From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V17 #158 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, May 30 2009 Volume 17 : Number 158 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Is this a great country, or what? [kevin studyvin ] Re: movie talk (up and coming division) [Marc ] Re: Is this a great country, or what? [2fs ] Re: movie talk (up and coming division) [Christopher Gross ] Re: I swear I saw this... [kevin studyvin ] Re: movie talk (up and coming division) [Marc ] French translation help [munki1972@yahoo.com] Re: movie talk (up and coming division) ["gene@hopstetter.com" ] Re: movie talk (up and coming division) [kevin studyvin ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 23:46:52 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Is this a great country, or what? > More than anything else, the reason I wouldn't get a tattoo is that they > don't... what's the phrase? Oh, yes, they don't look good. Opaque stuff > painted on a human body can look great, but tattoos have kind of sickly > blue > lines where the black should be, and have an unnatural cast because human > skin tones just aren't neutral enough to serve as a base color for most > things. > > But if I had to get one at gunpoint, slap a trilobite on my right should > and > I'll be fine. > > -Rex > Had a plan at one point to get Bettie Page on the left shoulder and Rita Hayworth on the left one but it never actually what you call, umm, happened, and no longer seems appropriate in light of my advancing age and the nineties being pretty much over and stuff. Sill a big Rita Hayworth fan though. I swear to jeeziz, if I have to endure that Sarah McLaughlin SPCA commercial one more time I'm gonna go out and set some kittens on fire just out of general peevishness. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 07:57:50 -0400 From: Marc Subject: Re: movie talk (up and coming division) djini@voicenet.com wrote: > I'm really enjoying the discussion of comedies. My love of Blazing Saddles and Young > Frankenstein is well documented, and of course Barton Fink, and Blue Velvet (I saw Blue > Velvet with some friends in one of those college film nights, and I think we were the > only ones laughing in the theater. We got the giggles and couldn't stop.) But I find > that comedies are more fun at home than in a theater. I think there's something about > laughing together that is very intimate, and I think it's harder relax into it in a > theater. Maybe it's just me. The exception to the rule is the South Park movie - I saw > it in a packed house, and the entire place was simply roaring the whole way through. Oh, > and The Fast and the Furious, which I saw with a friend in an otherwise empty theater. > It was like our own little MST3K - we heckled non-stop. That was fun. > Jeanne > Same with South Park for me. I still have it ranked as my funniest movie of all time for it's combination of humor, intelligence, quickness, and comedy level of the gags (searching the internet for "clitoris" only to find 8m hits, the first being Cartman's mom, was classic, as was the doctors proclaiming success at Cartman's v-chip success as a parody of A Clockwork Orange. And we shant forget the opening song of the T&P movie :D). But I can't help but think some of my affection for it is due to seeing it first in a crowded theater that was in stitches the entire time. Marc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 08:01:45 -0400 From: Marc Subject: Re: movie talk (up and coming division) Miles Goosens wrote: > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 6:52 PM, kevin studyvin wrote: >> And in response to whoever's query - yes, Raising Arizon was a Coen Bros >> film. Second or third, so you can blame that on the old learning curve. > > Blame? RAISING ARIZONA not only is my favorite Coen Brothers movie, > but my favorite movie, period. > > later, > > Miles Not my favorite Coen film, but I don't understand the hate, either. There are parts that are uproariously funny (Nathan Arizona's talking to his store manager about having tables but no chairs in stock cracks me up). It isn't a polished movie compared to their later ones, but for me it certainly is far more fun than a movie like Fargo, which I found to be essentially a big long "look how funny people with Minnesota accents sound" film. Marc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 09:43:30 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Is this a great country, or what? On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 1:21 AM, Rex wrote: > > More than anything else, the reason I wouldn't get