From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V17 #229 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Sunday, August 23 2009 Volume 17 : Number 229 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: anyone home? [Rex ] Re: tweens [Rex ] Re: non-Robyn news that will cause instant Feglist orgasm [lep ] Re: so, uh... [kevin studyvin ] Re: so, uh... [2fs ] Re: so, uh... [m swedene ] RE: non-Robyn news that will cause instant Feglist orgasm [Dr John Halewo] Re: Cortez the Killer [Jeremy Osner ] Re: non-Robyn news that will cause instant Feglist orgasm [lep ] Re: Mad Men [Miles Goosens ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 20:18:55 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: anyone home? On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Laura Golias wrote: > not too old, just don't care. > I'm both! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 20:24:02 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: tweens On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Miles Goosens wrote: > > I'll buy that, but I think it certainly has precedents in the '90s > with the Spice Girls and Britney and such. I sure remember my > now-21-year-old first cousin being very, very tweenish before Hannah > Montana was a glimmer in Disney's eye. > You refer, of course, to the "pre-tween" movement. See also "proto-tween" (Monkees, Brady Kids, etc.). - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 00:10:31 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: non-Robyn news that will cause instant Feglist orgasm tc says: >>> I can't even be bothered to meh. >> >> i want that on a t-shirt > > http://www.cafepress.com/DenisVengeance.403659494# i really tried to come up with a reply to this that didn't involve an inappropriate amount of flirting. i give up. xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 00:12:37 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: non-Robyn news that will cause instant Feglist orgasm On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 9:10 PM, lep wrote: > tc says: >>>> I can't even be bothered to meh. >>> >>> i want that on a t-shirt >> >> http://www.cafepress.com/DenisVengeance.403659494# > > i really tried to come up with a reply to this that didn't involve an > inappropriate amount of flirting. > > i give up. What I can't grasp is why this thread is showing in gmail with a sidebar advertising a variety of "Impeach Obama," flag-waving patriotismist merchandise. Man, I've always hated that kind of crap. Which is only natural coming from a family of working-class Souther'n New Dealers; I still cherish the memory of going to the county fair in 1968, where some hustler bestowed a "George Wallace For President" button on my dad which he promptly attached to the fly of his jeans, where it remained for the rest of the day. And who was gonna argue with a big, mean, drunken cop about what might or might not be appropriate behavior? Nobody in the wilds of exurban LA County in 1968, that's who... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 03:38:34 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: non-Robyn news that will cause instant Feglist orgasm kevin says: > What I can't grasp is why this thread is showing in gmail with a > sidebar advertising a variety of "Impeach Obama," flag-waving > patriotismist merchandise. a puzzle, yay. it seems odd to me, as well. especially since my gmail text ad is for a good deal of all four seasons of BSG on DVD (which, BTW, if gmail can't frakking figure out that i already them, they clearly need to hire me.) when did the text ad start? perhaps when the non-indifferent fegs suspected the indifferent fegs of engaging in a bit of hatin'? as ever, lauren P.S. BTW, i seriously never notice the gmail text ads unless someone mentions one. i'm good at ignoring things that aren't relevant to my train of thought (i correlate this with my highly-skewed "N" score in my myers-briggs). it's either a good skill or a bad one, depending on whether i'm trying to learn mathematics, or walking around the city. i think it's the same thing that makes this puzzle easy enough that it's really more of a picture than a puzzle: http://www.moillusions.com/2006/04/coffe-illusion.html (i'd be interested in whether others find it easy or not** and, then, you know, feel free to correlate it with your myers-briggs type. and don't think the fun starts there - perhaps stewart will join me in a bit of regression analysis.) ** not in like a "...and then i can Judge You" way, but in an "interesting how people aren't identical" way. - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 09:55:51 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: non-Robyn news that will cause instant Feglist orgasm - -- lep is rumored to have mumbled on 23. August 2009 03:38:34 -0400 regarding Re: non-Robyn news that will cause instant Feglist orgasm: > i think it's the same thing that makes this puzzle easy enough that > it's really more of a picture than a puzzle: > http://www.moillusions.com/2006/04/coffe-illusion.html > > (i'd be interested in whether others find it easy or not** and, then, > you know, feel free to correlate it with your myers-briggs type. It took me a few minutes to find it. Part of that may have been that I misunderstood the task. I thought the beans formed a face somehow. Anyway, I'm pretty much the opposite of you - I'm very low on N and pretty high on S, which means I notice most of what's going on around me. That also has both its advantages and disadvantages. What I do not intuitively understand (sic!) is what that has to do with this puzzle? - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 00:58:59 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: non-Robyn news that will cause instant Feglist orgasm On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 9:10 PM, lep wrote: > tc says: > >>> I can't even be bothered to meh. > >> > >> i want that on a t-shirt > > > > http://www.cafepress.com/DenisVengeance.403659494# > > i really tried to come up with a reply to this that didn't involve an > inappropriate amount of flirting. > > i give up. > So then you will of course proceed with the reply that DOES involve an inappropriate amount of flirting? There are precedents hereabouts, you know... - -Rex, who may have met a wife or two hereabouts ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:57:30 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: NEW on DiME:Robyn Hitchcock/Egyptians Uptown Lounge, Athens, GA 1988-03-25 Robyn Hitchcock and the Egyptians Uptown Lounge, Athens, GA 1988-03-25 1. 