From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V17 #243 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, September 11 2009 Volume 17 : Number 243 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: My name is "Eb", and my johnson's latest tattoo reads "This machine ills fascists" ["Nectar At Any Cost!" <] Re: My name is "Eb", and my johnson's latest tattoo reads "This machine ills fascists" [2fs ] Fwd: Robyn recommends "Cherry Picking Apple Blossom Time" [HwyCDRrev@aol.] Seeking "Best of 00's" band list [Luther Wills-Dudich ] The Minus 5 -- free show tomorrow [Jeremy Osner ] Re: Seeking "Best of 00's" band list [kevin studyvin ] Re: Seeking "Best of 00's" band list ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Seeking "Best of 00's" band list [Tom Clark ] Re: Seeking "Best of 00's" band list [2fs ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 19:12:26 -0700 From: "Nectar At Any Cost!" Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and my johnson's latest tattoo reads "This machine ills fascists" u2? the stones? green day? not so much that i "said" it (as in a blog, or some such-like); but that there's plenty of such content on the site. the account was canceled three days after i uploaded all the content -- presumably, as soon as it was noticed, or reported, or what have you. they wouldn't even recommend to me a host that didn't mind naughty language. not on the website, that i can think of. however, let me take this moment to announce that two weeks' worth of new material have been queued up at . almost a *year* since last update! huhn. somebody told me about this just a few days ago. not what i'd have expected it to look like. as far as album *titles* go, is *Moon-Colony Bloodbath* (actually an EP, for what it's worth) the year's best? hmm...this new antlers disc (hi, rex!) is pretty overrated, in my opinion. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:24:49 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and my johnson's latest tattoo reads "This machine ills fascists" On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Nectar At Any Cost! wrote: > > > u2? the stones? green day? > Kinda proves my point, doesn't it? Of those three bands, two have been around for more than 30 years...and one is older than I am. Furthermore, two of those bands clearly *began* as "alternative/punk/new-wave" whatever, and more or less the music scene changed around them rather than their necessarily becoming more mainstream (U2 & Green Day). So, as I implied: ain't no such thing as mainstream rock anymore. It's either nostalgia or simply a marketing term rather than a living genre. I'd say it's as hard for there to be a non-nostalgic genuine "mainstream rock" band these days - given the 30-year influence of punk and everything after - as it is for there to be a contemporary band utterly uninfluenced by los Beatlos. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:29:39 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: for Stewart R. On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 7:43 PM, lep wrote: > > i probably shouldn't say this out loud, but it's bowie's version that > doesn't make the cut for me. even when he's caught in the the groove > of "young americans", it is just SO not his song. > Even with Mr. Lennon himself contributing. Hell, I love Bowie but I totally agree with you. Some of his covers are mighty fine - but this one is rather lame (uh, "anemic and sanitized"...). Interesting that when Bowie tried to tackle The Biggest Boys - on this track, and his cover of the Stones' "Let's Spend the Night Together" - he utterly falls flat. LSTNT is...well, if the original has a bit of swing, of wit, of spirit to its seduction, this one is all sledgehammer unsubtlety. Which, you know, I suppose in yr 1973 coked-up disco-glam decadent Bowieworld, meant it probably worked wonders - although "night" now redefined as "twenty minutes in the back stall of the men's room." - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 00:45:55 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Fwd: Robyn recommends "Cherry Picking Apple Blossom Time" My Bob Dylan Examiner Column http://www.examiner.com/x-21829-Bob-Dylan-Examiner my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ From: duplanet@nycap.rr.com Sent: 9/10/2009 10:02:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Robyn recommends "Cherry Picking Apple Blossom Time" David Greenberger meanders around America, lovingly collecting the life stories of old people like fireflies in a jar. On Cherry Picking Apple Blossom Time he visits Milwaukee which, as one elderly resident explains, has the same number of letters as Wisconsin. Over a smoky grid of blues-funk and acoustic guitar played by Paul Cebar and his band, David recites anecdotes and reflections from the Milwaukee senior citizens that he has interviewed on his recent visits there. In an America that seems increasingly dominated by amnesia, and the erosion of its history, it's very heartening - and poignant - to hear these fragments of lives as they draw to a close. The rootsy tone of the music - Ry Cooder, Tom Waits, David Byrne and even Beefheart's Magic Band come to the mind's ear - adds Americana to these tales of vanishing Midwestern life. Here are the man who cheated at tomato- growing by hanging a purchased one on a vine; the man who made peace with his artificial arm and hung shopping bags from it; and the man in a red