a tattoo is that they > don't... what's the phrase? Oh, yes, they don't look good. Opaque stuff > painted on a human body can look great, but tattoos have kind of sickly > blue > lines where the black should be, and have an unnatural cast because human > skin tones just aren't neutral enough to serve as a base color for most > things. Which is why of the ones I cited the other day, two were black, and the other was on a very fair-skinned person. But yeah: the general tattoo aesthetic seems to be summed up by "murk, and more of it." - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 12:03:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: movie talk (up and coming division) >>> And in response to whoever's query - yes, Raising Arizon was a Coen Bros >>> film. Second or third, so you can blame that on the old learning curve. >> >> Blame? RAISING ARIZONA not only is my favorite Coen Brothers movie, >> but my favorite movie, period. > > Not my favorite Coen film, but I don't understand the hate, either. There are > parts that are uproariously funny (Nathan Arizona's talking to his store > manager about having tables but no chairs in stock cracks me up). My own experience might shed some light here. Now, I don't hate Raising Arizona; in fact I think it's pretty good. But IMO it's widely overrated, so much so that in reaction I've developed a mild antipathy toward it. Maybe the hatred is a more extreme version of the same reaction. Until recently, The Big Lebowski was my favorite of the Coen brothers' comedies. But now that it's developed this annoying cult, another antipathy may be brewing.... That would leave me with O Brother Where Art Thou, I guess. Fargo (which I like far more than Marc does) goes with the dramas rather than the comedies in my book. Of course, Miller's Crossing is my favorite Coen Bros. movie overall. - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 15:35:09 -0400 From: Great Quail Subject: I swear I saw this... ...Wednesday at the local J&R music store. A whole cardboard display rack, a lovely powder blue in color, with illustrated flowers. And at the top it said -- in pre-printed letters! -- "Mother's Day Sale!" And what was on sale? Every Frank Zappa CD. The entire rack was filled with Zappa. And there was an image of Zappa on the cardboard, too, so it wasn't just borrowed from an Indigo Girls promotion by a cheeky ironic clerk. (Trust me, J&R is run by Russian Orthodox Jews. It is strictly a no-irony zone*.) What next? Every Rush CD on sale for Secretary's Day? - --Quail, who has three tattoos *PS: When I bought the new Tori CD, the heavyset Russian clerk looked at me and said, "You want poster with that?" I love New York. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 13:05:45 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: I swear I saw this... On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Great Quail wrote: > ...Wednesday at the local J&R music store. A whole cardboard display rack, > a > lovely powder blue in color, with illustrated flowers. And at the top it > said -- in pre-printed letters! -- "Mother's Day Sale!" And what was on > sale? > > Every Frank Zappa CD. The entire rack was filled with Zappa. And there was > an image of Zappa on the cardboard, too, so it wasn't just borrowed from an > Indigo Girls promotion by a cheeky ironic clerk. (Trust me, J&R is run by > Russian Orthodox Jews. It is strictly a no-irony zone*.) > > What next? Every Rush CD on sale for Secretary's Day? > > --Quail, who has three tattoos > > *PS: When I bought the new Tori CD, the heavyset Russian clerk looked at me > and said, "You want poster with that?" I love New York. > Sounds like Gail at work... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 16:11:17 -0400 From: Marc Subject: Re: movie talk (up and coming division) Christopher Gross wrote: > Until recently, The Big Lebowski was my favorite of the Coen brothers' > comedies. But now that it's developed this annoying cult, another > antipathy may be brewing.... That would leave me with O Brother Where > Art Thou, I guess. Fargo (which I like far more than Marc does) goes > with the dramas rather than the comedies in my book. Of course, > Miller's Crossing is my favorite Coen Bros. movie overall. I know what you mean about Lebowski but for me it isn't antipathy so much as bemusement because lines like "the Dude abides" just don't seem that funny to me when I'm not stoned. Tuturro's Jesus, though, is comedy gold. Also, I think I'm one of the few folks that thinks The Hudsucker Proxy is brilliant. Most people think it is pretty lame, but I guess I'm too much