2. I Often Dream of Trains 3. Sometimes I Wish I Was a Pretty Girl 4. The Cars She Used to Drive 5. 6. Acid Brid 7. 8. Bass 9. Tropical Flesh Mandala 10. 11. Airscape 12. I'm Only You 13. 14. Birdshead 15. 16. Flesh #1 (Beatle Dennis) 17. 18. Balloon Man 19. 20. Chinese Bones 21. 22. If You Were a Priest 23. The Man with the Lightbulb Head 24. 25. Heaven 26. 27. Uncorrected Personality Traits 28. Listening to the Higsons 29. 30. Queen of Eyes 31. 32. Globe of Frogs Line Up: Robyn Hitchcock Andy Metcalf Morris Windsor No Artwork Taped from FM radio-- sounds like a college radio station broadcast Excellent Sound Received a copy of this tape from my brother-in-law so I have no idea the number of generations. Those of you who have had to opportunity to see Hitchcock live (solo or otherwise) know he spends quite a bit of time between songs chatting and making comments. That's why there's so many blank listings. This is a very good listen. http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=263355 my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 13:14:53 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: REAP that probably gave Lauren Elizabeth a heart attack for a moment. No relation. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 13:17:38 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: non-Robyn news that will cause instant Feglist orgasm On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 2:58 AM, Rex wrote: > On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 9:10 PM, lep wrote: > > > tc says: > > >>> I can't even be bothered to meh. > > >> > > >> i want that on a t-shirt > > > > > > http://www.cafepress.com/DenisVengeance.403659494# > > > > i really tried to come up with a reply to this that didn't involve an > > inappropriate amount of flirting. > > So then you will of course proceed with the reply that DOES involve an > inappropriate amount of flirting? > > -Rex, who may have met a wife or two hereabouts Wait a minute - which wife did you meet on feglist? Or are you just now coming out as a polygamist? ;-) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 13:24:24 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: so, uh... ...why is Quentin Tarantino spelling things wrong anyway? - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 13:16:43 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: so, uh... On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 11:24 AM, 2fs wrote: > ...why is Quentin Tarantino spelling things wrong anyway? > > -- > > ...Jeff Norman He's a rebel who makes his own rules. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:33:18 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: so, uh... On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 3:16 PM, kevin studyvin wrote: > On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 11:24 AM, 2fs wrote: > > ...why is Quentin Tarantino spelling things wrong anyway? > > > > -- > > > > ...Jeff Norman > > > He's a rebel who makes his own rules. I've alwiz admarred rebles who make thair oun rools. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:36:23 -0400 From: m swedene Subject: Re: so, uh... my wife asked the same question. apparently QT doesn't need to spell. as long as he can sign the checks he is ok. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 01:00:09 +0100 From: Dr John Halewood Subject: RE: non-Robyn news that will cause instant Feglist orgasm lep muttered darkly: > i think it's the same thing that makes this puzzle easy enough that > it's really more of a picture than a puzzle: > http://www.moillusions.com/2006/04/coffe-illusion.html > > (i'd be interested in whether others find it easy or not** and, then, > you know, feel free to correlate it with your myers-briggs type. and > don't think the fun starts there - perhaps stewart will join me in a > bit of regression analysis.) Dunno, in about 30 seconds I'd found half a dozen faces, one of the Banana Splits (Fleagle? - the one with the helmet on) and a whole bunch of other stuff that doesn't bear recounting, apart from a sudden burst of "Trumpton Riots" by Half Man Half Biscuit in my head whilst staring at it. In MB-space I'm always N, usually I, but the others are subject to change (probably depending on which head I'm wearing, but preferably not the one that does non linear differential equations for fun). john ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:05:42 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: Cortez the Killer For a more nuanced view of this episode, W.C. Williams' "The Destruction of Tenochtitlan" is some magnificent reading. Not as much guitar virtuosity though. J On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Great Quail wrote: > Cortex the Killer is my favorite Neil Young song. But the lyrics are a > hoot: > > "Hate was just a legend > And war was never known > The people worked together > And they lifted many stones." > > Ha ha ha! He's talking about the AZTECS! Everyone knows they are the most > asshole Civ to find on your goddamn map. > > --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 22:21:42 