From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V17 #255 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, September 25 2009 Volume 17 : Number 255 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Pre-Order I OFTEN DREAM OF TRAINS IN NEW YORK Limited Edition Deluxe DVD/CD for $29.99. [lep ] Re: Deluxe 2 cd digitally remastered UK reissue of Peggy Suicide with 11 bonus cuts. [2fs ] Re: Disco [kevin studyvin ] Fwd: this is just how dorky I can be [Carrie Galbraith ] Re: this is just how dorky I can be [2fs ] Re: Dollhouse Season 1 [Christopher Gross ] Re: Dollhouse Season 1 [lep ] Re: REAP [kevin studyvin ] Re: REAP [lep ] Re: this is just how dorky I can be ["Laura Golias" ] Re: Dollhouse Season 1 [2fs ] Re: REAP [kevin studyvin ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 21:48:17 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: Pre-Order I OFTEN DREAM OF TRAINS IN NEW YORK Limited Edition Deluxe DVD/CD for $29.99. Here, too. I mean, what's the point of being in a cult if you're not going to purchase all cult material? (At least this one doesn't involve my buying a 17th copy of the studio IODOT -- I *almost* feel like I saved money and not spent it.) xo Michael B. says: > Same here! > > > Michael B. > > > Laura wrote: >>I'm quite psyched about this! I just pre-ordered it. - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:54:28 -0400 From: "Laura Golias" Subject: Re: Deluxe 2 cd digitally remastered UK reissue of Peggy Suicide with 11 bonus cuts. Great, thanks! This is something I going to have to have for sure! : ) Laura Golias ldgolias1@verizon.net ----- Original Message ----- From: michaeljbachman@comcast.net To: Laura Golias Cc: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:50 PM Subject: Re: Deluxe 2 cd digitally remastered UK reissue of Peggy Suicide with 11 bonus cuts. Check out the More Buying Options on this link for the best deals. http://www.amazon.com/Peggy-Suicide-Julian-Cope/dp/B0023P1D5G/ref=sr_1_1?ie =UTF8&s=music&qid=1253839648&sr=1-1 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laura Golias" To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 7:22:58 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: Deluxe 2 cd digitally remastered UK reissue of Peggy Suicide with 11 bonus cuts. Does anyone have anymore information about this; where you can get it, how much it costs, etc.? I'd love to have it; Peggy Suicide is a favorite of mine. : ) Laura Golias ldgolias1@verizon.net > Anyone pick up the UK resissue of Peggy Suicide that just was released > this month? PS is of my favorites from 1991, and it would be nice to read > some feggy reviews on it before I plunk down my money. > > > > Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 19:07:15 -0700 From: "Nectar At Any Cost!" Subject: Disco the commentary's pretty good; nothing earth-shattering. over-all, i'm a bit underwhelmed by the release. criterion are not god, after all. one thing i had not been aware of is that eigeman has written/directed his own movie. *Turn The River*. was most happily shocked to have learned that the library actually owns a copy. unfortunately, it's a piece of shit movie. kinda reminds me of...anybody seen *Highball*? baumbach's *second* movie. pretty lame. the movies aren't really similar at all (though eigeman is in *Highball*) -- just that it reminded me how disappointing it can be when somebody whose work you love drops a turd onto the rug. and for the record, i will fist-fight anybody who claims to love *Kicking And Screaming* more than i do... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 21:35:38 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Deluxe 2 cd digitally remastered UK reissue of Peggy Suicide with 11 bonus cuts. On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Miles Goosens wrote: > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:56 PM, 2fs wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:10 PM, wrote: > > > >> Anyone pick up the UK resissue of Peggy Suicide that just was released > this > >> month? PS isB of my favorites from 1991, and it would beB nice to read > some > >> feggy reviews on it before I plunk downB my money. > > > (Expect to hear from Miles on this...unless he's been drawn terminally > into > > the site of Christina Hendricks' cleavage on the Emmys via YouTube...) > > > Anyway, I think I'm being asked to state my PEGGY SUICIDE dissent. I > don't feel like belaboring it, but PS has never worked for me. I > don't think it's a horrible album. I'm just not interested in it. I > give it another try every year, and I always zone out sometime during > "East Easy Rider" and wake up in time to realize that "Las Vegas > Basement" is a really great song. I wish my opinion had changed over > the last 18 years, but it still leaves me mostly cold. > The reissue, though, comes with bonus tracks and Christina Hendricks. > > Otherwise, I'm a huge fan of Cope's from the Teardrop Explodes through > the '90s, I love all the releases surrounding PEGGY SUICIDE, and I > even think a strong argument could be made for Cope as the best artist > of the '90s. JEHOVAHKILL and 20 MOTHERS are on my short list of the > best of that decade, and Copey still tops my list of "artists I've > never seen live that I'd really, really like to see before one of us > exits the planet." > Although it's hardly the same as seeing him live - and certainly not in a conventional "concert" situation - a while back I posted links to two videos of Cope and band busking an extended (very extended!) version of "Sleeping Gas" on a Liverpool street. What's striking watching the video is the way Cope interacts with the audience - he seems to be having a genuine good time & not just being perfunctory. (I don't have the links handy - but I think "cope sleeping gas" search at YouTube will bring it up...) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:33:54 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Deluxe 2 cd digitally remastered UK reissue of Peggy Suicide with 11 bonus cuts. On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 7:50 PM, wrote: > Check out the More Buying Options on this link for the best deals. > > > http://www.amazon.com/Peggy-Suicide-Julian-Cope/dp/B0023P1D5G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=U > TF8&s=music&qid=1253839648&sr=1-1 > If you don't want to buy from outside vendors and/or used copies, I have always found that buying British CDs via amazon.co.uk is much cheaper for US folks than buying them via amazon.com. Amazon.co.uk is selling this for 10.88 pounds - currently, the British pound is worth about $1.61, so that's about $17.50 US. Ah hell I'ma let you finish but Peggy Suicide's one of the best Julian Cope albums OF ALL TIME. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:43:09 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Deluxe 2 cd digitally remastered UK reissue of Peggy Suicide with 11 bonus cuts. On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 10:33 PM, 2fs wrote: > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 7:50 PM, wrote: > >> Check out the More Buying Options on this link for the best deals. >> >> >> http://www.amazon.com/Peggy-Suicide-Julian-Cope/dp/B0023P1D5G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=U >> TF8&s=music&qid=1253839648&sr=1-1 >> > > If you don't want to buy from outside vendors and/or used copies, I have > always found that buying British CDs via amazon.co.uk is much cheaper for > US folks than buying them via amazon.com. > > Amazon.co.uk is selling this for 10.88 pounds - currently, the British > pound is worth about $1.61, so that's about $17.50 US. > And what the hell - threw in a copy of _Head On/Repossessed_ (which is OOP in the US). (I read a bit of it when my friend Andy had a copy with him a few years ago - quite interesting, in that Cope's pretty honest about the times when he was a bit of a dick. But still - very interesting guy...and not *always* a dick, even when he was typically in orbit way over Planet Chemical all the time back then...) Amazon.co.uk now offers its own currency conversion service - heads up, it's a little bit higher than the conversion rate that comes up when you Google "convert pounds to dollars" - my total came to $40.78 using that rate, but amazon.co.uk offered $43.xx. (that includes all the shipping etc.)Their terms & conditions note that they do include a service fee. I didn't read it all the way through - I imagine there might be some benefit to lock in the current exchange, if things go ballooning suddenly. Aside: I find it fascinating to note the little differences in language - it's not a "shopping cart" but a "basket," they don't send things but "dispatch" them, etc. I feel as if they're likely to include a nice cup of tea with my order. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:45:59 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Pre-Order I OFTEN DREAM OF TRAINS IN NEW YORK Limited Edition Deluxe DVD/CD for $29.99. Ear! Ear! (as Vincent Van Gogh did not say) On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 8:48 PM, lep wrote: > Here, too. I mean, what's the point of being in a cult if you're not > going to purchase all cult material? (At least this one doesn't > involve my buying a 17th copy of the studio IODOT -- I *almost* feel > like I saved money and not spent it.) > > xo > > > Michael B. says: > > Same here! > > > > > > Michael B. > > > > > > Laura wrote: > >>I'm quite psyched about this! I just pre-ordered it. > > -- > "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha > - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:48:03 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Werner Herzog, film school teacher On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Sebastian Hagedorn < Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-koeln.de> wrote: > I suppose some of you might enjoy this: > > < > http://www.avclub.com/articles/herzogs-rogue-film-school-now-accepting-applicatio,33301/ > > > > Memo to self: never watch anything by graduates of that class ;-) > I haven't watched Herzog for years - and so I currently have no opinion on his worth or compatibility with my current film sensibilities - but I do like that last bit about the things one cannot mention... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 23:41:33 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Disco > the commentary's pretty good; nothing earth-shattering. over-all, i'm a > bit underwhelmed by the release. criterion are not god, after all. > > one thing i had not been aware of is that eigeman has written/directed his > own movie. *Turn The River*. was most happily shocked to have learned > that the library actually owns a copy. unfortunately, it's a piece of shit > movie. > > kinda reminds me of...anybody seen *Highball*? baumbach's *second* movie. > pretty lame. the movies aren't really similar at all (though eigeman is in > *Highball*) -- just that it reminded me how disappointing it can be when > somebody whose work you love drops a turd onto the rug. > > and for the record, i will fist-fight anybody who claims to love *Kicking > And Screaming* more than i do... > Not prepared to throw down over it or anything but I'm definitely a fan. Was Turn the River that thing with Famke Janssen? I remember seeing that and liking it at the time but the details escape me... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 01:57:45 -0700 From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Fwd: this is just how dorky I can be Not my thing but from a good friend... And I know there are Prog- Rockers on the list (like I would even know what that was...) Quail??? For the ProgRock folk among us... - - c ps: the site is ugly... Begin forwarded message: > From: Lucija Kordic > Date: September 24, 2009 6:16:53 PM PDT > To: Carrie Galbraith > Subject: this is just how dorky I can be > > A prog rock website! Whhheeeee! > > http://www.progarchives.com/ > > -----o---O---oO---------ooOo----- > Lucija Kordic / Lucyland Carrie Galbraith 707.477.8607 meketone@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 05:46:12 -0400 From: "Laura Golias" Subject: Re: this is just how dorky I can be hmmmmm........so am I a dork if I say I find the website fascinating? Even if I have never heard of most of the artists/bands? Some of the band names are pretty aweome. I never knew there was a band called H.P. Lovecraft. Or that Bobby Beausoleil was a rock guitarist. What, no Charlie Manson? : D Laura Golias (who actually doesn't mind being a dork) ldgolias1@verizon.net > Not my thing but from a good friend... And I know there are Prog- > Rockers on the list (like I would even know what that was...) > > Quail??? > > For the ProgRock folk among us... > - c > ps: the site is ugly... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 06:10:55 -0400 From: "Laura Golias" Subject: REAP Susan Atkins, 61, brain cancer http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jVkQqa3XaBX2IdtMUs8190xxVKs gD9AU8JLG0 Laura Golias ldgolias1@verizon.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 11:42:39 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: this is just how dorky I can be On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 4:46 AM, Laura Golias wrote: > hmmmmm........so am I a dork if I say I find the website fascinating? Even > if I have never heard of most of the artists/bands? Some of the band names > are pretty aweome. I never knew there was a band called H.P. Lovecraft. Or > that Bobby Beausoleil was a rock guitarist. What, no Charlie Manson? > : D > I've visited the Prog Archive a few times - yeah, ugly, but sometimes quite useful! And the reviews are usually at least somewhat thoughtful...not yr "DOOOOD, this RuLzZz!!" crap. Also: two posts in a row from Laura mentioning or alluding to Charlie Manson? Freaky! - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:39:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Dollhouse Season 1 Jeff: > Apparently it was made also because (a) the show owed the network an > episode for some reason - not really clear on that - and (b) it was made > for about half the cost of most the other eps, which demonstrated to the > network that that was possible... I think this all started with the original pilot. The network wasn't happy with it, and Joss eventually decided they were right, so they made an entirely new pilot. The network had agreed to pay for 13 episodes, but scrapping the first pilot left them one short. Rather than try to convince the network to pay for 13 and only get 12, Joss instead talked them into letting him make one more episode for half the regular price. That episode was Epitaph One. (I actually think they made the right decision about the pilot. The original pilot, which is an extra feature on the DVD, was a better *episode* than Ghost, but it was a worse *introduction* to the series, as we didn't see enough of how the Dollhouse operates before they start mucking with it. (But on the other hand, I don't think we needed five whole episodes of that before Man on the Street.)) Speaking of Epitaph One, I have an idea. Each future season of Dollhouse could end in an Epitaph Two, Epitaph Three, and so on as long as they can keep it going. Each one would give us another glimpse of the future, but it would be a *different* future each time, as the characters' actions each season change the course of events. That would probably be too confusing for most viewers, but I think it would be neat. Anyway, new episode tonight! Which I won't be able to see until it hits Hulu or the iTunes Store, as I no longer have cable. So, please, don't forget those spoiler warnings, people. In other Whedon-related news, Buffy star Sarah Michelle Gellar had a baby on Sept. 19 and gave her the refreshingly non-Hollywood name of Charlotte Grace Prinze. With Joss, Charisma, Alyson and Sarah's genes all being passed on to a new generation, perhaps there is hope for humanity after all. - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:01:01 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: Dollhouse Season 1 Chris says: > Speaking of Epitaph One, I have an idea. Each future season of Dollhouse > could end in an Epitaph Two, Epitaph Three, and so on as long as they can > keep it going. Each one would give us another glimpse of the future, but it > would be a *different* future each time, as the characters' actions each > season change the course of events very interesting. at random moments, i've wondered about the "one" in "epitaph one" and have thought that it's highly likely that there will be other "epitaph"s to come. but the idea of having one each season, and having a different possible is *really* cool. i'm actually wondering right now whether mr. whedon is thinking the same thing. i was *going* to say that otherwise, he'd have trouble topping it, but, then i remembered** who i was talking about. ** which reminds me to signal the return to autumn by starting the annual "the days of wine and roses" jag. xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 11:25:40 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: REAP 2009/9/25 Laura Golias > Susan Atkins, 61, brain cancer > > http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jVkQqa3XaBX2IdtMUs8190xxVKs > gD9AU8JLG0 > > Laura Golias > ldgolias1@verizon.net > Helter Skelter! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:39:46 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: REAP kevin says: > 2009/9/25 Laura Golias > >> Susan Atkins, 61, brain cancer >> >> http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jVkQqa3XaBX2IdtMUs8190xxVKs >> gD9AU8JLG0 > > > > Helter Skelter! > speaking of charlie manson, i was hangin' out with dad a week or two ago, and some cable station** was, no lie, running what i would call a manson family biopic. ** i was thinking it was the history channel, but it seems a bit too not-quite-non-fiction-y for them; would they run a biopic? xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:49:00 -0400 From: "Laura Golias" Subject: Re: this is just how dorky I can be I guess I didn't even realize I did that. I heard about Susan Atkins right after I posted the first one. I've always had a fascination with the Manson Family, what can I say? Does that make me a dork or a freak? Or both? Or just someone who's really inot true crime? Dunno. Laura Golias ldgolias1@verizon.net > On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 4:46 AM, Laura Golias > wrote: > >> hmmmmm........so am I a dork if I say I find the website fascinating? >> Even >> if I have never heard of most of the artists/bands? Some of the band >> names >> are pretty aweome. I never knew there was a band called H.P. Lovecraft. >> Or >> that Bobby Beausoleil was a rock guitarist. What, no Charlie Manson? >> : D >> > > I've visited the Prog Archive a few times - yeah, ugly, but sometimes > quite > useful! And the reviews are usually at least somewhat thoughtful...not yr > "DOOOOD, this RuLzZz!!" crap. > > Also: two posts in a row from Laura mentioning or alluding to Charlie > Manson? > > Freaky! > > > -- > > ...Jeff Norman > > The Architectural Dance Society > http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:04:55 -0700 From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: Dollhouse Season 1 On Sep 25, 2009, at 10:39 AM, Christopher Gross wrote: > > Speaking of Epitaph One, I have an idea. Each future season of > Dollhouse could end in an Epitaph Two, Epitaph Three, and so on as > long as they can keep it going. Each one would give us another > glimpse of the future, but it would be a *different* future each > time, as the characters' actions each season change the course of > events. That would probably be too confusing for most viewers, but > I think it would be neat. > This actually seems plausible - it is Whedon we are talking about. He does think like that! > > In other Whedon-related news, Buffy star Sarah Michelle Gellar had > a baby on Sept. 19 and gave her the refreshingly non-Hollywood name > of Charlotte Grace Prinze. With Joss, Charisma, Alyson and Sarah's > genes all being passed on to a new generation, perhaps there is > hope for humanity after all. > I can imagine in 20+ years all of those kids sitting around coming up with some very cool ideas... - - c Carrie Galbraith 707.477.8607 meketone@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:46:09 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Dollhouse Season 1 On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Carrie Galbraith wrote: > On Sep 25, 2009, at 10:39 AM, Christopher Gross wrote: > > > > Speaking of Epitaph One, I have an idea. Each future season of > > Dollhouse could end in an Epitaph Two, Epitaph Three, and so on as > > long as they can keep it going. Each one would give us another > > glimpse of the future, but it would be a *different* future each > > time, as the characters' actions each season change the course of > > events. That would probably be too confusing for most viewers, but > > I think it would be neat. > > > This actually seems plausible - it is Whedon we are talking about. He > does think like that! > Except that we thought of it - and since Whedon doesn't think like other people do, therefore it's not what he's thinking of. Unless he's trying to psych us out by influencing us to think of what he's thinking, so we'll therefore think he's not thinking it, and then stop thinking it and forget it until the show's out and then we'll all be like, wow, what I clever idea which I in no way ever thought of myself! - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 18:50:37 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: REAP On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 11:39 AM, lep wrote: > kevin says: > > 2009/9/25 Laura Golias > > > >> Susan Atkins, 61, brain cancer > >> > >> > http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jVkQqa3XaBX2IdtMUs8190xxVKs > >> gD9AU8JLG0 > > > > > > > > Helter Skelter! > > > > speaking of charlie manson, i was hangin' out with dad a week or two > ago, and some cable station** was, no lie, running what i would call a > manson family biopic. > > ** i was thinking it was the history channel, but it seems a bit too > not-quite-non-fiction-y for them; would they run a biopic? > As long as it's sensationalistic enough and they can squeeze it in between the endless reports on UFOs, Nostradamus and the Templars, they certainly would. Especially if it's about Charlie - he's almost as big as Hitler. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V17 #255 ********************************