From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V17 #230 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, August 25 2009 Volume 17 : Number 230 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: non-Robyn news that will cause instant Feglist orgasm [2fs ] Re: so, uh... [lep ] Inglourious Phegmaniacks! [Great Quail ] Re: so, uh... [kevin studyvin ] Re: so, uh... [2fs ] Re: non-Robyn news that will cause instant Feglist orgasm [djini@voicenet] Re: non-Robyn news that will cause instant Feglist orgasm [kevin studyvin] Re: so, uh... [Great Quail ] Re: so, uh... [kevin studyvin ] Re: so, uh... [Miles Goosens ] Re: so, uh... [2fs ] Re: so, uh... [Tom Clark ] Re: Stewart's Wii [djini@voicenet.com] Re: Stewart's Wii ["Stewart C. Russell" ] New reports on Eddie's points in the "follow the money" thread [Marc ] Re: Sandra's Having her brain out [Tom Clark ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 23:12:33 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: non-Robyn news that will cause instant Feglist orgasm On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 9:40 PM, lep wrote: > > myers-briggs just gives a basic construct for personality preferences; > it doesn't account for neurosis, art school, or psychedelic usage. > I believe the first and last items are redundant with the middle item. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 22:07:06 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Mad Men On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Miles Goosens wrote: > On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 9:44 PM, lep wrote: >> Great Quail says: >>> You can ask any group of "Mad Men" fans "What is the show about?", and you >>> will get different answers, all of them essentially valid. It's about the >>> nature, effects, and consequence of advertising. It's about the erosion of >>> authenticity and its replacement with simulacra. It's about middle age >>> dissatisfaction and despair. It's about fidelity and infidelity. It's about >>> the decline of the white male power structure. It's about the decay of >>> institutions. It's about the changes to American life between World War II >>> and Vietnam, between Eisenhower's presidency and Kennedy's assassination. >>> It's about the gradual shift of the American zeitgeist from the East Coast >>> to the West Coast. >> >> they're wrong: it's about smoking. > > And drinking. But mostly smoking. > From the little I've seen, it also seemed to be concerned with underwear of the kind that nobody wears any more. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 08:35:29 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: so, uh... jeff 2fs says: > ...why is Quentin Tarantino spelling things wrong anyway? mr. tarantino on the matter: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/08/24/entertainment/e032356D03.DTL&type=printable - -or- http://tinyurl.com/m4xxcd not that it helps. xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:13:51 -0400 From: Great Quail Subject: Inglourious Phegmaniacks! The movie is spelled that way because one of the characters has "Inglourious Basterds" spelled out on his baseball bat. I admit it's a bit of a pain in the ass to replicate in discussion and searches, but don't let that bit of preciousness prevent you from seeing the film. I saw it this weekend with a large group of people -- all fairly hard to please film types -- and we all loved the movie. It's kind of hard to describe, and most people here have either figured out long ago whether or not they love or hate Tarantino, so it's pointless to really say much more. But it gets a very, very enthusiastic thumbs up from me. - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 07:29:23 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: so, uh... On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 5:35 AM, lep wrote: > jeff 2fs says: >> ...why is Quentin Tarantino spelling things wrong anyway? > > mr. tarantino on the matter: > > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/08/24/entertainment/e032356D03.DTL&type=printable > -or- > http://tinyurl.com/m4xxcd > > not that it helps. Article could also have brought in Stephen Frears' great little flick Sammy And Rosie Get Laid, which was mysteriously altered to Sammy And Rosie in about half its press. I was actually interested in checking out Q's new movie till I read the New Yorker review. Somehow it doesn't seem so attractive now. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:33:19 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: so, uh... On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 7:35 AM, lep wrote: > jeff 2fs says: > > ...why is Quentin Tarantino spelling things wrong anyway? > > mr. tarantino on the matter: > > > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/08/24/entertainment/e032356D03.DTL&type=printable > -or- > http://tinyurl.com/m4xxcd > > not that it helps. > "Artistic flourishes," eh? And comparing himself to Basquiat? Not helping, "Q"... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:59:49 -0400 (EDT) From: djini@voicenet.com Subject: Re: non-Robyn news that will cause instant Feglist orgasm > lep muttered darkly: >> i think it's the same thing that makes this puzzle easy enough that >> it's really more of a picture than a puzzle: >> http://www.moillusions.com/2006/04/coffe-illusion.html >> >> (i'd be interested in whether others find it easy or not** and, then, >> you know, feel free to correlate it with your myers-briggs type. and >> don't think the fun starts there - perhaps stewart will join me in a >> bit of regression analysis.) > > Dunno, in about 30 seconds I'd found half a dozen faces, one of the Banana > Splits (Fleagle? - the one with the helmet on) and a whole bunch of other > stuff that doesn't bear recounting, apart from a sudden burst of "Trumpton > Riots" by Half Man Half Biscuit in my head whilst staring at it. In MB-space > I'm always N, usually I, but the others are subject to change (probably > depending on which head I'm wearing, but preferably not the one that does > non linear differential equations for fun). I see Vin Diesel drowning in coffee beans. In a world where coffee is king and actors with murky pasts and and ridiculously butch pseudonyms are merely fodder for the grinderbeast they call Hollywood. Jeanne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:34:08 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: non-Robyn news that will cause instant Feglist orgasm > I see Vin Diesel drowning in coffee beans. In a world where coffee is king and actors > with murky pasts and and ridiculously butch pseudonyms are merely fodder for the > grinderbeast they call Hollywood. > > Jeanne > Sweet. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 15:43:17 -0400 From: Great Quail Subject: Re: so, uh... > And comparing himself to Basquiat? Well, there are some who might argue he's done more to change the modern film industry than Basquiat did for the art industry. And to speak to talent - -- well, I think Tarantino is one of the best American directors working on the scene. The guy may personally be annoying, and certainly has some off-putting traits, but his movies are widely recognized as being exemplary. - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:07:29 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: so, uh... On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Great Quail wrote: >> And comparing himself to Basquiat? > > Well, there are some who might argue he's done more to change the modern > film industry than Basquiat did for the art industry. And to speak to talent > -- well, I think Tarantino is one of the best American directors working on > the scene. The guy may personally be annoying, and certainly has some > off-putting traits, but his movies are widely recognized as being exemplary. > > --Quail But his consciousness is essentially that of a magpie - "pop culture reference! ooh, shiny!" Although he is capable of organizing his bits of shiny stuff into very entertaining structures, I'll give him that. I guess mostly I'm just pissed off about this new flick's turning WWII into a gag routine, better-made but not any more valuable than a re-run of Hogan's Heroes. I'm generally a sucker for pretty much any kind of low comedy (just ask my wife), but occasionally I will come across something that I just can't abide, and this seems to be in that category. On the other hand For what it's worth as I sit here typing this foolishness I've got some harpsichord music going, and the little desk fan is putting out a hum that's a minor fifth. (Or it was.) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 16:14:33 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: so, uh... On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 4:07 PM, kevin studyvin wrote: > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Great Quail wrote: >>> And comparing himself to Basquiat? >> >> Well, there are some who might argue he's done more to change the modern >> film industry than Basquiat did for the art industry. And to speak to talent >> -- well, I think Tarantino is one of the best American directors working on >> the scene. The guy may personally be annoying, and certainly has some >> off-putting traits, but his movies are widely recognized as being exemplary. >> >> --Quail > > But his consciousness is essentially that of a magpie - "pop culture > reference! ooh, shiny!" I loathe Tarantino and all his works, in large part because of exactly that. And there needs to be some kind of law prohibiting him from acting. Still cringing at his ALIAS guest shots. later, Miles - -- now with blogspot retsin! http://readingpronunciation.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 19:01:17 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: so, uh... On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Great Quail wrote: > > And comparing himself to Basquiat? > > Well, there are some who might argue he's done more to change the modern > film industry than Basquiat did for the art industry. And to speak to > talent > -- well, I think Tarantino is one of the best American directors working on > the scene. The guy may personally be annoying, and certainly has some > off-putting traits, but his movies are widely recognized as being > exemplary. > I don't hate Tarantino. I tend to think his love of trashy genres leads to more blood'n'guts than necessary (and I don't "get" people who find that cool or amusing or whatever...not that it offends me, I just don't get it), but I think he does have some degree of talent. But he could use an editor. Also: the problem w/the comparison w/Basquiat is that Tarantino's comparing his quirky decision to *misspell* something to a Basquiat. Nothing to do w/B's place in the artistic scheme of things...that's just a half-assed comparison. It'd be like some musician saying, when asked why he had a half-second of a field recording of a studio assistant using the toilet, his reply was that Beethoven stuck a chorus into a symphony, man. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:31:48 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: so, uh... On Aug 24, 2009, at 2:14 PM, Miles Goosens wrote: > I loathe Tarantino and all his works, in large part because of exactly > that. And there needs to be some kind of law prohibiting him from > acting. Still cringing at his ALIAS guest shots. But his cameo in "Sleep With Me" was hilarious! - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:11:36 -0400 (EDT) From: djini@voicenet.com Subject: Re: Stewart's Wii Stewart meh'd > > I used to be a very serious gamer. In fact, I did it for a living. Long > before I joined fegmaniax, I was a game reviewer for the UK press. I > kinda peaked about 20 years ago, though, and anything beyond what are > now so disdainfully called "casual" or "twitch" games have no interest > for me. Genuinely curious - what falls under that heading? And who are these disdainful gamers? Jeanne, not a gamer, except for online scrabble against the stupid scrabblebot at pogo p.s. fegdigest 227 cracked me up. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 22:37:26 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Stewart's Wii djini@voicenet.com wrote: > > Genuinely curious - what falls under that heading? Pretty much any arcade style game would be "twitch" (relying on reactions) and "casual" (in that it doesn't create a world that you can return to and interact with). > And who are these disdainful gamers? Anyone who ever takes more than 15 minutes to play a game. WoWers. KoL-freaks. You know the type. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:25:47 -0400 From: Marc Subject: New reports on Eddie's points in the "follow the money" thread http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2009/08/still_more_evidence_that_infectious_dise.php Eddie, Please explain, if you will, why studies show disease incidents rise when vaccination rates drop. Is it that people suddenly, when they stop vaccinations, stop living in the healthful manner you subscribe to? Or is it because DDT rates are fluctuating and coincidentally use goes up right as people stop using vaccines? Just curious.... Marc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 23:54:37 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Sandra's Having her brain out and she feels alright This is a much more interesting song than I ever gave it credit for being ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 21:32:57 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Sandra's Having her brain out On Aug 24, 2009, at 8:54 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > and she feels alright > > This is a much more interesting song than I ever gave it credit for > being I'll never forget seeing Robyn, Andy & Morris do it at a secret TT The Bears show in 1990. Incredibly tight considering it wasn't a regular in their setlist. - -t "been to nightmare school" c ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V17 #230 ********************************