From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V17 #275 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, October 20 2009 Volume 17 : Number 275 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: fegmaniax-digest V17 #274 [hssmrg@bath.ac.uk] Re: Movie (soundtrack)talk [James Dignan ] Re: Philip Glass [James Dignan ] Fado [Jeremy Osner ] Re: Fado [Jeremy Osner ] my review of Saturday night's Bluebird show [Miles Goosens ] Re: Philip Glass [2fs ] Re: Fado [Carrie Galbraith ] Re: Fado [Jeremy Osner ] Re: Fado [Christopher Gross ] Re: Fado [Jeremy Osner ] aaarrrrggggghhhh [James Dignan ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:12:03 +0100 From: hssmrg@bath.ac.uk Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V17 #274 Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 23:19:04 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Melody idea On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: Incidentally, in all the B*atles hoopla recently, I was reminded again of McCartney's feeling, having written "Yesterday," that he wasn't sure it was really his song - in other words, that he'd unconsciously borrowed from another source. (A karmic debt which, apparently, he passed on to George...) It took years, and a musicologist, to figure out that Paul was more or less correct: the song he was likely thinking of was Ray Charles' "Georgia on My Mind." Here's an article: < http://www.icce.rug.nl/~soundscapes/VOLUME05/Oldsweetsongs.shtml> ...Jeff Norman * That would be Hoagy Carmichael's 'Georgia on my mind', I think, as it says in that interesting article! - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:01:16 +1300 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: Movie (soundtrack)talk >Answering my own question (or one of three), it is "Meglio Stasera" >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZe9w15lOQ4 > >On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > > > So "The Pink Panther"'s soundtrack is just heinously good. Is its theme > > song the most successful movie song? Does anybody know what the >long song is > > that the princess sings about an hour in? > > > > J How did you know that i bought the DVD of that film yesterday? (second-hand, $5) According to the trivia track, "Meglio Stasera (It had better be tonight)" was dubbed by Fran Jefferies. It was later also in the Edwards/Sellers film "The Party" (also, of course, starring Claudine Longet, if you-know-who is still out there lurking), and can be heard being played by the band while Bakshi wrecks the upstairs bathroom. As to the most successful movie song, it's up there, but faces stiff competition from Mancini's other huge hit, "Moon river" (from "Breakfast at Tiffany's", IIRC). James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:06:39 +1300 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: Philip Glass >Jeremy Osner wrote: > > Stewart complained: > >no I didn't - I noted, not complained. I'm guessing about half of this >list is based outside the USA, so the link does not apply. If it had been me, it would have been "complained". I take it you all know the Philip Glass knock-knock joke, BTW? James PS -anyone record that odd Robyn show with "Birds in Perspex" et al? PPS - RIP Ludo - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:47:01 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Fado Anybody got the skinny on this traditional music of Portugal? I just found out about it when I was reading a poem and didn't recognize the word -- listening to some at YouTube and is seems all right. This is pretty garage-y: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbkdtaD5IzI J ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:49:16 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: Fado On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 7:47 PM, I said: > > This is pretty garage-y: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbkdtaD5IzI > And then this is completely different, and is also very, very good: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3WGttZdksg J ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:27:43 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: my review of Saturday night's Bluebird show You've already pretty much gotten it from my post to the list, but here's the two-days-later write-up: http://readingpronunciation.blogspot.com/2009/10/not-expecting-both-perspex-and-lowe.html later, Miles - -- now with blogspot retsin! http://readingpronunciation.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 23:29:08 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V17 #274 On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:12 PM, wrote: > Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 23:19:04 -0500 > From: 2fs > Subject: Re: Melody idea > > > Incidentally, in all the B*atles hoopla recently, I was reminded again of > McCartney's feeling, having written "Yesterday," that he wasn't sure it was > really his song - in other words, that he'd unconsciously borrowed from > another source. (A karmic debt which, apparently, he passed on to > George...) > It took years, and a musicologist, to figure out that Paul was more or less > correct: the song he was likely thinking of was Ray Charles' "Georgia on My > Mind." Here's an article: < > http://www.icce.rug.nl/~soundscapes/VOLUME05/Oldsweetsongs.shtml > > > ...Jeff Norman > > > * That would be Hoagy Carmichael's 'Georgia on my mind', I think, as it > says in that interesting article! > Hmmm - actually, I said "Ray Charles'..." because Paul's chords correspond to Ray's version, not Hoagy's...but yes, Mr. Carmichael was the songwriter. