From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V18 #140 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, July 22 2010 Volume 18 : Number 140 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Holy List of Feg Record Club ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Holy List of Feg Record Club ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Record Club the Third ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Feg Record Club, session 2 [m swedene ] REM done with recording next album (12% RH) [m swedene ] Re: Holy List of Feg Record Club [Michael Sweeney ] Re: Holy List of Feg Record Club [2fs ] Re: Record Club the Third [2fs ] Re: Record Club the Third [Steve Sloto ] Re: Holy List of Feg Record Club [kevin studyvin ] Re: Record Club the Third [lep ] In other musical news ... [FSThomas ] Re: Record Club the Third [Jeremy Osner ] Re: Record Club the Third [Jeremy Osner ] Feg F/B (and SB) update... [Michael Sweeney ] Re: Record Club the Third [Miles Goosens ] The Monks [Jeremy Osner ] Re: The Monks [Jeremy Osner ] Re: Record Club the Third [Jason Brown ] Re: The Monks [Stewart Russell ] Re: The Monks [ross ] Re: The Monks [ross ] Re: The Monks [Stewart Russell ] Re: The Monks [2fs ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 19:50:18 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Holy List of Feg Record Club On 10-07-21 17:17 , 2fs wrote: > > Dibs on "The Scottish Expletives" as band name. I think "Away & Shite" might be better. It could be a Scottish Seals & Crofts cover band. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 19:52:37 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Holy List of Feg Record Club On 10-07-21 17:45 , Miles Goosens wrote: > > I keep thinking the subject line is going to be "Holy Modal List." I'm this close to making my album 1 & 2 by The Holy Modal Rounders, but I won't 'cos Steve Weber knows my home address*. Stewart *: well, he did, once. He's likely forgotten. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:27:16 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Record Club the Third o fegs, I give ye: I'm not even going to tell you what it is. If your ears aren't bleeding, and neighbours aren't threatening you with cudgels, you're not playing it loud enough. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:03:19 -0400 From: m swedene Subject: Re: Feg Record Club, session 2 Los Shakers "Por Favor" Break It All - Apparently this was their first single from 65. It reminded me (time wise) of the Ramones. short duration of the song. The Child and Me - intro reminded me of Ticket to Ride. Oh My Friend - I can really hear their native Uruguayan accents reminds me of a Monkees tune. Candombe - Psychedelic tune at the end of the comp was fun to listen to had a jazzy free vibe to it. Reminded me a bit of Phish, musically. This collection just proves to show the influence that the Beatles had over a majority of the music during this time. The more I read about this album, while listening to it this is a compilation of their debut LP and the next 2(?). It goes for nice coin on the eBay and Amazon. It is clear that they (or their song writers) studied the Beatles and their song writing. Remind me of: Any band that appeared on the Flintstones, The Rutles, Over all a fun listen that I would have never listened to before. Thanks for sharing! Mike ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:10:31 -0400 From: m swedene Subject: REM done with recording next album (12% RH) http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/17386/180871 No real Hitchcock news.... but ..... it is the man who has the cahonas to tell Mr Clark off. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:59:07 -0400 From: ross Subject: Re: Success of the Feg Record Club, or rather lack thereof On 10-07-19 10:40 AM, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > Is it just me or does it seem as though more people are willing to > propose records for the Record Club than there are people who are > actually willing to listen to them? I was a member of a book club for > a while and I remember that half the people usually hadn't read the > book, and sometimes that included myself. But then you could at least > eat and drink together :) > > The reason I'm asking is that I've been thinking about which record to > present when it's my turn, and I guess I would feel pretty > disappointed if only two or three people actually made the effort of > listening to it ... I intend to listen and comment on all of them. My problem has been in following the thread. Before tonight I didn't know there was anything else to hear. I've started listening to Stewart's selection tonight, and will return to Terry's after that. I still might offer something for the club. Help me overcome my paranoia. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 19:18:38 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Holy List of Feg Record Club On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > On 10-07-21 17:45 , Miles Goosens wrote: > > > > I keep thinking the subject line is going to be "Holy Modal List." > > I'm this close to making my album 1 & 2 by The Holy Modal Rounders, but > I won't 'cos Steve Weber knows my home address*. > > Stewart > > *: well, he did, once. He's likely forgotten. > Fascinating effort and well worthwhile, though increasingly confusing. I may be lagging on stuff on account of all the schoolwork but, you know, I'm still in. I did obtain the Smiths from the library but haven't actually listened to it yet. Try to get to that over the weekend. I've never really gotten the Morissey bug though; I always lumped him in with all the rest of the charisma-free baritones the UK was cluttering the musical landscape with back in the 1990s and haven't encountered a reason to change that opinion yet. But we'll see soon enough. