therapy...less reliable. And frankly, if Waters needed to these songs primarily as a form of therapy, I'd probably be better able to engage with them that way if they sounded more like the songs on _Nebraska_, say. Or at least "Pigs (Three Different Ones)"... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 22:12:39 -0400 From: ross Subject: Re: tapes and whatnot On 10-08-13 07:48 PM, grutness@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > > > That's hardly the point with it, though. IKt probably is an album that > was designed more as therapy than as high-rotation. Like Lennon's > "Well well well", it's hardly designed for radio play, but is more > psychological self-help. > The problem is not Lennon's album, but what has become of radio. Radio used to be cool enough to play "Well Well Well". ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 08:50:00 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Record Club #5 and #6 - Rex then Nuppy (or vice versa) - -- Bri N is rumored to have mumbled on 12. August 2010 20:54:16 -0700 regarding Re: Record Club #5 and #6 - Rex then Nuppy (or vice versa): > 1982 > The Monochrome Set > "Eligible Bachelors" Yet another band I had previously only heard *of* :) I listened to it yesterday. I liked it well enough, but I think it may be something that you need to have discovered at the time. When I listen to new music, I always try to find connections to music I'm already familiar with. The act this reminded me of the most is the Jazz Butcher, both musically (if only to a degree) and attitude-wise. I saw the Jazz Butcher many, many times and feel a kind of personal bond to the music, but I don't think someone listening to those records now for the first time would be able to get the same out of them. Obviously there are other musicians and records that don't require this sense of familiarity or camaraderie. I'm not sure what that says about either type of artist, but it's clear to me that this difference exists ... Something else: a few of the tracks had very long silence at the end, which I find extremely irritating. Is that intentional? - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 11:55:32 +0000 (UTC) From: michaeljbachman@comcast.net Subject: Fwd: tapes and whatnot - ----- Original Message ----- On 10-08-13 07:48 PM, grutness@slingshot.co.nz wrote: >> >> >>That's hardly the point with it, though. IKt probably is an album that >> was designed more as therapy than as high-rotation. Like Lennon's >>"Well well well", it's hardly designed for radio play, but is more >> psychological self-help. >> Ross came back with: >>The problem is not Lennon's album, but what has become of radio. B Radio >>used to be cool enough to play "Well Well Well". B That is for certain, although there was still a lot of free form FM radio stations back in 1970 where DJ's could play what they felt like, and that included "W ell well well",B as well as B "W orking Class Hero". B It's hard to find decent FM (non-satellite) radio rock station programs these days unless they are on a NPR type college radio station like KCRW in California. Locally WDET (here in southeast Michigan) is not nearly as good as it was twenty years ago when arguably it was as good as KCRW, but it's still got a few decent programs. CBCB Radio 2 from Canada had some great programs in the 1990's, but they are just aB shadow of what they used to be. Michael B. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V18 #156 ********************************