shirt who feels like a king. There are exuberant moments, but the most moving pieces are the elegies: people who gently mourn their vanished partners - one speaks of his wife as his co-pilot, another of how he's tried to replace his wife with crossword puzzles. The matter-of-fact tone that David uses in these vignettes is partly what makes them so emotional. In 'No Rooms Here' you can hear the life and memory of the elderly female narrator dissolving as she speaks. Just as certain as our death is the uncertainty of what follows - this ambiguity riddles the inhabitants of Cherry Picking Apple Blossom Time. The fragments drift by in a meditational parade - the slow shuffle of people preparing to exit their lives, setting things down, and then picking them up a few minutes later, trying to weigh everything up while it's still theirs. Here, in this album, they can dwell a little longer, and we can hear them until our echoes fade with theirs. I recommend this record to anybody who cares about people. - - Robyn Hitchcock, September 2009 AVAILABLE HERE: http://duplexplanet.com/giftshop.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 00:19:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Luther Wills-Dudich Subject: Seeking "Best of 00's" band list Fellow Fegs- I just had a few conversations with some friends and realized I am -really- out of touch with anyone who debuted in the last decade. (Been stuck with Robyn Hitchcock, Richard Thompson, David Byrne/Brian Eno, and the like music which gives me "the tastes of a really hip 50-something" - which would be great, if I wasn't in my 30's :)). So, since I know a lot of you LOVE to make such lists, what have been the 10-15 best albums by groups/artists that were not active/recording in the 90's? The last new music I got was "Return to Cookie Mountain" by the wonderfully weird 'TV on the Radio". Thanks! - -Luther Wills-Dudich (formerly/ futurely of Number Nine Line) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 06:44:23 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Seeking "Best of 00's" band list On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 12:19 AM, Luther Wills-Dudich < lwillsdudich@yahoo.com> wrote: > Fellow Fegs- > > I just had a few conversations with some friends and realized I > am -really- out of touch with anyone who debuted in the last decade. (Been > stuck with Robyn Hitchcock, Richard Thompson, David Byrne/Brian Eno, and > the > like music which gives me "the tastes of a really hip 50-something" - which > would be great, if I wasn't in my 30's :)). > New Pornographers, almost anything related to them. Can't do much beyond that, as those records get stuck on "repeat" whenever I start listening to them. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 09:50:00 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: The Minus 5 -- free show tomorrow The Minus 5 are playing at Union County Music Fest in Clark, NJ tomorrow afternoon. Should be a great show if it does not rain... http://www.ucmusicfest.com/poster/mfposter2009.pdf (Also, TMBG on Sunday!) J ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 08:37:16 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Seeking "Best of 00's" band list On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 12:19 AM, Luther Wills-Dudich wrote: > Fellow Fegs- > > I just had a few conversations with some friends and realized I > am -really- out of touch with anyone who debuted in the last decade. (Been > stuck with Robyn Hitchcock, Richard Thompson, David Byrne/Brian Eno, and the > like music which gives me "the tastes of a really hip 50-something" - which > would be great, if I wasn't in my 30's :)). > > So, since I know a lot of you > LOVE to make such lists, what have been the 10-15 best albums by > groups/artists that were not active/recording in the 90's? The last new music > I got was "Return to Cookie Mountain" by the wonderfully weird 'TV on the > Radio". I'll second yr TVOTR; almost anything from Grizzly Bear; Wooden Shjips out of SFO. Kinda like the Mars Volta too, and I'm still hooked on Nicole Atkins' Neptune City. Lewis Taylor's done some very sweet stuff but seems to have abandoned the music biz. All I can think of at the moment. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 08:43:12 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Seeking "Best of 00's" band list On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 12:19 AM, Luther Wills-Dudich wrote: > Fellow Fegs- > > I just had a few conversations with some friends and realized I > am -really- out of touch with anyone who debuted in the last decade. (Been > stuck with Robyn Hitchcock, Richard Thompson, David Byrne/Brian Eno, and the > like music which gives me "the tastes of a really hip 50-something" - which > would be great, if I wasn't in my 30's :)). Oh, and the Gnarls Barkley. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:33:54 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Seeking "Best of 00's" band list Luther Wills-Dudich wrote: > > So, since I know a lot of you > LOVE to make such lists, what have been the 10-15 best albums by > groups/artists that were not active/recording in the 90's? Why limit to 10-15? Albums by all of these 200x artists have their moments: Akron Family Alasdair Roberts Alela Diane The Aliens Animal Collective Apollo Sunshine Arcade Fire Architecture In Helsinki Basia Bulat Beach House The Bees The Be Good Tanyas Beirut The Besnard Lakes Black Mountain The Boggs Bon Iver Brandi Disterheft Bright Eyes Broken Social Scene Buck 65 Camera Obscura Carolina Chocolate Drops Casper And The Cookies Chad Van Gaalen Choir Practice Chris Coole The Circulatory System Claire Jenkins Avec Band Clifton Hicks Colleen Crooked Still Currituck Co Dananananaykroyd Dark Meat David Kilpatrick Decemberists Deerhoof Dengue Fever Devendra Banhart D M Stith Dom Flemons Ebony Hillbillies Elvis Perkins In Dearland Erynn Marshall Fanfarlo Faun Fables Feist Felice Brothers Final Fantasy Florence And The Machine Four Tet Friendly Rich And The Lollipop People Frightened Rabbit Goldfrapp Gorillaz A Hawk And A Hacksaw Hidden Cameras High Water Marks Hylozoists The Icicles Ideal Free Distribution James Hill Jennifer Gentle Jens Lekman Jesse Sykes & The Sweet Hereafter Joanna Newsom Jolie Holland Josephine Foster Julian Fauth Ken Reaume King Biscuit Time The Late B P Helium Laura Barrett Lemon Jelly Lily Allen Lord Cut-Glass Major Organ And The Adding Machine Malcolm Middleton Caribou/Manitoba Marissa Nadler Marshmallow MC Honky MGMT M I A Mull Historical Society Nana Grizol Okkervil River Old Man Luedecke Panda Bear Pipes You See Pipes You Don't The Polyphonic Spree Porn Sword Tobacco Queens Of The Stone Age The Real Tuesday Weld Ruby Suns The Sadies Polmo Polpo/Sandro Perri Secret Machines The Shaky Hands Sheesham And Lotus The Shins Smoosh Someone Still Loves You Boris Yeltsin Staff Benda Bilili Still Flyin' Tilly And The Wall Tunng Twilight Sad Twi The Humble Feather Ulysses Vetiver The Wailin' Jennys We Were Promised Jetpacks Zumm Zumm Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 17:48:21 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Seeking "Best of 00's" band list On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > Luther Wills-Dudich wrote: >> >> So, since I know a lot of you >> LOVE to make such lists, what have been the 10-15 best albums by >> groups/artists that were not active/recording in the 90's? > > Why limit to 10-15? Albums by all of these 200x artists have their moments: Wow, of the ones I know, that read like a list I might have compiled to answer the question "why indie music sucks donkey balls." Well, except for: > Goldfrapp And provisionally: > Lily Allen And since > MC Honky ...is really E o' the Eels, does that count for 2000s only? Looking over my own lists, here's what I came up with, in addition to the ones above, in no particular order: Starlight Mints Phil Lee Interpol The Streets (though the last two were pretty dire) Peaches New Pornographers (already mentioned) Dressy Bessy Ted Leo & the Pharmacists (Ted was active in the '90s, so he might get pedanted out) The Yeah Yeah Yeahs Fischerspooner The Pernice Brothers On!Air!Library!, and its successors School of Seven Bells and Daylight's For the Birds The Mattoid Franz Ferdinand The Fiery Furnaces Glossary Editors The Ting Tings Teddy Thompson Ladytron later, Miles - -- now with blogspot retsin! http://readingpronunciation.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 19:47:02 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: REAP Jim Krenov, designer of the Krenov Wood Plane (see http://showcase.netins.net/web/iabonsai/knight/index.html), passed away the day before yesterday. Jeremy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 20:44:21 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Seeking "Best of 00's" band list Miles Goosens wrote: > > Wow, of the ones I know, that read like a list I might have compiled > to answer the question "why indie music sucks donkey balls." Well, fuck *you*, you fucking fuck, Miles! ;-) > Dressy Bessy First release was '97, so out, out! like a discarded cardigan. > The Streets (though the last two were pretty dire) > Franz Ferdinand > The Fiery Furnaces See, now *these* suck all sorts of equine spheroids for me. But I'm okay with that. It's your taste, no matter how flawed. Seriously, you don't like Apollo Sunshine? There's something wrong with your head, then. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 17:53:15 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: REAP On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > Jim Krenov, designer of the Krenov Wood Plane (see > http://showcase.netins.net/web/iabonsai/knight/index.html), passed away the > day before yesterday. Thanks so much for this post. With all the superficial crap that goes on these days (and nobody knows superficial better than me) it's really admirable to see a serious craftsman getting some love, even posthumously. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 17:33:00 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Seeking "Best of 00's" band list A few quick ones before checking library: The Thrills Stephen Malkmus Secret Machines Ted Leo & Pharmacists A Band of Bees Portastatic And who knew Miles was into Peaches? - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 22:47:49 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Seeking "Best of 00's" band list On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Tom Clark wrote: > A few quick ones before checking library: > The Thrills > Stephen Malkmus > Secret Machines > Ted Leo & Pharmacists > A Band of Bees > Portastatic > > Well, since Malkmus led Pavement, and Portastatic is Mac McCaughan of Superchunk's not-really-solo stuff, I'd say they're pedanted out as well. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V17 #243 ********************************