From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V17 #232 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, August 27 2009 Volume 17 : Number 232 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: QT, Wes, etc. [Michael Sweeney ] Re: QT, Wes, etc. [kevin studyvin ] Re: so, uh... [Randall Riebe ] Re: Sandra's Having her brain out ["edwardofsim@tiscali.co.uk" ] Re: REAP [FSThomas ] Re: REAP [michaeljbachman@comcast.net] Re: fegmaniax-digest V17 #231 ["Jason R. Thornton" ] REAP [FSThomas ] reap [lep ] Join my Yahoo! Sports Fantasy Football league [munki1972@yahoo.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 06:24:10 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: Re: QT, Wes, etc. kevin studyvin wrote: >mentioned to Anne once that TRT seemed like a New Yorker short story turned into a saga; she said she'd never read any of them, and ever since I've been looking for an anthology which I remain convinced exists somewhere even though there's no evidence to support this belief...anybody?< ...In case no one has mentioned it yet, I rather see "Tennebaums" as a modern-equivalent adaptation of J.D. Salinger's "Glass family" stories, such as "Franny," "Zooey," "Raise High the Roof Beams, Carpenters," "Seymour: An Introduction," and several of the shorter pieces in his "Nine Stories" collection...(and, if I'm not horribly mistaken -- but I'm too post-Teddy K. blue right now (at 1:15 am) to look it up -- Wes might've even made comments about it being HIS spin on Salinger's Glasses...) Michael "Sorry, Quail -- I'm WAY with you on QT...but I disagree on Wes" Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail. is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=PID23391::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM _HYGN_faster:082009 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 23:45:30 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: QT, Wes, etc. >>mentioned to Anne once that TRT seemed like a New > Yorker short story turned into a saga; she said she'd never read any > of them, and ever since I've been looking for an anthology which I > remain convinced exists somewhere even though there's no evidence to > support this belief...anybody?< > > ...In case no one has mentioned it yet, I rather see "Tennebaums" as a > modern-equivalent adaptation of J.D. Salinger's "Glass family" stories, such > as "Franny," "Zooey," "Raise High the Roof Beams, Carpenters," "Seymour: An > Introduction," and several of the shorter pieces in his "Nine Stories" > collection...(and, if I'm not horribly mistaken -- but I'm too post-Teddy K. > blue right now (at 1:15 am) to look it up -- Wes might've even made comments > about it being HIS spin on Salinger's Glasses...) Yeah, what he said. The four long stories were part of the handful of stuff I reread compulsively through the late seventies, along with John Ashbery, Allen Ginsberg, Maurice Blanchot's Death Sentence, Michael Moorcock's Jerry Cornelius stories, Angela Carter, Babel by Patti Smith, the reality-bending stuff Philip K. Dick was doing about then, and pretty much anything I could find by William Burroughs and J.G. Ballard. And let's not forget Michael Herr's Dispatches, the ultimate book on our late adventure in Vietnam. Umm, and The Cloud Of Unknowing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 06:24:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Randall Riebe Subject: Re: so, uh... Apologies to TGQ for sending this to him and not the list......... From: Great Quail You are, of course, ignoring an entire host of Tarantino's other qualities and talents, starting with the fact that Tarantino *made* certain obscurities into modern pop culture. ################# The script for the forgettable movie (I had seen it, but had to IMDB the title) "Crimson Tide" was given to Tarantino to jazz it up a bit. I'm guessing the references to the Silver Surfer and having Denzel call his engineer "Scotty" were from Q. It made me wonder if he was delibrately trying to make a bad script worse as an inside joke? To me, this is why Q is rememberable. BTW, The Wrestler sucked, but had an awesome soundtrack.........Discuss. Vince ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:38:49 +0100 (GMT+01:00) From: "edwardofsim@tiscali.co.uk" Subject: Re: Sandra's Having her brain out anacreon@gmail.com said >Date: 25/08/2009 4:54 >Subj: Sandra's Having her brain out > >and she feels alright > >This is a much more interesting song than I ever gave it credit for being Awesome song, easily one of the highlights of 'A Can of Bees' (along with Human Music)! Someone's pulling your leaves off, Edward (of Sim) Protect your PC with 50% off Norton Security - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/securepc _______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 10:21:05 -0700 From: "Nectar At Any Cost!" Subject: Re: "Follow The Money" i more less agree with you. i would guess, however, that the issue exists for the other