From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V17 #195 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, July 16 2009 Volume 17 : Number 195 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Random query (Hitchless) [2fs ] who's nex? [2fs ] Re: Recommended [Rex ] Re: movie talk [Michael Sweeney ] Fave L.A. song (WAS Re: beck / tom waits) [Michael Sweeney ] Re: beck / tom waits [Rex ] Re: Random query (Hitchless) ["craigie*" ] Re:RO returns [James Dignan ] Re: Gwyneth/LA songs [James Dignan ] Re: beck / tom waits [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: movie talk [Carrie Galbraith ] Re: beck / tom waits ["craigie*" ] Re: beck / tom waits [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Gwyneth/LA songs [Tom Clark ] Re: Gwyneth/LA songs [lep ] Re: beck / tom waits [lep ] Re: Gwyneth/LA songs ["craigie*" ] Re: beck / tom waits [kevin studyvin ] Re: beck / tom waits [Tom Clark ] Re: Gwyneth/LA songs [kevin studyvin ] Re: Gwyneth/LA songs [kevin studyvin ] Re: beck / tom waits [kevin studyvin ] Re: Gwyneth/LA songs [Tom Clark ] gwneth (was Re: Gwyneth/LA songs) [lep ] Re: beck / tom waits [Rex ] I can't believe... [2fs ] Re: Gwyneth/LA songs [Rex ] Re: I can't believe... [Jeremy Osner ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:08:52 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Random query (Hitchless) On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 4:17 PM, kevin studyvin wrote: > Am I the only one who senses an unspoken kinship between Talking Heads' > "The > Big Country" and Roxy's "Prairie Rose"? Nope. I noticed that years ago - I think I put them side by side in some mix or other years and years ago. Now what's buggin me is that there's a song that bears a similar relation to Roxy's "Out of the Blue" (it's that sci-fi chord sequence in the verse)...can't think of what it is though. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:45:01 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: who's nex? Hey fegs - A friend of mine is looking for the lyrics to "Up to Our Nex" - has anyone here either found a reliable online source thereof or already transcribed them (to save me the trouble)? Much thankage would be forthcoming. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:06:40 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Recommended On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Nectar At Any Cost! wrote: > > > AND, don't forget to download new bicycle thieves songs! > . "In The Money" (long > version) rivals, in my opinion, "Cavalier" as brian's best work. Well hey, this sure is neat to have! - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 05:05:00 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: Re: movie talk Carrie Galbraith wrote: >>On Jul 14, 2009, at 9:06 PM, Michael Sweeney wrote: > I saw this back when it was out...and really liked it. In fact, I had not > ever really thought much (either way) about Gwyneth (I'm not sure of what of > hers I've seen...beyond "Iron Man" -- oh, and her head in the box back in > "Se7en")...but I came out of watching this movie with a bit of a crush on her > (and me -- pretty much -- never for blondes before).<< >Then you simply MUST see her in The Royal Tennenbaums. She's fabulous! (Well, the whole cast are but she sometimes steals the show.) After that film I had a bit of a crush on her!< ...Well, duh! (or even "D'Oh!") on me -- OF COURSE I saw Tennenbaums...I'm a BIG Wes Anderson fan...AND a J. D. Salinger guy (since the Ts are pretty much an at-angles, millennial version of his Glass family)...and I love that movie and thought she was delightful (and understated) in it... ...I guess that's what I get for not checking IMDB before proclaiming my familiarity with an actor' roles... Michael "However, I never have seen 'Shakespeare in Love'...and her crappy duet with Huey Lewis RUINED that Smokey song for me (AND it seemed to follow us around Vegas when we were there back when it was a semi-hit) " Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC thats right for you. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=ftp_val_wl_290 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 05:10:31 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: Fave L.A. song (WAS Re: beck / tom waits) ...Some good choices so far...and I first started thinking of the several "L.A. songs" by my main SoCA guy, Lindsey Buckingham ("That's How We Do it in L.A.," "Down on Rodeo") and, of course, the over-played (but still good) famous Randy Newman LA anthem that LB sang back-up on... But then I remembered: The Ides of March -- "L.A. Goodbye." Ooh - I LUV that one...so, that's all for me on the subject... Michael "Oh yeah, some early Joni -- 'Ladies of the Canyon,' 'California' -- too" Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC thats right for you. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=ftp_val_wl_290 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:17:05 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: beck / tom waits On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Sebastian Hagedorn < Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-koeln.de> wrote: > -- kevin studyvin is rumored to have mumbled on 15. > Juli 2009 13:45:02 -0700 regarding Re: beck / tom waits: > > My fave Los Angeles song would probably be "L.A." by Neil Young. >> > > Rex's would presumably have to be the one by The Fall :) I do of course love it, and the video is a must see, because Brix is sooooooooo wasted... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxDq5KKNVbA ... but the Neil song beats it. In fact, I have a (SAY IT TOGETHER) near-cellular-level loathing for songs pissing and moaning about LA (cf, the Precise Moment When the Decemberists Failed It). But I love that one. It seems to understand, and it has some of my favorite Ben Keithery evar. X doesn't bitch about LA because they're too busy fucking (with) it. So they always win. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:41:53 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: beck / tom waits On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 10:17 PM, Rex wrote: > > > I do of course love it, and the video is a must see, because Brix is > sooooooooo wasted... > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxDq5KKNVbA > ...not to be confused with this, which WHY DOES GOD LET THINGS LIKE THIS HAPPEN??????///?//? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx6sY9zPqrs - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:03:20 +0100 From: "craigie*" Subject: Re: Random query (Hitchless) I'm embarrassed to know this... it's "God Put A Smile On Your Face" by >shudder< Coldplay... (I heard it on the radio and it instantly reminded me of Roxy) c* 2009/7/16 2fs : > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 4:17 PM, kevin studyvin wrote: > >> Am I the only one who senses an unspoken kinship between Talking Heads' >> "The >> Big Country" and Roxy's "Prairie Rose"? > > > Nope. I noticed that years ago - I think I put them side by side in some mix > or other years and years ago. > > Now what's buggin me is that there's a song that bears a similar relation > to Roxy's "Out of the Blue" (it's that sci-fi chord sequence in the > verse)...can't think of what it is though. > > > > -- > > ...Jeff Norman > > The Architectural Dance Society > http://spanghew.wordpress.com > - -- first things first, but not necessarily in that order... I like my girls to be the same as my records - independent, attractively packaged and in black vinyl (if at all possible)... Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc (the motto of the Addams Family: "We gladly feast on those who would subdue us") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:26:52 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: Re:RO returns >Hi fegs! I have a bit more playtime lately, so I thought I'd drop by. >I think I can pass on the usual lurk time. Welcome back to the freak show, Fric Chaud :) James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:36:37 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: Gwyneth/LA songs >"two lovers", DVD - i rented this because of the good reviews, and because i'm a fucking fool for dear gwyneth. Me too, I'm afraid. "Shakespeare In Love" was what did it for me, of all damn things. (sigh) > My fave Los Angeles song would probably be "L.A." by Neil Young. There are several I'd choose from - and they're all by Warren Zevon. Probably "Desperadoes under the eaves" would hold sway by a narrow margin. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:44:33 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: beck / tom waits - --On 15. Juli 2009 18:07:03 -0400 lep wrote: > "los angeles" by x -- first and last word on the subject. I have never heard a single song by X. I don't think they are very well known in Europe. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 04:33:12 -0700 From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: movie talk On Jul 15, 2009, at 10:05 PM, Michael Sweeney wrote: > Michael "However, I never have seen 'Shakespeare in Love'...and her > crappy duet with Huey Lewis RUINED that Smokey song for me (AND it > seemed to follow us around Vegas when we were there back when it > was a semi-hit) " Sweeney > I liked "Shakespeare in Love." Thought of it as "Tom Stoppard with a budget." I mean after his absolutely brilliant but low-budget 1990 film playing with Shakespeare: "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead," I was thrilled to see him get to hone his wit at the Bard again! Esp. loved the details (which are there in R&GAD) - like the "Stratford-Upon-Avon" souvenir mug on Willie's desk and the play lines that come out not in the writing but in the shrink sessions and elsewhere! Very clever! Both these films deserve a look. And Gwyneth is great in Shakespeare in Love. Even the lesser Fiennes does a good job! - - c "Romeo and Ethyl, The Pirate's Daughter." - --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Let us develop a kind of dangerous unselfishness." Martin Luther King Jr. - --------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:09:42 +0100 From: "craigie*" Subject: Re: beck / tom waits Speak for yourself! I first encountered X in 1982 here in Manchestrer UK... oh, wait... you said *Europe* - we're not considered part of Europe are we? ;-) bwhahaha! c* 2009/7/16 Sebastian Hagedorn : > --On 15. Juli 2009 18:07:03 -0400 lep wrote: > >> "los angeles" by x -- first and last word on the subject. > > I have never heard a single song by X. I don't think they are very well > known in Europe. > - -- first things first, but not necessarily in that order... I like my girls to be the same as my records - independent, attractively packaged and in black vinyl (if at all possible)... Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc (the motto of the Addams Family: "We gladly feast on those who would subdue us") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:26:00 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: beck / tom waits - --On 16. Juli 2009 13:09:42 +0100 craigie* wrote: > Speak for yourself! I did, didn't I? :) > I first encountered X in 1982 here in Manchestrer UK... oh, wait... > you said *Europe* - we're not considered part of Europe are we? ;-) That *may* be part of it, but the other factor is that I'm much younger. In 1982 I was listening to Scorpions and Deep Purple. So I should clarify that people my age and below aren't usually familar with X - perhaps that's the same in the US? - -- b. Sebastian Hagedorn b Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-koeln.de b' http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:07:06 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Gwyneth/LA songs On Jul 16, 2009, at 3:36 AM, James Dignan wrote: >> My fave Los Angeles song would probably be "L.A." by Neil Young. > > There are several I'd choose from - and they're all by Warren Zevon. > Probably "Desperadoes under the eaves" would hold sway by a narrow > margin. Good one. I don't think "Carmelita" name checks anything in particular in LA, but I always see the story playing out there. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:16:19 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: Gwyneth/LA songs James says: > hold sway you're the only person outside of howard devoto that i've heard use this phrase. or is it an idiom? i don't actually know the difference between a phrase and an idiom, except that i tend to like idioms (i imagine this isn't the technical definition.) xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:25:12 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: beck / tom waits Rex says: > X doesn't bitch about LA because they're too busy fucking (with) it. So > they always win. i don't know what that means. xo p.s. i do so wish my adored dr. temperance brennan had continued to use this as her catch phrase. it's so all occasion (probably moreso for me than most people.) - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:40:24 +0100 From: "craigie*" Subject: Re: Gwyneth/LA songs I use it too. But I guess you'd expect that... :D c* 2009/7/16 lep : > James says: >> hold sway > > you're the only person outside of howard devoto that i've heard use > this phrase. or is it an idiom? i don't actually know the difference > between a phrase and an idiom, except that i tend to like idioms (i > imagine this isn't the technical definition.) > > xo > > -- > "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha > - -- first things first, but not necessarily in that order... I like my girls to be the same as my records - independent, attractively packaged and in black vinyl (if at all possible)... Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc (the motto of the Addams Family: "We gladly feast on those who would subdue us") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:04:40 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: beck / tom waits > i don't know what that means. > > xo > > p.s. i do so wish my adored dr. temperance brennan had continued to > use this as her catch phrase. it's so all occasion (probably moreso > for me than most people.) > Speaking of things Deschanel, I've been noticing in the ads for Zooey's new movie some cadences and tones that are crazy similar to Emily's. Why doesn't some casting guy put those two together in some project? I'm betting they'd be comedy gold. Even tragedy gold. If there is such a thing. ...currently relishing Karen O.'s killer reading of "Highway 61" from the I'm Not There soundtrack. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:03:57 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: beck / tom waits On Jul 16, 2009, at 3:44 AM, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > I have never heard a single song by X. This must be rectified! - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:18:16 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Gwyneth/LA songs On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 8:07 AM, Tom Clark wrote: > On Jul 16, 2009, at 3:36 AM, James Dignan wrote: > > My fave Los Angeles song would probably be "L.A." by Neil Young. >>> >> >> There are several I'd choose from - and they're all by Warren Zevon. >> Probably "Desperadoes under the eaves" would hold sway by a narrow margin. >> > > > Good one. > I don't think "Carmelita" name checks anything in particular in LA, but I > always see the story playing out there. > Well, aside from Alvarado Street, and Pioneer Chicken, and Echo Park - it's about as site-specific as you could ask for. Also, ditto on the "Desperadoes Under the Eaves" - brilliant call. Tangentially I woke up with Waits' "Diamonds On My Windshield" in my head, which always reminds me of the Harbor Freeway early in the A.M., but I couldn't tell you why. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:25:11 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Gwyneth/LA songs > Good one. >> I don't think "Carmelita" name checks anything in particular in LA, but I >> always see the story playing out there. >> > > Well, aside from Alvarado Street, and Pioneer Chicken, and Echo Park - it's > about as site-specific as you could ask for. Also, ditto on the > "Desperadoes Under the Eaves" - brilliant call. > > Tangentially I woke up with Waits' "Diamonds On My Windshield" in my head, > which always reminds me of the Harbor Freeway early in the A.M., but I > couldn't tell you why. > Also I'm thinking it's a Pioneer Chicken that a seriously seedy-looking Crazy Horse were standing around in front of in the photo from their first (irreplaceable) album... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:45:24 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: beck / tom waits On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Tom Clark wrote: > On Jul 16, 2009, at 3:44 AM, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > > I have never heard a single song by X. >> > > This must be rectified! > Wild Gift, dood. Wild Gift. Or Under the Big Black Sun. "When Our Love Passed Out On the Couch" has got to be, if nothing else, one of the greatest titles ever. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:38:49 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Gwyneth/LA songs On Jul 16, 2009, at 9:18 AM, kevin studyvin wrote: >> I don't think "Carmelita" name checks anything in particular in LA, >> but I >> always see the story playing out there. >> > > Well, aside from Alvarado Street, and Pioneer Chicken, and Echo Park > - it's > about as site-specific as you could ask for. Also, ditto on the > "Desperadoes Under the Eaves" - brilliant call. Pioneer Chicken was the only thing that popped into my head about the song and I never knew it was a real place. Echo Park though - yeah. - -tc p.s. I love Gwynnie too. (I call her Gwynnie) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:52:18 -0400 From: lep Subject: gwneth (was Re: Gwyneth/LA songs) tc says: > p.s. I love Gwynnie too. (I call her Gwynnie) is that so we can say "tc + gwynnie"? (see how i stopped myself from mentioning "sitting in a tree"?) two of my other favourite gwyneth movies: (1) "great expectations" - i don't care what anyone says about this movie. i adore it. i own a copy of the DVD. gwyneth wears something green and jaw-droppingly stunning in *every* scene. and, sheesh, the soundtrack has a tori amos (original, even) song *and* a pulp song. really, what more could you want? (2) "proof" - again, not the best movie; i don't care. i adore it. i own a copy of the DVD. and sadly, it says more than i ever could about my relationship with my sister. guess which one i am? choices are: (a) crazy math girl, or (b) uptight control freak? i'm not sure when i first saw ms. paltrow in a movie - maybe "emma"? i hate that shit. but she was so darling in it that, for an hour or two, i totally forgot that i'm a tomboy. xo lauren - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:07:47 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: beck / tom waits On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 8:25 AM, lep wrote: > Rex says: > > X doesn't bitch about LA because they're too busy fucking (with) it. So > > they always win. > > i don't know what that means. They bitch from within and celebrate at the same time. Admittedly that's a hideously reductive way to describe X, and I apologize to them for it. But they know I love them, so it's probably okay. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:09:41 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: I can't believe... ...that Jeremy posted this to Facebook but not the Feglist: < http://infinitedetox.wordpress.com/2009/07/16/harry-potter-infinite-jest/> - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:10:44 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Gwyneth/LA songs On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Tom Clark wrote: > On Jul 16, 2009, at 9:18 AM, kevin studyvin wrote: > > I don't think "Carmelita" name checks anything in particular in LA, but I >>> always see the story playing out there. >>> >>> >> Well, aside from Alvarado Street, and Pioneer Chicken, and Echo Park - >> it's >> about as site-specific as you could ask for. Also, ditto on the >> "Desperadoes Under the Eaves" - brilliant call. >> > > Pioneer Chicken was the only thing that popped into my head about the song > and I never knew it was a real place. Echo Park though - yeah. Confirmed. I'm told there used to be a whole bunch of them, so WZ may have had another one in mind, but I totally freaked the first time I saw that place (years ago!), and my girlfriend (native) didn't get it at all. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:15:00 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: I can't believe... > ...that Jeremy posted this to Facebook but not the Feglist: < An oversight. Thanks! J If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V17 #195 ********************************