From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V18 #87 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, May 1 2010 Volume 18 : Number 087 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Kiwi album of the year [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] Re: Quote-Unquote [kevin studyvin ] Covers improving on the original [David Witzany ] Exclusive (?) First Listen: The Fall, 'Your Future Our Clutter' [HwyCDRr] Re: all hail...uh, SOMEBODY - some Feg in or around the NE IL metro area... [Rex ] Re: Kiwi album of the year [Rex ] Re: Quote-Unquote [Rex ] Re: Covers improving on the original [Rex ] Sonic Youth, Superstar [David Witzany ] Eaten By Here Own Dindin ["Bri N" ] Re: Eaten By Here Own Dindin [vivien lyon ] Re: Eaten By Here Own Dindin [Rex ] Re: Kiwi album of the year [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] Re: Kiwi album of the year [Eleanore Adams ] Re: Covers improving on the original [Tom Clark ] Re: Quote-Unquote [kevin studyvin ] Movie talk [Jeremy Osner ] Re: Movie talk [Jeremy Osner ] REAP [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] reap [Miles Goosens ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 17:07:13 +1200 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Kiwi album of the year I haven't sent a recommendation from the deep south for a while so... may I heartily recommend The Phoenix Foundation's new album "Buffalo". Soft, vaguely experimental pop, sort of like a cross between New pornographers and an Eno-produced James (the band, that is) album. Very lovely, very recommended. This may give you a taste: James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 06:25:35 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Quote-Unquote > anyhow, checked out greg kot's book about them from the library, and here's > tupelo's co-producer on their "I Wanna Destroy You": > > > >> it's an amazing version of a great song. [...] it's an obscurity that > they'd been playing in their sets for years, and their version is better > than the original. << > > > i don't hear it that way; but that's okay. apropos of nothing -- except > the topic of covers that may be better than the originals -- anybody else > absolutely smitten with firewater's "Paint It Black"? > No, but I remain fascinated with Bryan Ferry's take on "Like a Hurricane." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 08:40:10 -0500 (CDT) From: David Witzany Subject: Covers improving on the original When Eddie said.... >Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 21:23:29 -0700 >From: "Nectar At Any Cost!" >Subject: Quote-Unquote > >anyhow, checked out greg kot's book about them [Wilco--dw] from the library, and here's >tupelo's co-producer on their "I Wanna Destroy You": > > >>> it's an amazing version of a great song. [...] it's an obscurity that >they'd been playing in their sets for years, and their version is better >than the original. << > > >i don't hear it that way; but that's okay. apropos of nothing -- except >the topic of covers that may be better than the originals -- anybody else >absolutely smitten with firewater's "Paint It Black"? > >------------------------------ ......you knew he was a no-good kid. But that's beside the point. There are several great covers on "If I were a Carpenter". Shonen Knife's "On Top of the World" is so infectiously peppy, I play itvon my show at least once a year--hmmm, maybe tonight's the night. I don't know how many times I heard the original "Superstar" without thinking about it; Sonic Youth's version made me realize how dark the song is--makes you wonder what the Carpenters were thinking, recording it in the first place. I don't know if anyone can surpass the original, but Robyn does a dandy "Kung Fu Fighting". Dave. David Witzany ...one of nature's witzany@uiuc.edu bounds checkers ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 10:19:01 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Exclusive (?) First Listen: The Fall, 'Your Future Our Clutter' On N P R !!!! http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=126016897&sc=nl&cc=mn-2 0100430 Bob Dylan Examiner Column http://www.examiner.com/x-21829-Bob-Dylan-Examiner Twitter - @DylanExaminer also on Facebook ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:00:38 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: all hail...uh, SOMEBODY - some Feg in or around the NE IL metro area... On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Michael Sweeney wrote: > Jeff N. wrote: > > Anyway...yeah, that was before EITHER of us knew what we looked like (I > hadn't > linked my outside stuff to the list yet and - also IIRC - your blog just > had > that close-up "eyes" shot) - ah, the "magic" of Facebook (yeah, but THANK > GAWD > for pics of Jeanne, Lauren E., Viv, Eleanore, Barbara, Marcy, Carrie, > Laura, > etc. to balance out all of us balding, greying, ever-thickening Feg > dudes)...oh well! (PS - no one left out intentionally...just mentally > attempting to recall my F/B fairer-sex Feg friends!) > Hey, I'm not greying. That quickly. Reminds me, I need to get a haircut hippie. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:08:16 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Dorothy acknowledges The Fall On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Miles Goosens wrote: > > > You left out the part where, during the other speakers' turns at the > mic, he wanders out and begins adjusting the knobs on the amps to no > discernible effect. > Also MES likes Happy Mondays. It's Fuckin Stone Roses he hates. Also Fuckin Inspiral Carpets (until he did a guest vocal for them), and holds that Lloyd Cole has face like cowpat, we all know that. Additionally also, I can assure you that there are people in the current generation who can't play their instruments. They just don't admit it as readily. Pussies. Rex Broome, guitar and vocal, Fuckin Charlatans Fuckin UK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:12:56 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Kiwi album of the year On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:07 PM, wrote: > > > This may give you a taste: > Nice. I notice they have a song called "Hitchcock"... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:14:27 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Quote-Unquote On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 6:25 AM, kevin studyvin wrote: > > No, but I remain fascinated with Bryan Ferry's take on "Like a Hurricane." > Hmmm... well that sounds... hmmmm. I dunno, do I want to hear that? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:19:08 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Covers improving on the original On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 6:40 AM, David Witzany wrote: > > There are several great covers on "If I were a Carpenter". Shonen Knife's > "On Top of the World" is so infectiously peppy, I play itvon my show at > least once a year--hmmm, maybe tonight's the night. I don't know how many > times I heard the original "Superstar" without thinking about it; Sonic > Youth's version made me realize how dark the song is--makes you wonder what > the Carpenters were thinking, recording it in the first place. > Y'know, I hadn't been conscious of hearing the original version of that song until about five years ago, and despite being a borderline SY completist didn't have their version until even more recently. However, doing some googling on SY recently, I've noticed that if you type in "sonic youth s" the suggested completions list "sonic youth superstar" several places above "sonic youth sister", which is all wrong. I blame Diablo Cody for picking it to be on that Starbucks compilation, but then I blame Diablo Cody for a lot of shit. Love "Tunic", though. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 11:43:47 -0500 (CDT) From: David Witzany Subject: Sonic Youth, Superstar "Superstar" was also featured in the movie "Juno"--when Juno talks music with the husband in the couple she's thinking of letting adopt her baby. - ---- Original message ---- >Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:19:08 -0700 >From: Rex >Subject: Re: Covers improving on the original >To: David Witzany >Cc: fegmaniax@smoe.org > > On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 6:40 AM, David Witzany > wrote: > > ...snip... I don't know how many times I heard the > original "Superstar" without thinking about it; > Sonic Youth's version made me realize how dark the > song is--makes you wonder what the Carpenters were > thinking, recording it in the first place. > > Y'know, I hadn't been conscious of hearing the > original version of that song until about five years > ago, and despite being a borderline SY completist > didn't have their version until even more recently. > However, doing some googling on SY recently, I've > noticed that if you type in "sonic youth s" the > suggested completions list "sonic youth superstar" > several places above "sonic youth sister", which is > all wrong. I blame Diablo Cody for picking it to > be on that Starbucks compilation, but then I blame > Diablo Cody for a lot of shit. > Love "Tunic", though. > -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 10:05:17 -0700 From: "Bri N" Subject: Eaten By Here Own Dindin Jeremy: What do you guys think about the "Eaten by her own dinner" EP? That record seems very singular to me. All of the songs on it are etched very deeply into my consciousness (except "Messages of Dark" -- that's a song that I can hear if I think about it but that does not come unbidden into my thoughts) but I don't think I've heard the record for 15 years, and I don't really know any of the songs on it from any other source besides that EP. I have it on a poorly dubbed cassette somewhere, but damned if I would be able to locate it. And I don't think I really need to listen to it again because as I say, the songs are a part of me. - ------------- I like the EP. Was the 1st place I heard Happy The Golden Prince which fills me with emotion when I hear it. I have the 7" of Eaten too. It is autographed with Robyn's full name in thick green ink ('Robyn Hitchcock' not just 'Robyn H.'). It's rare when we signs things with his full name. Here's a LIVE version of Eaten By Her Own Dinner from 1981: http://www.sendspace.com/file/wirow3 - -Nuppy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 10:50:13 -0700 From: vivien lyon Subject: Re: Eaten By Here Own Dindin This reminds me of the Eaten by Her Own Dinner Dinner I had prior to the Music Against Brain Degeneration tour in '99... we had: Napoleon Et Chicken Mackerel sushi Hummus and chapatis Ice Cream Hands ice cream sandwiches (made from hand-shaped cookies) And I can't remember what else... On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Bri N wrote: > Jeremy: > What do you guys think about the "Eaten by her own dinner" EP? That > record seems very singular to me. All of the songs on it are etched > very deeply into my consciousness (except "Messages of Dark" -- that's > a song that I can hear if I think about it but that does not come > unbidden into my thoughts) but I don't think I've heard the record for > 15 years, and I don't really know any of the songs on it from any > other source besides that EP. I have it on a poorly dubbed cassette > somewhere, but damned if I would be able to locate it. And I don't > think I really need to listen