From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V17 #322 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Sunday, January 3 2010 Volume 17 : Number 322 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Because I just know you care [lep ] Re: Because I just know you care [kevin studyvin ] Re: SECRET question to Chris Gross (100% Dollhouse) [Christopher Gross ] Re: Article - Cohen's "Hallalujah" [kevin studyvin ] Re: Because I just know you care [kevin studyvin ] Re: Fwd: Because I just know you care [Jeff Margrave ] Re: Article - Cohen's "Hallalujah" [kevin studyvin ] Re: Because I just know you care ["Nectar At Any Cost!" ] We can sleep in lava tubes [Tom Clark ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 00:58:43 -0500 From: lep Subject: Re: Because I just know you care Of course we care. xo P.S. ...because Ms. Case kicked The Flaming Lips asses. Sorry, guys, Wayne Coyle or Wayne Coyne or whatever the frak his name is highly irritates me. First, is his voice, and second - fifth are complete mysteries as far as the *exact* reasons. However, I know for a fact that the reasoning itself is damn sound. On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Jeff Margrave wrote: > 2009's Baker's Dozen > > 1. Neko Case/Middle Cyclone > 2. The Flaming Lips/Embryonic > 3. Dinosaur Jr./Farm > 4. Jarvis Cocker/Further Complications > 5. St. Vincent/Actor > 6. Patton Oswalt/My Weakness is Strong > 7. Nirvana/Live at Reading > 8. Wilco/Wilco (The Album) > 9. A.C. Newman/Get Guilty > 10. Robyn Hitchcock & The Venus 3/Goodnight Oslo > 11. U2/No Line on the Horizon > 12. Depeche Mode/Sounds of the Universe > 13. Modest Mouse/No One's First and You're Next > > 2000's Baker's Three Dozen* > > 1. Radiohead/Kid A > 2. Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds/Dig, Lazarus, Dig!!! > 3. The New Pornographers/Twin Cinema > 4. Neko Case/Middle Cyclone > 5. Wilco/Yankee Hotel Foxtrot > 6. Pulp/We Love Life > 7. LCD Soundsystem/Sound of Silver > 8. The Minus 5/Down with Wilco > 9. Belle & Sebastian/The Life Pursuit > 10. Modest Mouse/The Moon & Antarctica > 11. TV on the Radio/Dear Science > 12. Wire/Send > 13. The Flaming Lips/Embyonic > 14. Eels/Daisies of the Galaxy > 15. The Futureheads/News and Tributes > 16. Luna/Romantica > 17. 50 Foot Wave/Golden Ocean > 18. Portishead/Third > 19. Spoon/Gimme Fiction > 20. Primal Scream/XTRMNTR > 21. Robert Plant & Alison Krauss/Raising Sand > 22. Dinosaur Jr./Farm > 23. Interpol/Turn on the Bright Lights > 24. Elvis Costello & The Imposters/When I Was Cruel > 25. Solomon Burke/Donb t Give Up on Me > 26. Robyn Hitchcock & The Venus 3/Ole! Tarantula > 27. Lloyd Cole & The Negatives/The Negatives > 28. Echo & The Bunnymen/Flowers > 29. The Postal Service/Give Up > 30. Richard Thompson/2000 Years of Popular Music > 31. John Wesley Harding/Dynablob 4: Swings & Roundabouts > 32. Ted Leo & The Pharmacists/Shake the Sheets > 33. Robert Forster/The Evangelist > 34. Nick Lowe/At My Age > 35. The Twilight Singers/Blackberry Belle > 36. Isabel Campbell & Mark Lanegan/Ballad of the Broken Seas > 37. Bloc Party/Silent Alarm > 38. Flight of the Conchords/Flight of the Conchords > 39. Green Day/American Idiot > > *Limit one album per artist/primarily creative force; thus Twin Cinema at 3 knocks The Slow Wonder solo work from consideration, but not Middle Cyclone since Neko Case "only" sings in The New Pornos. > > "I love how (coffee) makes me feel. It's like my heart is trying to hug my brain!" -- Kenneth Parcell > - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 23:24:11 -0800 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Because I just know you care On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 9:58 PM, lep wrote: > Of course we care. > > xo > > P.S. ...because Ms. Case kicked The Flaming Lips asses. Sorry, guys, > Wayne Coyle or Wayne Coyne or whatever the frak his name is highly > irritates me. First, is his voice, and second - fifth are complete > mysteries as far as the *exact* reasons. However, I know for a fact > that the reasoning itself is damn sound. > > I would respectfully suggest taking a few minutes to watch UFOs At the Zoo. Made a Lips believer out of me. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 09:28:18 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: SECRET question to Chris Gross (100% Dollhouse) On Sat, 2 Jan 2010, lep wrote: > Are you up to date on Dollhouse? > > Can I ask you a conjecture-type question? I am up to date, and I have heard almost nothing about the final episodes, so I'm in the perfect place for conjecture. Go ahead ... but no spoilers! - --Chris "Happy New Year!" the Christer ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 13:35:47 -0500 From: lep Subject: Re: SECRET question to Chris Gross (100% Dollhouse) Christopher Gross says: > On Sat, 2 Jan 2010, lep wrote: > >> Are you up to date on Dollhouse? >> >> Can I ask you a conjecture-type question? > > I am up to date, and I have heard almost nothing about the final episodes, > so I'm in the perfect place for conjecture. Go ahead ... but no spoilers! i'm sure you'll all be weeping in corner, but i decided to take it offlist. there's no spoilers for anyone who's up to date, but i think there's too much spoiler potential for anyone who's not up to date. at any rate, anyone's who's interested, i'll be happy to forward the e-mail i sent to chris, and, you too, can conjecture away. as ever, lauren - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 19:47:04 +0000 (UTC) From: michaeljbachman@comcast.net Subject: Fwd: Because I just know you care Nextdoorland seems to be getting no love . I wonder if it's still B the case that there are a coupleB of tracks on Side Three thatB would haveB made itB a better album that is causing us to downgrade it/forget about it? Michael B. - ----- "lep" wrote: > From: "lep" > To: "a sweet little cupcake...baked by the devil!" > Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2010 12:58:43 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: Because I just know you care > > Of course we care. > xo > P.S. ...because Ms. Case kicked The Flaming Lips asses. B Sorry, guys, > Wayne Coyle or Wayne Coyne or whatever the frak his name is highly > irritates me. B First, is his voice, and second - fifth are complete > mysteries as far as the *exact* reasons. B However, I know for a fact > that the reasoning itself is damn sound. > On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Jeff Margrave wrote: > > 2009's Baker's Dozen > > > > 1. Neko Case/Middle Cyclone > > 2. The Flaming Lips/Embryonic > > 3. Dinosaur Jr./Farm > > 4. Jarvis Cocker/Further Complications > > 5. St. Vincent/Actor > > 6. Patton Oswalt/My Weakness is Strong > > 7. Nirvana/Live at Reading > > 8. Wilco/Wilco (The Album) > > 9. A.C. Newman/Get Guilty > > 10. Robyn Hitchcock & The Venus 3/Goodnight Oslo > > 11. U2/No Line on the Horizon > > 12. Depeche Mode/Sounds of the Universe > > 13. Modest Mouse/No One's First and You're Next > > > > 2000's Baker's Three Dozen* > > > > 1. Radiohead/Kid A > > 2. Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds/Dig, Lazarus, Dig!!! > > 3. The New Pornographers/Twin Cinema > > 4. Neko Case/Middle Cyclone > > 5. Wilco/Yankee Hotel Foxtrot > > 6. Pulp/We Love Life > > 7. LCD Soundsystem/Sound of Silver > > 8. The Minus 5/Down with Wilco > > 9. Belle & Sebastian/The Life Pursuit > > 10. Modest Mouse/The Moon & Antarctica > > 11. TV on the Radio/Dear Science > > 12. Wire/Send > > 13. The Flaming Lips/Embyonic > > 14. Eels/Daisies of the Galaxy > > 15. The Futureheads/News and Tributes > > 16. Luna/Romantica > > 17. 