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fegmaniax-digest        Tuesday, August 4 2009        Volume 17 : Number 211



                               Today's Subjects:
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  Re: Shit-Howdy! A mid-year list of favorites!  [Great Quail <quail@shipwre]
  Re: New Tori Amos release                     [lep <softboygirl@gmail.com>]
  Re: "Follow The Money"             ["Nectar At Any Cost!" <etews@inwa.net>]
  Re: "Follow The Money"             ["Nectar At Any Cost!" <etews@inwa.net>]
  WWEAD? (What Would Eb's Ass Do?)   ["Nectar At Any Cost!" <etews@inwa.net>]
  Re:bands after pseudobands (slight return)  [James Dignan <grutness@slings]
  Re: Catching up: Duran Toad Porn  [James Dignan <grutness@slingshot.co.nz>]
  Movies: Little Children  [Sebastian Hagedorn <Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-koeln.de]
  Re: WWEAD? (What Would Eb's Ass Do?)  [kevin studyvin <kstudyvin@gmail.com]
  Re: bands after pseudobands (slight return)  [kevin studyvin <kstudyvin@gm]
  tech...                                     [2fs <jeffreyw2fs.j@gmail.com>]
  Firefly question (NR)                [Steve Schiavo <steveschiavo@mac.com>]
  Re: tech...                          [kevin studyvin <kstudyvin@gmail.com>]
  Re: tech...                                 [2fs <jeffreyw2fs.j@gmail.com>]
  Re: tech...                                    [Mike <m.swedene@gmail.com>]
  am I a hipster?                               [Jill Brand <jlbrand@bu.edu>]
  Re: am I a hipster?              [Great Quail <quail@shipwrecklibrary.com>]
  Re: "Follow The Money"                 [Christopher Gross <chrisg@gwu.edu>]
  Re: Firefly question (NR)              [Christopher Gross <chrisg@gwu.edu>]
  hipster or not? (fave albums so far)   ["John B. Jones" <jbj@tuthorse.net>]
  Anybody else coming to the Beacon on Thursday?  [Jeremy Osner <anacreon@gm]

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Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 14:27:15 -0400
From: Great Quail <quail@shipwrecklibrary.com>
Subject: Re: Shit-Howdy! A mid-year list of favorites!

Jeff writes,
 
> I'd have to say that that Costello album is way more country than that Case
> album...if it matters to anyone's genre classifications. (I prefer the Case
> album...the Costello's okay, but it hasn't really stuck yet.)

Yeah, you are of course right. I suppose it was just reflexes.

By the way, re: Pynchon and music:

http://www.themodernword.com/Pynchon/pynchon_music.html

- --Quail

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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:56:22 -0400
From: lep <softboygirl@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: New Tori Amos release

Dave <witzany@illinois.edu> says:
> WEFT received the album in a standard-issue plastic jewelcase.  If anyone is interested, I like this disc a bit better, now that I've listened to it a few more times.  It occurs to me that the songs are perfectly OK, the album is just Too Darn Long.  It's very listenable if I only play half of it at a sitting.  (I haven't any fainter praise than that.)

apparently i bought the special edition (i had to check.)  that's not
even a digi-pak, but all album-sleeve-y (which just means i put the
actual CD in a tyvek sleeve so i don't have to deal with packaging
issues)

album length has been an issue of mine re: tori, but i didn't notice
it with this album.  BTW, i very much like the album.  it's got a nice
groove.

xo

p.s. re: album length: i'm in agreement with glenn mcdonald of "the
war against silence" - at ~38 minutes, the magnetic fields' "the charm
of the highway strip" represents the perfect album length.

- -- 
"people with opinions just go around bothering one another."  -- the buddha

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Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 12:00:41 -0700
From: "Nectar At Any Cost!" <etews@inwa.net>
Subject: Re: "Follow The Money"

<Does that sound like medicine works like "clockwork"???>

okay, i concede the point -- the only one in your correspondence that i do,
for what it's worth.

if you were to provide citations, i might also concede the following:

<and polio cases were skyrocketing prior to the introduction of the
vaccine.>

<It's a nice hypothetical, but as thousands of diseases have passed Koch's
postulates, including AIDS, it's sort of a moot point.>



also wanted to clarify:

<<while one of NH's principle tenets is to take as much sleep as the body
asks for (i.e., never wake with an alarm clock).>>

<My girlfriend is a researcher for the NIH.  She's never heard of not using
an alarm clock as a tenet at all, much less as a principal tenet.>

NH, as in Natural Hygiene -- not NIH.