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: non-Robyn news that will cause instant Feglist orgasm Sebastian says: > -- lep is rumored to have mumbled on 23. August 2009 > 03:38:34 -0400 regarding Re: non-Robyn news that will cause instant Feglist > orgasm: > >> i think it's the same thing that makes this puzzle easy enough that >> it's really more of a picture than a puzzle: >> http://www.moillusions.com/2006/04/coffe-illusion.html >> >> (i'd be interested in whether others find it easy or not** and, then, >> you know, feel free to correlate it with your myers-briggs type. > > It took me a few minutes to find it. Part of that may have been that I > misunderstood the task. I thought the beans formed a face somehow. Anyway, > I'm pretty much the opposite of you - I'm very low on N and pretty high on > S, which means I notice most of what's going on around me. That also has > both its advantages and disadvantages. > > What I do not intuitively understand (sic!) is what that has to do with this > puzzle? my thought on this is that someone with a strong "S" predilection would tend to look at it bean by bean as opposed to what I imagine to be an "N" tactic of looking at the whole thing to scan for the weirdo bean. BTW, i also have a theory re: misunderstanding the task: it will take longer. xo p.s. i confess i find it a bit of a wonder that my theory-generating skills aren't given proper recognition any place except inside my own brain. go figure. - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:37:05 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: non-Robyn news that will cause instant Feglist orgasm On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Dr John Halewood wrote: > lep muttered darkly: > > i think it's the same thing that makes this puzzle easy enough that > > it's really more of a picture than a puzzle: > > http://www.moillusions.com/2006/04/coffe-illusion.html > > > > (i'd be interested in whether others find it easy or not** and, then, > > you know, feel free to correlate it with your myers-briggs type. and > > don't think the fun starts there - perhaps stewart will join me in a > > bit of regression analysis.) > > Dunno, in about 30 seconds I'd found half a dozen faces, one of the Banana > Splits (Fleagle? - the one with the helmet on) and a whole bunch of other > stuff that doesn't bear recounting, apart from a sudden burst of "Trumpton > Riots" by Half Man Half Biscuit in my head whilst staring at it. But these are hypothetical faces - there's an actual, literal face in that image. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 22:40:40 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: non-Robyn news that will cause instant Feglist orgasm Dr John Halewood says: > lep muttered darkly: >> i think it's the same thing that makes this puzzle easy enough that >> it's really more of a picture than a puzzle: >> http://www.moillusions.com/2006/04/coffe-illusion.html >> >> (i'd be interested in whether others find it easy or not** and, then, >> you know, feel free to correlate it with your myers-briggs type. and >> don't think the fun starts there - perhaps stewart will join me in a >> bit of regression analysis.) > > Dunno, in about 30 seconds I'd found half a dozen faces, one of the Banana > Splits (Fleagle? - the one with the helmet on) and a whole bunch of other > stuff that doesn't bear recounting, apart from a sudden burst of "Trumpton > Riots" by Half Man Half Biscuit in my head whilst staring at it. In MB-space > I'm always N, usually I, but the others are subject to change (probably > depending on which head I'm wearing but preferably not the one that does > non linear differential equations for fun). myers-briggs just gives a basic construct for personality preferences; it doesn't account for neurosis, art school, or psychedelic usage. xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 22:44:55 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: Mad Men Great Quail says: > You can ask any group of "Mad Men" fans "What is the show about?", and you > will get different answers, all of them essentially valid. It's about the > nature, effects, and consequence of advertising. It's about the erosion of > authenticity and its replacement with simulacra. It's about middle age > dissatisfaction and despair. It's about fidelity and infidelity. It's about > the decline of the white male power structure. It's about the decay of > institutions. It's about the changes to American life between World War II > and Vietnam, between Eisenhower's presidency and Kennedy's assassination. > It's about the gradual shift of the American zeitgeist from the East Coast > to the West Coast. they're wrong: it's about smoking. xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 22:25:07 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Mad Men On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 9:44 PM, lep wrote: > Great Quail says: >> You can ask any group of "Mad Men" fans "What is the show about?", and you >> will get different answers, all of them essentially valid. It's about the >> nature, effects, and consequence of advertising. It's about the erosion of >> authenticity and its replacement with simulacra. It's about middle age >> dissatisfaction and despair. It's about fidelity and infidelity. It's about >> the decline of the white male power structure. It's about the decay of >> institutions. It's about the changes to American life between World War II >> and Vietnam, between Eisenhower's presidency and Kennedy's assassination. >> It's about the gradual shift of the American zeitgeist from the East Coast >> to the West Coast. > > they're wrong: it's about smoking. And drinking. But mostly smoking. later, Miles - -- now with blogspot retsin! http://readingpronunciation.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V17 #229 ********************************