to it again because as I say, the songs > are a part of me. > ------------- > > I like the EP. Was the 1st place I heard Happy The Golden Prince which > fills me with emotion when I hear it. I have the 7" of Eaten too. It is > autographed with Robyn's full name in thick green ink ('Robyn Hitchcock' not > just 'Robyn H.'). It's rare when we signs things with his full name. > > Here's a LIVE version of Eaten By Her Own Dinner from 1981: > http://www.sendspace.com/file/wirow3 > > -Nuppy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 11:16:39 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Eaten By Here Own Dindin On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 10:50 AM, vivien lyon wrote: > This reminds me of the Eaten by Her Own Dinner Dinner I had prior to the > Music Against Brain Degeneration tour in '99... we had: > Napoleon Et Chicken > Mackerel sushi > Hummus and chapatis > Ice Cream Hands ice cream sandwiches (made from hand-shaped cookies) > And I can't remember what else... > Did that predate The Cheese Alarm? And the yams... If done now, you could also follow RH's recipe for food pie. Or go for the obliteration flavor. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 10:40:09 +1200 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: Kiwi album of the year >On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:07 PM, ><grutness@slingshot.co.nz> wrote: > > > >This may give you a taste: ><http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW5JfdfVE7o> > > >Nice. I notice they have a song called "Hitchcock"... They do indeed - or more accurately, an instrumental. No apparent link with our RH, or Alfred, for that matter - it sounds like it's been influenced by 50s science fiction movies, if anything. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 16:01:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Eleanore Adams Subject: Re: Kiwi album of the year Great video and tracK! ea - --- On Fri, 4/30/10, grutness@slingshot.co.nz wrote: From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: Kiwi album of the year To: "Rex" Cc: "All the clouds turn to words..." Date: Friday, April 30, 2010, 3:40 PM > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:07 PM, <grutness@slingshot.co.nz> wrote: > > > > This may give you a taste: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b W5JfdfVE7o> > > > Nice. I notice they have a song called "Hitchcock"... They do indeed - or more accurately, an instrumental. No apparent link with our RH, or Alfred, for that matter - it sounds like it's been influenced by 50s science fiction movies, if anything. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 15:28:12 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Covers improving on the original On Apr 30, 2010, at 6:40 AM, David Witzany wrote: > There are several great covers on "If I were a Carpenter". Shonen Knife's "On Top of the World" is so infectiously peppy, Cracker's "Rainy Days And Mondays" is pretty damn awesome as well. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 17:54:12 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Quote-Unquote On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Rex wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 6:25 AM, kevin studyvin wrote: > >> >> No, but I remain fascinated with Bryan Ferry's take on "Like a Hurricane." >> > > Hmmm... well that sounds... hmmmm. I dunno, do I want to hear that? > > It began life as a B-side on the 12" Jealous Guy single back in '81, so it's mot more or less that Avalon sound; little bit of samba. No matter how alien the idea may seem, it's worth a listen. Certainly you'd never know it was a Neil Young song, the way Roxy swank it up. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 20:59:05 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Movie talk Any fegs interested in chatting about what films would be worthwhile to see? Have I already recommended to you guys and "Woyzek"? Have any of you experience you'd like to share vis-a-vis Turkish director Nuri Bilge Ceylan (not a pirate despite his middle name), whom I've been hearing recommended in glowing terms? J ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 21:04:06 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: Movie talk (Other subjects for chatting about will of course be considered on a case-by-case level.) On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > Any fegs interested in chatting about what films would be worthwhile > to see? Have I already recommended to you guys and "Woyzek"? Have any > of you experience you'd like to share vis-a-vis Turkish director Nuri > Bilge Ceylan (not a pirate despite his middle name), whom I've been > hearing recommended in glowing terms? > > J ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 00:44:02 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: REAP Michael Jackson's attorney Peter Lopez dead from apparent suicide in Encino http://www.examiner.com/x-34432-LA-Music-Industry-Examiner~y2010m4d30-Michae l-Jacksons-attorney-Peter-Lopez-dead-from-apparent-suicide-in-Encino Bob Dylan Examiner Column http://www.examiner.com/x-21829-Bob-Dylan-Examiner Twitter - @DylanExaminer also on Facebook ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 07:04:05 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: reap Nasville's Own Will Owsley, an apparent suicide. Owsley's eponymous debut was one of the great power pop albums of the '90s. He also produced and/or played on a slew o' things. He'll be missed. later, Miles - -- over a year of feeling guilty about not blogging enough! http://readingpronunciation.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V18 #87 *******************************