From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V17 #224 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, August 18 2009 Volume 17 : Number 224 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Faux-Beatles songs... [Michael Sweeney ] Re: suspicious Mac query [kevin studyvin ] Re: Long Trip Out [kevin studyvin ] Re: Faux-Beatles songs... [2fs ] Betrayed by my own iPod! [Christopher Gross ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V17 #223 [James Dignan ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V17 #223 [kevin studyvin ] Fox News host Glenn Beck now has lost close to 20 corporate sponsors for stating that Obama is a "racist" with "a deep-seated hatred for white people" [] Re: to feg-parents [Rex ] Re: Robyn Hitchcock Reissues: Yep Roc vs. Rhino etc. [Rex ] Re: Ponyo reminder (NR) [kevin studyvin ] yay (~33% "curb your enthusiasm", ~67% other television shows) [lep ] Re: yay (~33% "curb your enthusiasm", ~67% other television shows) [Miles] Mrs. Robinson [Jeremy Osner ] Re: yay (~33% "curb your enthusiasm", ~67% other television shows) [2fs <] a feg fave hits the big-time...sorta [2fs ] Re: Fox News host Glenn Beck now has lost close to 20 corporate sponsors for stating that Obama is a "racist" with "a deep-seated hatred for white people" [] Re: Ponyo reminder (NR) [Steve Schiavo ] Mad Men [Great Quail ] Re: yay (~33% "curb your enthusiasm", ~67% other television shows) [lep <] Re: Mad Men [2fs ] Re: Ponyo reminder (NR) [2fs ] Re: Robyn Hitchcock Reissues: Yep Roc vs. Rhino etc.(Final listing !??) [] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:28:07 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: Faux-Beatles songs... ...I believe we may have had a thread on this (or sorta) over the last few years, but...I just (fortuitously) heard Grant Lee's "Mockngbirds" on Sirius...and I have to repeat what always immediately leaps to my longime Fabs-soaked mind when I hear this: That has to be about the best "John Lennon song" since 1980... Michael "Strangely, I also often think of 'Black Hole Sun' as a very Lennon-ish song..." Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON: WL:en-US:SI_SB_online:082009 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:43:46 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: suspicious Mac query > (Also: why on earth do some people write "Mac" MAC as if it's an > acronym...?) For the same reason some people write FAX instead of fax, I reckon. Another minor irritant was people writing "Watts line" for WATS before that (actual) acronym morphed into "800 number." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:53:13 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Long Trip Out > i'm of the mind that listening to the song "heroin" a few too many > times is a necessary condition for finding god. > > i recommend "the velvet underground & nico" (the andy warhol/banana > album) and the album entitled, i believe, "the velvet underground." > the later has "pale blue eyes", the saddest song there ever was. > On further consideration I have to come back with my conviction that the Saddest Song Ever is Ian Tyson's "Four Strong Winds." Although "Pale Blue Eyes" is definitely in the top ten. Whatever they might be. Then we have the opposite of sad - yesterday's Get Fuzzy: http://comics.com/get_fuzzy/2009-08-16/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:07:38 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Faux-Beatles songs... On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Michael Sweeney wrote: > ...I believe we may have had a thread on this (or sorta) over the last few > years, but...I just (fortuitously) heard Grant Lee's "Mockngbirds" on > Sirius...and I have to repeat what always immediately leaps to my longime > Fabs-soaked mind when I hear this: That has to be about the best "John > Lennon > song" since 1980... Yeah - what the hell has he been up to all these years? Haven't heard a peep. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:06:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Betrayed by my own iPod! Apologies to those who receive more than one copy of this.... So my iPod, which was working fine just recently, asks to be restored (to factory settings). I obediently restore it and reload about a hundred gigs of music, plus some videos and photos, taking a couple of hours. Everything looks fine. I disconnect the iPod properly. Then, disaster. It says "No Music," "No Videos," "No Etc." All the approximately one hundred gigs of music and whatnot now show up as "Other," both in the iPod's settings and when viewing the iPod in iTunes. Made sure my software was up to date and