From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V18 #16 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, January 26 2010 Volume 18 : Number 016 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Just a thought...0% Whedonverse [2fs ] Fwd: REAP [michaeljbachman@comcast.net] Fwd: Kate McGarrigle [michaeljbachman@comcast.net] Even more off-topic than usual [kevin studyvin ] Re: Just a thought...0% Whedonverse [Tom Clark ] Re: Just a thought...0% Whedonverse [2fs ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V18 #15 [James Dignan ] REAP and read the comments - pretty funny stuff [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] truth or dare... [lep ] Re: truth or dare... [vivien lyon ] Re: truth or dare... [Rex ] Re: truth or dare... [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: truth or dare... [kevin studyvin ] Re: truth or dare... [cgalbraith ] Vaguely Buffy-ish note [kevin studyvin ] Re: truth or dare... ["craigie*" ] Re: truth or dare... ["Jeff B" ] The I-didn't-read game [Jeremy Osner ] Re: Vaguely Buffy-ish note [Sumiko Keay ] Re: truth or dare... [Christopher Gross ] Re: truth or dare... [Randall Riebe ] Re: The I-didn't-read game [Randall Riebe ] Aw, fuck... ["Nectar At Any Cost!" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 10:32:43 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Just a thought...0% Whedonverse On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:53 AM, cgalbraith wrote: > > Many of the photos of Dylan find him in a POLKA DOT shirt... > > Coincidence??? > > Probably not, Robyn being a known Dylan fanatic... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 17:18:04 +0000 (UTC) From: michaeljbachman@comcast.net Subject: Fwd: REAP - ----- hwycdrrev@aol.com wrote: > From: hwycdrrev@aol.com > To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org > Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:41:29 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: REAP > > Very sad - saw Kate & Anna a couple of times in the early 1980s - > great shows . . . > B > I believe after the success of their (brilliant) first album, > Warner Brothers wanted to mold the sisters into their image > (wear make-up, etc.) > They refused, and WB stopped promoting them. > Bob Dylan Examiner B Column > http://www.examiner.com/x-21829-Bob-Dylan-Examiner > In a B message dated 1/19/2010 11:29:48 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > kstudyvin@gmail.com B writes: > > Kate McGarrigle, 63 years old: > > B http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/jan/19/kate-mcgarrigle I had their first album on vinyl and disc for years and agree it's brilliant. I just ordered a CD of Kate and Anna's second album Dancer with Bruised Knees.B I'veB had it and their French Record on vinyl since the early 80's, but I'veB yet toB repair my Dual 701 turntable. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 17:37:48 +0000 (UTC) From: michaeljbachman@comcast.net Subject: Fwd: Kate McGarrigle - ----- hssmrg@bath.ac.uk wrote: > From: hssmrg@bath.ac.uk > To: fegmaniax@smoe.org > Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 5:56:38 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Kate McGarrigle > > > Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:41:29 EST > > From: hwycdrrev@aol.com > > Subject: Re: REAP > > Very sad - saw Kate & Anna a couple of times in the early 1980s - > > great shows . . . > > I believe after the success of their (brilliant) first album, > > Warner Brothers wanted to mold the sisters into their image > > (wear make-up, etc.) > > They refused, and WB stopped promoting them. > > In a B message dated 1/19/2010 11:29:48 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > kstudyvin@gmail.com B writes: > > Kate McGarrigle, 63 years old: > B B > * Bad news indeed - I wondered what had happened to them after the B > 'Dancer with Bruised Knees' record. Don't these corporations recognise B > that individuality is what makes an act sell? > I saw the McGarrigle Sisters once in the 70s when they were performing B > that first album with the excellent Phillip Catherine on guitar and a B > fine band. > The only other time I saw Kate, she was playing the piano at the B > Barbican Syd tribute concert with her daughter Martha and niece (?) B > singing "See Emily Play". > - Mike Godwin > n.p. Anna's 'Heart Like a Wheel' Mike, I can't sp eak for their third album Pronto Monto as I don't own it, but Kate and Anna's fourth album French Record was very decent as I recall. It's out of print, but you can still find some available new and used ones. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 10:32:48 -0800 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Even more off-topic than usual In re: certain recent transmissions about the smoking. Finished Richard Kadrey's kick-ass Sandman Slim very early this AM, and wanted to note two wonderful observations I came across there: "If anyone ever asks you what a desperate man looks like, you can tell them he looks like this: He's down on his hands and knees, digging through the ruins of his exploded bedroom, looking for a cigarette." And upon Lucifer (yes, that Lucifer) offering a box of Maledictions, a smoke only available in Hell: "I tap a Malediction out of the box, fire it up, and puff. It tastes like a tire fire in a candy factory next door to a strip club. The best cigarettes in the universe." And this is why you kids should avoid the cigarettes, because I haven't had one since 1978 and there's not a week goes by that I don't feel like firing one up /KS, who woke up with Ole Tarantula in his head. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 11:07:45 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Just a thought...0% Whedonverse Good call, Carrie! I guess Robyn felt his dots needed to be bigger though. :) Relatedly, I recently got Jim Marshall's "Trust" book. Great shots of some of music's greats, plus his commentary is sometimes hilarious. http://www.marshallphoto.com/books/trust - -tc On Jan 24, 2010, at 10:53 PM, cgalbraith wrote: > So I took on this freelance job - binding a limited edition of a > book by the photographer Charles Gatewood. The photos are of Bob > Dylan on a European tour circa mid-60s. These photos have never been > seen before so the book is significant. Interestingly enough, while > I printed yet another copy of the book tonight, I noticed something > else significant (well, to us Fegs only perhaps)... > > Many of the photos of Dylan find him in a POLKA DOT shirt... > > Coincidence??? > > Just thinking... > - c > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 14:59:16 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Just a thought...0% Whedonverse On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Tom Clark wrote: > Good call, Carrie! I guess Robyn felt his dots needed to be bigger though. > :) > This is a common misperception. In fact, both Dylan and Robyn are wearing white shirts with black anti-dots - - only Dylan's are larger anti-dots. > > > On Jan 24, 2010, at 10:53 PM, cgalbraith wrote: > > >> Many of the photos of Dylan find him in a POLKA DOT shirt... >> >> Coincidence??? >> >> >> > - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 11:38:44 +1300 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V18 #15 >Yeah, between Peter Buck, Matthew Selgman, Bill Rieflin, (effective >the release of Propeller Time) Johnny Marr, and a couple other >people, you almost be more hard pressed to find anyone much further >than 3 steps from Robyn. Maybe Beyonce. Hey, even I'm only three degrees away (via Martin Phillipps to Dave Mattacks to RH)* You can get to just about anyone from Dave Mattacks in three steps - he's one of those music nodes, like Brian Eno, Tony Levin, and Danny Thompson. James *Four if you count actually playing music together, since I've never played music with MP (unless appearing on the same bill counts). - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:24:44 EST From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: REAP and read the comments - pretty funny stuff _http://www.spinner.com/2010/01/25/rocksteady-pioneer-lynn-taitt-dead-at-75/ ?icid=main|htmlws-main-w|dl2|link6|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spinner.com%2F2010%2F01% 2F25%2Frocksteady-pioneer-lynn-taitt-dead-at-75%2F_ (http://www.spinner.com/2010/01/25/rocksteady-pioneer-lynn-taitt-dead-at-75/?icid=main|htmlws-main-w |dl2|link6|http://www.spinner.com/2010/01/25/rocksteady-pioneer-lynn-taitt-d ead-at-75/) Bob Dylan Examiner Column _http://www.examiner.com/x-21829-Bob-Dylan-Examiner_ (http://www.examiner.com/x-21829-Bob-Dylan-Examiner) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 23:47:19 -0500 From: lep Subject: truth or dare... hi fegList, okay, i lied about the "dare" part. but things are kind of slow around here, and here's my attempt to liven things up (or bring things to a grinding halt, we'll see. three questions to answer, with an idea towards embarrassing yourself, or just admitting not being well-round. or whatever. 1) a book you haven't read 2) a record you haven't listened to 3) a movie you haven't seen i'll get the party started: 1) "man's search for meaning" by viktor frankl (this book is actually what brought about this post.) 2) "blue" by joni mitchell. and, to be honest, lall the other joni mitchell albums as well. 3) "do the right thing" (i could have said "giant" but i thought DTRT would be more "impressive" to the list.) i'm not actually embarrassed that i haven't listened to joni mitchell - - the embarrassing part (because it's *so* stupid) is that the reason i haven't listened to her is that i'm afraid i would like her. xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:19:30 -0800 From: vivien lyon Subject: Re: truth or dare... > 1) a book you haven't read > 2) a record you haven't listened to > 3) a movie you haven't seen > > 1. Ulysses (though I have tried, and that's even more embarrassing) 2. I've never listened to an entire John Lennon record. 3. Citizen Kane. But then, the ending's been spoiled for, like, ever. > > i'm not actually embarrassed that i haven't listened to joni mitchell > - the embarrassing part (because it's *so* stupid) is that the reason > i haven't listened to her is that i'm afraid i would like her. > > No, you wouldn't. Don't fret. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 23:13:53 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: truth or dare... On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 9:19 PM, vivien lyon wrote: > > 1) a book you haven't read > > 2) a record you haven't listened to > > 3) a movie you haven't seen > 1) The Bell Jar. 2) That one Zappa record. 