From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V17 #201 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, July 24 2009 Volume 17 : Number 201 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Totally No Robyn (NR) [Jeff Margrave ] Re: Totally No Robyn (NR) [kevin studyvin ] Riot on the Sunset Strip Vol. II: Slight Return (To 1966) [HwyCDRre] Re: Totally No Robyn (NR) [2fs ] Re: in "funny" (i.e. "ha ha", not "strange") news to-day (attn: windows users) ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Fwd: hot synths! [2fs ] Re: hitchcock sighting [2fs ] Re: in "funny" (i.e. "ha ha", not "strange") news to-day (attn: windows users) [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: "Follow The Money" [Christopher Gross ] Horton Hears a Cthulhu (No RH) [Steve Talkowski ] Re: "Follow The Money" [2fs ] Re: in "funny" (i.e. "ha ha", not "strange") news to-day (attn: windows users) [lep ] Fwd: hot synths! [2fs ] Re: Horton Hears a Cthulhu (No RH) [kevin studyvin ] Shit-Howdy! ["Nectar At Any Cost!" ] RE: hitchcock sighting [Dr John Halewood ] Re: Shit-Howdy! [Tom Clark ] Re: in "funny" (i.e. "ha ha", not "strange") news to-day (attn: windows users) ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: hitchcock sighting [Jeremy Osner ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:34:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Margrave Subject: Re: Totally No Robyn (NR) 2fs wrote: > Rex wrote: > > 2fs wrote: > > > >> I'll second the WTF... > > > > > > I'll attempt an explanation. Ahem... > > > > Bitch is nuts. > > > > All in favor? > > > > Well yes...but that doesn't explain why she isn't ranting > about a wood-composite table, a flamethrower, and a 14-foot replica > Donald Duck made entirely of bat guano. KKK bitch is nuts. The whole birther crap is just a bunch of racist sacks of shit in a tizzy who are upset cuz we elected a nigger. Fuck 'em. Tell they're lyin' Nazis and to go set their their Hitler lovin selves on fire. Klan, Nazi, I don't care whether they really are technically are not. Shit is shit is shit. "I love how (coffee) makes me feel. It's like my heart is trying to hug my brain!" -- Kenneth Parcell ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:52:23 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Totally No Robyn (NR) > The whole birther crap is just a bunch of racist sacks of shit in a tizzy > who are upset cuz we elected a nigger. Fuck 'em. Tell they're lyin' Nazis > and to go set their their Hitler lovin selves on fire. Klan, Nazi, I don't > care whether they really are technically are not. Shit is shit is shit. > What he said. Though I think "upset" leans toward understatement. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 07:56:01 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Riot on the Sunset Strip Vol. II: Slight Return (To 1966) Riot on the Sunset Strip Vol. II: Slight Return (To 1966) http://www.americancinematheque.com/archive1999/2009/Egyptian/RiotonSunsetSt rip_ET2009.htm my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ **************Dell Deals: Treat yourself to a sweet deal on popular laptops! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1223100673x1201716527/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D7) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 07:48:22 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Totally No Robyn (NR) On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 2:34 AM, Jeff Margrave wrote: > > > The whole birther crap is just a bunch of racist sacks of shit in a tizzy > who are upset cuz we elected a nigger. Fuck 'em. Tell they're lyin' Nazis > and to go set their their Hitler lovin selves on fire. Klan, Nazi, I don't > care whether they really are technically are not. Shit is shit is shit. I'm also amused by the fact that they're so upset that one of the last election's candidates was born to a woman who was a US citizen although outside the US. Oh wait - that was the other candidate. (Not that I think there's much to *that* complaint either...) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:43:59 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: in "funny" (i.e. "ha ha", not "strange") news to-day (attn: windows users) lep wrote: > > BTW, and i've likely mentioned this before, but, IMO, any windows user > who uses "windows explorer" (i.e. window's native file manager GUI) is > either a masochist of high order, or unaware of xplorer^2 Nah, just host Windows as a VM on a real OS, and when you really need to do file work, hop into the host OS and use the shell. When Windows goes sideways, just restore your VM from a known good copy. (I only have to use a VM 'cos of delightful Korean security protocols - based on ActiveX, haha) And I think your last message came through without demime - is demime dead on smoe? Oli! Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:50:56 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: in "funny" (i.e. "ha ha", not "strange") news to-day (attn: windows users) - --On 23. Juli 2009 09:43:59 -0400 "Stewart C. Russell" wrote: > And I think your last message came through without demime - is demime > dead on smoe? Oli! That's what it looks like! Hooray! KC6ln KC6ln KC6ln - -- b. Sebastian Hagedorn b Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-koeln.de b' http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:51:44 +0100 From: Dr John Halewood Subject: hitchcock sighting Haven't seen anyone mention this yet (but then haven't been keeping up as I've only just got out of hospital), but this is pretty good: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gVzYlGFQTE Robyn and Richard Thompson covering the Incredible String Band at the Barbican in London last weekend. Likened by one person to 'Jesus and Buddha sing God'. Whatever. cheers john ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:41:18 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Fwd: hot synths! I didn't have much to say on the synth-player question, but I knew my friend Tris McCall (www.trismccall.net) would (because he has much to say on anything) - so here's his advice (he's a synth player himself). Add (per later emendation) Brian Eno and Eddie Jobson. - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Tris McCall Date: Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 9:02 AM Subject: Re: hot synths! > >> -------------------------- >> >> >> best synth player ever was *rick wright*. this is demonstrated on *wish >> you were here*, but it's also apparent on every other floyd record except >> the last two when he sorta faded away. the seventies is considered the >> golden era of subtractive synthesis, but lots of pop stars didn't really >> understand what kind of power they had at their disposal. besides rick >> wright, the only other pop stars who completely internalized the logic of >> the machines were *stevie wonder* and *pete townshend*. there were lots >> of great soloists, but that's the easy part. if you've got the chops, i >> mean. *keith emerson* was (and is) a great soloist who also understood >> what a synth could do. many other soloists just treated analog synths like >> weird organs, maybe threw in some portamento. that guy from kansas -- *kerry >> livgren* -- was good. *george clinton* had fun with his synths, which is >> half the battle right there. >> >> who was the rick wright of the eighties? when i say *nick rhodes*, >> people think i'm joking. this is probably because while we now pretend to >> take them seriously as a classic pop band, nobody really rates duran duran. >> but nick rhodes was a master of texture. he showed what a powerful >> instrument the prophet 5 was, and how it could be used to change the whole >> attitude of a song. his band would be doing some sub-roxy music funk >> workout, and he'd add a little line and twist a few knobs, and suddenly it >> sounded like a mirage. the part on "save a prayer" isn't much: just a riff >> and a synthetic warble. but it makes the song a magic spell. even when >> duran duran went to hell, he was still doing innovative stuff with his >> synthesizers. once he switched over to fairlight, he was the most >> compelling fairlight player around. >> >> other eighties-era synth players: *gary numan* is always fun to listen >> to, *vince clarke* always got expressive waveform sounds (especially with >> yaz), *quincy jones*'s synths on the mj albums are still ripped off by >> contemporary pop stars on the regular. *paul joseph moore* of the blue >> nile created some otherworldly textures for *a walk across the rooftops*and >> *hats*. people have a problem with *eddie rayner* of split enz, but i >> don't get it: i guess they think he overplays, but i thought that the whole >> point of split enz was that you *couldn't* overplay. i don't know who >> played synths in *the gap band*, but i think that's kinda the gold >> standard for thick analog bass sounds. *joe jackson* is an extremely >> underrated synth player. you've already mentioned *thomas dolby*. *ned >> liben* of ebn-ozn (and later scritti politti) doesn't get discussed very >> much, but he ought to be -- he was one of the great sound sculptors of the >> eighties. *terry troutman* of zapp was staggeringly imaginative, and as >> it's turned