50 Foot Wave/Golden Ocean > > 18. Portishead/Third > > 19. Spoon/Gimme Fiction > > 20. Primal Scream/XTRMNTR > > 21. Robert Plant & Alison Krauss/Raising Sand > > 22. Dinosaur Jr./Farm > > 23. Interpol/Turn on the Bright Lights > > 24. Elvis Costello & The Imposters/When I Was Cruel > > 25. Solomon Burke/Donb t Give Up on Me > > 26. Robyn Hitchcock & The Venus 3/Ole! Tarantula > > 27. Lloyd Cole & The Negatives/The Negatives > > 28. Echo & The Bunnymen/Flowers > > 29. The Postal Service/Give Up > > 30. Richard Thompson/2000 Years of Popular Music > > 31. John Wesley Harding/Dynablob 4: Swings & Roundabouts > > 32. Ted Leo & The Pharmacists/Shake the Sheets > > 33. Robert Forster/The Evangelist > > 34. Nick Lowe/At My Age > > 35. The Twilight Singers/Blackberry Belle > > 36. Isabel Campbell & Mark Lanegan/Ballad of the Broken Seas > > 37. Bloc Party/Silent Alarm > > 38. Flight of the Conchords/Flight of the Conchords > > 39. Green Day/American Idiot > > > > *Limit one album per artist/primarily creative force; thus Twin Cinema at 3 knocks The Slow Wonder solo work from consideration, but not Middle Cyclone since Neko Case "only" sings in The New Pornos. > > > > "I love how (coffee) makes me feel. It's like my heart is trying to hug my brain!" -- Kenneth Parcell > > > -- > "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." B -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 15:27:58 -0500 From: lep Subject: Article - Cohen's "Hallalujah" With thanks to my friend Casey (who should be a Feg, given he's an RH fan *and* an M.L.S.), this is an interesting article on the growing (grown?) popularity of "Hallalujah". If you read the article, make sure to watch the video "sad montage". "It Doesn't Matter Which You Heard": the Curious Cultural Journey of Leonard Cohen's "Hallelujah": http://www.clapclap.org/2007/04/hallelujah.html xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 13:05:38 -0800 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Article - Cohen's "Hallalujah" On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 12:27 PM, lep wrote: > With thanks to my friend Casey (who should be a Feg, given he's an RH > fan *and* an M.L.S.), this is an interesting article on the growing > (grown?) popularity of "Hallalujah". > > If you read the article, make sure to watch the video "sad montage". > > "It Doesn't Matter Which You Heard": the Curious Cultural Journey of > Leonard Cohen's "Hallelujah": > http://www.clapclap.org/2007/04/hallelujah.html > > xo > > Remember Uncle Lou's Take No Prisoners? Somewhere in there he starts snarling about people "fucking studying rock'n'roll." And stuff like this suggests why he might just have been on the right track. I've always like Cale's version best anyway. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 13:08:28 -0800 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Because I just know you care On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 11:47 AM, wrote: > Nextdoorland seems to be getting no love . I wonder if it's still B the > case > that there are a coupleB of tracks on Side Three thatB would haveB made itB > a > better album that is causing us to downgrade it/forget about it? > > > > Michael B. > Never given it lots of play, but fer dang sure "Mr Kennedy" remains a big hit with me. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 13:09:27 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Margrave Subject: Re: Fwd: Because I just know you care wrote: > Nextdoorland seems to be getting no love . I wonder if it's still > the case that there are a couple of tracks on Side Three that > would have made it a better album that is causing us to downgrade > it/forget about it? I just like Tarantula more. I wonder if it's just that it sort of was forgotten in the wake of how much most people really dislike Luxor, it sort of washed away a lot of the good feeling people had about Nextdoorland. "I love how (coffee) makes me feel. It's like my heart is trying to hug my brain!" -- Kenneth Parcell ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 15:40:32 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Article - Cohen's "Hallalujah" On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 3:05 PM, kevin studyvin wrote: > On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 