From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V17 #222 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Sunday, August 16 2009 Volume 17 : Number 222 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Queen Jane Barely [Jeremy Osner ] Robyn Hitchcock Reissues: Yep Roc vs. Rhino etc. [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] Oops ! Robyn Hitchcock Reissues: Yep Roc vs. Rhino etc. (correction) [Hwy] Re: Oops ! Robyn Hitchcock Reissues: Yep Roc vs. Rhino etc. (correction) [kevin studyvin ] Re: Robyn Hitchcock Reissues: Yep Roc vs. Rhino etc. [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] Robyn Hitchcock Reissues: Yep Roc vs. Rhino etc. [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] Re: Topic, what topic? [Jeff Margrave ] beatles remasters 090909 (BKA - The Day I Go Broke) [m swedene ] Re: Battlestar Galactica's weird neo-Luddism....(NR) [Steve Schiavo ] Re: Movie talk -- Rhinocerous [djini@voicenet.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 22:15:26 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: Queen Jane Barely The DRM song I was talking about before is: http://www.box.net/shared/6q45dojakz The tune I'm thinking about for this song is approximately: http://www.box.net/shared/akf5t1ylar J ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 08:22:22 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Robyn Hitchcock Reissues: Yep Roc vs. Rhino etc. Has anyone made a list (or a CD compilation) of material that has NOT made it to the Yep Roc reissued box sets that were originally available on Rhino (or other) versions ? There seem to be different versions of some tracks - and many bonus tracks are missing ("Dwarfbeat", many demo versions) and even ORIGINAL ALBUM TRACKS missing ("Mellow Together") . my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 08:50:44 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Oops ! Robyn Hitchcock Reissues: Yep Roc vs. Rhino etc. (correction) oops ! "Mellow Together" was not an original album track my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ In a message dated 8/15/2009 8:24:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, HwyCDRrev@aol.com writes: even ORIGINAL ALBUM TRACKS missing ("Mellow Together") . ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 11:04:56 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Oops ! Robyn Hitchcock Reissues: Yep Roc vs. Rhino etc. (correction) On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 5:50 AM, wrote: > oops ! "Mellow Together" was not an original album track > It is insanely funny, though. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 13:08:07 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Robyn Hitchcock Reissues: Yep Roc vs. Rhino etc. On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 7:22 AM, wrote: > Has anyone made a list (or a CD compilation) > of material that has NOT made it to the Yep Roc > reissued box sets that were originally available on > Rhino (or other) versions ? > > There seem to be different versions of some tracks - > and many bonus tracks are missing > ("Dwarfbeat", many demo versions) > and even ORIGINAL ALBUM TRACKS missing > ("Mellow Together") . > Don't know if anyone's made such a list...but "Mellow Together" is *not* an "original album track." It was on the original CD, I believe...but it is not on the original LP of IODOT (nor does it belong there, IMO - wholly different in character). Unless, of course, I'm mistaken, and the LP I bought way back when of IODOT was a different ediion from the original... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 14:44:59 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Oops ! Robyn Hitchcock Reissues: Yep Roc vs. Rhino etc. (correction) On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 1:04 PM, kevin studyvin wrote: > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 5:50 AM, wrote: > > oops ! "Mellow Together" was not an original album track > > > > It is insanely funny, though. Really, you think so? I've always found it to be considerably beneath the usual level of Robyn's humor or satire...relying on "dumb" voices and parodic stereotypes to make a not-all-that-brilliant point re excessive post-hippie idealism or some such. Not our man's shining hour if you ask me... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 13:08:44 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Oops ! Robyn Hitchcock Reissues: Yep Roc vs. Rhino etc. (correction) On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 12:44 PM, 2fs wrote: > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 1:04 PM, kevin studyvin wrote: >> >> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 5:50 AM, wrote: >> > oops ! "Mellow Together" was not an original album track >> > >> >> It is insanely funny, though. > > Really, you think so? I've always found it to be considerably beneath the > usual level of Robyn's humor or satire...relying on "dumb" voices and > parodic stereotypes to make a not-all-that-brilliant point re excessive > post-hippie idealism or some such. Not our man's shining hour if you ask > me... Laffs are where you find them, I suppose. To quote Michael O'Donoghue, "'Sophomoric' is the liberal word for funny." Or we can look at an episode from my high school daze, when I copied out a passage from Finnegans Wake on the blackboard at lunchtime only to be informed by our class Communist that "puns are the lowest form of humor," to which I cleverly replied, "eat my shorts." (Sadly, clean-living, drug-free Dave was the first of us to go when he had a massive heart attack at 26 - so, Dave, I take it back.) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 15:19:01 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?Battlestar_Galactica=92s_weird_neo-Luddism=85? = =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?=28NR=29?