out, he's had almost as much influence on the sound of '08-'09 >> as quincy jones. here's a leftfield name that *never* gets mentioned: *roy >> bittan*. i believe those pads on *born in the usa* are *the* pads. >> nothing conjures up the highway and wide open spaces in the postindustrial >> northeast like the professor's synths (and phantom dan's organ) on that >> album. >> >> call me euroskeptic, but i never went wild for the techno players in the >> nineties. so much of that era just sounded to me like warmed-over rick >> wright: stuff rick wright did better in the seventies, only played much >> faster and over herky-jerky beats that limited the synth player's latitude >> for expression. i dig *jean benoit dunckel* from air, even though he's >> about as indebted to wright as the u.s. treasury is to china. *mark >> brydon* of moloko is one of the greatest ever to twiddle a knob, even >> though nobody stateside knows who the hell he is. *stereolab *could be >> brilliant, especially on *emperor tomato ketchup*. but that was the time >> when american bands treated synthesizers like they had aids on them, to >> paraphrase mf doom. >> >> luckily it was also the time when *dr. dre* dragged the analog >> synthesizers out of the closet and made it cool for emcees to rhyme over old >> moogs. since g-funk, most of the best synth playing has been on rap >> records. *timbaland*, *chad hugo & pharrell williams*, *the dungeon fam*, >> all these guys have done some really innovative stuff. *kanye west* has >> turned himself into an excellent synth player -- mostly by copying quincy >> jones, sure, but still. *black milk* has become a name to watch -- *tronic >> *was eclipsed by *808s* last year, but so was everything else. and i >> know that nobody is trying to hear this, but *lil jon is an *awesome* >> synthesist*. he's actually a lot like nick rhodes: he'll regularly come >> up with a four note riff or a simple sound effect that'll completely alter >> the character of a track without breaking the groove. and when he chooses >> to highlight the synthesizer in his productions -- like on "krazy" by >> pitbull -- the result is pure meltdown. *t-pain* is also a terrific >> synth player, but i recognize that folks start to head for the exits when i >> bring up t-pain, so maybe i'll quit while i'm ahead. or ten runs behind. >> > He forwarded this to some friends, so there may be some more suggestions coming. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:42:13 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: hitchcock sighting On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 7:51 AM, Dr John Halewood wrote: > Haven't seen anyone mention this yet (but then haven't been keeping up as > I've only just got out of hospital), but this is pretty good: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gVzYlGFQTE > Robyn and Richard Thompson covering the Incredible String Band at the > Barbican in London last weekend. Likened by one person to 'Jesus and Buddha > sing God'. Whatever. I"ll have to check this out when I get home - but I've been thinking for *years* that Hitchcock & Thompson should play together! - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:40:58 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: in "funny" (i.e. "ha ha", not "strange") news to-day (attn: windows users) >> And I think your last message came through without demime - is demime >> dead on smoe? Oli! > > That's what it looks like! Hooray! > > KC6ln KC6ln KC6ln Sigh ... so they only use iso-8859-1 instead of us-ascii. Better than before, but utf-8 still breaks :( - -- b. Sebastian Hagedorn b Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-koeln.de b' http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 08:58:23 -0700 From: "Nectar At Any Cost!" Subject: "Follow The Money" from : >> The effects of swine flu are already showing up in higher profits for makers of vaccines and antiviral drugs as the first pandemic of the 21st century makes its way onto corporate bottom lines. << ...gee, that's convenient. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:06:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: "Follow The Money" On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Nectar At Any Cost! wrote: > from : > >>> The effects of swine flu are already showing up in higher profits for > makers of vaccines and antiviral drugs as the first pandemic of the 21st > century makes its way onto corporate bottom lines. << > > ...gee, that's convenient. So, do umbrella makers cause rain? - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:38:52 -0700 From: Steve Talkowski Subject: Horton Hears a Cthulhu (No RH) Knowing the list's penchant for all things Cthulhu, I present the "Horton Hears Cthulhu!" T-Shirt, on view at San Diego Comic Con Preview Night: http://www.flickr.com/photos/stevetalkowski/3747826337/ The Sketchbot prototype is on display at the DKE TOYS booth #4732: http://www.flickr.com/photos/stevetalkowski/3747825955/ And, I did an interview with www.iheartcoolstuff.com: http://sketchbot.blogspot.com Comic Con Day 1 is underway! Check my Flickr stream for coverage throughout the next few days. http://www.flickr.com/photos/stevetalkowski - -Steve - -- Steve Talkowski Character Design & Animation http://web.mac.com/stevetalkowski http://sketchbot.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:16:05 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: "Follow The Money" On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Christopher Gross wrote: > On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Nectar At Any Cost! wrote: > > from : >> >> The effects of swine flu are already showing up in higher profits for >>>> >>> makers of vaccines and antiviral drugs as the first pandemic of the 21st >> century makes its way onto corporate bottom lines. << >> >> ...gee, that's convenient. >> > > So, do umbrella makers cause rain? > They would if they could. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:17:17 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: in "funny" (i.e. "ha ha", not "strange") news to-day (attn: windows users) Stewart says: > lep wrote: >> >> BTW, and i've likely mentioned this before, but, IMO, any windows user >> who uses "windows explorer" (i.e. window's native file manager GUI) is >> either a masochist of high order, or unaware of xplorer^2 > > Nah, just host Windows as a VM on a real OS, and when you really need to > do file work, hop into the host OS and use the shell. When Windows goes > sideways, just restore your VM from a known good copy. huh? > (I only have to use a VM 'cos of delightful Korean security protocols - > based on ActiveX, haha) huh? > And I think your last message came through without demime - is demime > dead on smoe? Oli! huh? xo p.s. so i'm lying when i say i study mathematics and not computer science... - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:26:23 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Fwd: hot synths! more synths from my pal Tris's pals... - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: michael hollitscher I think you've got to give Eno some love, at the very least for using the synth as a sound treatment device. Also, the first Roxy record had some outrageous sounds. Prince deserves to get there too, for a lot of those really fat Oberheim sounds throughout the 80s. He gets no props these days, which is criminal. Seriously. Phil Oakey. I've come to realize that the first few Human League records are killer. Listen to Dare or Love and Dancing again. Hutter and Schnider from Kraftwerk are as important in the vocabulary of synths as anyone. Neon Lights is just about the most fully realized synth based pop song of the seventies. Aphex Twin. Selected Ambient Works 85-92 is technically "electronica", techno, whatever. I say they are great songs, harmonically and melodically rich. He built or customized the synths he had. He's got a sound that's instantly recognizable. Honorable mention: Marvin Gaye. I'd mention the title track of the Trouble Man sound track and Here, My Dear. The guy from Brainiac, though he was taken away too soon. That's the best I can do all jetlagged and shit. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:27:43 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Fwd: hot synths! And another ...this guy's first suggestion should warm the hearts of Michael W., Mr. G. Quail, etc.... - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ben Krieger Geddy Lee - He's no technician, but his synth lines are some of the most * hummable*. Merzbow - His noise art is pretty chaotic, particularly the analog 80s and 90s stuff. It always sounds like he's throwing machinery around the room, but if you look at the live videos, there is this calm, meditative Japanese guy twisting knobs on vintage synths and feeding them through all sorts of effects and loop pedals. Hikashu - The best experimental Japanese pop band, IMHO. Great, goofy synths. Check out the 30-second sample of "Nannimonai Otoko" on iTunes. Frequency in Cycles Per Second - Ambient stuff...the cool thing about the record *Beyond the Point* is that all the sounds were made with a EMS Synthi...I love records where only one synth was used. Acid Mothers Temple - Man, I couldn't tell you which record to get by them, it's so hit or miss with the performances and sound quality. But Higashi Hiroshi is a great psychedelic synth player. "Psycho Buddha" off of *New Geocentric World *has some violently cosmic playing. The best release by them is a limited 500 tour EP entitled Hypnotic *Liquid Machine From the Golden Utopia*. I own a copy...really great. Klaus Schultz - He has way too many records, but *Timewind *is great. Giant slabs of krautsynth...this is chill out music, but the textures are cool. In general, the German 70s synth music is cold, cosmic, detached. But I like it. *Cluster 71*. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:52:26 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Horton Hears a Cthulhu (No RH) On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Steve Talkowski wrote: > Knowing the list's penchant for all things Cthulhu, I present the > "Horton Hears Cthulhu!" T-Shirt, on view at San Diego Comic Con > Preview Night: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/stevetalkowski/3747826337/ > > The Sketchbot prototype is on display at the DKE TOYS booth #4732: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/stevetalkowski/3747825955/ > > And, I did an interview with www.iheartcoolstuff.com: > > http://sketchbot.blogspot.com > I'm thinking Talkowski is the same guy who created My Little Cthulhu. Genius. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:35:54 -0700 From: "Nectar At Any Cost!" Subject: Shit-Howdy! thanks for the wooden shjips shout-out, kevin! this is fucking *great*. also fucking *great* is the new wilco live DVD. ah, i just can't figure those of all y'all who think the wilco live experience is past its prime. by the way, quail, i always look forward to your half-year fave-albums roundup. are you not going to submit one this annum? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 01:17:16 +0100 From: Dr John Halewood Subject: RE: hitchcock sighting Jeff with the 2fs wrote > > I"ll have to check this out when I get home - but I've been > thinking for > *years* that Hitchcock & Thompson should play together! Just got back from seeing Richard Thompson, unfortunately no Robyn sighting (didn't expect it really), but Thompson was on good form, particularly on a new (to me) song about Dubya -even by Thompson's standards it's incredibly vitriolic. cheers john ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:05:30 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Shit-Howdy! On Jul 23, 2009, at 4:35 PM, Nectar At Any Cost! wrote: > thanks for the wooden shjips shout-out, kevin! this is fucking > *great*. So funny you mentioned that. I finally got around to grabbing it off eMusic last night and it's freakin' cool as shit! - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:26:05 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: in "funny" (i.e. "ha ha", not "strange") news to-day (attn: windows users) lep wrote: > >> sideways, just restore your VM from a known good copy. > > huh? >> (I only have to use a VM 'cos of delightful Korean security protocols - >> based on ActiveX, haha) > > huh? Stewart - -- np: Sugar Cookie - 3PUEN (cos there's ony so much Malcolm Middleton you can listen to in a day) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:06:49 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Shit-Howdy! On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Tom Clark wrote: > On Jul 23, 2009, at 4:35 PM, Nectar At Any Cost! wrote: > > thanks for the wooden shjips shout-out, kevin! this is fucking *great*. >> > > So funny you mentioned that. I finally got around to grabbing it off > eMusic last night and it's freakin' cool as shit! > I try to help where I can. I think I must of heard about them over at popmatters or somewhere and I liked their stuff right off the bat. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 09:44:09 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: hitchcock sighting http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/jul/23/the-music-of-the-incredible-string-band-review On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Dr John Halewood wrote: > Haven't seen anyone mention this yet (but then haven't been keeping up as > I've only just got out of hospital), but this is pretty good: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gVzYlGFQTE > Robyn and Richard Thompson covering the Incredible String Band at the > Barbican in London last weekend. Likened by one person to 'Jesus and Buddha > sing God'. Whatever. > > cheers > john ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V17 #201 ********************************