From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V18 #126 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, June 30 2010 Volume 18 : Number 126 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Party Down ["Bri N" ] Re: The Smiths, etc. [Rex ] My name is "Eb" (Shaft Of Light) ["Nectar At Any Cost!" ] More Robyn by me [Rex ] Re: More Robyn by me [Jeremy Osner ] Robyn Hitchcock Live at Dancebase on 2001-08-22 on archive.org ["Stewart ] more Smiths and Kinks this and that [Jill Brand ] Re: more Smiths and Kinks this and that [2fs ] Re: more Smiths and Kinks this and that [Rex ] Re: hello my dear. [Tom Clark ] Re: hello my dear. ["craigie*" ] Lurker With An iTunes Problem [Al Masciocchi ] Re: Lurker With An iTunes Problem [Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Party Down OK... so who mentioned Party Down and Arrested Development in the same sentence? Well, bless you. I decided to do a little research on Party Down for my virgin eyes and ears... turns out I can watch the 1st season on ROKU, which I've tonight started. The 1st episode has Repo Man tag lines! (and Martin Star from Freaks and Geeks). Bravo for the turn on! n.p. Surfer Ghost and "Bad Case Of History" while I rearrange book shelves. - -Nuppy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 20:35:15 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: The Smiths, etc. On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Miles Goosens wrote: > > And this is always where I say that the navel gazing pretty much ends > with MEAT IS MURDER, and Morrissey develops a full-blown sense of > humor (not that one wasn't present with the puns and wordplay of the > first two albums, but yeah, even those features are in the service of > Meaningfulness back then) and a self-depreciating one at that, which > is part of what makes THE QUEEN IS DEAD, LOUDER THAN BOMBS, VIVA HATE, > and BONA DRAG so incredibly appealing to me. It's not the mopey sad thing that bugs me so much as the self-appointed king of the outsiders attitude. Over and over again he seems to be trying to portray himself as the definitive nonconformist, and I just don't relate to his schtick, so it falls flat for me. I definitely recognize that he has a sense of humor, but I almost never find it funny. The first Smiths record I heard was the last one, and I know it's not primo. But I didn't get the charge out of following the catalogue backwards that I did with so many other bands from that era (Bunnymen/REM/Church/Mats/Huskers); when I later went through a second belated round of getting into the bands I'd not been on the fence about at the time (Cure/New Order/Furs etc.) I couldn't get the Smiths to take like the rest. Besides which, it's hard to remember now, but a lot of people *hated* the Smiths back then... I went through a brief period of thinking I was supposed to like them, and then was kind of relieved to find out that I wasn't alone in not loving them. Somewhere along the line, though, it seems like all the other non-fans disappeared. > Miles, > just back from a spectacular New Pornographers show > Did Neko fucking pummel anyone? Please say yes! - -Rex > > > > -- > over a year of feeling guilty about not blogging enough! > http://readingpronunciation.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 20:55:43 -0700 From: "Nectar At Any Cost!" Subject: My name is "Eb" (Shaft Of Light) well, tomorrow's my last day as a resident of seattle. on wednesday i'll be heading to montana for a few weeks -- including to take in the awesome, so awesome (as least if last year's is a reliable indication) national folk festival (i believe it'll take up residence beginning next year in nashville). after that, it's on to hawaii for six or eight months of WWOOFing, and then to southeast asia to eat as much durian as it's humanly possible to do. will check in when i'm able! seattle has become a horrific maelstrom of unceasing noise pollution, so i shan't exactly be letting the door hit my ass... last night's recital by josh ritter and the [newly named] royal city band was itself awesome, so awesome. electrifying. they've reached a new level, i think. if you're interested in being blown away...well, you'll have to get out and see them, frankly. but i *have* uploaded my recording of the evening's festivities to . better'n nothing! jeff n., if i'd not been too lazy to respond to your questioning of the "rocker" tag laid upon him by a recent headline-writer, i'd have said that while (largely) true in the case of the records, the band are fairly rocking live. still true, but now even more so. and LOUD, too. at least, when they wanna be. this was their last stateside show. think they're off to europe in a few weeks. you may wanna avoid *Enthusiasm*, in that case! well, the characters aren't necessarily vapid...but definitely assholes. anyway, i find *Entourage* both funny and touching, as well as supremely compelling -- especially seasons one, two, and five (if i'm remembering correctly). and the acting is aces. not only the obvious case of piven, but the rest of the cast as well. kevin dillon, in particular, i think deserves much more credit than he's received. ultimately i suppose it just does come down to taste. one man's garbage, and all that. oh, speaking of the tee to the vee, i eagerly snapped up the first three seasons of *Thirtysomething* as quickly as the library made them available. one of my favourite-ever shows, but i'd never seen even a single episode since it went off the air. i was sure that miles' having dissed it on his blog a while back would prove to've been a mistake. but, it wasn't. quite underwhelmed was i, re-watching it twenty years later. not as underwhelmed as when re-watching *Northern Exposure* years later, but underwhelmed never the less. oh, well. i'd still be interested to re-watch the fourth and final season, when it becomes available in the DVD medium. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 23:26:10 -0700 From: Rex Subject: More Robyn by me An actual Robyn composition this time! http://thirtyninefortycovers.blogspot.com/2010/06/102-all-i-wanna-do-is-fall-in-love-by.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 07:00:14 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: More Robyn by me ohboyohboy, and one of my faves too! On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 2:26 AM, Rex wrote: > An actual Robyn composition this time! > > http://thirtyninefortycovers.blogspot.com/2010/06/102-all-i-wanna-do-is-fall-in-love-by.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 07:28:05 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Robyn Hitchcock Live at Dancebase on 2001-08-22 on archive.org This is the BBC Radio 3 broadcast version. http://www.archive.org/details/Robyn_Hitchcock2001-08-22.radio.flac16 Robyn Hitchcock Dancebase, Edinburgh 2001-08-22 Broadcast on BBC Radio 3 Andy Kershaw show, 2001-08-24 FM-Radio > SB-16 > WAV > CD-R CD-R > XLD > FLAC-16 Sound is occasionally slightly buzzy, but generally pretty clear. Setlist: 1 Gene Hackman 2 Cheese Alarm 3 Arms Of Love 4 Surgery 5 I Often Dream Of Trains 6 Autumn Is Your Last Chance 7 Freeze 8 (Interview with Andy Kershaw) Support was The Bhundu Boys. Recorded and transferred by Stewart C. Russell - scruss.com (who also has a mono AUD on minidisc of this - enquire if interested) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 09:19:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: more Smiths and Kinks this and that Actually, Kinks first. I still stand by Kontroversy as belonging at the beginning of that list, but hey, I'm easy. Kronikles is sort of cheating because it isn't really an album (just John Mendelsohn's wet dream) but rather a collection of songs from various records and then supersongs (like Autumn Almanac, This is Where I Belong, Wonderboy, Days, and Susannah's Still Alive to name a few) that had not been on albums before. It stands alone. Oh yeah, Miles, it was Dave, not Ray, who dragged me on stage at one of his little solo shows. I doubt that Ray has ever done anything like that (except for Pete Quaife a few years ago). And Rex, I know that we stand shoulder-to-shoulder in Kinkdom, but you are a Fall fan, for cyring out loud. How could you possibly like the Smiths? Mark E. would forbid it. I can fully understand hating Morrissey's voice. In the early albums, he was often slightly off-key and braying. I still love it, though. There's no accounting for voices that one hates. I can't stand to listen to Natalie Merchant, Stevie Nicks (Michael, don't hate me), or Robert Plant. I can tell you what I don't like, but I don't know what makes me not like them. And then there's Colin Meloy. I rather like his singing; my friend Cindy wrote to me that she would really like the Decemberists CD that I had sent her if they could only find another lead singer. Jill Hot and Humid in Belmont MA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 09:45:38 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: more Smiths and Kinks this and that On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 8:19 AM, Jill Brand wrote: > > > And Rex, I know that we stand shoulder-to-shoulder in Kinkdom, but you are > a Fall fan, for cyring out loud. How could you possibly like the Smiths? > Hi Jill. I am a Fall fan. I am also a Smiths fan. I am also a Kinks fan. (Heh-heh: just *destroyed her world*!) > Mark E. would forbid it. I can fully understand hating Morrissey's voice. > In the early albums, he was often slightly off-key and braying. Because no one else can be off-key and braying than MES, that's why. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 10:41:22 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: more Smiths and Kinks this and that On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 6:19 AM, Jill Brand wrote: > Actually, Kinks first. I still stand by Kontroversy as belonging at the > beginning of that list, but hey, I'm easy. Kronikles is sort of cheating > because it isn't really an album (just John Mendelsohn's wet dream) Ha! > but rather a collection of songs from various records and then supersongs > (like Autumn Almanac, This is Where I Belong, Wonderboy, Days, and > Susannah's Still Alive to name a few) that had not been on albums before. It > stands alone. > Wow, look at that list of songs, though. Man > And Rex, I know that we stand shoulder-to-shoulder in Kinkdom, but you are > a Fall fan, for cyring out loud. How could you possibly like the Smiths? > Mark E. would forbid it. There may be something to that. I certainly like a lot of other artists on whom MES would not piss if they were on fire unless he had temporarily or permanently lost bladder control as may be fairly likely, but the Smiths and Fall are sort of Manchester-localized matter and anti-matter. There are people who are fans of both, as Jeff points out, but they are extremely ideologically/aesthetically opposing entities, although one wonders if Morrissey has given a single thought to The Fall or MES since the day when they used to end up on bills together, if even then. > I can fully understand hating Morrissey's voice. In the early albums, he > was often slightly off-key and braying. The voice is okay... I discovered the Smiths after the Housemartins, and part of me still thinks Morrissey as that guy who sounds like Paul Heaton without any rhythm. Similar thing with Meloy, actually... as one would guess, as a fan of RH and similar singers, I'm not put off by his voice so much as how he employs it. I would even say that my dislike of the Decemberists shares a lot with my dislike of Morrissey, except that I appreciate Meloy a lot more, since he actually writes his tunes and commands his craft from the ground up, and fairly inarguably is a talented and inventive composer. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 13:45:01 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: hello my dear. On Jun 29, 2010, at 10:06 AM, rejoice4u@islam.ru wrote: > Nice to meet you, > How are you and how is your work? i hope that all is well with you, My name is miss Nora,i know that you may be suprise how i get your email, i got your email today i was browsing looking for honest partner,then i feel to drop this few line to you , and i will like you to contact me through my email so that we can know each other and exchange our pictures, and we maybecome partner. > > Remember the distance does not matter what matters is the love we share with each other. > > i am waiting to hear from you soon. > > kiss regards Miss Nora (nora_43good@yahoo.com) Dear Miss Nora, You are ugly and tickets grow out of your mouth. Sincerely, Reginald ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 22:02:40 +0100 From: "craigie*" Subject: Re: hello my dear. I thought your name wasn't Reg, and we weren't to call you that? c* On 29 June 2010 21:45, Tom Clark wrote: > On Jun 29, 2010, at 10:06 AM, rejoice4u@islam.ru wrote: > > > Nice to meet you, > > How are you and how is your work? i hope that all is well with you, My > name is miss Nora,i know that you may be suprise how i get your email, i got > your email today i was browsing looking for honest partner,then i feel to > drop this few line to you , and i will like you to contact me through my > email so that we can know each other and exchange our pictures, and we > maybecome partner. > > > > Remember the distance does not matter what matters is the love we share > with each other. > > > > i am waiting to hear from you soon. > > > > kiss regards Miss Nora (nora_43good@yahoo.com) > > Dear Miss Nora, > > You are ugly and tickets grow out of your mouth. > > Sincerely, > Reginald > - -- first things first, but not necessarily in that order... I like my girls to be the same as my records - independent, attractively packaged and in black vinyl (if at all possible)... Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc (the motto of the Addams Family: "We gladly feast on those who would subdue us") ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 22:16:31 -0400 From: Al Masciocchi Subject: Lurker With An iTunes Problem Here's my problem. I have iTunes on my PC. And before anyone says it, I know the solution is switch to Apple. That's the plan, but dad is fourth inline behind the three kids and number three just got her macbook, so I'll be next. But in the meantime I have this problem. I have my music - about 21,000 song - on an external hard drive. I direct iTunes to look to this drive and everything had been fine. Then my laptop got fried and I had to replace it. The old laptop was running Windows xp, the new one is Windows 7. I thought it would be simple - load on iTunes, direct it to the folder on the external hard drive and I'm off and running. And that appeared to be the case except for the lost playlists but they can be recreated albeit slowly. Problem arose when I went I to recreate one of those playlists. I was making a smart playlist using the genre field. I went to change that field (right click on the song, then Get Info, then the Info tab) for a track and couldn't. All the track data appeared to be there but it was ghost writing (don't know the name for that, where it's there but can't be clicked on or edited). I experimented by going to the actual mp3 file and changing the song title - which I could do - but that didn't affect the title in iTunes. I tried updating iTunes from version 9.03.15 to 9.2 but that didn't help. The songs play fine. I haven't tried to update my iPod yet because I haven't recreated all the playlists So, any suggestions on what to do to turn this ghost information into something I can change/edit? Thanks, Al ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:33:27 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Lurker With An iTunes Problem - -- Al Masciocchi is rumored to have mumbled on 29. Juni 2010 22:16:31 -0400 regarding Lurker With An iTunes Problem: > I have my music - about 21,000 song - on an external hard drive. I > direct iTunes to look to this drive and everything had been fine. Then > my laptop got fried and I had to replace it. The old laptop was running > Windows xp, the new one is Windows 7. I thought it would be simple - > load on iTunes, direct it to the folder on the external hard drive and > I'm off and running. And that appeared to be the case except for the > lost playlists but they can be recreated albeit slowly. > > > Problem arose when I went I to recreate one of those playlists. I was > making a smart playlist using the genre field. I went to change that > field (right click on the song, then Get Info, then the Info tab) for a > track and couldn't. All the track data appeared to be there but it was > ghost writing (don't know the name for that, where it's there but can't > be clicked on or edited). That's usually called "greyed out", I think. > I experimented by going to the actual mp3 file > and changing the song title - which I could do - but that didn't affect > the title in iTunes. Right, it might actually make things worse because iTunes won't be able to find tracks you renamed outside of iTunes. I'm only guessing here, but could it be that iTunes isn't allowed to write that external hard drive? I know next to nothing about Windows 7 and its permissions model, but it sounds as though iTunes might have read-only access to your library ... - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V18 #126 ********************************