<Except your claim was that polio had declined 90% before the vaccine was
introduced.>

i said 90% - 100%, *in general* (and just eyeballing the graphs), and with
reference to the australian graphs (which did not include polio).

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Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 12:00:41 -0700
From: "Nectar At Any Cost!" <etews@inwa.net>
Subject: Re: "Follow The Money"

<Does that sound like medicine works like "clockwork"???>

okay, i concede the point -- the only one in your correspondence that i do,
for what it's worth.

if you were to provide citations, i might also concede the following:

<and polio cases were skyrocketing prior to the introduction of the
vaccine.>

<It's a nice hypothetical, but as thousands of diseases have passed Koch's
postulates, including AIDS, it's sort of a moot point.>



also wanted to clarify:

<<while one of NH's principle tenets is to take as much sleep as the body
asks for (i.e., never wake with an alarm clock).>>

<My girlfriend is a researcher for the NIH.  She's never heard of not using
an alarm clock as a tenet at all, much less as a principal tenet.>

NH, as in Natural Hygiene -- not NIH.


<Except your claim was that polio had declined 90% before the vaccine was
introduced.>

i said 90% - 100%, *in general* (and just eyeballing the graphs), and with
reference to the australian graphs (which did not include polio).

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Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 12:16:14 -0700
From: "Nectar At Any Cost!" <etews@inwa.net>
Subject: WWEAD? (What Would Eb's Ass Do?)

<But in my mind the similarly themed "The Killing" and most of all "The
Wages of Fear" are even better movies - at least in my faulty memory>

*Wages* is indeed awesome.  i find *The Killing* overrated, however.  check
out *Asphalt Jungle*.  probably my all-time fave heist movie, plus contains
probably my all-time fave movie quote.  (won't repeat it here so as not to
ruin its impact for those who've not yet viewed the flick.)


<But the list may change by the end of the year, as albums settle deeper
into my brain and new stuff comes out.>

sure, we all understand that.  your list at
<URL:http://fegmania.org/archives/fegmaniax/v17.n210> certainly did!


<3. "Interstellar 2," by Nordvargr>

oh, thanks.  can never keep up with him.


<Country>

what about slaid cleaves?

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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:45:21 +1200
From: James Dignan <grutness@slingshot.co.nz>
Subject: Re:bands after pseudobands (slight return)

>  >> A friend of mine asked, what do the bands Toad the Wet Sprocket and Heaven
>  >> 17 have in common, in terms of their names? Both are named after 
>fictitious
>  >> bands (TtWS from Python, H17 from A Clockwork Orange).
>                                  ^^^^^^^
>  >
>  > I do not think that "Toad the Wet Sprocket" comes from Pynchon.
>
>Nor was it being claimed to have done so in Jeff's post. :)

returning to the original "bands named after fictional bands", does 
Jonathan Richman and the Modern Lovers pre-date Eno's "The true 
wheel"? (A Certain Ratio was definitely named after a line in the 
song, but not one which suggests that the original lyric was about a 
band).

James
- -- 
    James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand  <http://www.grutness.co.nz>
    -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-
    =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-.
    -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=-
    .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=

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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:55:53 +1200
From: James Dignan <grutness@slingshot.co.nz>
Subject: Re: Catching up: Duran Toad Porn

Great subject line...

>But that, of course, raises the question of bands drawing their names from
>Pynchon. Both Laurie Anderson and (bizarrely) Pat Benatar have named songs
>after Pynchon, and both the Insect Trust and the Favourite Colour have set
>T. Slothrop's "Eyes of a New York Woman" to music...but any band names?

Not that I know of, but "Trystero" would be a fine name for a band... 
or "Pig Bodine", for that matter

James
- -- 
    James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand  <http://www.grutness.co.nz>
    -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-
    =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-.
    -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=-
    .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=

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Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 00:36:19 +0200
From: Sebastian Hagedorn <Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-koeln.de>
Subject: Movies: Little Children

Did not like this as much as I'm apparently supposed to. Sure, it's filmed 
beautifully and the characters have more dimensions than in many other 
movies, but the culmination at the end felt forced and was ultimately a 
letdown. I just read the synopsis of the novel on Wikipedia and *that* 
ending makes a lot more sense! Well, the script was adapted by Perrotta 
himself ... I still gave it a 7/10.
- --
Sebastian Hagedorn
Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany
http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/
"Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock

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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:53:06 -0700
From: kevin studyvin <kstudyvin@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: WWEAD? (What Would Eb's Ass Do?)