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 23:32:31 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Philip Glass On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 5:06 PM, James Dignan wrote: > Jeremy Osner wrote: >> > Stewart complained: >> >> no I didn't - I noted, not complained. I'm guessing about half of this >> list is based outside the USA, so the link does not apply. >> > > If it had been me, it would have been "complained". I take it you all know > the Philip Glass knock-knock joke, BTW? > > I don't think I actually *know* it...but I'm pretty sure I can guess it... Knock, knock - --who's there? Philip Glass. - --who's there? Philip Glass - --who's there? Philip Glass etc. My own version (not a knock-knock joke): Philip Glass walks into a bar Philip Glass walks into a bar walks into a bar walks into a bar walks into a bar Philip Glass Philip Philip Phil Philip Glass walks Glass walks Glass walks into Philip Glass Philip Glass Philip Glass Glass Glass Glass Glass Philip bar bar bar bar bar bar bar. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 00:07:19 -0700 From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: Fado On Oct 19, 2009, at 4:47 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > Anybody got the skinny on this traditional music of Portugal? I > just found > out about it when I was reading a poem and didn't recognize the > word -- > listening to some at YouTube and is seems all right. This is pretty > garage-y: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbkdtaD5IzI > > J I have a couple of CDs of Fados. Might I recommend Fernando Machado Soares as a good place to start. Lovely voice. - - c ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 09:59:21 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: Fado On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 3:07 AM, Carrie Galbraith wrote: >Might I recommend Fernando Machado Soares as a good place to start. Thanks -- will check him out. J ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:30:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Fado On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, Jeremy Osner wrote: > Anybody got the skinny on this traditional music of Portugal? I just found > out about it when I was reading a poem and didn't recognize the word -- I'm no expert, but if you want background info, check out, yes, fado.com. (The Wikipedia page is woefully incomplete.) One of the biggest names in fado is Amalia Rodrigues (1920-1999). I visited Portugal twice in 2002-2003 to see an American friend who was studying there, and saw stores and restaurants all over the country that had pictures of her up behind the counter -- sometimes enough pictures to constitute a shrine. Imagine walking through an American mall and seeing pictures of Ella Fitzgerald behind half the counters. And my friend's name is Ami, but most of her Portuguese friends had trouble remembering such a foreign name, so they generally called her Amalia instead. So I'd say Amalia Rodrigues is a pretty important figure in fado and Portuguese culture in general. But be warned that she wasn't as garage-y as your link.... - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:01:49 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: Fado Yeah I think my garage-y link was not the genuine article -- a genuine article to be sure but not fado. Most of the other tapes I found searching for Fado had a more lilting, plaintive sound to them... Thanks for the link! J On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Christopher Gross wrote: > On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, Jeremy Osner wrote: > > Anybody got the skinny on this traditional music of Portugal? I just found >> out about it when I was reading a poem and didn't recognize the word -- >> > > I'm no expert, but if you want background info, check out, yes, fado.com. > (The Wikipedia page is woefully incomplete.) One of the biggest names in > fado is Amalia Rodrigues (1920-1999). I visited Portugal twice in 2002-2003 > to see an American friend who was studying there, and saw stores and > restaurants all over the country that had pictures of her up behind the > counter -- sometimes enough pictures to constitute a shrine. Imagine > walking through an American mall and seeing pictures of Ella Fitzgerald > behind half the counters. And my friend's name is Ami, but most of her > Portuguese friends had trouble remembering such a foreign name, so they > generally called her Amalia instead. So I'd say Amalia Rodrigues is a > pretty important figure in fado and Portuguese culture in general. But be > warned that she wasn't as garage-y as your link.... > > > --Chris > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. > chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:22:09 +1300 From: James Dignan Subject: aaarrrrggggghhhh I have had a major earworm on my brain for nearly a week now, and nothing will shift it. Alice introduced me to a track on YouTube which uses autotune. Unlike most uses of autotune (which range from mildly fun nonsense to irritating and grating) this one actually works as a good piece of music - it uses the voices of Carl Sagan and Stephen Hawking and weaves them into a track called "A glorious dawn" (it's at , if anyone's interested) Even the old stand-bys of "Mahna-mahna" and the bass riff from "Seven Nation Army" aren't shifting it... James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V17 #275 ********************************