tried again, with exactly the same results. The iPod works, you can view the clock and play the games and whatnot, but all my media is un-playable. So -- any ideas about how to fix this? It's a 2007-vintage 160 GB iPod Classic, used with a MacBook Pro running OS X 10.4.11. Thanks. - --Chris np: nothing ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:40:08 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V17 #223 >Whereas I was listening to it a dream last night. One of those >wannabe-whimsical numbers they pretty much stopped messing with after >parting ways with Andrew Oldham. Whose memoirs, Stoned and 2Stoned, >are crazy entertaining, btw. Seconded. I'd also recommend the lightweight but hilarious "You don't have to say you love me" by Simon Napier-Bell. As far as recent threads go: I'm in the Beatles camp, so don't know as much of the Stones as I probably should (and definitely think that after about 1975 they became pretty much the world's best Stones parody band). Surprised therce are listmembers who don't know much VU (I can remember writing a newspaper article where I listed VU&Nico as one of my 20favouzrite/ greatest/most influential rock albums of all time (It wa s a pretty patchy list, but it was, by definition, a mix of favourites and greatest. And just 20? Come on...but what an opportunity to write something like that!) James (PS -sorry for any typls - I have a cat sitting on my lap, and he seexms to be fascinated byz the computer keysv) - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:25:53 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V17 #223 On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 4:40 PM, James Dignan wrote: >> Whereas I was listening to it a dream last night. One of those >> wannabe-whimsical numbers they pretty much stopped messing with after >> parting ways with Andrew Oldham. Whose memoirs, Stoned and 2Stoned, >> are crazy entertaining, btw. > > Seconded. I'd also recommend the lightweight but hilarious "You don't have > to say you love me" by Simon Napier-Bell. > > As far as recent threads go: I'm in the Beatles camp, so don't know as much > of the Stones as I probably should (and definitely think that after about > 1975 they became pretty much the world's best Stones parody band). I'll still give 'em Some Girls and Emotional Rescue, but pretty much lost interest after that. Surprised> therce are listmembers who don't know much VU Yeah, how else are they gonna choose sides wisely in the perpetual Reed-vs-Cale debate? (I can remember writing a > newspaper article where I listed VU&Nico as one of my 20favouzrite/ > greatest/most influential rock albums of all time (It wa s a pretty > patchy list, but it was, by definition, a mix of favourites and greatest. > And just 20? Come on...but what an opportunity to write something like > that!) Yah, I'm sure most of this crew could reel off 20 without pausing for breath... > > James > > (PS -sorry for any typls - I have a cat sitting on my lap, and he seexms to > be fascinated byz the computer keysv) There are worse collaborators. At least he can't see Alaska from there. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 01:36:18 +0000 (UTC) From: michaeljbachman@comcast.net Subject: Fox News host Glenn Beck now has lost close to 20 corporate sponsors for stating that Obama is a "racist" with "a deep-seated hatred for white people" Walmart, Allergan (maker of Restasis), Ally Bank (a unit of GMAC Financial Services), Best Buy, Red Lobster, Broadview Security (formerly Brinks Security), CVS, Re-Bath andB TravelocityB recently joined the previous Geico, Proctor and Gamble, Mens Warehouse, State Farm, Sargento Cheese, Lawyers.Com, Progressive Insurance, ConAgra, Radio Shack in pulling sponsorship of the Glenn Beck show on Fox News. I guess hate speech does have consequences after all! Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:22:46 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: to feg-parents On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Tom Clark wrote: > On Aug 16, 2009, at 8:18 PM, kevin studyvin wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 7:36 PM, 2fs wrote: >> >>> >>> So, uh, I'm confused. If "tweens" are in high school, who the hell are >>> "teens" then? >>> >> > Tweens aren't in high school - they want to emulate those that are in high > school. Depending on the kid, I'd peg the tween years as somewhere between > 7 and 11. They can go from playing with dolls to telling you to shove your > neosocialist worldview up your ass at the drop of a hat. I've seen it. > Part of the confusion probably comes from the fact that the Defining Document of Tweendom was