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Nectar At Any Cost! <etews@inwa.net> wrote:

> <But in my mind the similarly themed "The Killing" and most of all "The
> Wages of Fear" are even better movies - at least in my faulty memory>
>
> *Wages* is indeed awesome.  i find *The Killing* overrated, however.  check
> out *Asphalt Jungle*.  probably my all-time fave heist movie, plus contains
> probably my all-time fave movie quote.  (won't repeat it here so as not to
> ruin its impact for those who've not yet viewed the flick.)
>

Current fave quote is from a guy driving a truck in a current promo of Ghost
Hunters on sigh fie - "If we're gonna go big, might as well go gates of hell
big."  Been driving my wife nuts with that one but really, how much more
American can you get?

Current heavy rotation: The Banshees' The Scream; Love's Forever Changes;
the posthumous Complete Jack Johnson Sessions of Miles Davis; the Rhino Burt
Bacharach box set; and don't forget whatsisname's Globe Of Frogs...

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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 19:02:55 -0700
From: kevin studyvin <kstudyvin@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bands after pseudobands (slight return)

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:45 PM, James Dignan <grutness@slingshot.co.nz>wrote:

>  >> A friend of mine asked, what do the bands Toad the Wet Sprocket and
>> Heaven
>>  >> 17 have in common, in terms of their names? Both are named after
>> fictitious
>>  >> bands (TtWS from Python, H17 from A Clockwork Orange).
>>                                 ^^^^^^^
>>  >
>>  > I do not think that "Toad the Wet Sprocket" comes from Pynchon.
>>
>> Nor was it being claimed to have done so in Jeff's post. :)
>>
>
> returning to the original "bands named after fictional bands", does
> Jonathan Richman and the Modern Lovers pre-date Eno's "The true wheel"? (A
> Certain Ratio was definitely named after a line in the song, but not one
> which suggests that the original lyric was about a band).
>
> James
>

We have live recordings of the Modern Lovers as far back as 1971, and "The
True Wheel" is from Taking Tiger Mountain in 1974, so I'm gonna say yes.

PS that and "Needles In the Camel's Eye" are far and away my favorite of
Eno's "rock" songs.  And I guess "King's Lead Hat."

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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 22:44:44 -0500
From: 2fs <jeffreyw2fs.j@gmail.com>
Subject: tech...

My old USB audio interface bit it a while back, and I replaced it with a
Lexicon Lambda. While my main intentions with this device were to record my
own noises, the unit it replaced was useful as an interface for digitizing
vinyl and cassettes. The new one (damn my not looking closely) lacks any
RCA-jack input. There's MIDI input and 6.3mm inputs (instrument-style).

So my question is: does anyone know of a good source for an adapter that can
connect a stereo RCA jack (as from home stereo) to two 6.3mm inputs (i.e.,
so I can use it to digitize LPs)? I haven't seen such a beast...and it's a
bit annoying. I mean, I could buy one of those purpose-built USB
turntables...but I really don't feel like spending more money than a
couple-few adapters would cost.

- -- 

...Jeff Norman

The Architectural Dance Society
http://spanghew.wordpress.com

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Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 23:40:03 -0500
From: Steve Schiavo <steveschiavo@mac.com>
Subject: Firefly question (NR)

6 years of spoiler space







































This may well have been answered before (but we finally watched the  
series).

Why, in "Heart of Gold," did Captain Reynolds *not* have Jayne take  
out Rance Burgess at 300 yards?  Just wondering.



- - Steve
__________
I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone  
girl with a scythe. - John

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_6O-xByzRg>

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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 01:30:58 -0700
From: kevin studyvin <kstudyvin@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: tech...

