From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V17 #221 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, August 14 2009 Volume 17 : Number 221 Today's Subjects: ----------------- The Fifth Beatle [Tom Clark ] Yikes! [Randall Riebe ] Re: The Fifth Beatle [Jeremy Osner ] Movie talk -- Rhinocerous [Jeremy Osner ] Re: Movie talk -- Rhinocerous [Jeremy Osner ] Way, way off-topic [kevin studyvin ] Re: Movie talk -- Rhinocerous [kevin studyvin ] Ponyo reminder (NR) [Steve Schiavo ] Re: Way, way off-topic [Tom Clark ] Re: The Fifth Beatle [Tom Clark ] Re: The Fifth Beatle [Jeremy Osner ] in Scottish (= awesome) music news ["Stewart C. Russell" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:31:29 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: The Fifth Beatle This is the film that Robyn wrote a few of the Oslo tracks for. http://fifthbeatlemovie.com/ - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:37:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Randall Riebe Subject: Yikes! Michael Vick to the Philidephia Eagles Always on topic, Vince ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:29:03 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: The Fifth Beatle He mentioned that on the WFUV interview, said he hopes it can get produced. Also he mentioned the scene that is going to be showing when we hear "I'm Falling" -- a creepily romantic bit which I've forgotten the details of. J On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Tom Clark wrote: > This is the film that Robyn wrote a few of the Oslo tracks for. > http://fifthbeatlemovie.com/ > > > -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:15:11 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Movie talk -- Rhinocerous So did you guys know that there is a movie of Ionesco's "Rhinocerous" and that it furthermore stars Mostel and Wilder? It is an absolutely great movie - -- I think it's also the first performance of any Ionesco play that I've seen -- I'm wondering who wrote such an effective screenplay. J ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:18:53 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: Movie talk -- Rhinocerous It was Julian Berry. (Anybody seen his movie Lenny? Worthwhile?) And now I am thinking maybe I heard about this movie on this very mailing list, I cannot remember for sure. On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:15 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > So did you guys know that there is a movie of Ionesco's "Rhinocerous" and > that it furthermore stars Mostel and Wilder? It is an absolutely great movie > -- I think it's also the first performance of any Ionesco play that I've > seen -- I'm wondering who wrote such an effective screenplay. > > J ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:30:52 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Way, way off-topic OK, granted I watch far too much of the tee-vee and there's probably something deeply wrong with me, but am I the only person out here who finds those palm pre commercials absolutely gorgeous? That sure doesn't seem to be the general response. np Sonic Youth, Goodbye 20th Century ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:32:54 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Movie talk -- Rhinocerous On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > It was Julian Berry. (Anybody seen his movie Lenny? Worthwhile?) And now I > am thinking maybe I heard about this movie on this very mailing list, I > cannot remember for sure. > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:15 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > >> So did you guys know that there is a movie of Ionesco's "Rhinocerous" and >> that it furthermore stars Mostel and Wilder? It is an absolutely great movie >> -- I think it's also the first performance of any Ionesco play that I've >> seen -- I'm wondering who wrote such an effective screenplay. It was on PBS back in the mid-seventies. I've forgotten most of the details but I recall thinking the end was brilliant. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:10:47 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Ponyo reminder (NR) For those so inclined, Ponyo opens "wide" (about 800 screens) in the US tomorrow, and there are some midnight shows tonight. reviews showtimes or - - Steve __________ I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl with a scythe. - John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:29:05 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Way, way off-topic On Aug 13, 2009, at 7:30 PM, kevin studyvin wrote: > OK, granted I watch far too much of the tee-vee and there's probably > something deeply wrong with me, but am I the only person out here who > finds those palm pre commercials absolutely gorgeous? That sure > doesn't seem to be the general response. I think the prevailing opinion is: Visually appealing, yes - but also kinda stupid. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:30:07 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: The Fifth Beatle That's where I heard it as well. I think the scene is something where Brian meets a guy in a bar in NY. - -tc On Aug 13, 2009, at 6:29 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > He mentioned that on the WFUV interview, said he hopes it can get > produced. > Also he mentioned the scene that is going to be showing when we hear > "I'm > Falling" -- a creepily romantic bit which I've forgotten the details > of. > J > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Tom Clark wrote: > >> This is the film that Robyn wrote a few of the Oslo tracks for. >> http://fifthbeatlemovie.com/ >> >> >> -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:37:00 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: The Fifth Beatle Yep, was just relistening to it -- "This is where Brian meets a nice boy in a New York nightclub..." On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Tom Clark wrote: > That's where I heard it as well. I think the scene is something where > Brian meets a guy in a bar in NY. > > -tc > > > On Aug 13, 2009, at 6:29 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > > He mentioned that on the WFUV interview, said he hopes it can get >> produced. >> Also he mentioned the scene that is going to be showing when we hear "I'm >> Falling" -- a creepily romantic bit which I've forgotten the details of. >> J >> >> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Tom Clark wrote: >> >> This is the film that Robyn wrote a few of the Oslo tracks for. >>> http://fifthbeatlemovie.com/ >>> >>> >>> -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 07:40:33 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: in Scottish (= awesome) music news * "Lord Cut-Glass" - Alun Woodward of the Delgados' new persona. * Alasdair Roberts - "Spoils" - the usually doleful folkie channels ISB and gets incredibly demented. And if you don't like Selkirk's own Frightened Rabbit, you are nothing but a prumphaensn. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 15:32:52 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?=20Pandora=E2=80=99s=20Boombox=20=20=20RIPPED=20How=2 0the=20?= =?UTF-8?Q?Wired=20Generation=20Revolutionized=20Music=20?= Pandorabs Boombox RIPPED How the Wired Generation Revolutionized Music By Greg Kot 262 pp. Scribner. $25 By DANA JENNINGS Published: August 13, 2009 I spent countless rapt hours taping my favorite songs off the radio when I was a kid. There were so many tunes, and I had so little money. (And if a motorcycle or a semi went blasting past the house as I taped, then a ballad like bCrimson and Cloverb would get some gritty meat on its ethereal bones.) But even back then, the record companies considered someone like me a sneak thief, a young blackguard. By taping, I was taking money out of their pockets, bread off the table and cocaine from the noses of their artists and executives. That battle between customer and music company has only intensified since. The listener screams, bLove!b The music executive screams, bTheft!b And the musician b same as it ever was b screams, bPay me!b Now Greg Kot, a music critic and co-host of a rock bnb roll radio talk show, tells us what happened in bRipped: How the Wired Generation Revolutionized Music,b his well-reported book about music in the Internet Age. bRippedb ranges from the days when the record companies gnashed their teeth over the growth of home taping, to music publishersb blunt attacks on sampling in hip-hop, to the life, death and canonization of Napster, to the iPod and beyond. It also examines the constant consolidation b in the music companies, in radio, in concert promotion b that helped lead to the industry bs implosion. Then there are the abject listeners, dissatisfied with the nonfat vanilla being dispensed on the radio and in the record stores b Backstreet Boys, anyone? But once they discover peer-to-peer file sharing and CD burners, there bs no holding them back. The record companies try their strong-arm tactics and lose. They canbt cope with the guerrilla savvy of kids who have computers and a bottomless thirst for music. Kot also writes about how established artists like Prince, Radiohead and Wilco (he is the author of a book about Wilco) thrived in the digital age because they didnbt sit around and whine like emo punks while musical civilization as we know it crumbled. He pays homage to acts that emerged during the turmoil b Death Cab for Cutie, Arcade Fire, Conor Oberst b and used it to their advantage. Still, the most fascinating part of the book is its retelling of how the big music companies committed capitalist suicide. The executives couldnbt get their analog heads around the digital future. If industry leaders had always followed their mistrust of technology, webd still be listening to music on 78-r.p.m. shellac, or maybe even wax cylinders. bRippedb is another case study in American industrial arrogance, an account of companies that couldnbt (or wouldnbt) learn agility. Instead of adapting to the new reality, they started calling their customers thieves. But, Kot writes, bthe moral posturing was a laughable new wrinkle. Herebs an industry that had instituted payola, routinely manipulated shady contracts to take away publishing from songwriters, and engaged in questionable accounting practices to deny royalties from record sales to the vast majority of its artists.b The major labels were never truly interested in intellectual property rights. They were interested in making money, and computer kids ripping music off the Internet meant far less money. Thom Yorke of Radiohead says: bThe idea that they are the victims of an immoral act is incredible to me. They claim to have the best interests of the artists at heart. Oh, really? They havenbt had the best interests of the artists in mind for 50 years.b Kot understands that itbs always entertaining to detail the thrash and roar of a carnivorous dinosaur in its death throes, as small and clever mammals b in this case, music lovers b win the day. Some dinosaurs are even contrite. Edgar Bronfman Jr., the chief executive of the Warner Music Group, said in 2007: bBy standing still or moving at a glacial pace, we inadvertently went to war with consumers by denying them what they wanted and could otherwise find. And as a result, of course, consumers won.b Dana Jennings is a reporter at The Times. His most recent book is bSing Me Back Home: Love, Death, and Country Music.b http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/16/books/review/Jennings-t.html?_r=1&8bu&emc= bua2 my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 22:00:59 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Queen Jane Barely Any feg listers who play guitar interested in making something of a song I wrote? I think it could be a really good song but I'm not the guitarist to make it happen. It is 8 bars in D, if you've heard David Rawlings Machine play Stagger Lee that is kind of the sound I am aiming for. Queen Jane Barely D A Well her mother sent back all her invitations G her father trying to explain D A How she was tired of living D A Poor Queen Jane Well all the ladies wanted their flowers back And the sweet sweet smell did not remain And none of her children would listen Poor Queen Jane chorus Poor Queen Jane 4x Wont you come see me Queen Jane. chords for the chorus are like the verse except I think it might be better not to go to A on the second measure, just hold on D. When all of Queen Jane's clowns had died Some in battle, some in vain And she was sick of hearing about it Poor Queen Jane Well her advisers tried to use their credit cards To tell the queen about her pain Because they wanted to get her in a panic Poor Queen Jane chorus So the highwaymen she wanted to treat with kindness Were pulling back and starting to complain And the queen just wanted some quiet Poor Queen Jane ~ ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V17 #221 ********************************