entitled "High School Musical". It should be understood that this text relates to actual "highs school" in no way whatsoever, least of all "reflecting it in any way" or "watchable by anyone enrolled in it". I think the tween thing can extend up to 13 in some cases, and I have heard disturbing reports of actual preschoolers being heavily into Zach & Cody. But really, PONYO PONYO PONYO, she's a little girl! She's a little girl with a round tum-mee! - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:27:03 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Robyn Hitchcock Reissues: Yep Roc vs. Rhino etc. On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 4:31 PM, wrote: > > What is interesting as well is to consider as well the album "You And > Oblivion". Although not re-issued as such, more than half of this CD can > be > found on When Thatcher Mauled Britain. > > What is missing from the original 22-track disc is: > > "Don't You" > "Mr Rock & Roll" > "The Dust" > "Polly On The Shore" > "Aether" > "Into It" > "Keeping Still" > "Ghost Ship" > "You & Me" > > I wonder if these will ever re-surface? > Holy shit-- essential stuff, a lot of those! - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:27:11 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Fox News host Glenn Beck now has lost close to 20 corporate sponsors for stating that Obama is a "racist" with "a deep-seated hatred for white people" On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 6:36 PM, wrote: > Walmart, Allergan (maker of Restasis), Ally Bank (a unit of GMAC Financial > Services), Best Buy, Red Lobster, Broadview Security (formerly Brinks > Security), CVS, Re-Bath andB TravelocityB recently joined the previous Geico, > Proctor and Gamble, Mens Warehouse, State Farm, Sargento Cheese, Lawyers.Com, > Progressive Insurance, ConAgra, Radio Shack in pulling sponsorship of the > Glenn Beck show on Fox News. > > > > I guess hate speech does have consequences after all! Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. But now he's liable to become a martyr to the wacko right. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:32:47 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Ponyo reminder (NR) On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Steve Schiavo wrote: > For those so inclined, Ponyo opens "wide" (about 800 screens) in the US > tomorrow, and there are some midnight shows tonight. > Eden and I saw it twice over the weekend. There are many who hate us now. Haaammmm! - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:50:25 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Ponyo reminder (NR) On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Rex wrote: > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Steve Schiavo wrote: > >> For those so inclined, Ponyo opens "wide" (about 800 screens) in the US >> tomorrow, and there are some midnight shows tonight. >> > > Eden and I saw it twice over the weekend. > > There are many who hate us now. > > Haaammmm! > -Rex Is this thing strictly an anime product? 'Cause the spots I've seen on the tee-vee are eerily reminiscent of the late great Crockett Johnson's work. We're happy to report that our ugly fucked-up crazy-person-house-looking front door with the ancient bubbly varnish and weird plexiglass "window" has finally been replaced by a beautiful new door with a sweet walnut stain and wonderful new hardware in place of the balky latch and loose, rattly doorknob. It was hard to find a decent door on account of the place is 90 years old and the doors and windows are all in sizes nobody's made since the sixties...but boy does that baby look nice now. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 01:32:47 -0400 From: lep Subject: yay (~33% "curb your enthusiasm", ~67% other television shows) i just noticed this on IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0264235/episodes#season-7 xo p.s. is it just me, or did global awareness of "mad man" reach critical mass somewhere around the middle of last week? i only recently became aware of the existence of this show due to "its relation to our dear mrs. reynolds." p.p.s. also, isn't house (from the series "house") supposed to be a jerk? i've seen only a few episodes, but his character seems rather admirable to me. he's a grouch and a bit oblvious to normal social cues but IMO that doesn't necessarily make someone a jerk. - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 01:37:39 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: yay (~33% "curb your enthusiasm", ~67% other television shows) lep says: > "its > relation to our dear mrs. reynolds." i see that one of those quotation