mammals as well: that they reach sexual maturity some time before they're sent packing. and if so, that the multiplier is applied consistently across all species. but as i say, i couldn't even find confirmation of the multiplier, let alone how "maturity" is defined. if anybody wants to track down this info, it'd be interesting to have a look at. there *is* plenty of anecdotal evidence of much longer-lived individuals, as well as long-lived cultures. for what it's worth. i'm just not terribly interested in the subject (sorry, quail). but if you want to recommend a few general-interest titles, i might have a look at them. spare us the elitist horseshit. if you've got something to add to the conversation, then, please do. specifically, if you disagree with the passages quoted (one from the vaclib site explaining what was meant by "DDT-like" chemicals; and one from the duke university science dept. explaining the potential dangers of DDT), then say why. somebody as learned as yourself shouldn't have difficulty putting your grievance(s) into layman's terms. also, i've asked, many different times, for somebody, anybody, to explain to me how i may be misinterpreting the graphs. i mean, they seem to me to be pretty straight-forward; but given that y'all seem to find them utterly unconvincing, i'm open to being let known the errors of my ways. but the only response has been chris' skepticism at the veracity of the data; which criticism i'll assume he no longer holds following my having linked to the official data in my previous post. generally speaking, we're having a serious discussion here. personally, despite my constant whining about its time-consuming nature, i *have* found it useful. i've conceded a handful of points; felt it necessary to clarify many others; been impelled to do some research that i'd otherwise not have engaged in; and generally been required to think the issue through quite a bit. so while i'm as convinced as ever of the bogus-ness of the germ theory, and the criminality of the drugging industry; i very greatly appreciate the contributions of chris, jeff, and rosso. hell, even marc's posts have been good for comic relief. but i can't see that you've offered anything more than pontifications, stewart. not that i expect you to care; but i must say that that disappoints me. Eddie, Please explain, if you will, why studies show disease incidents rise when vaccination rates drop. Is it that people suddenly, when they stop vaccinations, stop living in the healthful manner you subscribe to? Or is it because DDT rates are fluctuating and coincidentally use goes up right as people stop using vaccines? Just curious....> wondering how you justify your insistence, considering your refusal to honour my request of you to explain the purpose of the practice of lobbying and of "revolving door" if they don't affect policy; your refusal to honour my request for a critique of , beyond that he's considered in industry circles to be a "whackjob"; your refusal to honour my request for citations supporting your claim that "numerous" diseases have satisfied koch's postulates; and your general unwillingness to discuss points raised? nevertheless... to which studies do you refer? the same calibre as the fucking idiotic polio experiments you tried to pass off as legitimate? citations, please. the specific blog post you link to doesn't give us much to go on. let's see... he links to a teevee newz piece concerning measles in new zealand. he calls it "more evidence", but that's *all* the evidence either he or you have chosen to give us. from the newz: >> Notified measles cases so far this year are already seven times higher than the total number of measles cases last year. The reason? The third-lowest immunisation rate in the OECD, despite the fact immunisation is free and widely and readily available. Our immunisation rate is about 83 percent - to be effective it needs to be 95 percent. << where did new zealand rank among OECD countries last year? we're not told - -- presumably about the same. what was new zealand's total coverage last year? we're not told -- presumably about the same. if somebody wants to hunt down the missing information, feel free to do so. but on the face of it, it appears the spike has nothing to do with new zealand's relatively lower coverage than other OECD countries. to what, then, can the spike be attributed? well, note that it's a spike in *notifications*, not mortality. absent other evidence, that seems to me the most likely explanation -- not that so many more people are getting sick, but that more people are reporting it. anyway, the so-called "herd immunity" tipping-point implication doesn't make sense on the face of it, because the spike is a multiple of last year's total -- meaning, of course, that the spike didn't spring full-flower from a previously-eradicated status. beyond that, i wouldn't even think that a reduction from 95% coverage to 83% coverage in a year's time would be