From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V17 #314 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, December 23 2009 Volume 17 : Number 314 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Online Wallace Short (Short) Story, "All That", 2009 Dec 14 New Yorker [Jeremy Osner ] Re: Online Wallace Short (Short) Story, "All That", 2009 Dec 14 New Yorker [kevin studyvin ] Re: Welcome/Giclee/Accents/3D art [2fs ] Art Gafunkel Was On The Airplane That Crashed?!?! ["Nectar At Any Cost!" ] reap [Stewart Russell ] Re: Art Gafunkel Was On The Airplane That Crashed?!?! [Stewart Russell ] Vegetable nativity [Jeremy Osner ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 07:05:31 -0500 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: Online Wallace Short (Short) Story, "All That", 2009 Dec 14 New Yorker Speaking of short (short) stories, I don't know if I've mentioned this here but I was recently reading Augusto Monterosso's story "The Dinosaur" from his "Complete Works and Other Stories": When he woke up, the dinosaur was still there. is the complete story. Responding in later years to a journalist who asked if that was really long enough to be a short story, Monterosso said no, it was more of a novel. ...Off to take a look at "All That" -- another DFW fiend friend of mine mentioned it the other day, but all he said about it was that it did not seem like it was written by Wallace. J On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 1:36 AM, lep wrote: > This is a lovely story by David Wallace in a recent New Yorker. It's > online, very short, and will break your heart, just a bit: > > http://www.newyorker.com/fiction/features/2009/12/14/091214fi_fiction_wallace?currentPage=all > > xo > > P.S. The issue also contains a very readable, rather junky article on > the Polanski business - which aside from being a fun read on a snowy > day, reminds me that that The New Yorker will forever have the > potential to be a stones' throw away from Vanity Fair**. Although in > theory I mind, in practice my morals fly out the window as I have > access to only one of the two. > > ** the inverse in NOT true, thank the gods. > > > P.P.S. I know I owe a list reply to James - my e-mail muse is not > only not e-mail muse, she's not even get my Christmas shopping done. > Layabout. > > -- > "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 07:18:38 -0500 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: Online Wallace Short (Short) Story, "All That", 2009 Dec 14 New Yorker (I am crushed that Monterroso did not live long enough to be a user of Twitter. He also wrote an essay called "Fecundity": Today I feel well, like a Balzac; I am finishing this line. ) J On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 7:05 AM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > Speaking of short (short) stories, I don't know if I've mentioned this > here but I was recently reading Augusto Monterosso's story "The > Dinosaur" from his "Complete Works and Other Stories": > > When he woke up, the dinosaur was still there. > > is the complete story. Responding in later years to a journalist who > asked if that was really long enough to be a short story, Monterosso > said no, it was more of a novel. > > ...Off to take a look at "All That" -- another DFW fiend friend of > mine mentioned it the other day, but all he said about it was that it > did not seem like it was written by Wallace. > J > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 1:36 AM, lep wrote: >> This is a lovely story by David Wallace in a recent New Yorker. It's >> online, very short, and will break your heart, just a bit: >> >> http://www.newyorker.com/fiction/features/2009/12/14/091214fi_fiction_wallace?currentPage=all >> >> xo >> >> P.S. The issue also contains a very readable, rather junky article on >> the Polanski business - which aside from being a fun read on a snowy >> day, reminds me that that The New Yorker will forever have the >> potential to be a stones' throw away from Vanity Fair**. Although in >> theory I mind, in practice my morals fly out the window as I have >> access to only one of the two. >> >> ** the inverse in NOT true, thank the gods. >> >> >> P.P.S. I know I owe a list reply to James - my e-mail muse is not >> only not e-mail muse, she's not even get my Christmas shopping done. >> Layabout. >> >> -- >> "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:47:32 -0500 From: lep Subject: Re: Online Wallace Short (Short) Story, "All That", 2009 Dec 14 New Yorker Jeremy says: > Speaking of short (short) stories, I don't know if I've mentioned this > here but I was recently reading Augusto Monterosso's story "The > Dinosaur" from his "Complete Works and Other Stories": > > When he woke up, the dinosaur was still there. > > is the complete story. Responding in later years to a journalist who > asked if that was really long enough to be a short story, Monterosso > said no, it was more of a novel. oddly, i read that story the other day. not oddly, it was on your facebook page. the book i have with the shortest stories is called "scars make your body more interesting." i always loved the title of it. i think we read in my high-school aesthetics class and i liked it so much that i bought a copy. > ...Off to take a look at "All That" -- another DFW fiend friend of > mine mentioned it the other day, but all he said about it was that it > did not seem like it was written by Wallace. i find that an odd thing to say, perhaps because when i read it, i felt like i was home again, if just for 3 pages. xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:06:29 -0500 From: lep Subject: Re: Online Wallace Short (Short) Story, "All That", 2009 Dec 14 New Yorker i say: > the book i have with the shortest stories is called "scars make your > body more interesting." i always loved the title of it. i think we > read in my high-school aesthetics class and i liked it so much that i > bought a copy. Here's the entire title story: << Scars Make Your Body More Interesting by Sherril Jaffe They lay by the side of the pool. "How did you get that