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 02:42:09 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: Re: Holy List of Feg Record Club Jeremy Osner wrote: >Cool, now if Lauren compiles her list we can have a schism! The Orthodox Fegs will get to wear funny hats and hew to Jason's list, the Protestant followers of Lauren will be allowed to divorce their wives.< ...I'll be the one nailing 95 feces to the wall in protest...oh, wait - never mind,,, MLS _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID283 26::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 22:47:06 -0400 From: ross Subject: Re: Record Club the Third On 10-07-21 08:27 PM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > o fegs, I give ye: > > > > I'm not even going to tell you what it is. > > If your ears aren't bleeding, and neighbours aren't threatening you with > cudgels, you're not playing it loud enough. > > Stewart > > I've heard only snippets on allmusic before this. You know how Grease re-invented a '50s that didn't happen? This album sounds like somebody who was a bit muddled on pop music history re-invented 1966, but in a good way. I like this, and I wonder how I would have liked it in '66? More later, maybe, but I didn't want to pass up on the chance to be heard first! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 22:57:58 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Holy List of Feg Record Club On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 9:18 PM, kevin studyvin wrote: > > listened to it yet. Try to get to that over the weekend. I've never > really > gotten the Morissey bug though; I always lumped him in with all the rest of > the charisma-free baritones the UK was cluttering the musical landscape > with > back in the 1990s and haven't encountered a reason to change that opinion > yet. > Which is funny - entitled to your opinion and all - considering that "character" and "charisma" come attached to Morrissey's name and lyrics pretty often. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 23:01:05 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Record Club the Third On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 9:47 PM, ross wrote: > On 10-07-21 08:27 PM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > >> o fegs, I give ye: >> >> >> >> >> > > I've heard only snippets on allmusic before this. You know how Grease > re-invented a '50s that didn't happen? This album sounds like somebody who > was a bit muddled on pop music history re-invented 1966, but in a good way. > I like this, and I wonder how I would have liked it in '66? > This one's reputation preceded my hearing it by a number of years (not counting The Fall's cover versions) - but off the top of my head & from memory, two things surprised: it was actually less caveman-noisy than I expected, and on a couple songs, there's actually like a melody going on. Honestly, I was mostly expecting music that put itself over solely on sheer energy and violent neanderthal charm (where "charm" equals "how cute the way that poor drum kit never hurt anyone even though they're abusing it horribly with what sound like enormous wooden clubs"). - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:56:43 -0400 From: Steve Sloto Subject: Re: Record Club the Third I'm new to this mailing list thingy.. I wasn't even sure if it was active when I signed up. But I must say: thank you for sharing this album. It's phenomenal, and I had never heard of it. :) - - Steve On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > o fegs, I give ye: > > > > I'm not even going to tell you what it is. > > If your ears aren't bleeding, and neighbours aren't threatening you with > cudgels, you're not playing it loud enough. > > Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 22:31:01 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Holy List of Feg Record Club On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 8:57 PM, 2fs wrote: > On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 9:18 PM, kevin studyvin > wrote: > > > > > listened to it yet. Try to get to that over the weekend. I've never > > really > > gotten the Morissey bug though; I always lumped him in with all the rest > of > > the charisma-free baritones the UK was cluttering the musical landscape > > with > > back in the 1990s and haven't encountered a reason to change that opinion > > yet. > > > > > Which is funny - entitled to your opinion and all - considering that > "character" and "charisma" come attached to Morrissey's name and lyrics > pretty often. > > -- > ...Jeff Norman > Well, as I said - I haven't paid a lot of attention. And the "charisma-free" complaint was specifically about his delivery, or at least the cursory opinion I formed of it at a time when, as above, the airwaves seemed to be crawling with affectless, monotonous British baritones who Did Not Rock, presumably as a matter of policy in re: coolness, aloofness, maintenance of. And none of those guys, whoever they were, seemed to be having much fun, so I stopped listening. And now we're confronted with this whole Smiths thing, and it's time for a second look. Further data to follow. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 03:21:57 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: Record Club the Third Steve Sloto says: > I wasn't even sure if it was active when I signed up. we're sneaky like that. > But I must say: thank you for sharing this album. It's phenomenal, and I had > never heard of it. :) i often suspect *no one's* ever heard anything stewart has. xo > I'm new to this mailing list thingy.. p.s. welcome to fegList. and stick around: we sometimes say things, and we sometimes even have things to say. - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 07:53:28 -0400 From: FSThomas Subject: In other musical news ... I thought one or two might find this entertaining: http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/jul/20/fugazi-release-hundreds-shows-online *Fugazi to release hundreds of live shows online* The most mosh-worthy punks of the 90s are launching an internet archive of 'almost every show' they have played, sparking hopes of a reunion Fugazi have revealed plans to put hundreds of their concerts online, helping thousands of fans to recall their favourite mosh-pit bruises. The legendary 1990s punk band will launch an internet archive featuring "almost every show" they ever played. "We are not that far away from being able to set up our own website where ultimately almost every show we ever played will be available for download," guitarist Guy Picciotto recently told fansite World of Fugazi (via Twentyfourbit). The Washington, DC band, revered by the DIY and post-hardcore scenes, toured the world from 1987 until 2002. Although bootlegs of their shows have been traded on tape, CD and now MP3, Fugazi have only previously issued 30 live recordings, as part of their Fugazi Live Series CD-Rs. These included concerts in New York, Hong Kong and London. According to Picciotto, Dischord Records is still busy converting the stack of bootlegs to a digital format and preparing the "infrastructure" of the project website. The recordings will probably be released a few at a time, beginning later this year. The archive's official announcement, still forthcoming from Dischord, could be an opportunity for an even bigger announcement b say, a Fugazi reunion. Despite an eight-year hiatus, the band have never officially broken up. Musically, Picciotto has been busy over the past two years, working with the late Vic Chesnutt. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 08:27:28 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: Record Club the Third Whoa On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > o fegs, I give ye: > > > > I'm not even going to tell you what it is. > > If your ears aren't bleeding, and neighbours aren't threatening you with > cudgels, you're not playing it loud enough. > > Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 08:43:41 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: Record Club the Third So on the first track, when the singer says his brother died in Vietnam, somehow I am consistently flashing on "That bitch took my money and went to Chicago" in "To the Kill"... On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > Whoa > > On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: >> o fegs, I give ye: >> >> >> >> I'm not even going to tell you what it is. >> >> If your ears aren't bleeding, and neighbours aren't threatening you with >> cudgels, you're not playing it loud enough. >> >> Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:11:03 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: Feg F/B (and SB) update... Can I just say - for all of us, but esp. for the non-Facebook Fegs out there (hi, my good friend Jill!) - that it is SUCH a cool thing that an actual Soft Boy has become such a nicely interacting part of our Feg circle via F/B? In case any of you haven't yet added Matthew (but would like to), here's his F/B profile address: http://www.facebook.com/mseligman Add in the fact that he's such a cool, pleasant guy...and it's all good. In case even F/B habitues may have missed this, here he is on the various merits of RH vs. Bowie AND even some inside thoughts on him and Andy as different RH / SB bassists: http://www.facebook.com/james.bone?v=wall&story_fbid=138707582817447 Later, skaters... Michael Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID2832 6::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 12:50:47 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Record Club the Third On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 11:01 PM, 2fs wrote: > This one's reputation preceded my hearing it by a number of years (not > counting The Fall's cover versions) - but off the top of my head & from > memory, two things surprised: it was actually less caveman-noisy than I > expected, and on a couple songs, there's actually like a melody going on. > Honestly, I was mostly expecting music that put itself over solely on sheer > energy and violent neanderthal charm (where "charm" equals "how cute the way > that poor drum kit never hurt anyone even though they're abusing it horribly > with what sound like enormous wooden clubs"). This is actually my first time hearing the original thing, and I guess what surprises me from the perspective of 2010 (and, if I'd heard it back then, 1980 or 1990 or 2000) is kind of what Jeff says: It strikes me as less "what are these noisy maniacs doing?" and more like it's of a piece with other mid- and late-'60s pop/psych/garage. Mad props to them doing it in late '65, though. And with a banjo as part of the instrumentation, no less. That being said, I'm not finding it that compelling as a listening experience unto itself. Maybe that will change - I'm writing this after two listens - but while I'm glad finally to know what this sounds like, it's more of enjoying having the history filled in rather than really wanting to hear this album. I really would rather listen to the things they probably helped bring into being (VU, Stooges, Pere Ubu) rather than this. later, Miles. - -- over a year of feeling guilty about not blogging enough! http://readingpronunciation.