3) Fast Times at Ridgemont High. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 09:58:56 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: truth or dare... - --On 25. Januar 2010 23:47:19 -0500 lep wrote: > 1) "man's search for meaning" by viktor frankl (this book is actually > what brought about this post.) I've never even heard of that (that I recall), which is presumably worse? > 2) "blue" by joni mitchell. and, to be honest, lall the other joni > mitchell albums as well. > 3) "do the right thing" (i could have said "giant" but i thought DTRT > would be more "impressive" to the list.) > > i'm not actually embarrassed that i haven't listened to joni mitchell > - the embarrassing part (because it's *so* stupid) is that the reason > i haven't listened to her is that i'm afraid i would like her. I'd say you're missing out on both 2) and 3). I'm not the greatest Joni Mitchell fan, and can only stand to listen to her voice for so long, but "Blue" in particular is a lovely record. My answers: 1) A tie between "Ulysses" and "Gravity's Rainbow", both of which I tried to read but couldn't finish 2) "The Band" or anything else by them. 3) "Schindler's List" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:04:02 -0800 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: truth or dare... > three questions to answer, with an idea towards embarrassing yourself, > or just admitting not being well-round. or whatever. > > 1) a book you haven't read Maximus by Charles Olson > 2) a record you haven't listened to > In the Wee Small Hours by Frank Sinatra > 3) a movie you haven't seen > Intolerance by DW Griffith > > i'll get the party started: > > 1) "man's search for meaning" by viktor frankl (this book is actually > what brought about this post.) > 2) "blue" by joni mitchell. and, to be honest, lall the other joni > mitchell albums as well. > 3) "do the right thing" (i could have said "giant" but i thought DTRT > would be more "impressive" to the list.) > > i'm not actually embarrassed that i haven't listened to joni mitchell > - the embarrassing part (because it's *so* stupid) is that the reason > i haven't listened to her is that i'm afraid i would like her. > Naww, Mitchell's OK. An ex-girlfriend's brother gave me a pile of LPs he didn't want to keep around once and the only ones I still have are Blue, and Live/Evil by Miles Davis. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:49:23 -0800 From: cgalbraith Subject: Re: truth or dare... On Jan 25, 2010, at 8:47 PM, lep wrote: > > 1) a book you haven't read > 2) a record you haven't listened to > 3) a movie you haven't seen > 1. Never read any Charles Dickens 2. I've never actually listened to any Allman Brothers (or Neutral Milk Hotel) 3. Any movie that stars Tom Hanks (shiver) > 2) "blue" by joni mitchell. and, to be honest, lall the other joni > mitchell albums as well. Blue is a lovely album. My favorite of hers is still Heijera. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 03:33:38 -0800 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Vaguely Buffy-ish note Watching Chuck tonite I snapped to attention in one scene when Adam Baldwin's character, in the middle of a confrontation, muttered "Bored now," and stalked off. 'Cause you know, when Willow used to say that it meant trouble for somebody. Certainly seems like once an actor's been involved with Whedon's world they never seem to entirely leave... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 12:12:49 +0000 From: "craigie*" Subject: Re: truth or dare... > On Jan 25, 2010, at 8:47 PM, lep wrote: > >> >> 1) a book you haven't read Too many to choose just one >> 2) a record you haven't listened to Too many to choose just one >> 3) a movie you haven't seen Too many to choose just one. I should get out more. And read more books. And listen to more records... c* - -- first things first, but not necessarily in that order... I like my girls to be the same as my records - independent, attractively packaged and in black vinyl (if at all possible)... Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc (the motto of the Addams Family: "We gladly feast on those who would subdue us") ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 06:38:35 -0700 From: "Jeff B" Subject: Re: truth or dare... 1) Any Stephen King 2) Lady Gaga (despite the neo-glam pretentions) 3) Freud (starring Montgomery Clift, directed by John Huston) I still like Mitchell's The Hissing of Summer Lawns. My sisters were big fans, so I went the way of Brit-rock. When Joni got too jazzy for them I started liking her. Jeff B. > hi fegList, > > okay, i lied about the "dare" part. but things are kind of slow > around here, and here's my attempt to liven things up (or bring things > to a grinding halt, we'll see. > > three questions to answer, with an idea towards embarrassing yourself, > or just admitting not being well-round. or whatever. > > 1) a book you haven't read > 2) a record you haven't listened to > 3) a movie you haven't seen > > i'll get the party started: > > 1) "man's search for meaning" by viktor frankl (this book