scar?" Ann asked Emily. Emily explained with a titter of laughter. Then she said, "I have lots of scars. Scars make your body more interesting." Suddenly, Ann found Emily's body terribly interesting. >> This made quite an impression on me, especially after matriculating to my little alternative (read: "hippie") school after 10 years of the public-school straitjacket. xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:13:54 -0500 From: lep Subject: Re: Welcome/Giclee/Accents/3D art James says: >> Hey Steve! Welcome! >> Fegland is a mix of wonderfully interesting folk from all corners of >> the Earth. > > Hey - I resemble that remark! Welcome, Steve, to the land that time forgot. > >> >> And Lauren is right - we talk about film as much as Robyn. > > And maths, and squid, and (sigh) politics occcasionally too. In fact, this > list has been known to discuss everything from placenta to Welsh > >> >> Unless we're talking about Joss Whedon... > > (eyes roll yet again, as they've beeen doing for the last couple of digests) did we scare steve away? i'm *sure* it was the squid, never the math. BTW, i'm enough of an ass to spell "favorite" as "favourite" and "center" as "centre" but i just can't get to "maths". try as i might, i can't delude myself into thinking i can pull it off. BTW, i always turn to whedon when the list is slow. i refuse to lose this place to facebook (i hate change.) >> i don't know what a glicee print** is, but this *is* the greatest >> album cover ever, right? >> http://www.kingsroadmerch.com/anti-records/view/?id=967&cid=60 > > That's giclee, not glicee. It's a process used in fine art print > production, using ink-jet from a digital source. (Carrie's not the only > person working in the arts round here, remember!) my apologies, james. i think of carrie as a graphic artist, and so put her in the "print-knowledge" category of my brain. i think of you as a painter, which may or may not be correct, but, either way, i'll fix the venn diagram in my brain. ...i'll confess that i sometimes to get carrie to come out and play more. > BTW, though I've lived in New Zealand since I was eleven, I still have an > English accent according to everyone here. No doubt if I went back to the UK > I'd sound like a kiwi. As to the type of English acccent, it's a fairly > nondescript south midlands with traces of north London, though mainly a > "blank" accent, due to my mum's RADA-ish "accent free" accent. However, when > i sing loud the London comes out a little more, and if I listen to anyone > with a strong accen tfor too long I have an unfortunate tendency to slip > into a milder form of the accent myself (I've even had a South African ask > me what part of the RSA I come from). The worst, though, is if I listen too > much to someone from London - I slip into the accent and it often lasts for > the rest of the day... you lost me at "English accent". >> actually, for folks that can visual things in their heads, he has some >> very interesting geometry sculptures which he's made, and also some >> other interesting links: >> http://www.georgehart.com/index.html > > Very nice. In my reviewing job I quite often have to review exhibitions by > 3D sculptors. Two of my favourites here in NZ are Neil Dawson and Terry > Stringer. Dawson's work is quite similar to Hart's:he's best known for two > giant geometric forms in public plazas in Wellington > () and Christchurch > (). very interesting. it's that 3rd dimension that always gets to me. xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 07:20:19 -0800 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Online Wallace Short (Short) Story, "All That", 2009 Dec 14 New Yorker On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 6:47 AM, lep wrote: > Jeremy says: > > Speaking of short (short) stories, I don't know if I've mentioned this > > here but I was recently reading Augusto Monterosso's story "The > > Dinosaur" from his "Complete Works and Other Stories": > > > > When he woke up, the dinosaur was still there. > > > > is the complete story. Responding in later years to a journalist who > > asked if that was really long enough to be a short story, Monterosso > > said no, it was more of a novel. > > oddly, i read that story the other day. not oddly, it was on your > facebook page. > > the book i have with the shortest stories is called "scars make your > body more interesting." i always loved the title of it. i think we > read in my high-school aesthetics class and i liked it so much that i > bought a copy. > > > ...Off to take a look at "All That" -- another DFW fiend friend of > > mine mentioned it the other day, but all he said about it was that it > > did not seem like it was written by Wallace. > > i find that an odd thing to say, perhaps because when i read it, i > felt like i was home again, if just for 3 pages. > Jeez, youse guys make me feel so out of touch; it's obviously only a matter of time till I'll be forced to come to terms with the Wallace oeuvre, but there's something about the way his mind works that's just foreign to me - as opposed to, say, your Barthelme. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 07:25:16 -0800 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Online Wallace Short (Short) Story, "All That", 2009 Dec 14 New Yorker On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 7:06 AM, lep wrote: > i say: > > the book i have with the shortest stories is called "scars make your > > body more interesting." i always loved the title of it. i think we > > read in my high-school aesthetics class and i liked it so much that i > > bought a copy. > > Here's the entire title story: > > << > Scars Make Your Body More Interesting > by Sherril Jaffe > > They lay by the side of the pool. "How did you get that scar?" Ann > asked Emily. Emily explained with a titter of laughter. Then she > said, "I have lots of scars. Scars make your body more interesting." > Suddenly, Ann found Emily's body terribly interesting. > >> > > This made quite an impression on me, especially after matriculating to > my little alternative (read: "hippie") school after 10 years of the > public-school straitjacket. Aaaaand now I have to read that. Damn you, Lauren! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 07:47:16 -0800 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Welcome/Giclee/Accents/3D art > > And maths, and squid, and (sigh) politics occcasionally too. In fact, > this > > list has been known to discuss everything from placenta to Welsh > > > >> > >> Unless we're talking about Joss Whedon > Speaking of which they repeated the Halloween episode of Castle last nite (because hey, what's more Christmasey than vampires?) and I seemed to be catching more whedoneverse references than I did the first go-round...anybody else notice that? > did we scare steve away? i'm *sure* it was the squid, never the math. > > BTW, i'm enough of an ass to spell "favorite" as "favourite" and > "center" as "centre" but i just can't get to "maths". try as i might, > i can't delude myself into thinking i can pull it off. > Well, you know - there's pretentious and then there's pretentious - you just have to know where to draw the line... > very interesting. it's that 3rd dimension that always gets to me. > Which reminds me of a pointless question that came up recently - who decides which dimension is the third? Is this one of these heirarchies that date back to Aristotle or something? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:37:19 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Welcome/Giclee/Accents/3D art On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 9:47 AM, kevin studyvin wrote: > > > very interesting. it's that 3rd dimension that always gets to me. > > > > Which reminds me of a pointless question that came up recently - who > decides > which dimension is the third? Is this one of these heirarchies that date > back to Aristotle or something? > Wait - which dimension IS the third? I assume, though, that a point has no dimensions because it just is, a line has one dimension because it's an extension of the point in a single direction, a square (say) is two-dimensional because it extends in two directions, and a cube 3D because in 3 directions. So it's not that any particular "dimension" can be singled out as being, say, up or down or left or right, only that the dimensions occur naturally building upon themselves. But I'm obviously not a math guy. Or a maths guy. (I was amused recently to read an interview with an American musician in a British publication in which the copyeditor had clearly done a bit of "native" jiggering: the editor had our American musician referring to "maths"...which I highly doubt he actually did.) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:25:44 -0800 From: "Nectar At Any Cost!" Subject: Art Gafunkel Was On The Airplane That Crashed?!?! . ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:31:05 -0500 From: Stewart Russell Subject: reap Kim Peek, 58. - -- http://scruss.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:33:42 -0500 From: Stewart Russell Subject: Re: Art Gafunkel Was On The Airplane That Crashed?!?! No click on that link. NSFW. NSFA. - -- http://scruss.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:33:53 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Art Gafunkel Was On The Airplane That Crashed?!?! - -- Nectar At Any Cost! is rumored to have mumbled on 22. Dezember 2009 10:25:44 -0800 regarding Art Gafunkel Was On The Airplane That Crashed?!?!: > . So what's that called? Cock-rolling? - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:20:31 -0800 From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: Welcome/Giclee/Accents/3D art On Dec 22, 2009, at 7:47 AM, kevin studyvin wrote: >>> And maths, and squid, and (sigh) politics occcasionally too. In >>> fact, >> this >>> list has been known to discuss everything from placenta to Welsh >>> >>>> >>>> Unless we're talking about Joss Whedon >> > > Speaking of which they repeated the Halloween episode of Castle > last nite > (because hey, what's more Christmasey than vampires?) and I seemed > to be > catching more whedoneverse references than I did the first > go-round...anybody else notice that? I catch Whedonverse references in Bones quite often. Find it funny. A friend of mine makes soap and other body products and sells online as well as at shows. She now has a sign on her table at each fair that simply reads "Would You Like A Treatment?" So far one person has gotten the reference... > >> did we scare steve away? i'm *sure* it was the squid, never the >> math. >> >> BTW, i'm enough of an ass to spell "favorite" as "favourite" and >> "center" as "centre" but i just can't get to "maths". try as i >> might, >> i can't delude myself into thinking i can pull it off. >> > > Well, you know - there's pretentious and then there's pretentious - > you just > have to know where to draw the line... > Kind of like when I see the word "magicks." Makes me say Huh? - - c ps: Steve - come back, we are not ALL squid! *************************************************** Patagonia is what's left, Patagonia, which befits my immense sadness, Patagonia and a trip to the South Seas *************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 09:43:54 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: The Kinks Choral Collection?? Jill, what's the word on this? - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 09:07:29 +0000 From: Rob Subject: Re: The Kinks Choral Collection?? On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > > > Jill, what's the word on this? > -- Waterloo Sunset was performed recently on the Andrew Marr show, I thought it was pretty good. Little bit of an interview then the song is on youtube : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv9-CB4EgsA R ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 09:11:41 -0500 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Vegetable nativity Hey my vegetable friends, have you seen this (or is it "old news")? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUvsSPEFyos J ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V17 #314 ********************************