of a fan of the old Preston Sturges movies to not thoroughly enjoy that one. Marc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 15:53:19 -0700 (PDT) From: munki1972@yahoo.com Subject: French translation help Everyone I know took Spanish since it's actually useful but: Can anyone provide me with a translation to French of: 15 people in Montreal are working furiously on their Nelson Muntz impressions. Google gives me: 15 personnes 'a Montre'al, travaillent avec acharnement sur leurs Nelson Muntz impressions. Which I suspect, being google, isn't quite right. "I love how (coffee) makes me feel. It's like my heart is trying to hug my brain!" -- Kenneth Parcell ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 19:38:12 -0500 From: "gene@hopstetter.com" Subject: Re: movie talk (up and coming division) Lists of favorite comedies, and... ... no "Sixteen Candles"? No "Fast Times at Ridgemont High"? No "Better Off Dead"? Did y'all grow up in Estonia? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 21:37:42 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: movie talk (up and coming division) Marc says: > Also, > I think I'm one of the few folks that thinks The Hudsucker Proxy is > brilliant. Most people think it is pretty lame, but I guess I'm too much of > a fan of the old Preston Sturges movies to not thoroughly enjoy that one. i'm with you on this, marc. i'd love it just for the set designs. but i love everything about it. it's so...big. i've kind of suspected that moviegoers just expect too much out of the coen brothers. the boys should throw out a *true* dud now and again (N.B.: insert *not even one* "raising arizona" joke here). so really they have no one to blame but themselves - being consistently talented is a good strategy for being underappreciated. xo p.s. i even liked "intolerable cruelty." in my defense, i'm a total sucker for a jumbo poodle. plus i saw it with my mom and it always amused me to no end to to hear her swoon like a half a teenager over mr. clooney. but honestly, take away the big poodle and the swooning, and i'd probably *still* like it... - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 20:01:02 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: movie talk (up and coming division) On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 5:38 PM, gene@hopstetter.com wrote: > Lists of favorite comedies, and... > > ... no "Sixteen Candles"? > > No "Fast Times at Ridgemont High"? No "Better Off Dead"? > > Did y'all grow up in Estonia? > Have little use for 80s cultural product generally, but yes, Better Off Dead kills. Kills. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 20:06:52 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: movie talk (up and coming division) On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 6:37 PM, lep wrote: > Marc says: > > Also, > > I think I'm one of the few folks that thinks The Hudsucker Proxy is > > brilliant. Most people think it is pretty lame, but I guess I'm too much > of > > a fan of the old Preston Sturges movies to not thoroughly enjoy that one. > > i'm with you on this, marc. i'd love it just for the set designs. > but i love everything about it. it's so...big. That was the one with Paul Newman and Charles Durning, and Jennifer Jason Leigh as a Rosalind Russell analogue? I loved that movie. > > > i've kind of suspected that moviegoers just expect too much out of the > coen brothers. the boys should throw out a *true* dud now and again > (N.B.: insert *not even one* "raising arizona" joke here). so really > they have no one to blame but themselves - being consistently talented > is a good strategy for being underappreciated. > > xo > > p.s. i even liked "intolerable cruelty." in my defense, i'm a total > sucker for a jumbo poodle. plus i saw it with my mom and it always > amused me to no end to to hear her swoon like a half a teenager over > mr. clooney. but honestly, take away the big poodle and the swooning, > and i'd probably *still* like it... > Ditto on the Intolerable Cruelty. Saw it with my wife who enjoyed it in spite of hating Catherine Zeta Jones - she's convinced she was just being herself in High Fidelity and there was no acting involved. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 07:10:47 -0400 From: lep Subject: always the last to know... not *one* of youFegs bothered to reap the old hairstyle? sheesh. come on, kids, get with the program: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-spector30-2009may30,0,1540646.story as ever, lauren - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V17 #158 ********************************