is actually > what brought about this post.) > 2) "blue" by joni mitchell. and, to be honest, lall the other joni > mitchell albums as well. > 3) "do the right thing" (i could have said "giant" but i thought DTRT > would be more "impressive" to the list.) > > i'm not actually embarrassed that i haven't listened to joni mitchell > - the embarrassing part (because it's *so* stupid) is that the reason > i haven't listened to her is that i'm afraid i would like her. > > xo > > -- > "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the > buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 09:04:43 -0500 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: The I-didn't-read game I didn't read Crime and Punishment, or The Idiot, or Karamazov. Have I read anything by Dostoyevsky? I sort of think I have not, beyond excerpts. I didn't read Madame Bovary, In Search of Lost Time, or The Red and the Black. In general my acquaintance with the literatures of Russia and of France is way too limited. I did not listen to *any album by David Bowie *any record by The Fall that is not LATWT *anything by Gang of Four that is not Entertainment! *also, have omitted to listen to certain important sides by musical idols of mine, e.g. *Another Side of Bob Dylan, *Groovy Decoy (is that even the correct title?), *The White Album (have listened to just about all the tracks of this record though), *The Wall (ditto, and I watched the movie many times over.) I did not watch Apocalypse Now -- lots of other movies too, this is the one that comes to mind right now. J ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 08:25:14 -0600 From: Sumiko Keay Subject: Re: Vaguely Buffy-ish note Hee. I caught that. . . but I didn't catch a Manchurian Candidate reference that many seemed to have? Did you? And if so, what was it? (I haven't watched the Manchurian Candidate in years.) Sumi On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 5:33 AM, kevin studyvin wrote: > Watching Chuck tonite I snapped to attention in one scene when Adam > Baldwin's character, in the middle of a confrontation, muttered "Bored now," > and stalked off. 'Cause you know, when Willow used to say that it meant > trouble for somebody. > > Certainly seems like once an actor's been involved with Whedon's world they > never seem to entirely leave... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 10:26:44 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: truth or dare... On Mon, 25 Jan 2010, lep wrote: > three questions to answer, with an idea towards embarrassing yourself, > or just admitting not being well-round. or whatever. > > 1) a book you haven't read _War and Peace_. Embarrassing since I studied Russian history and have read a good number of fat 19th century Russian novels. Just not the biggie. > 2) a record you haven't listened to Bob Dylan's _Blood on the Tracks_. I've probably heard some of the songs without realizing what album they were on, but that just proves that I don't know the album at all. For the most part my Dylan knowledge is limited to 1969 and earlier. > 3) a movie you haven't seen _Wings of Desire_ (_Der Himmel uber Berlin_). It's been on my list for years, but somehow I just haven't gotten around to it. I guess it's a movie I have such high hopes for that I want to save it for when I'm in just the right mood to apreciate it fully. Or maybe I'm afraid that I've already ruined it for myself through excessively high expectations. Or something. Currently #162 on my Netflix queue. - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 08:21:35 -0800 (PST) From: Randall Riebe Subject: Re: truth or dare... 1) a book you haven't read "The Illiad" ---Is this a prequil to "The Odyssy" or the other way around? 2) a record you haven't listened to Iron Maiden-Seventh Son of a Seventh Son----ACOUSTIC GUITAR???? I stopped listening after that. 3) a movie you haven't seen It was "The Godfather" until 3 months ago. I'll go with "The Big Lebowski" Vince ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 08:15:21 -0800 (PST) From: Randall Riebe Subject: Re: The I-didn't-read game From: Jeremy Osner I didn't read Crime and Punishment, or The Idiot, or Karamazov. ******************************************************** Crime and Punishment is thoroughly entertaining, even hilarious at times. If you can stand the authors old tricks of introducing a ton of characters with *funny* names, and each of those characters with nicknames, you will be rewarded. The Idiot had a plot that had me interested but, well, I got too lazy trying to memorize all the characters and their backgrounds. The recollection by the title character of the woman with consumption in the small town he was living in is some of the best literature I've read. (errr, did that sentence make any sense?) Vince *Up The Irons* the Vincester ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 09:22:58 -0800 From: "Nectar At Any Cost!" Subject: Aw, fuck... *finally* getting around to listening to *Live At Reading*. might well be my favourite live album ever -- and i frickin' *love* live albums. sooooooo difficult to listen to, though. seriously, i'm on the verge of tears right now. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V18 #16 *******************************