12:27 PM, lep wrote: > > > With thanks to my friend Casey (who should be a Feg, given he's an RH > > fan *and* an M.L.S.), this is an interesting article on the growing > > (grown?) popularity of "Hallalujah". > > > > If you read the article, make sure to watch the video "sad montage". > > > > "It Doesn't Matter Which You Heard": the Curious Cultural Journey of > > Leonard Cohen's "Hallelujah": > > http://www.clapclap.org/2007/04/hallelujah.html > > > > xo > > > > Remember Uncle Lou's Take No Prisoners? Somewhere in there he starts > snarling about people "fucking studying rock'n'roll." And stuff like this > suggests why he might just have been on the right track. > I don't quite get what you're objecting to (unless it's the guy including *his own* cover of the song near the end): it's a history of the song's versions, its alternate lyrics, and its use in TV and movies. Doesn't seem terribly "studying" or pretentious - I mean, he's not saying that when Cale substituted a VI diminished 7th for Cohen's VIm6th chord in the fourth phrase, it demonstrated the always-already subverting of the hegemony's othering aporia or anything. Now someone just has to write an article on exactly when Neutral Milk Hotel's _In the Aeroplane Over the Sea_ became so revered...because in my memory, it was praised, yes, but not as like the soundtrack to Jesus that it's become. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 14:12:47 -0800 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Article - Cohen's "Hallalujah" On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 1:40 PM, 2fs wrote: > On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 3:05 PM, kevin studyvin > wrote: > > > On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 12:27 PM, lep wrote: > > > > > With thanks to my friend Casey (who should be a Feg, given he's an RH > > > fan *and* an M.L.S.), this is an interesting article on the growing > > > (grown?) popularity of "Hallalujah". > > > > > > If you read the article, make sure to watch the video "sad montage". > > > > > > "It Doesn't Matter Which You Heard": the Curious Cultural Journey of > > > Leonard Cohen's "Hallelujah": > > > http://www.clapclap.org/2007/04/hallelujah.html > > > > > > xo > > > > > > Remember Uncle Lou's Take No Prisoners? Somewhere in there he starts > > snarling about people "fucking studying rock'n'roll." And stuff like > this > > suggests why he might just have been on the right track. > > > > > I don't quite get what you're objecting to (unless it's the guy including > *his own* cover of the song near the end): it's a history of the song's > versions, its alternate lyrics, and its use in TV and movies. Doesn't seem > terribly "studying" or pretentious - I mean, he's not saying that when Cale > substituted a VI diminished 7th for Cohen's VIm6th chord in the fourth > phrase, it demonstrated the always-already subverting of the hegemony's > othering aporia or anything. > > Now someone just has to write an article on exactly when Neutral Milk > Hotel's _In the Aeroplane Over the Sea_ became so revered...because in my > memory, it was praised, yes, but not as like the soundtrack to Jesus that > it's become. > Yeah, not really objecting to anything; it just struck me as a little silly. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 16:08:34 -0800 From: "Nectar At Any Cost!" Subject: Re: Because I just know you care *i* care. and may i be permitted another hearty shout-out of the new thea gilmore disc? so fucking good! i'm listening to it multiple times some days, even - -- don't think i've done that since *Aeroplane Over The Sea*. . ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 15:26:28 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: We can sleep in lava tubes http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/space/01/01/moon.lava.hole/index.html - -tc ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V17 #322 ********************************