From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V18 #72 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, April 8 2010 Volume 18 : Number 072 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: clunkers [Jason Brown ] Re: clunkers ["Stewart C. Russell" ] TC is right [Jill Brand ] RE: TC is right ["Marc" ] PT on allmusic [Steve Sonoras ] Re: PT on allmusic [2fs ] Re: clunkers [Rex ] Re: TC is right [Eleanore Adams ] The Legendary Morris Windsor [Rex ] Re: Shitty Wok [ART ROCK POSTER ] Re: clunkers [Tom Clark ] RE: The Legendary Morris Windsor ["Brian Huddell" ] Re: The Legendary Morris Windsor [m swedene ] REAP - Talcy Malcy ["craigie*" ] Re: The Legendary Morris Windsor [Rex ] Re: REAP - Talcy Malcy [2fs ] Re: TC is right [kevin studyvin ] Re: REAP - Talcy Malcy [kevin studyvin ] Re: TC is right [Rex ] a quiz and a reprise [Miles Goosens ] Re: TC is right [Jason Brown ] RE: a quiz and a reprise [Steve Sonoras ] Re: a quiz and a reprise [Rex ] Re: TC is right [Rex ] Reap [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] Re: album streak and album closers [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] Re: clunkers ["edwardofsim@tiscali.co.uk" ] Re: a quiz and a reprise [lep ] Re: a quiz and a reprise [lep ] Re: clunkers [kevin studyvin ] Re: album streak and album closers [kevin studyvin ] Re: a quiz and a reprise [kevin studyvin ] Re: album streak and album closers [] Re: TC is right [Jill Brand ] Re: album streak and album closers [kevin studyvin ] Re: TC is right [kevin studyvin ] REAP [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 00:15:11 -0700 From: Jason Brown Subject: Re: clunkers >> I'm extremely lukewarm over Moss Elixir (and Mossy Liquor). Slightly >> warmer on Jewells / Star, but only slightly. > > I don't understand all the hating on Sophia. "Mexican God"? "Cheese Alarm"? "Viva Seatac"? "Sally Was A Legend"? > And Bram has some equally great tracks, srsly. I love Sophia but "Viva Seatac" is just not a good song and it even namechecks my neighborhood. Its a silly b-side and that's it. I do think combining the best of Sophia and Bram would have made for the best Robyn album of the 90s. How about this lineup? Mexican God The Cheese Alarm I Feel Beautiful Adoration Of The City I Saw Nick Drake Dark Princess Nietzsche's Way Daisy Bomb You've Got A Sweet Mouth On You, Baby 1974 I Used To Love You The Philosophers' Stone Judas Sings (Jesus & Me) The Underneath No, I Don't Remember Guildford - -- We've all got a Briggs in us Somewhere down the road I don't know about you folks but this Briggs will explode - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 07:31:19 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: clunkers On 10-04-08 03:15 , Jason Brown wrote: > > I love Sophia but "Viva Seatac" is just not a good song and it even > namechecks my neighborhood. Its a silly b-side and that's it. 's a great song. Don't knock it. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 07:14:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: TC is right Tom Clark wrote: "I don't understand all the hating on Sophia. "Mexican God"? "Cheese Alarm"? "Viva Seatac"? "Sally Was A Legend"?" I don't get it either. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 07:54:31 -0400 From: "Marc" Subject: RE: TC is right Jill Brand wrote: "Tom Clark wrote: "I don't understand all the hating on Sophia. "Mexican God"? "Cheese Alarm"? "Viva Seatac"? "Sally Was A Legend"?" I don't get it either." To which I add: count me in with Jill and TC. Not a huge fan of Sophia, but I absolutely love "Sally Was A Legend" and "Mexican God." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 12:34:16 +0000 From: Steve Sonoras Subject: PT on allmusic Allmusic.com finally put up a star-rating for Propellor Time, and it's a stellar 4.5: Robyn's first since Element of Light (!!!). I must say, I agree with them. The new disc is right up there with Jewels for Sophia for me; the disc has some filler, which I'd say comprises nearly half of every Robyn album, but the filler is fun and spirited. Here's the glowing review if you haven't checked it out already: http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:anfuxzwsldte Cheers! Steven Sonoras Ypsilanti, MI _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID2832 6::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 08:14:36 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: PT on allmusic On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 7:34 AM, Steve Sonoras wrote: > Allmusic.com finally put up a star-rating for Propellor Time, and it's a > stellar 4.5: Robyn's first since Element of Light (!!!). > > Here's the glowing review if you haven't checked it out already: > > http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:anfuxzwsldte > > It's a nice review and all...but I don't like that new "glow" feature some of the reviews have. It's like I suddenly have to put on sunglasses just to read the damned thing. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 08:28:49 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: clunkers > I do think combining the best of Sophia and Bram would have made for > the best Robyn album of the 90s. How about this lineup? > > Mexican God > The Cheese Alarm > I Feel Beautiful > Adoration Of The City > I Saw Nick Drake > Dark Princess > Nietzsche's Way > Daisy Bomb > You've Got A Sweet Mouth On You, Baby > 1974 > I Used To Love You > The Philosophers' Stone > Judas Sings (Jesus & Me) > The Underneath > No, I Don't Remember Guildford > Totally agree. "Jewels" did have some classics but also some uncharacteristically obvious filler; the release of "Bram" compounded the frustration by demonstrating that there had been some great tracks left in the can. I generally approve of Robyn's short album ethic, but something went off in the '90's and all those "companion albums" show it... track selection was a little off. But it's alright now. - -Rex > > > > > -- > We've all got a Briggs in us Somewhere down the road > I don't know about you folks but this Briggs will explode > - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 08:37:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Eleanore Adams Subject: Re: TC is right Personally Sophia is one of my modern favs! ea - --- On Thu, 4/8/10, Jill Brand wrote: From: Jill Brand Subject: TC is right To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Date: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 4:14 AM Tom Clark wrote: "I don't understand all the hating on Sophia. "Mexican God"? "Cheese Alarm"? "Viva Seatac"? "Sally Was A Legend"?" I don't get it either. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 09:00:30 -0700 From: Rex Subject: The Legendary Morris Windsor ... is the title of today's offering on 39-40. http://thirtyninefortycovers.blogspot.com/2010/04/21-legendary-morris-windsor-by-robyn.html Includes a few other items of Feggy interest. - -Rex Broome, guitar and vocals etc., Rex Broome ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 12:04:56 -0400 From: ART ROCK POSTER Subject: Re: Shitty Wok one time at band camp, Miles Goosens (outdoorminer@gmail.com) said: >On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 6:13 PM, woj wrote: >> one time at band camp, Tom Clark (tclark@mac.com) said: >> >>>On Mar 31, 2010, at 8:11 AM, 2fs wrote: >> >>>> I should probably give them a chance...but "Black Rebel Motorcycle Club" is >>>> the most desperately hip-seeking, look-at-me band name around, isn't it? >> >>>The only thing I know about them is they were somehow affiliated with >>>Brian Jonestown Massacre >> >> huh. based on the name, i always assumed they were a georgia satellite >> spin-off. >Why? And you say that like it might be a bad thing. why? i don't know. and i didn't mean as if it were a bad thing. however, their name did make me less inclined to give them a listen. +w ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 08:29:36 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: clunkers On Apr 8, 2010, at 12:15 AM, Jason Brown wrote: > I do think combining the best of Sophia and Bram would have made for > the best Robyn album of the 90s. I was thinking the same thing! - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 12:10:12 -0500 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: The Legendary Morris Windsor Great job, Rex! > ... is the title of today's offering on 39-40. > > http://thirtyninefortycovers.blogspot.com/2010/04/21-legendary-morris- > windsor-by-robyn.html > > Includes a few other items of Feggy interest. > > -Rex Broome, guitar and vocals etc., Rex Broome ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 14:13:38 -0400 From: m swedene Subject: Re: The Legendary Morris Windsor Love it! I also enjoyed your Bjork cover very much. Mike On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Brian Huddell wrote: > Great job, Rex! > > > ... is the title of today's offering on 39-40. > > > > http://thirtyninefortycovers.blogspot.com/2010/04/21-legendary-morris- > > windsor-by-robyn.html > > > > Includes a few other items of Feggy interest. > > > > -Rex Broome, guitar and vocals etc., Rex Broome ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 19:21:36 +0100 From: "craigie*" Subject: REAP - Talcy Malcy http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/news/malcolm-mclaren-dies-aged-64-1939621.html - -- first things first, but not necessarily in that order... I like my girls to be the same as my records - independent, attractively packaged and in black vinyl (if at all possible)... Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc (the motto of the Addams Family: "We gladly feast on those who would subdue us") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 11:46:00 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: The Legendary Morris Windsor On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 11:13 AM, m swedene wrote: > Love it! > I also enjoyed your Bjork cover very much. > > One of the coolest side effects of that Bjork thing is that the kids will just break into that (very odd) song from time to time, substituting all kinds of words for the Icelandic. My favorite was a plea for me to buy them frozen bananas. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 13:47:59 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: REAP - Talcy Malcy On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 1:21 PM, craigie* wrote: > > http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/news/malcolm-mclaren-dies-aged-64-1939621.html > > No future. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 11:59:06 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: TC is right On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 4:14 AM, Jill Brand wrote: > Tom Clark wrote: "I don't understand all the hating on Sophia. "Mexican > God"? "Cheese Alarm"? "Viva Seatac"? "Sally Was A Legend"?" > > I don't get it either. > Not to mention Gene Hackman! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 12:00:51 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: REAP - Talcy Malcy On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 11:21 AM, craigie* wrote: > > http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/news/malcolm-mclaren-dies-aged-64-1939621.html > > So I guess Johnny will be throwing a party... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 12:04:28 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: TC is right On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 11:59 AM, kevin studyvin wrote: > > Not to mention Gene Hackman! > Yes, but buried annoyingly at the end of the record amongst some other rather off-putting effluvia. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 14:28:31 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: a quiz and a reprise So which claim is more against Feg orthodoxy? * Me saying DECaY is pantheon-quality. * Rex saying that FEGMANIA! is a mixed bag. As for the age-old RESPECT/"Wafflehead" issue, my problem isn't that "Wafflehead" exists or was released. My problem is that it's closing an otherwise excellent album rather than living its life in its proper habitat: on a CD-5 as a non-album track, and/or on an odds 'n' sods comp. Substitute "Bright Fresh Flower" and I have no problem elevating RESPECT to primo Hitchcock status. And *that* being said, RESPECT is still a bit disappointing to anyone who saw the 1992 Egyptians tour where much of it was played live. Those shows set expectations quite high, and the studio takes, however good, just didn't live up to the way the songs were played during those shows. So I think that factors into many folks' opinions here. later, Miles - -- over a year of feeling guilty about not blogging enough! http://readingpronunciation.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 12:35:52 -0700 From: Jason Brown Subject: Re: TC is right >> Not to mention Gene Hackman! > Yes, but buried annoyingly at the end of the record amongst some > other rather off-putting effluvia. does anyone have a clean MP3 of just the gene Hackman part of that track? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 20:02:33 +0000 From: Steve Sonoras Subject: RE: a quiz and a reprise "So which claim is more against Feg orthodoxy? * Me saying DECaY is pantheon-quality. * Rex saying that FEGMANIA! is a mixed bag. As for the age-old RESPECT/"Wafflehead" issue, my problem isn't that "Wafflehead" exists or was released. My problem is that it's closing an otherwise excellent album rather than living its life in its proper habitat: on a CD-5 as a non-album track, and/or on an odds 'n' sods comp. Substitute "Bright Fresh Flower" and I have no problem elevating RESPECT to primo Hitchcock status. And *that* being said, RESPECT is still a bit disappointing to anyone who saw the 1992 Egyptians tour where much of it was played live. Those shows set expectations quite high, and the studio takes, however good, just didn't live up to the way the songs were played during those shows. So I think that factors into many folks' opinions here. later, Miles" I wasn't old enough to see the Respect tour, but I must say it's probably my least favorite RH album because of both the production and the inclusion of "Wafflehead," which I think the the "Furry Green Atom Bowl" of the disc. I've only been an RH fan for three years, but maybe some of you older fegs can weigh in on this issue: Is there a single RH album that doesn't leave out several perfect tracks recorded in the same sessions left out in favor of mediocre-to-complete-garbage songs? I mean, Fegmania! might could have seriously benefited from "Dwarfbeat," "Some Body," and the "Bells of Rhymney" cover. Likewise, imagine how great Moss Elixir would have been with "Surfer Ghost" in place of "The Man With a Woman's Shadow?" Or Queen Elvis with "Furry Baby," "Evil Guy," and "The Ruling Class" tacked on (I think those three are all from the same era.) My two other favorite examples: The Rhino version of IODOT is far superior to the original release because of those four extra tracks (that's the way I first heard the album, and I was appalled to find out it wasn't the original tracklisting), and think of the masterpiece RH could have put together if he'd left out 2 or 3 of the filler tracks from his entire V3 output and released one excellent double-LP. I mean, if he's going for a rambling Basement Tapes vibe, he's not going to get it with just 10 tracks per disc, half of which are underdeveloped; If he put those three records together, he'd have not only rave reviews from every outlet imaginable, but he'd be more commercially successful (if only slightly). More importantly, I think his fans (like me) would enjoy listening to his full albums much more, instead of opting for digital playlists that exclude all the junk. Does this guy even know how to structure an album? (Sorry for the sudden, but much-needed venting. Back to listening to Propellor Time.) Steve _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 13:15:26 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: a quiz and a reprise On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Miles Goosens wrote: > > > And *that* being said, RESPECT is still a bit disappointing to anyone > who saw the 1992 Egyptians tour where much of it was played live. > Those shows set expectations quite high, and the studio takes, however > good, just didn't live up to the way the songs were played during > those shows. So I think that factors into many folks' opinions here. Mine for sure. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 14:20:15 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: TC is right On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Jason Brown wrote: > >> Not to mention Gene Hackman! > > Yes, but buried annoyingly at the end of the record amongst some > > other rather off-putting effluvia. > > does anyone have a clean MP3 of just the gene Hackman part of that track? > Ayup. http://www.cinemelon.com/files/18%20(Don't%20Talk%20To%20Me%20About)%20Gene%20Hackman.mp3 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 10:12:58 +1200 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Reap Malcolm McLaren, 62 James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 10:15:25 +1200 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: album streak and album closers > > I also think these three records have three of his best album closers, >> in "NY Doll," "Goodnight Oslo," and "Evolove." "NY Doll" seems to me >> unique in Robyn's canon. I can't think of any other song of his that's >> biographical (maybe there are some, but not biographies of well-known >> figures?) >> > >"The Wreck of the Arthur Lee" reputedly, "The man who invented himself" would also count James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 23:18:25 +0100 (GMT+01:00) From: "edwardofsim@tiscali.co.uk" Subject: Re: clunkers tclark@mac.com said: >On Apr 5, 2010, at 10:22 PM, edwardofsim@tiscali.co.uk wrote: > >> I'm extremely lukewarm over Moss Elixir (and Mossy Liquor). Slightly >> warmer on Jewells / Star, but only slightly. > >I don't understand all the hating on Sophia. "Mexican God"? "Cheese Alarm"? "Viva Seatac"? "Sally Was A Legend"? >And Bram has some equally great tracks, srsly. Well, I wasn't really "hating," just said that I was a bit lukewarm on it, although liked it better than Moss/Mossy. I really like the first three songs you mention. "Sally Was A Legend," while kind of cool, sounds too much like a retread of "Flesh Cartoons" to me for some reason. That album, for me, starts off great, but slopes off pretty seriously about halfway through. But I do like it, just not a lot. For me, the only albums that really do, like, almost nothing for me are, as I said, Luxor and Spooked. And my cool friends have indicated Spooked is really good, so I'm still waiting to discover so myself. Luxor is, like, the only Hitchcock album that has several songs that I just plain don't find interesting at all. In fact, only a couple (off the top of my head, Ant Corridor and Idonia) that sort of "do it" for me. Then again, from what Rex said before, maybe I'm wrong and it wasn't a "real" album, but just a compilation, in which case I don't have to evaluate it in the same light. Oh well, who asked me? Oh, and sacreligiously I suppose, I don't rate 'Eye' anywhere near as highly as most fegs seem to. Then again, I'm also the odd one out in rating 'Respect' so highly. peace, Edward ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 19:20:10 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: a quiz and a reprise Miles says: > So which claim is more against Feg orthodoxy? > > * Me saying DECaY is pantheon-quality. > * Rex saying that FEGMANIA! is a mixed bag. i would say the latter as i think the love for "fegmania!" around here is larger than the hate for "groovy decay." i should have jumped in sooner to declare my love for "groovy decay." i can see it's not getting the love it deserves. come on folks: night ride to trinidad! fifty-two stations! young people scream! the rain! and so on! i have a lot of love for that album because it has "america" on it - this was the first RH song i really fell for, off a rented copy of the "gotta let this hen out" VHS. the only song i'm not all that crazy about is "how do you work this thing?" and at least it's amusing. plus, it's called "groovy decay". and i love the cover photograph. > As for the age-old RESPECT/"Wafflehead" issue, my problem isn't that > "Wafflehead" exists or was released. My problem is that it's closing > an otherwise excellent album rather than living its life in its proper > habitat: on a CD-5 as a non-album track, and/or on an odds 'n' sods > comp. Substitute "Bright Fresh Flower" and I have no problem > elevating RESPECT to primo Hitchcock status. okay, i expected the blahs for "groovy decay", but i don't get the lack of love of "respect." miles has a point here. but the fegs have had over 15 years to get over "wafflehead"; please do so. i think i missed that tour - that was back before i realized i could see robyn every time he came to town and also i wasn't on even the announcement list at that point. but, still, there's some weird gap in my robyn shows between ~1992 and ~1995. anyway, i've stated my opinion on "wafflehead": http://www.fegmania.org/archives/fegmaniax/v17.n078 