From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V18 #141 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, July 23 2010 Volume 18 : Number 141 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Schism? Schist! [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] Re: Record Club the Third [Sebastian Hagedorn ] The Monks - first impression [Jill Brand ] Re: The Monks - first impression [Jeremy Osner ] Nuggets [Jeremy Osner ] Re: Nuggets [2fs ] Re: Nuggets [Tom Clark ] Re: Nuggets [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Nuggets ["craigie*" ] Re: Nuggets [2fs ] Re: Nuggets [ross ] Re: The Monks - first impression [kevin studyvin ] Re: Nuggets [kevin studyvin ] Re: Nuggets [2fs ] Re: Nuggets [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: oh, how to do ["Stewart C. Russell" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:08:35 +1200 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: Schism? Schist! > >Cool, now if Lauren compiles her list we can have a schism! The >Orthodox Fegs >will get to wear funny hats and hew to Jason's list, the Protestant followers >of Lauren will be allowed to divorce their wives.< > > > >...I'll be the one nailing 95 feces to the wall in protest...oh, wait - never >mind,,, Sounds like a load of Papal bull to me... James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:54:06 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Record Club the Third - --On 21. Juli 2010 20:27:16 -0400 "Stewart C. Russell" wrote: > o fegs, I give ye: > > > > I'm not even going to tell you what it is. > > If your ears aren't bleeding, and neighbours aren't threatening you with > cudgels, you're not playing it loud enough. I just listened to it for the first time on my way to work. At first I wasn't too impressed, but when I read the Wikipedia entry and learned about its background that changed in a hurry. It blows my mind that it was recorded in Cologne! I can't give a song-by-song account yet, but I'll definitely listen to it again. It helps that it's pretty short :) For now I'd say that I agree with Miles in that it's not completely compelling. There were tracks that didn't do much for me. But I'm really not good at judging records after one listen ... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:11:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: oh, how to do Well, Stewart, the defining moment comes at 3:05 with the key change. Breathtaking! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:04:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: The Monks - first impression I'm in the midst of paying large bills online, so I thought I'd offset the pain by listening to Stewart's addition to the album analysis list (for some reason, I was expecting The Music Tapes to pop up). I've listened to about 5 songs so far, and the first thing that comes to mind for me is The Seeds (whose big hit was Pushing Too Hard). My brother used to play their first album non-stop. Some of it reminds me of Sam the Sham and the Pharoahs, too. I don't think I'd run out and buy it, but it is bringing me back to my earliest stages of listening to rock n roll. So Matthew's on Facebook. We could start taking bets on how long it will take me to break down and get a Facebook account. Oh, I so don't want to....... Jill ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:43:32 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: The Monks - first impression There is a "The Monks" playlist on YouTube which includes a bunch of Monks TV appearances leavened with Nuggets-y stuff like The Seeds/13th Floor Elevators/? and the Mysterians. Recommended listening! I don't know how to link to it but if you search YouTube for The Monks and click on one of their TV appearances you ought to see the playlist in the upper right-hand corner of the screen -- turn autoplay on and you'll be all set. J On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Jill Brand wrote: > I'm in the midst of paying large bills online, so I thought I'd offset the > pain by listening to Stewart's addition to the album analysis list (for some > reason, I was expecting The Music Tapes to pop up). I've listened to about > 5 songs so far, and the first thing that comes to mind for me is The Seeds > (whose big hit was Pushing Too Hard). My brother used to play their first > album non-stop. Some of it reminds me of Sam the Sham and the Pharoahs, > too. I don't think I'd run out and buy it, but it is bringing me back to my > earliest stages of listening to rock n roll. > > So Matthew's on Facebook. We could start taking bets on how long it will > take me to break down and get a Facebook account. Oh, I so don't want > to....... > > Jill ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:51:22 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Nuggets (The message I just posted makes me backtrack and say: Of course everybody here is well acquainted with Nuggets right? It seems to me impossible that that would not be the case... If not: Nuggets is a series of compilations of 60's garage rock -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuggets:_Original_Artyfacts_from_the_First_Psychedelic_Era,_1965%E2%80%931968) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:13:59 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Nuggets On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > (The message I just posted makes me backtrack and say: Of course > everybody here is well acquainted with Nuggets right? It seems to me > impossible that that would not be the case... If not: Nuggets is a > series of compilations of 60's garage rock -- > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuggets:_Original_Artyfacts_from_the_First_Psychedelic_Era,_1965%E2%80%931968 > ) > There are other entries in the series - worth checking out as well. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 06:54:31 -1000 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Nuggets The Children of Nuggets set is really good too. Even includes some band called The Soft Boys. - -tc On Jul 23, 2010, at 6:13 AM, 2fs wrote: > On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > >> (The message I just posted makes me backtrack and say: Of course >> everybody here is well acquainted with Nuggets right? It seems to me >> impossible that that would not be the case... If not: Nuggets is a >> series of compilations of 60's garage rock -- >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuggets:_Original_Artyfacts_from_the_First_Psychedelic_Era,_1965%E2%80%931968 >> ) >> > > There are other entries in the series - worth checking out as well. > > -- > ...Jeff Norman > > The Architectural Dance Society > http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:20:57 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Nuggets - -- Jeremy Osner is rumored to have mumbled on 23. Juli 2010 11:51:22 -0400 regarding Nuggets: > (The message I just posted makes me backtrack and say: Of course > everybody here is well acquainted with Nuggets right? It seems to me > impossible that that would not be the case... If not: Nuggets is a > series of compilations of 60's garage rock -- > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuggets:_Original_Artyfacts_from_the_First_P > sychedelic_Era,_1965%E2%80%931968) FWIW, I had never heard of that compilation before. Seems rather obscure to me ... the only band I'm even a little familiar with is "The 13th Floor Elevators". I've heard *of* "The Seeds", but that's it ... I'm sure I'm not the only one. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:27:53 +0100 From: "craigie*" Subject: Re: Nuggets yes, yes you are... sorry and all that, boyo. c* On 23 July 2010 20:20, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > -- Jeremy Osner is rumored to have mumbled on 23. > Juli 2010 11:51:22 -0400 regarding Nuggets: > > > (The message I just posted makes me backtrack and say: Of course >> everybody here is well acquainted with Nuggets right? It seems to me >> impossible that that would not be the case... If not: Nuggets is a >> series of compilations of 60's garage rock -- >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuggets:_Original_Artyfacts_from_the_First_P >> sychedelic_Era,_1965%E2%80%931968) >> > > FWIW, I had never heard of that compilation before. Seems rather obscure to > me ... the only band I'm even a little familiar with is "The 13th Floor > Elevators". I've heard *of* "The Seeds", but that's it ... I'm sure I'm not > the only one. > -- > Sebastian Hagedorn > Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany > http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ > "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock > - -- first things first, but not necessarily in that order... I like my girls to be the same as my records - independent, attractively packaged and in black vinyl (if at all possible)... Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc (the motto of the Addams Family: "We gladly feast on those who would subdue us") ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:56:21 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Nuggets On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Sebastian Hagedorn < Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-koeln.de> wrote: > -- Jeremy Osner is rumored to have mumbled on 23. > Juli 2010 11:51:22 -0400 regarding Nuggets: > > > (The message I just posted makes me backtrack and say: Of course >> everybody here is well acquainted with Nuggets right? It seems to me >> impossible that that would not be the case... If not: Nuggets is a >> series of compilations of 60's garage rock -- >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuggets:_Original_Artyfacts_from_the_First_P >> sychedelic_Era,_1965%E2%80%931968) >> > > FWIW, I had never heard of that compilation before. Seems rather obscure to > me ... the only band I'm even a little familiar with is "The 13th Floor > Elevators". I've heard *of* "The Seeds", but that's it ... I'm sure I'm not > the only one. > Well, considering the collection is dedicated to U.S. garage-rock/psych acts of the '60s - an era when "regional hit" still meant something - that's not too surprising. The second volume (of the new series) covers bands from a whole mess of other countries...not just the usual English-speaking suspects. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 18:46:14 -0400 From: ross Subject: Re: Nuggets You're right: they're pretty much all obscure. That's the point of the compilation -- to shine the spotlight on some overlooked gems. But "Pushin' Too Hard" was pretty popular in my town at the time. On 10-07-23 03:20 PM, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > -- Jeremy Osner is rumored to have mumbled on 23. > Juli 2010 11:51:22 -0400 regarding Nuggets: > >> (The message I just posted makes me backtrack and say: Of course >> everybody here is well acquainted with Nuggets right? It seems to me >> impossible that that would not be the case... If not: Nuggets is a >> series of compilations of 60's garage rock -- >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuggets:_Original_Artyfacts_from_the_First_P >> >> sychedelic_Era,_1965%E2%80%931968) > > FWIW, I had never heard of that compilation before. Seems rather > obscure to me ... the only band I'm even a little familiar with is > "The 13th Floor Elevators". I've heard *of* "The Seeds", but that's it > ... I'm sure I'm not the only one. > -- > Sebastian Hagedorn > Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany > http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ > "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 16:11:24 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: The Monks - first impression On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Jill Brand wrote: > I'm in the midst of paying large bills online, so I thought I'd offset the > pain by listening to Stewart's addition to the album analysis list (for some > reason, I was expecting The Music Tapes to pop up). I've listened to about > 5 songs so far, and the first thing that comes to mind for me is The Seeds > (whose big hit was Pushing Too Hard). My brother used to play their first > album non-stop. Some of it reminds me of Sam the Sham and the Pharoahs, > too. I don't think I'd run out and buy it, but it is bringing me back to my > earliest stages of listening to rock n roll. > > So Matthew's on Facebook. We could start taking bets on how long it will > take me to break down and get a Facebook account. Oh, I so don't want > to....... > > Jill > One of us! One of us! One of us! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 16:20:40 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Nuggets On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 3:46 PM, ross wrote: > You're right: they're pretty much all obscure. That's the point of the > compilation -- to shine the spotlight on some overlooked gems. But > "Pushin' Too Hard" was pretty popular in my town at the time. > > > > > On 10-07-23 03:20 PM, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > >> -- Jeremy Osner is rumored to have mumbled on 23. >> Juli 2010 11:51:22 -0400 regarding Nuggets: >> >> (The message I just posted makes me backtrack and say: Of course >>> everybody here is well acquainted with Nuggets right? It seems to me >>> impossible that that would not be the case... If not: Nuggets is a >>> series of compilations of 60's garage rock -- >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuggets:_Original_Artyfacts_from_the_First_P >>> sychedelic_Era,_1965%E2%80%931968) >>> >> >> FWIW, I had never heard of that compilation before. Seems rather obscure >> to me ... the only band I'm even a little familiar with is "The 13th Floor >> Elevators". I've heard *of* "The Seeds", but that's it ... I'm sure I'm not >> the only one. >> -- >> Sebastian Hagedorn >> Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany >> http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ >> "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock >> > Love the Nuggets. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 18:33:20 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Nuggets On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 5:46 PM, ross wrote: > You're right: they're pretty much all obscure. That's the point of the > compilation -- to shine the spotlight on some overlooked gems. But > "Pushin' Too Hard" was pretty popular in my town at the time. The first Nuggets (which is, I think, the first part of the first disc of the current box set) does have a fair number of "hits" if I recall - at least, they were hits in the US, or at least, the sort of thing that a lot of people heard of. I mean, it had "Wooly Bully," "Louie, Louie," "Time Won't Let Me," "Incense and Peppermints"... But the deeper into the set, and the series, one goes, the more obscure things get. Although there are still some well-known tracks: for example, both the LA and SF Nuggets boxes have a fair number of well-known tracks. > > > > > On 10-07-23 03:20 PM, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > >> -- Jeremy Osner is rumored to have mumbled on 23. >> Juli 2010 11:51:22 -0400 regarding Nuggets: >> >> (The message I just posted makes me backtrack and say: Of course >>> everybody here is well acquainted with Nuggets right? It seems to me >>> impossible that that would not be the case... If not: Nuggets is a >>> series of compilations of 60's garage rock -- >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuggets:_Original_Artyfacts_from_the_First_P >>> sychedelic_Era,_1965%E2%80%931968) >>> >> >> FWIW, I had never heard of that compilation before. Seems rather obscure >> to me ... the only band I'm even a little familiar with is "The 13th Floor >> Elevators". I've heard *of* "The Seeds", but that's it ... I'm sure I'm not >> the only one. >> -- >> Sebastian Hagedorn >> Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany >> http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ >> "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock >> > - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 02:47:12 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Nuggets - -- 2fs is rumored to have mumbled on 23. Juli 2010 18:33:20 -0500 regarding Re: Nuggets: > On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 5:46 PM, ross wrote: > >> You're right: they're pretty much all obscure. That's the point of the >> compilation -- to shine the spotlight on some overlooked gems. But >> "Pushin' Too Hard" was pretty popular in my town at the time. > > > The first Nuggets (which is, I think, the first part of the first disc of > the current box set) does have a fair number of "hits" if I recall - at > least, they were hits in the US, or at least, the sort of thing that a lot > of people heard of. I mean, it had "Wooly Bully," "Louie, Louie," "Time > Won't Let Me," "Incense and Peppermints"... We're talking about different versions. I was referring to the original track list, which has none of these songs. The 1998 reissue is a different matter! - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:14:37 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: oh, how to do On 10-07-23 11:11 , Jill Brand wrote: > Well, Stewart, the defining moment comes at 3:05 with the key change. > Breathtaking! It is nothing short of genius. Mind you, the Monks worked really hard on their sound. Stewart ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V18 #141 ********************************