mathematically possible... and beyond *that*, let's see a break-down of the numbers comparing those *with* vaccination and those *without*. even if the "tipping-point" figure had been breached, and the disease had re-gained a foot-hold, those having been vaccinated should still be expected to be stricken in far fewer proportions than those not having been -- even if, as we're reminded, vaccination is "not 100% effective". anyway, marc, i'm still ready to be exposed early and often. you tell me the times and places, and i'll be there (yes, with a signed, notarised release absolving you from responsibility should i sicken and die). shouldn't want for sicklings to expose me with, given to-day's screaming headlines that 50% of americans will over the next several months' time be haunted by the swine-flu demon... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:21:23 -0400 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: REAP Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > Edward M. Kennedy, 77 I quote Michael Sweeney when I say "and not a second too soon." I try not to speak too ill of the dead, but I sure as Hell won't be offering any "rest in peace"s to him. Rest in pieces, maybe. - -f. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 19:25:49 +0000 (UTC) From: michaeljbachman@comcast.net Subject: Re: REAP - ----- Original Message ----- From: "FSThomas" To: "Corn Fed Jeebus" Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 2:21:23 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: REAP Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: >> Edward M. Kennedy, 77 f.B wrote >I quote Michael Sweeney when I say "and not a second too soon." >I try not to speak too ill of the dead, but I sure as Hell won't be >offering any "rest in peace"s to him. Rest in pieces, maybe. I predict that EMK will soon beB honored with a painting asB the sixth outstanding US Senator whose portraits are displayed in the Senate Reception Room. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:33:02 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V17 #231 >Edward M. Kennedy, 77 And me without a single Dead Kennedys tune in my collection. Oh, the pain. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:56:39 -0400 From: FSThomas Subject: REAP Ellie Greenwich, 68. Via Rolling Stone (http://tinyurl.com/knp8kb) bBe My Babyb Songwriter Ellie Greenwich Dead at 68 // Ellie Greenwich, a songwriter who along with producer Phil Spector and co-writer Jeff Barry crafted some of the biggest and greatest singles of the 1960s, passed away at the age of 68. The AP reports that Greenwich died of a heart attack in New Yorkbs Roosevelt Hospital, where she was battling pneumonia. Among the most famous songs that list Greenwich as a songwriter are the Ronettesb bBe My Babyb and bBaby, I Love You,b the Shangri-Labs bLeader of the Pack,b the Dixie Cupsb bChapel of Love,b Tina & Ike Turnerbs bRiver Deep, Mountain Highb and the Crystalsb bThen He Kissed Meb and bDa Doo Ron Ron.b Each of those landmark tracks were listed among /Rolling Stone/bs 500 Greatest Songs of All Time. Discovered by famed songwriters Leiber and Stoller, Greenwichbs other major hits include Manfred Mannbs bDoo Wah Diddy Diddy,b Darlene Lovebs bChristmas (Baby Please Come Home)b and Tommy Jamesb and the Shondellsb bHanky Panky.b Greenwich and Barry also helped nurture the career of a fledgling singer-songwriter named Neil Diamond, and Greenwich and Barry produced and contributed background vocals to Diamond hits like bKentucky Woman,b bGirl, Youbll Be a Woman Soon,b bCherry, Cherry,b bRed, Red Wineb and bIbm a Believer.b Greenwich, along with Barry, was inducted into the Songwritersb Hall of Fame in 1991. A Broadway show dedicated to songs co-written by Greenwich and based on her life called /Leader of the Pack/ debuted on Broadway, where it was nominated for a Best Musical Tony in 1985. Greenwich also recorded her own solo album, /Ellie Greenwich Composes, Produces and Sings/, in 1968, and often sang backup for artists like Frank Sinatra, Bobby Darin and Dusty Springfield. The family asks that donations be made to the VH1 Save the Music Foundation. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:39:53 -0400 From: lep Subject: reap dominick dunne, 83: http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2009/08/dominick-dunne-obituary.html xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: 27 Aug 2009 00:19:05 -0700 From: munki1972@yahoo.com Subject: Join my Yahoo! Sports Fantasy Football league Hey fegmaniax@smoe.org, You have been invited to join some goddamn mammal's custom league in Yahoo! Sports Fantasy Football, Sunday Groovers. In order to join the league, just go to http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1, click the "Sign Up Now" or "Get Another Team" button and follow the links to "Join a Custom League". When prompted, enter the League ID# and password below. 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