From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V17 #204 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, July 28 2009 Volume 17 : Number 204 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: hot synths! [Tom Clark ] Re: Spo-dee-o-dee (wine, wine) [Jeremy Osner ] Re: Spo-dee-o-dee (wine, wine) [2fs ] Re: "Follow The Money" ["Nectar At Any Cost!" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V17 #203 [James Dignan ] Re: Spo-dee-o-dee (wine, wine) [ross ] Re: "Follow The Money" [Marc ] p.s. ["Nectar At Any Cost!" ] Re: "Follow The Money" ["Nectar At Any Cost!" ] Re: "Follow The Money" ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: p.s. ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: p.s. [Marc ] News from Slavoj Zizek [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: News from Slavoj Zizek [kevin studyvin ] Re: News from Slavoj Zizek [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Shatner reciting Palin's farewell speech [m swedene ] Re: News from Slavoj Zizek [Carrie Galbraith ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:43:03 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: hot synths! On Jul 24, 2009, at 5:13 PM, James Dignan wrote: > Duran Duran are much hated (though I'd advise anyone who writes > them off to compare the songs of a boyband circa 1985 with a boyband > circa 2005 and see which one's the real tutaenui*) - but "Save a > prayer" is a gem. The synth part is simple, but it does indeed weave > a spell, especially towards the end of the song, whetre it > deliberately styarts getting out of step with itself. The fade-out > of that song adds several points to its overall score. People these days do tend to look at you funny if you admit to liking Duran Duran. I get especially weird looks when I confess that "Save A Prayer" is my favorite of their songs. btw, they visited the Apple campus a few weeks ago during their swing through California. My friend Steven got a photo with them: http://twitpic.com/buau0 - -tc p.s. Steven's the one who's almost as tall as Nick Rhodes. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:00:11 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: Spo-dee-o-dee (wine, wine) I wrote: > Wikipedia thinks rather that "spo-dee-o-dee was a scat substitute for the original motherfucker" -- > I take that to mean the original lyric was "drinkin wine, motherfucker" and when they went to record it, > they came up with nonsense syllables to cover that. hoyhoy.com says this explicitly, but again without attribution: Stick (his real name was Granville McGhee) served in the Army during WWII, during which time he often pulled out his guitar to play. One ditty that he wrote during the war had a lyric about, "drinking wine mother~~er, drinking wine." He recorded the song in 1946 for Harlem records, but changed the lyrics to, "Drinking Wine Spo-Dee-O-Dee," http://www.hoyhoy.com/artists/stick.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:34:51 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Spo-dee-o-dee (wine, wine) On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > Wikipedia thinks rather that "spo-dee-o-dee was a scat substitute for the > original motherfucker" -- I take that to mean the original lyric was > "drinkin wine, motherfucker" and when they went to record it, they came up > with nonsense syllables to cover that. OTOH Wikipedia has no attribution > for > this factoid... > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stick_McGhee > Few people are aware of the other famous song whose original lyrics featured this choice obscenity. Original demos show that in the bridge, Jon Anderson originally sang "Mountains come out of the sky, motherfucker!" in the bridge to Yes' "Roundabout." Acetates have been known to draw bids in the high tens. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:25:06 -0700 From: "Nectar At Any Cost!" Subject: Re: "Follow The Money" . <> the *postulates* are neither reasonable nor un-reasonable: they're just logic. the *germ theory*, in failing to satisfy the postulates, must be discarded by those who accept logic. but the bird flu thing occurred while rumsfeld and chums were still in office. anyway, the more important point is the so-called "revolving door" from corporate big-wig to policy-maker and then back again (not only in the pharmaceutical industry, of course!). . ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:33:28 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V17 #203 >A friend of mine asked, what do the bands Toad the Wet Sprocket and Heaven >17 have in common, in terms of their names? Both are named after fictitious >bands (TtWS from Python, H17 from A Clockwork Orange). ISTR there eventually was a real band who called themselves Hornets Attack Victor Mature. The Rutles? The Blues Brothers? Black Dog - was in a manga of some kind, but is also the name of an ambient musician/group. Dunno which came first. The Nairobi Trio - name from a group in the Ernie Kovacs show Pink - (The Wall, and current female soloist) - Probably no connection. Porcupine Tree apparently started as an in-joke name for a non-existent band. is interesting reading... James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:14:27 -0400 From: ross Subject: Re: Spo-dee-o-dee (wine, wine) 2fs wrote: > Original demos show that in the bridge, Jon Anderson > originally sang "Mountains come out of the sky, motherfucker!" in the > bridge > to Yes' "Roundabout." > My, but it's good to be back! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:35:27 -0400 From: Marc Subject: Re: "Follow The Money" Nectar At Any Cost! wrote: > the *postulates* are neither reasonable nor un-reasonable: they're just > logic. the *germ theory*, in failing to satisfy the postulates, must be > discarded by those who accept logic. Really? If it must be discarded due to logic, what is the proof that germ theory cannot be true? And if the logic fails, how do you explain the success of such events as the virtual elimination of polio by the application of a vaccine, or the effectiveness of antibiotics in fighting infections? Marc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:52:05 -0700 From: "Nectar At Any Cost!" Subject: p.s. >> A scientist who advises the Government on swine flu is a paid director of a drugs firm making hundreds of millions of pounds from the pandemic. Professor Sir Roy Anderson sits on the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage), a 20-strong task force drawing up the action plan for the virus. Yet he also holds a #116,000-a-year post on the board of GlaxoSmithKline, the company selling swine flu vaccines and anti-virals to the NHS. << . ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:34:20 -0700 From: "Nectar At Any Cost!" Subject: Re: "Follow The Money" i'm afraid that i don't know what you're asking. if the germ theory is valid, then it must satisfy the postulates; but we know that it does not satisfy the postulates. see the first link in the post you're responding to. short answer: the body heals itself *despite* the drugs. for long answers, dig in to the works at . shelton's *Orthopathy* is a good place to start. Marc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:04:44 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: "Follow The Money" Nectar At Any Cost! wrote: > > . I can't explain all of them, but diphtheria, whooping cough and polio seem to take drastic dives after vaccination was introduced. Scarlet fever responds extremely well to penicillin, which explains its drop-off from the late 1930s. Typhoid was seen off with better sanitation and possibly water chlorination. > the *postulates* are neither reasonable nor un-reasonable: they're just > logic. the *germ theory*, in failing to satisfy the postulates, must be > discarded by those who accept logic. Well, seeing as you couldn't prove this when asked, I think the postulates are safe. > teachings, died at age 69 of malnourishment and ozone poisoning?> > > . That's the one. It's what the article says. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:04:50 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: p.s. Nectar At Any Cost! wrote: > > Professor Sir Roy Anderson sits on the Scientific Advisory Group for > Emergencies (Sage), a 20-strong task force drawing up the action plan for > the virus. because he knows what he's talking about, and therefore adds value to the group. > Yet he also holds a #116,000-a-year post on the board of GlaxoSmithKline, > the company selling swine flu vaccines and anti-virals to the NHS. << because he knows what he's talking about, and therefore adds value to the company. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:30:38 -0400 From: Marc Subject: Re: p.s. Stewart C. Russell wrote: > Nectar At Any Cost! wrote: >> Professor Sir Roy Anderson sits on the Scientific Advisory Group for >> Emergencies (Sage), a 20-strong task force drawing up the action plan for >> the virus. > > because he knows what he's talking about, and therefore adds value to > the group. > >> Yet he also holds a #116,000-a-year post on the board of GlaxoSmithKline, >> the company selling swine flu vaccines and anti-virals to the NHS. << > > because he knows what he's talking about, and therefore adds value to > the company. I love the Big Pharma conspiracy. It's a brilliant way to ignore all plausible logic. And as for the link provided by NaaC, referencing non-science based medical practices to "prove" something logically is illogical. Marc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:25:37 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: News from Slavoj Zizek Worth reading: - -- b. Sebastian Hagedorn b Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-koeln.de b' http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:32:24 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: News from Slavoj Zizek On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Sebastian Hagedorn < Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-koeln.de> wrote: > Worth reading: > > > -- > b . Sebastian Hagedorn > b Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-koeln.de > b ' http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ > Thanks for that - any kind of positive perspective is welcome at the moment. Bedroom was well over 100 degrees F by last night and we're moving operations to the basement for the duration, and happy to have that option. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:37:29 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: News from Slavoj Zizek Hi, - --On 28. Juli 2009 08:32:24 -0700 kevin studyvin wrote: > Thanks for that - any kind of positive perspective is welcome at the > moment. I'm not so sure I'd actually call it a "positive" perspective ... > Bedroom was well over 100 degrees F by last night and we're moving > operations to the basement for the duration, and happy to have that > option. Where are you based? I suppose I should know, but I forgot. I'll think some cool thoughts for you. - -- b. Sebastian Hagedorn b Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-koeln.de b' http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:51:44 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: News from Slavoj Zizek On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Sebastian Hagedorn < Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-koeln.de> wrote: > Hi, > > --On 28. Juli 2009 08:32:24 -0700 kevin studyvin > wrote: > > Thanks for that - any kind of positive perspective is welcome at the >> moment. >> > > I'm not so sure I'd actually call it a "positive" perspective ... > Well, to the extent that he's looking at the opening up of an insular society it's at least an example of somebody doing some actual thinking. And there's some interesting critique of the world of late-stage capitalism, and anything that adds to that toolkit is useful far as I'm concerned... Bedroom was well over 100 degrees F by last night and we're moving >> operations to the basement for the duration, and happy to have that >> option. >> > > Where are you based? I suppose I should know, but I forgot. I'll think some > cool thoughts for you. Seattle, US of A. Where temps are approaching 100F, a good 20 degrees above normal (or what used to be "normal"). > > -- > b. Sebastian Hagedorn > b Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-koeln.de > b' http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:47:01 -0400 From: m swedene Subject: Shatner reciting Palin's farewell speech http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCdqRbWYWbU think rocketman or lucy in the sky with diamonds. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:57:31 -0700 From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: News from Slavoj Zizek On Jul 28, 2009, at 8:51 AM, kevin studyvin wrote: > > Seattle, US of A. Where temps are approaching 100F, a good 20 > degrees above > normal (or what used to be "normal"). >> Seattle??? Yikes! I guess I should be grateful that we are having our classic Bay Area summer. San Francisco: "The Cool, Gray City of Love." - - c - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - ------------ "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." Thomas Jefferson - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - ------------ ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V17 #204 ********************************