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:44 PM, 2fs <jeffreyw2fs.j@gmail.com> wrote:

> My old USB audio interface bit it a while back, and I replaced it with a
> Lexicon Lambda. While my main intentions with this device were to record my
> own noises, the unit it replaced was useful as an interface for digitizing
> vinyl and cassettes. The new one (damn my not looking closely) lacks any
> RCA-jack input. There's MIDI input and 6.3mm inputs (instrument-style).
>
> So my question is: does anyone know of a good source for an adapter that
> can
> connect a stereo RCA jack (as from home stereo) to two 6.3mm inputs (i.e.,
> so I can use it to digitize LPs)? I haven't seen such a beast...and it's a
> bit annoying. I mean, I could buy one of those purpose-built USB
> turntables...but I really don't feel like spending more money than a
> couple-few adapters would cost.
>

Male to male or male to female?  M2F was an easy find:
http://www.amazon.com/Stereo-Plug-Female-Adapter-Cable/dp/B000TTHVYK

M2M might require a tad more ingenuity.  (It was simpler once I realized
that 6.3mm translates as 1/4" American.)

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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:49:42 -0500
From: 2fs <jeffreyw2fs.j@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: tech...

On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 3:30 AM, kevin studyvin <kstudyvin@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:44 PM, 2fs <jeffreyw2fs.j@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> My old USB audio interface bit it a while back, and I replaced it with a
>> Lexicon Lambda. While my main intentions with this device were to record
>> my
>> own noises, the unit it replaced was useful as an interface for digitizing
>> vinyl and cassettes. The new one (damn my not looking closely) lacks any
>> RCA-jack input. There's MIDI input and 6.3mm inputs (instrument-style).
>>
>> So my question is: does anyone know of a good source for an adapter that
>> can
>> connect a stereo RCA jack (as from home stereo) to two 6.3mm inputs (i.e.,
>> so I can use it to digitize LPs)? I haven't seen such a beast...and it's a
>> bit annoying. I mean, I could buy one of those purpose-built USB
>> turntables...but I really don't feel like spending more money than a
>> couple-few adapters would cost.
>>
>
> Male to male or male to female?  M2F was an easy find:
> http://www.amazon.com/Stereo-Plug-Female-Adapter-Cable/dp/B000TTHVYK
>

Yeah, I figured it out a bit later. I was hoping to be able to do it in one
go (i.e., something that goes M 6.3mm (stereo headphone jack) to two mono M
6.3mm...but that I couldn't find. Looks like I'll have to go the two-step
route, with the item you list above and then two RCA>6.3mm adapters (which I
already have).

FWIW, I was being fooled for a while that the Lambda didn't appear as a
device on my MacBook...digging around, I found that if you go into
Garageband (or whatever) and find the list of audio inputs, it's there (if
it's hooked up, of course).

I'll probably hit Radio Shack and see if they have that adapter...

- -- 

...Jeff Norman

The Architectural Dance Society
http://spanghew.wordpress.com

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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:58:04 -0400
From: Mike <m.swedene@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: tech...

Try monoprice.com too.

Mike


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 4, 2009, at 4:30 AM, kevin studyvin <kstudyvin@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:44 PM, 2fs <jeffreyw2fs.j@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> My old USB audio interface bit it a while back, and I replaced it  
>> with a
>> Lexicon Lambda. While my main intentions with this device were to  
>> record my
>> own noises, the unit it replaced was useful as an interface for  
>> digitizing
>> vinyl and cassettes. The new one (damn my not looking closely)  
>> lacks any
>> RCA-jack input. There's MIDI input and 6.3mm inputs (instrument- 
>> style).
>>
>> So my question is: does anyone know of a good source for an adapter  
>> that
>> can
>> connect a stereo RCA jack (as from home stereo) to two 6.3mm inputs  
>> (i.e.,
>> so I can use it to digitize LPs)? I haven't seen such a beast...and  
>> it's a
>> bit annoying. I mean, I could buy one of those purpose-built USB
>> turntables...but I really don't feel like spending more money than a
>> couple-few adapters would cost.
>>
>
> Male to male or male to female?  M2F was an easy find:
> http://www.amazon.com/Stereo-Plug-Female-Adapter-Cable/dp/B000TTHVYK
>
> M2M might require a tad more ingenuity.  (It was simpler once I  
> realized
> that 6.3mm translates as 1/4" American.)

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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 10:18:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jill Brand <jlbrand@bu.edu>
Subject: am I a hipster?