marks is in a very silly place. xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 01:41:30 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: yay (~33% "curb your enthusiasm", ~67% other television shows) > lep says: > >> "its >> relation to our dear mrs. reynolds." > > i see that one of those quotation marks is in a very silly place. and apparently she's just mrs. reynolds: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0579532/ (in my heart, she will remain dear mrs. reynolds, her being such a babe and whatnot.) xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:47:37 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: yay (~33% "curb your enthusiasm", ~67% other television shows) > p.s. is it just me, or did global awareness of "mad man" reach > critical mass somewhere around the middle of last week? i only > recently became aware of the existence of this show due to "its > relation to our dear mrs. reynolds." Something about that show put me off right from the start. There was too much of an aura of the producers & writers oozing smugness over their special brand of coolness. > > p.p.s. also, isn't house (from the series "house") supposed to be a > jerk? i've seen only a few episodes, but his character seems rather > admirable to me. he's a grouch and a bit oblvious to normal social > cues but IMO that doesn't necessarily make someone a jerk. He's a loveable outlaw who makes his own rules. At this point I'm seriously tired of pretty much everybody on that show except House and Dr. Cutty. And probably Foreman. The rest of the characters have just gotten annoying. Now I'm just waiting for the return of Fringe. Agent Dunham and I have a special relationship. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 03:05:21 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: yay (~33% "curb your enthusiasm", ~67% other television shows) kevin says: >> p.s. is it just me, or did global awareness of "mad man" reach >> critical mass somewhere around the middle of last week? i only >> recently became aware of the existence of this show due to "its >> relation to our dear mrs. reynolds." > > Something about that show put me off right from the start. There was > too much of an aura of the producers & writers oozing smugness over > their special brand of coolness. that's fine because now i can feel hip for failing to watch it. >> p.p.s. also, isn't house (from the series "house") supposed to be a >> jerk? i've seen only a few episodes, but his character seems rather >> admirable to me. he's a grouch and a bit oblvious to normal social >> cues but IMO that doesn't necessarily make someone a jerk. > > He's a loveable outlaw who makes his own rules. oh, that would explain why i find him a bit sexy. i think two people have described him to me as being a misanthrope; from what i've seen of this show, that rather misses the mark. > Now I'm just waiting for the return of Fringe. Agent Dunham and I > have a special relationship. now, kevin, i'm sure it's special, but i'm also sure it's no where the special relationship i have with agent mulder. one of these days, i'll have to watch an episode or two of "fringe." although, i've got my standard-issue reason for never having seen it which is that i don't know when it's on. or it conflicts with "nova." xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:25:40 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: yay (~33% "curb your enthusiasm", ~67% other television shows) - --On 18. August 2009 01:32:47 -0400 lep wrote: > p.s. is it just me, or did global awareness of "mad man" reach > critical mass somewhere around the middle of last week? i only > recently became aware of the existence of this show due to "its > relation to our dear mrs. reynolds." You're missing out. It's the best thing on TV right now. > p.p.s. also, isn't house (from the series "house") supposed to be a > jerk? i've seen only a few episodes, but his character seems rather > admirable to me. he's a grouch and a bit oblvious to normal social > cues but IMO that doesn't necessarily make someone a jerk. True, but that he doesn't care about the patients but only about fixing the problem at hand to satisfy his ego does. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:26:54 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: yay (~33% "curb your enthusiasm", ~67% other television shows) - --On 17. August 2009 22:47:37 -0700 kevin studyvin wrote: > Something about that show put me off right from the start. There was > too much of an aura of the producers & writers oozing smugness over > their special brand of coolness. Maybe, but they have something to be smug about, so that's OK with me. Let there be smugness! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 00:49:04 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: yay (~33% "curb your enthusiasm", ~67% other television shows) >> Now I'm just waiting for the return of Fringe. Agent Dunham and I >> have a special relationship. > > now, kevin, i'm sure it's special, but i'm also sure it's no where the > special relationship i have with agent mulder. > > one of these days, i'll have to watch an episode or two of "fringe." > although, i've got my standard-issue reason for never having seen it > which is that i don't know when it's on. or it conflicts with "nova." The first two seasons are on Netflix. I urge you to at least check out the pilot, where we meet dissolute international hustler Pacey (I can't remember either the actor's or the character's name, but he'll always be Pacey to me) and his father Walter (the only no-fooling Mad Scientist in prime time) when they're shanghaied into the custody of the Valkyrie-esque Agent Dunham of Homeland Security. Who adheres strictly to the X-Files dress code - no prints, no bright colors, clothes so chic and tailored that no honest cop could ever afford them - - and projects just a hint of Nico now and then, but without the sociopathic tendencies. It's the kind of classic pulp that Doc Savage would be right at home in, only with better (or more - or at least more contemporary) writers. And you could probably generate any number of stupid drinking games around it, like you have to have a shot whenever Walter makes a reference to psychedelics... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 05:47:14 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Participatory democracy in action http://www.calamitiesofnature.com/images/blog/nhprotest.jpg ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 06:06:14 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: yay (~33% "curb your enthusiasm", ~67% other television shows) On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 12:47 AM, kevin studyvin wrote: >> p.s. is it just me, or did global awareness of "mad man" reach >> critical mass somewhere around the middle of last week? i only >> recently became aware of the existence of this show due to "its >> relation to our dear mrs. reynolds." > > Something about that show put me off right from the start. There was > too much of an aura of the producers & writers oozing smugness over > their special brand of coolness. That's not the first time I've heard that reaction, but that's sooooo not my reaction. It's the best show on TV right now. later, Miles - -- now with blogspot retsin! http://readingpronunciation.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:45:24 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Mrs. Robinson Here's something kinda cool/silly, an old tape of RH covering Simon and Garfunkel: http://ok-cleek.com/blogs/?p=6605 J ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:19:05 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: yay (~33% "curb your enthusiasm", ~67% other television shows) On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 2:05 AM, lep wrote: > > > > > He's a loveable outlaw who makes his own rules. > > oh, that would explain why i find him a bit sexy. One of my friends looks astonishingly like Hugh Laurie... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:27:30 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: a feg fave hits the big-time...sorta uses as its soundtrack none other than Anton Barbeau & Su Jordan's "Automatic Door"... (Amusing note: the head of Anton's US label notes that after not having sold anything for a few months, suddenly a few people have ordered the CD in the last day - yay YouTube accidental viral marketing!) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:29:57 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Fox News host Glenn Beck now has lost close to 20 corporate sponsors for stating that Obama is a "racist" with "a deep-seated hatred for white people" On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:27 PM, kevin studyvin wrote: > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 6:36 PM, wrote: > > Walmart, Allergan (maker of Restasis), Ally Bank (a unit of GMAC > Financial > > Services), Best Buy, Red Lobster, Broadview Security (formerly Brinks > > Security), CVS, Re-Bath andB TravelocityB recently joined the previous > Geico, > > Proctor and Gamble, Mens Warehouse, State Farm, Sargento Cheese, > Lawyers.Com, > > Progressive Insurance, ConAgra, Radio Shack in pulling sponsorship of the > > Glenn Beck show on Fox News. > > > > > > > > I guess hate speech does have consequences after all! > > Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. But now he's liable to become a > martyr to the wacko right. Sure...but the wacko right loves its martyrs and makes them up even if they don't exist... "The Liberal Conspiracy prevented Glenn Beck's garbage from being collected last week!" - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:42:32 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Re: Ponyo reminder (NR) On Aug 17, 2009, at 11:50 PM, kevin studyvin wrote: > Is this thing strictly an anime product? 