From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V17 #263 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, October 3 2009 Volume 17 : Number 263 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: that's odd. [2fs ] Re: movie talk: new releases [Jeremy Osner ] re: Binaural Microphones [xx ] Re: that's odd. [lep ] Re: that's odd. [Christopher Gross ] Re: Binaural Microphones [Rex ] Re: Binaural Microphones [Stewart Russell ] Re: movie talk: new releases [Jason Brown ] What's-his-name in Seattle next Saturday [kevin studyvin ] upload your brane [lep ] Re: movie talk: new releases [Jeremy Osner ] Re: upload your brane [2fs ] Re: that's odd. [2fs ] Re: Trapped in my own head; help requested [lep ] Seeking "Best of 00's" band list [Luther Wills-Dudich ] Re: upload your brane [lep ] Re: upload your brane [Jeremy Osner ] dragonfly me [hb ] Re: upload your brane [Tom Clark ] Re: dragonfly me [Rex ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 13:13:57 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: that's odd. On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 12:57 AM, lep wrote: > jeff 2fs says: > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 6:16 PM, lep wrote: > > Anycow: for some reason, whenever I'm asked (like in Facebook quizzes and > > similarly useful & intelligent peaks of Western civilization) which > > celebrities I have a crush on/am allowed a free pass to sleep with/would > > shoot Jodie Foster to impress/etc., I always forget. > > > > So for the convenience of everyone who cares, please begin a list: 1) > Neko > > Case. > > laminated or unlaminated? > > Oh Lauren - I'm rather fond of your just-this-side-of-comprehensible humor. (Which side? Hell - I'm not sure either.) Anyway - what would I do with a laminated Neko Case? - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 15:06:38 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: movie talk: new releases Yep, I am thinking this is going to be a real good movie. (And I don't even hold the Cohens in such high esteem as many of you folks seem to -- but reading about this movie just made all the movie-watching-inclination synapses in my brane start firing off.) In other new releases news, Roy Edoso seems more excited than I would expect him to be about the new Michael Moore film. http://alicublog.blogspot.com/2009_09_27_archive.html#2389716339874304902 J On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 1:52 PM, lep wrote: > limited releases: grr: > http://www.cin-o-matic.com/m.php?MID=2900 > > xo > > > -- > "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 12:20:05 -0700 (PDT) From: xx Subject: re: Binaural Microphones http://www.core-sound.com/products.php They (basically) have 3 different sets. These were really popular back in the day of the Sony D7/D8 DAT recorders. Len Moskowitz is the man behind these, and is a really cool guy. Met him at an AES conference last year. - -g ps - going to see RHV3 tuesday at Spaceland. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 15:36:55 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: that's odd. jeff 2fs says: > On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 12:57 AM, lep wrote: >> laminated or unlaminated? >> >> > Oh Lauren - I'm rather fond of your just-this-side-of-comprehensible humor. > (Which side? Hell - I'm not sure either.) i think i just went too lowbrow. i was actually later-than-usual on the uptake while i debated this precise issue -- i.e. "friends" joke on fegList? charmingly complex or waste of time? > Anyway - what would I do with a laminated Neko Case? good point. xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 15:43:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: that's odd. On Fri, 2 Oct 2009, 2fs wrote: >>> So for the convenience of everyone who cares, please begin a list: 1) >>> Neko Case. >> >> laminated or unlaminated? >> > Oh Lauren - I'm rather fond of your just-this-side-of-comprehensible humor. > (Which side? Hell - I'm not sure either.) > > Anyway - what would I do with a laminated Neko Case? I figured she meant the *list* could be laminated. Just in case you, umm, get something on it. A laminated Neko Case is better than none at all, Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 13:05:13 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Binaural Microphones On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 12:20 PM, xx wrote: > > ps - going to see RHV3 tuesday at Spaceland. > Cool, me too. I'll be the guy who looks like me. So are you taping this one, then? - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:21:08 -0400 From: Stewart Russell Subject: Re: Binaural Microphones There's also Church Audio in Ontario. He makes 'em to order, so maybe not the best if you're in a hurry. On 10/2/09, xx wrote: > http://www.core-sound.com/products.php > > They (basically) have 3 different sets. These were really popular back in > the day of the Sony D7/D8 DAT recorders. > > Len Moskowitz is the man behind these, and is a really cool guy. Met him at > an AES conference last year. > > -g > > > > ps - going to see RHV3 tuesday at Spaceland. > - -- http://scruss.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 14:23:18 -0700 From: Jason Brown Subject: Re: movie talk: new releases I was hoping to catch the new Coen Bros this weekend as well but i guess i have to wait a week. I'll probably catch Whip It and The Invention of Lying as I really can't stand Michael Moore. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 14:28:44 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: What's-his-name in Seattle next Saturday Anybody going? Can't wait to see how the gentrified Croc looks... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:21:33 -0500 (CDT) From: David Witzany Subject: Binary mics By an amazing coincidence, Sound Professionals have the model I use on sale right now: http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/SP-TFB-2 Just add a 9v phantom power supply and you have a really amazing set-up. Playback sounds good through your stereo, but use headphones and you may be startled by the people who were standing near you when you made the recording. It even places sounds behind you fairly well. - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 12:08:38 -0400 From: m swedene Subject: Binaural Mics I am looking to upgrade to a better mic for my edirol recorder. Any thoughts? suggestions? help? - ------------------------------ Dave. David Witzany ...one of nature's witzany@uiuc.edu bounds checkers ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:54:10 -0400 From: lep Subject: upload your brane "By 2040 you will be able to upload your brain...": http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/by-2040-you-will-be-able-to-upload-your-brain-1792555.html "the rapture for geeks" - i'm in. xo p.s. just for fun, contrast comment content and style with that found on youtube. the world will suck a little less. - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 18:49:11 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: movie talk: new releases I apparently do not even hold the brothers in high enough esteem to spell their name correctly. J On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > Yep, I am thinking this is going to be a real good movie. (And I don't even > hold the Cohens in such high esteem as many of you folks seem to -- but > reading about this movie just made all the movie-watching-inclination > synapses in my brane start firing off.) In other new releases news, Roy > Edoso seems more excited than I would expect him to be about the new Michael > Moore film. > http://alicublog.blogspot.com/2009_09_27_archive.html#2389716339874304902 > > J > > > On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 1:52 PM, lep wrote: > >> limited releases: grr: >> http://www.cin-o-matic.com/m.php?MID=2900 >> >> xo >> >> >> -- >> "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the >> buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 18:27:12 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: upload your brane On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 4:54 PM, lep wrote: > "By 2040 you will be able to upload your brain...": > > > http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/by-2040-you-will-be-able-to-upload-your-brain-1792555.html > > "the rapture for geeks" - i'm in. > Hmm... "Did I think of that?" If someone said to you, here, we'll lock you in this room: you'll be able to see, perhaps via remote telemetry, and hear - same thing - but you won't be able to move...would you go for that? Because unless Kurzweil also invents fully ambulatory robots to *house* those uploaded brains, it'd be essentially the same: "you" would be there, conscious, sensing - but immobile, trapped wherever you happened to be. Or let's say someone built the 'bots thing: I suspect people don't realize how much of themselves are connected to their living in a body, their body...and I think someone needs to do a whole lot of thinking about that before thinking this uploading thing is a fantastic idea. But hey - let's say all that stuff is solved. Who gets to upload their brains, and who doesn't? It sure would be a great world, if all us folks here now roaring our way through the planets' finite resources decided that, hey, now we can live forever. And while our hypothetical android selves would not, presumably, need to eat, some sort of power source would be necessary... And of course, not everyone could upload their brains, and particularly at first, only the wealthy would be able to do so. Plus the idea of a very wealthy, powerful elite - which now no longer has to fear the one thing that equalizes them with everyone else, the fact that their bodies can fail, decay, or be killed - is just a tad bit disturbing, no? Technologically, the ability to upload the contents of one's brain would be astonishing. But I cannot help but think that, practically, it would be about the most incredibly bad idea ever. I'd rather appreciate _Dollhouse_ as fiction, thanks. Sure, nothing about *downloading* "brains" back into bodies...but what's the dif, if "you" can live forever? - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 18:31:41 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: that's odd. On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 2:36 PM, lep wrote: > jeff 2fs says: > > On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 12:57 AM, lep wrote: > >> laminated or unlaminated? > >> > >> > > Oh Lauren - I'm rather fond of your just-this-side-of-comprehensible > humor. > > (Which side? Hell - I'm not sure either.) > > i think i just went too lowbrow. i was actually later-than-usual on > the uptake while i debated this precise issue -- i.e. "friends" joke > on fegList? charmingly complex or waste of time? > Ah. Didn't know you worked blue. This would be the time to write "I'll be in my bunk" - right? > > > Anyway - what would I do with a laminated Neko Case? > > good point. > > And I was searching for, like, some other kind of case that might typically be laminated, and figuring maybe the name of that type of case sorta sounds or looks like "Neko" in writing or spoken... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 19:44:27 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: Trapped in my own head; help requested James says: >> On Sep 29, 2009, at 11:47 PM, lep wrote: >> > >> > >> > P.S. Yes, I hate people who use the word "gestalt", too. >> > > > As someone whose main fields of university study were perception and > cognition, I resemble that remark. > > James > > PS - what's your stance on "zeitgeist"? i just recently saw (on the internet, of all places) a joke about a "zeitgeist jar" - every time you say it, you have to pull $1.00 (US) into the jar. it even had a little photograph of said jar. i actually don't mind the use of the words when used within the appropriate fields. i would have to think about it, but, in general, i probably have issues with the general public appropriating technical or even semi-technical terms. i can be a real buzzkill when it comes to the natural evolution of language. although i doubt that stops me from joining in the appropriating. as ever, lauren - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 18:57:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Luther Wills-Dudich Subject: Seeking "Best of 00's" band list Ok, fellow fegs, I have followed your advice. I've ordered: Veckatimest - Grizzly Bear Electric Version - The New Pornographers These Four Walls - We Were Promised Jetpacks What else should I get? I've been really digging Soma FM.com's "Lush" station recently... - -Luther Wills-Dudich ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 20:11:33 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: upload your brane On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 2:54 PM, lep wrote: > "By 2040 you will be able to upload your brain...": > > > http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/by-2040-you-will-be-able-to-upload-your-brain-1792555.html > > "the rapture for geeks" - i'm in. > Kurzweil's a fascinating character with interesting ideas but I can't escape the sense that underneath it all he's crazy as a shithouse rat, so terrified of dying that he's absolutely frantic to find some technological escape clause. One wonders if he's familiar with the adjective "Faustian." And what's with all this stuff about uploading yer brain anyway, when everybody knows the seat of consciousness is the pineal gland - or was that the liver...? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 23:57:56 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: upload your brane jeff 2fs says: > On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 4:54 PM, lep wrote: > >> "By 2040 you will be able to upload your brain...": >> >> >> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/by-2040-you-will-be-able-to-upload-your-brain-1792555.html >> >> "the rapture for geeks" - i'm in. >> > > Hmm... "Did I think of that?" > > If someone said to you, here, we'll lock you in this room: you'll be able to > *downloading* "brains" back into bodies...but what's the dif, if "you" can > live forever? jeff, would like...a treatment? xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 00:57:56 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: upload your brane Kevin asks, > > And what's with all this stuff about uploading yer brain anyway, when > everybody knows the seat of consciousness is the pineal gland - or was that > the liver...? > I am waiting for a device which will allow me to upload my spleen. J ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 11:35:00 -0400 From: hb Subject: dragonfly me I really like Robyn's new insect song, so I transcribed the lyrics: DRAGONFLY ME - Robyn Hitchcock (2009) You - with your fuselage Like a crystal barge If it's done right You - with your rainbow wings Hovering In the sunlight Your cellophane parade Through the everglade Where the nymphs land Laying your eggs on me By the swollen tree And the lymph gland Dragonfly You - with your compound eyes Eating bees and flies Around me Astound me Dragonfly You - with your wings like eyes Caress the skies Above me Flickering serpent's tongue If I was young Would you love me? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 09:46:58 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: upload your brane On Oct 2, 2009, at 8:57 PM, lep wrote: > jeff 2fs says: >> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 4:54 PM, lep wrote: >> >>> "By 2040 you will be able to upload your brain...": >>> >>> >>> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/by-2040-you-will-be-able-to-upload-your-brain-1792555.html >>> >>> "the rapture for geeks" - i'm in. >>> >> >> Hmm... "Did I think of that?" >> >> If someone said to you, here, we'll lock you in this room: you'll >> be able to > > > >> *downloading* "brains" back into bodies...but what's the dif, if >> "you" can >> live forever? > > jeff, would like...a treatment? Red pill or blue? - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 12:00:37 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: dragonfly me On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 8:35 AM, hb wrote: > I really like Robyn's new insect song, so I transcribed the lyrics: > > DRAGONFLY ME - Robyn Hitchcock (2009) > > Hasn't lost a trick, has he? This is great. Every reason to still love the guy. Looking forward to the show. - -Rex ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V17 #263 ********************************