Quail gave us his top 10 so far:

Rock:
1. "No Line on the Horizon," by U2
2. "Hazards of Love," by the Decemberists
3. "Merriweather Post Pavilion," by Animal Collective
4. "Secret, Profane, and Sugarcane," by Elvis Costello
5. "Abnormally Addicted to Sin," by Tori Amos
6. "Goodnight Oslo," by Robyn Hitchcock & The Venus Three
7. "Horehound," by the Dead Weather
8. "Wilco," by Wilco
9. "Veckatimest," by Grizzly Bear
10. "Years of Refusal," by Morrissey


The thing that amazes me most about this list is that I have actually seen 
5 of these performers/bands live, two of them recently (no fair because 
they appeared together).  And I've heard of all the rest except Dead 
Weather!  I always think of myself as the person who knows the least music 
on the feglist.  Oh, and good on you for discovering Magazine.  Howard 
Devoto was a god of mine in the early '80s.  Morrissey's as well, so I've 
heard (I think Cemetry [sic] Gates was written as a result of a 
Morrissey/Devoto outing).

Jill

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Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 10:50:54 -0400
From: Great Quail <quail@shipwrecklibrary.com>
Subject: Re: am I a hipster?

Trust me, Jill, as a resident of Brooklyn...If you like the bands on this
list, you are not a hipster!

I guarantee that you'd have to travel far and wide throughout Williamsburg
to find anyone with a non-ironic U2 or Tori Amos shirt. I think Animal
Collective and Grizzly Bear are the only two real hipster bands I listed,
and we all know that they've sold out by making good, accessible albums.

And the Dead Weather would be Jack White's new band. So not as hipstery as
it might sound. 

- --Quail



> Quail gave us his top 10 so far:
> 
> Rock:
> 1. "No Line on the Horizon," by U2
> 2. "Hazards of Love," by the Decemberists
> 3. "Merriweather Post Pavilion," by Animal Collective
> 4. "Secret, Profane, and Sugarcane," by Elvis Costello
> 5. "Abnormally Addicted to Sin," by Tori Amos
> 6. "Goodnight Oslo," by Robyn Hitchcock & The Venus Three
> 7. "Horehound," by the Dead Weather
> 8. "Wilco," by Wilco
> 9. "Veckatimest," by Grizzly Bear
> 10. "Years of Refusal," by Morrissey
> 
> 
> The thing that amazes me most about this list is that I have actually seen
> 5 of these performers/bands live, two of them recently (no fair because
> they appeared together).  And I've heard of all the rest except Dead
> Weather!  I always think of myself as the person who knows the least music
> on the feglist.  Oh, and good on you for discovering Magazine.  Howard
> Devoto was a god of mine in the early '80s.  Morrissey's as well, so I've
> heard (I think Cemetry [sic] Gates was written as a result of a
> Morrissey/Devoto outing).
> 
> Jill

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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 11:26:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christopher Gross <chrisg@gwu.edu>
Subject: Re: "Follow The Money"

On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, Nectar At Any Cost! wrote:

> <Okay, which graphs?  I'd be interested in seeing them.  (Yes, I admit I
> haven't read all the links you've posted.)>
>
> <URL:http://vaccinationdebate.com/web1.html> was the link i'd initially
> posted.  these graphs are from australia only.
>
> <URL:http://www.vaclib.org/links/graphs.htm> is a list of links to other
> graphs.
>
> included among them is
> <URL:http://www.vaclib.org/sites/harpub/pol_all.htm>, graphs and discussion
> of polio trends in the u.s..

Thanks.  I don't know if either of us wants to continue debating this, 
but ... I'll note that I jumped to the Polio graph at the first link, 
since polio is the classic case of a disease stopped by vaccination (and 
the one I remember the most details about).  And I immediately noted that 
it's blatantly misleading, as it only covers 1950-1964.  In other words, 
they chose a starting point at the beginning of the last great outbreak 
and an end point very shortly afterwards.  A longer time line would show 
periodic outbreaks separated by troughs for decades the 1950s, vaccination 
time, then no major outbreaks after that.  This is the same graphing trick 
global warming denialists who draw up graphs of temperatures from 1998, a 
particularly hot year, to 2004, then claim that the world has been cooling 
since '98, when a longer timeline would show an upward trend in 
temperatures with 1998 just having a particularly large spike.