'Cause the spots I've seen > on the tee-vee are eerily reminiscent of the late great Crockett > Johnson's work. Hand-drawn in Japan by Hayao Miyazaki and the Studio Ghibli crew. - - Steve __________ I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl with a scythe. - John ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:50:04 -0400 From: Great Quail Subject: Mad Men Sebastian writes, > You're missing out. It's the best thing on TV right now. In this case, my German friend and I agree on a video form of entertainment! I also believe that "Mad Men" is currently the best thing on television. It's subtle -- it takes a few consecutive episodes to really get a feel for it. But by the end of Season One, I was just in awe. The range of topics, subjects, and emotions that slowly come into focus during the course of the show is simply magnificent. You can ask any group of "Mad Men" fans "What is the show about?", and you will get different answers, all of them essentially valid. It's about the nature, effects, and consequence of advertising. It's about the erosion of authenticity and its replacement with simulacra. It's about middle age dissatisfaction and despair. It's about fidelity and infidelity. It's about the decline of the white male power structure. It's about the decay of institutions. It's about the changes to American life between World War II and Vietnam, between Eisenhower's presidency and Kennedy's assassination. It's about the gradual shift of the American zeitgeist from the East Coast to the West Coast. Sure, there are a few moments that may seem forced or a bit obvious; but they are few and far between. Overall, I place the show up there with masterpieces like "The Wire," "Battlestar Galactica," and the best seasons of "The Sopranos." Oh, and Christina Hendricks is in it. - --Quail "Mrs. Reynolds had me at hello" Quailster ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:11:12 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: yay (~33% "curb your enthusiasm", ~67% other television shows) jeff 2fs says: > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 2:05 AM, lep wrote: > >> >> > >> > He's a loveable outlaw who makes his own rules. >> >> oh, that would explain why i find him a bit sexy. > > > One of my friends looks astonishingly like Hugh Laurie... by chance is he a loveable outlaw who makes his own rules? xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:32:46 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Mad Men On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Great Quail wrote: > Sebastian writes, > > > You're missing out. It's the best thing on TV right now. > > In this case, my German friend and I agree on a video form of > entertainment! > I also believe that "Mad Men" is currently the best thing on television. > Oh, and Christina Hendricks is in it. > Hell yeah. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:34:33 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Ponyo reminder (NR) Apropos of almost nothing discussed below: am I the only weirdo who, in seeing the word "Ponyo," instantly thinks of that Kleenex Girl Wonder (Graham Smith) album from a few years back called _Ponyoak_? Oh. (But if Aaron Mandel were still here he might agree...) On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 7:42 AM, Steve Schiavo wrote: > On Aug 17, 2009, at 11:50 PM, kevin studyvin wrote: > > Is this thing strictly an anime product? 'Cause the spots I've seen >> on the tee-vee are eerily reminiscent of the late great Crockett >> Johnson's work. >> > > > Hand-drawn in Japan by Hayao Miyazaki and the Studio Ghibli crew. < > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayao_Miyazaki> > > > > > - Steve > __________ > I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl > with a scythe. - John > > > - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:36:08 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Re: Robyn Hitchcock Reissues: Yep Roc vs. Rhino etc.