= Two science guys talking. You can click on the parts about BG. - - Steve __________ I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl with a scythe. - John ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:48:30 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: Topic, what topic? >* "Lord Cut-Glass" - Alun Woodward of the Delgados' new persona. Whatever happened to Captain Cat? >Michael Vick to the Philidephia Eagles And Emanuel Adebayor scored twice on his Man C debut. Thought the Gunners would miss him, but no - a stylish season opener from them! James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 19:31:14 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Re: Robyn Hitchcock Reissues: Yep Roc vs. Rhino etc. don't forget : there is also "Invisible Hitchcock" - and there are "different" versions of some songs as well (i think) like "Point It At Gran" , and the new "live" version of "Dr. Sticky" i basically only listen to CDs in the car these days (long commute) so i cannot live my life and study Robyn as intensely as i used to (which is probably a good thing) and is the missing live version of "Egyptian Cream" the added hidden bonus track on "Hen Out" ? There is still much work to do ! In a message dated 8/15/2009 5:13:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, toppopper@live.co.uk writes: What is interesting as well is to consider as well the album "You And Oblivion". Although not re-issued as such, more than half of this CD can be found on When Thatcher Mauled Britain. What is missing from the original 22-track disc is: "Don't You" "Mr Rock & Roll" "The Dust" "Polly On The Shore" "Aether" "Into It" "Keeping Still" "Ghost Ship" "You & Me" I wonder if these will ever re-surface? my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 19:43:10 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Robyn Hitchcock Reissues: Yep Roc vs. Rhino etc. First of all, thanks toppopper - !!! so far we have the following 25 tracks ( based on your list ) 1 "Dancing On God's Thumb". 2 "Man Who Invented Himself" (Aftermath) 3/4 "Mellow Together" and also the demo version. 5 demo "Sometimes I Wish I Was A Pretty Girl" (completely dropped); 6 demo "Cathedral" (completely dropped) 7 demo "The Bones In The Ground" (completely dropped). 8 demo of "Agony Of Pleasure". 9 "Dwarfbeat" 10/11 the demo and the live version(s) of "Egyptian Cream". (one more if the hidden track on GLTHO is different) 12 "The Can Opener" (completely gone); 13/14/15 the demo versions of "The President", "If You Were A Priest" and "The Leopard" (all completely lost); 16 the live version of "Airscape". 17 "Don't You" 18 "Mr Rock & Roll" 19 "The Dust" 20 "Polly On The Shore" 21 "Aether" 22 "Into It" 23 "Keeping Still" 24 "Ghost Ship" 25 "You & Me" my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ In a message dated 8/15/2009 5:13:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, toppopper@live.co.uk writes: ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:56:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Margrave Subject: Re: Topic, what topic? James Dignan wrote: > > Michael Vick to the Philidephia Eagles > > And Emanuel Adebayor scored twice on his Man C debut. > Thought the Gunners would miss him, but no - a stylish > season opener from them! Yeah, but is he coming back from two years in prison for anything as anti-social as being part of a dog-fighting ring? I'm not going to enjoy having to root for the bloody New York Giants to win the fooking NFC East since between the Eagles having Vick, the Washington Redskins' name, and the general principle of having to oppose all things Dallas Cowboys, that's the only option left.... "I love how (coffee) makes me feel. It's like my heart is trying to hug my brain!" -- Kenneth Parcell ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:06:31 -0400 From: m swedene Subject: beatles remasters 090909 (BKA - The Day I Go Broke) Has anyone else heard the 30 second snippets on Amazon? http://www.amazon.com/The-Beatles/e/B000APTK6K/ Granted they are extremely compressed but it sounds like they did some cool sonic stuff to them. (the clips are at the top right under the banner) Mike ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:13:54 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: Wilco Hi all - I've just been listening to Wilco's new album (Wilco, the album). I must say I'm more impressed with it than previous albums from them (I've always been lukewarm towards Wilco in the past - perhaps partly recording this one in NZ helped :). I have to ask one question, though - are they deliberately trying to channel George Harrison? "You never know" in particular - both the guitar break with it's "My sweet lord" pinch and all those diminished seventh chords in the bridge. "Sonny feeling", also has distinct Dark Horse vibes. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 18:21:24 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Re: Battlestar Galactica's weird neo-Luddism....(NR) That's what I get for copying the subject line from a web page. On Aug 15, 2009, at 3:19 PM, Steve Schiavo wrote: > > > Two science guys talking. You can click on the parts about BG. > > > > - Steve > __________ > I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone > girl with a scythe. - John > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:26:55 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Wilco On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 7:13 PM, James Dignan wrote: > Hi all - I've just been listening to Wilco's new album (Wilco, the album). > I must say I'm more impressed with it than previous albums from them (I've > always been lukewarm towards Wilco in the past - perhaps partly recording > this one in NZ helped :). > > I have to ask one question, though - are they deliberately trying to > channel George Harrison? "You never know" in particular - both the guitar > break with it's "My sweet lord" pinch and all those diminished seventh > chords in the bridge. > I'd say that one's pretty obviously an homage... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:51:00 -0400 (EDT) From: djini@voicenet.com Subject: Re: Movie talk -- Rhinocerous Jeremy wrote: > Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:15:11 -0400 > From: Jeremy Osner > Subject: Movie talk -- Rhinocerous > > So did you guys know that there is a movie of Ionesco's "Rhinocerous" and > that it furthermore stars Mostel and Wilder? It is an absolutely great movie > - -- I think it's also the first performance of any Ionesco play that I've > seen -- I'm wondering who wrote such an effective screenplay. > I saw it in high school, in my Theatre of the Absurd class. I swear, that class took my (abby) normal teen horror at the world in general and knocked it right out of the park. Ionesco, Pinter, Beckett, Brecht, Albee - great company for an angsty 16-year-old. Jeanne ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V17 #222 ********************************