The graph at http://www.vaclib.org/sites/harpub/pol_all.htm suffers a tad 
because they fail to recognize that post polio syndrome occurs in people 
who had previously contracted polio decades before and is NOT a new 
infection.  Thus the graph actually *supports* the idea that new polio 
infections drastically declined after the vaccine was widespread! 
Outbreaks before the vaccine, no outbreaks (of new infections) since the 
vaccine.

(Aside from that ... the idea that DDT and polio could be related in some 
way is interesting at first glance, but I'd like to see more data.  For 
instance, is there a geographical correlation between areas of heavy DDT 
use and high incidence of polio?)

> as a practical matter, we know that those with healthy lifestyles tend to
> be in health, and those with un-healthy lifestyles tend to be sickly.  we
> know that people with *very* healthy lifestyles don't get sick, ever.

Of course whenever someone gets sick, you can simply say that his 
lifestyle wasn't healthy enough.  See, NH vindicated again!  Satisfying, 
perhaps, but empty.

> i should repeat, here, too, that vaccines are supposed to, "like
> clockwork", prevent disease in all who take them; and drugs are supposed
> to, "like clockwork", cure disease in all who eat them.  no "generalities"
> and "probabilities" here?

Who says that?  No one that I know of.

> for the nine-bajillionth time: NH disparages "alternative" therapies as
> strongly as it does conventional.  you won't find any recommendations  for
> herbs, supplements, "superfoods", crystals, magnets, acupuncture, or what
> have you, among naturaly hygienists.  as i've said, i agree that these are
> the bunk.

I appreciate the info on NH vs. alternative therapies; I had always 
carelessly lumped them together.

> <If a germ fails Koch's postulates, then at most that proves that that germ
> doesn't cause that disease, not that germ theory itself is wrong.>
>
> but if no germ has ever, in 150 years' time, been shewn to cause any
> disease, then...well, okay, yeah, it might still be theoretically possible.
> but, should it really be considered accepted fact?

I also appreciate "shewn"!  Seriously.  But again, I think you're putting 
too much weight on Koch's postulates.  They are an application of germ 
theory, not its proof. If, *IF* the application fails, there are at least 
two possibilities: the theory is wrong, or it's right but this application 
of it is faulty.


- --Chris

______________________________________________________________________
Christopher Gross             On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog.
chrisg@gwu.edu

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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 11:31:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christopher Gross <chrisg@gwu.edu>
Subject: Re: Firefly question (NR)

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The guy with the the machine gun was the most dangerous, so Jayne aimed at 
him first.  After that I guess things got too confusing.

What I really want to know is, why was the solar-powered house so shiny? 
Solar power cells should *absorb* light, not reflect it.


- --Chris


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Christopher Gross             On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog.
chrisg@gwu.edu

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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:47:10 -0700
From: "John B. Jones" <jbj@tuthorse.net>
Subject: hipster or not? (fave albums so far)

ABSOLUTELY LOVE:
10 The Decemberists - Hazards Of Love
09 Headless Heroes - The Silence Of Love
08 U2 - No Line On The Horizon
07 Neko Case - Middle Cyclone
06 Beirut - Realpeople Holland EP
05 Bat For Lashes - Two Suns
04 Art Brut - Art Brut Vs. Satan
03 Robyn Hitchcock & The Venus 3 - Goodnight Oslo
02 A.C. Newman - Get Guilty
01 Yeah Yeah Yeahs - It's Blitz

LIKE ALOT:
Sun Kil Moon - Tonight The Sky EP
Trespassers Williams - Natural Order Of Things EP
Various Artists - Warchild Presents: Heroes
Rachel Taylor Brown - Susan Strong's Ugly Sister And Other Saints And
Superheroes
Alela Diane - To Be Still
Morrissey - Years Of Refusal
Grand Duchy - Petits Fours (this is Blank Francis and his wife)
Fever Ray - Fever Ray

New stuff on my radar: new Viva Voce, Handsome Furs, and Telepathe's "Dance
Mother".

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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:15:56 -0400
From: Jeremy Osner <anacreon@gmail.com>
Subject: Anybody else coming to the Beacon on Thursday?

http://www.glidemagazine.com/hiddentrack/announcing-the-big-surprise-tour/

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