i'm a fan of "jewels for sophia", except i don't like cheese really, and i don't like "the cheese alarm" really either. it's too silly for track two, IMO. i LOVE "nasa clapping"; i think it's got one of robyn's most heart-achingly gorgeous lines: "buzz aldrin took me by the hand and said one day that'd i'd be rich. i think he meant that i was going to be your lover in my lifetime." (or however it goes.) that line still makes my heart fall a bit. and you could convince it's no love song to NASA, but i choose to think of it a bit that way because the image of the men in houston cheering when things come back the right way warms my heart. "i thought i heard NASA clapping" is just lovely, and it works both literally and metaphorically. BTW, i'm still think of my favourite three-album streak, and having trouble because it has to contain either IODOT or "eye"; i probably will go with IODOT. i'm noticing one album i can't fit in the three-streak however it comes up - "moss elixir" - even though i've come to care for it much, much more than when it came it. sometimes i even love it. so i'm starting to have the sneaking suspicion it's because the cover art *sucks*. xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 19:27:53 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: a quiz and a reprise lep says: i was going to post to jeff 2fs that i wasn't seeing double posts of his. did that clear up, if it was, indeed, a problem? xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 17:42:47 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: clunkers > Luxor is, like, the only Hitchcock album that has several songs > that I just plain don't find interesting at all. In fact, only a couple > (off the top of my head, Ant Corridor and Idonia) that sort of "do it" > for me. Then again, from what Rex said before, maybe I'm wrong and it > wasn't a "real" album, but just a compilation, in which case I don't > have to evaluate it in the same light. > > Seem to recall it was something he put together to give away to attendees at his 50th birthday bash - on the subject of which, does anybody know if any recording exists of the awesome Alan Rickman's reading at that event? - and then it sort of gravitated into the regular catalogue in spite of being, let's say, a little on the light side. > Oh well, who asked me? > > Oh, and sacreligiously I suppose, I don't rate 'Eye' anywhere near as > highly as most fegs seem to. Then again, I'm also the odd one out in > rating 'Respect' so highly. > > Also not a huge fan of Eye, mostly because "Agony Of Pleasure" grates on my nerves like nobody's biznizzle. And I could do without that "Clicquot" thing too. But yes, I like Respect lots in spite of feeling like the whole is less than the sum of the parts. Isis knows I wouldn't want to be without "Serpent At the Gates Of Wisdom,' among others. And I keep coming back to Andy's bass playing with the Egyptians, which is some of the most fluid, melodic work I know and it's time he got some love for that, and it's massively on display on Respect. (And I'm right in line with whoever praised "Wafflehead" for its Beefheart-iness.) Later / KS ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 17:45:03 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: album streak and album closers > reputedly, "The man who invented himself" would also count > > James > I dunno - sounds too much like White Album-era McCartney pastiche for my money. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 17:50:07 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: a quiz and a reprise On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 4:27 PM, lep wrote: > lep says: > > > > i was going to post to jeff 2fs that i wasn't seeing double posts of > his. did that clear up, if it was, indeed, a problem? > > xo > > -- > "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha > I'm seeing stuff I've posted recently twice too. (Remind anybody else of Catch-22?) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 18:32:14 -0700 From: Subject: Re: album streak and album closers Yes, I suppose that's about as close as anything else. But "NY Doll" is pretty clearly a biographical portrait of Arthur Kane. "Wreck of the Arthur Lee" is definitely a Love/Arthur Lee tribute, but I don't think the song is biographical except in the loosest sense, unless there were missing ships' crews and avenger planes and bumping boys in Arthur Lee's life that I don't know about. Or maybe those are all highly metaphorical examples from Lee's life. I've always heard that song as a love song to the music of the sixties, I guess. Spine >Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 00:11:16 -0500 >From: 2fs >Subject: Re: album streak and album closers > >On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 9:18 PM, wrote: > >> >> I also think these three records have three of his best album closers, >> in "NY Doll," "Goodnight Oslo," and "Evolove." "NY Doll" seems to me >> unique in Robyn's canon. I can't think of any other song of his that's >> biographical (maybe there are some, but not biographies of well-known >> figures?) >> > >"The Wreck of the Arthur Lee" > >- -- >....Jeff Norman > >The Architectural Dance Society >http://spanghew.wordpress.com

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