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:59:32 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: The Monks Kind of too bad about the timing -- I was wondering if their name could be a Monkees ref, but it looks like The Monkees was not on the air until 66 by which time The Monks had already chosen their name. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:03:17 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: The Monks Three tapes of them on TV: "Cuckoo" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXKQSxsEAEQ "Monk Chant" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5iI0__9S1c "Oh How to Do Now" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3fAzQzgeSc On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > Kind of too bad about the timing -- I was wondering if their name > could be a Monkees ref, but it looks like The Monkees was not on the > air until 66 by which time The Monks had already chosen their name. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 12:07:12 -0700 From: Jason Brown Subject: Re: Record Club the Third great choice Stewart! I love the monks. I think i discovered them not long after being blow away by the Sonics in a Pop Music class in college. The banjo rules! - -- Man of wisdom, and man of compromise, man of weak flesh in an armored disguise, all fall down. - - Robert Pollard ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:43:36 -0400 From: Stewart Russell Subject: Re: The Monks You also want to see the documentary "The Transatlantic Feedback" about the Monks. Tons of footage and interviews. Stewart On 7/22/10, Jeremy Osner wrote: > Three tapes of them on TV: > "Cuckoo" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXKQSxsEAEQ > "Monk Chant" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5iI0__9S1c > "Oh How to Do Now" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3fAzQzgeSc > > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: >> Kind of too bad about the timing -- I was wondering if their name >> could be a Monkees ref, but it looks like The Monkees was not on the >> air until 66 by which time The Monks had already chosen their name. > - -- http://scruss.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:49:02 -0400 From: ross Subject: Re: The Monks On 10-07-22 03:03 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > Three tapes of them on TV: > "Cuckoo" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXKQSxsEAEQ > "Monk Chant" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5iI0__9S1c > "Oh How to Do Now" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3fAzQzgeSc > Seeing them really enhances the experience. I love the communal guitar playing on "Monk Chant". One thing I found interesting about the album is that they lead with a message song, but enthusiastically launch the occasional song about absolutely nothing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:55:24 -0400 From: ross Subject: Re: The Monks On 10-07-22 03:03 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > Three tapes of them on TV: > "Cuckoo" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXKQSxsEAEQ > "Monk Chant" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5iI0__9S1c > "Oh How to Do Now" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3fAzQzgeSc > > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > >> Kind of too bad about the timing -- I was wondering if their name >> could be a Monkees ref, but it looks like The Monkees was not on the >> air until 66 by which time The Monks had already chosen their name. >> > I see the banjo is a banjo-guitar -- six strings. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:51:52 -0400 From: Stewart Russell Subject: Re: The Monks Yeah, dave day played a six-string framus mic'd up something fierce. On 7/22/10, ross wrote: > On 10-07-22 03:03 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: >> Three tapes of them on TV: >> "Cuckoo" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXKQSxsEAEQ >> "Monk Chant" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5iI0__9S1c >> "Oh How to Do Now" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3fAzQzgeSc >> >> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: >> >>> Kind of too bad about the timing -- I was wondering if their name >>> could be a Monkees ref, but it looks like The Monkees was not on the >>> air until 66 by which time The Monks had already chosen their name. >>> >> > I see the banjo is a banjo-guitar -- six strings. > - -- http://scruss.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:33:33 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: The Monks On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 4:49 PM, ross wrote: > On 10-07-22 03:03 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > >> Three tapes of them on TV: >> "Cuckoo" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXKQSxsEAEQ >> "Monk Chant" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5iI0__9S1c >> "Oh How to Do Now" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3fAzQzgeSc >> >> > Seeing them really enhances the experience. I love the communal guitar > playing on "Monk Chant". > That fuzz bass is somethin' fierce! From the Wikipedia entry, I found this amusing: "2007 saw the formation of the London five piece The Nuns, an all-female Monks tribute band." - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V18 #140 ********************************