(Final listing !??) thanks !!! nice work my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ In a message dated 8/17/2009 1:48:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mdickerman623@yahoo.com writes: I did a similar analysis when the first box came out. It includes pretty much everything that's been mentioned and more: Black Snake Diamond Role The Man Who Invented Himself [Sax-less version, the Sax version is still in limbo] Brenda's Iron Sledge Do Policemen Sing? The Lizard Meat Acid Bird I Watch The Cars Out Of The Picture City Of Shame Love Bonus Tracks: All I Wanna Do Is Fall In Love [from Invisible Hitchcock] A Skull, A Suitcase & A Long Red Bottle Of Wine [from Invisible Hitchcock] It Was The Night [from Rhino edition] I Watch The Cars No. 2 [from Rhino edition] Give Me A Spanner Ralph [from Invisible Hitchcock] It's A Mystic Trip [from Invisible Hitchcock] Grooving On A Inner Plane [from Rhino edition] Happy The Golden Prince [from Rhino edition] Missing: Dancing On God's Thumb [from Rhino edition] Note: Nothing previously unreleased. I Often Dream Of Trains Nocturne (prelude) Sometimes I Wish I Was A Pretty Girl Cathedral Uncorrected Personality Traits Sounds Great When You're Dead Flavour Of Light Ye Sleeping Knights Of Jesus This Could Be The Day Trams Of Old London Furry Green Atom Bowl Heart Full Of Leaves Autumn Is Your Last Chance I Often Dream Of Trains Nocturne (Demise) Winter Love The Bones In The Ground My Favourite Buildings I Used To Say I Love You Bonus Tracks: Chant/Aether (alt) Heart Full Of Leaves (alternate) I Often Dream Of Trains (demo) Not Even A Nurse Slow Chant/That's Fantastic Mother Church Traveller's Fare Missing: Mellow Together [from Rhino edition] Sometimes I Wish I Was A Pretty Girl (demo) [from Rhino edition] Cathedral (demo) [from Rhino edition] Mellow Together (demo) [from Rhino edition] The Bones In The Ground (demo) [from Rhino edition] Note: Original LP running order restored with previous CD bonus tracks moved to the end. Eye Cynthia Mask Certainly Cliquot Queen Elvis Flesh Cartoons Chinese Water Python Executioner Linctus House Sweet Ghost Of Light Transparent Lover Beautiful Girl Clean Steve Raining Twilight Coast Agony Of Pleasure Glass Hotel Satellite Aquarium Queen Elvis II Bonus Tracks: Century Shimmering Distant Love Lovers Turn To Skulls The Beauty Of Earl's Court Missing: Agony Of Pleasure (demo) [from Rhino edition] Note: College Of Ice has moved to _Thatcher_. Running order from original LP is slightly altered. While Thatcher Mauled Britain She Reached For A Light [from You & Oblivion] August Hair [from You & Oblivion] Take Your Knife Out Of My Back [from You & Oblivion] - has a longer fade on _Thatcher_ and sounds like it has extra bass Fiend Before The Shrine [from You & Oblivion] Raymond Chandler Evening (demo) [from Rhino _Element Of Light_] Birdshead [from You & Oblivion] - missing backing vocals Victorian Squid [from You & Oblivion] You've Got [from You & Oblivion] Captain Dry [from You & Oblivion] Raining Twilight Coast (demo) [from Rhino _Eye_] Point It At Gran (alt) Vegetable Friend [from Invisible Hitchcock] Flesh Number 1 (demo) - same as Bucketful Of Brains flexi? Surgery [from You & Oblivion] - adds countdown at beginning I Got A Message For You [from Invisible Hitchcock] If I Could Look [from You & Oblivion] - has added reverb and is properly trimmed on _Thatcher_ (it has 27 seconds of silence at the end on _Oblivion_) Parachutes & Jellyfish Queen Elvis (demo) [from Rhino _Eye_] - adds countdown at beginning Nothing [from You & Oblivion] - properly trimmed on _Thatcher_ (it has 10 seconds of silence at the end on _Oblivion_) Stranded In The Future [from You & Oblivion] Melting Arthur The Abandoned Brain (demo) You're So Repulsive Opiatrescence September Cones [from You & Oblivion] Lovely Golden Villains Dr. Sticky (live) Toadboy Trash [from Invisible Hitchcock] Pit Of Souls (Country version) [from Invisible Hitchcock] Mr. Deadly [from Invisible Hitchcock] Let There Be More Darkness [from Invisible Hitchcock] Listening To The Higsons [from Invisible Hitchcock] College Of Ice [from Rhino _Eye_] My Favourite Buildings (original) [from Invisible Hitchcock] Lightplug Ye Sleeping Knights Of Jesus (demo) [from Rhino _IODOT_] - seems to be better left/right balanced than the Rhino version Insect Mother (demo) [from Rhino _Fegmania_] I Wanna Go Backwards Missing from _Invisible Hitchcock_: Blues In A Dr. Sticky Eaten By Her Own Dinner Falling Leaves Messages Of Dark Point It At Gran Star Of Hairs The Abandoned Brain Missing From _You & Oblivion_: Aether Don't You Into It Keeping Still Mr. Rock 'N' Roll Polly On The Shore The Dust The Ghost Ship You & Me ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V17 #224 ********************************