From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V17 #148 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, May 18 2009 Volume 17 : Number 148 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Pepe [Carrie Galbraith ] Re: movie talk ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Pepe ["Stewart C. Russell" ] all right, cats [David Stovall ] Re: all right, cats [Eleanore Adams ] Re: all right, cats [Laura Dean Golias ] Re: all right, cats [2fs ] my genius ideas [2fs ] Re: my genius ideas [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: all right, cats [lep ] Re: my genius ideas [lep ] Re: all right, cats [kevin studyvin ] Re: my genius ideas [2fs ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 03:01:37 -0700 From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: Pepe On May 16, 2009, at 1:47 PM, 2fs wrote: > On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Michael Sweeney > wrote: > >> >> Michael "Selina's and Maggie's passing were bad enough...and >> Joey's getting >> up >> there...but, I simply cannot fathom losing either (or both!) of the >> 'Kittens' >> eventually...sigh..." Sweeney >> > > That is, of course, the saddest part of having any pets (except for > those of > you with pet tortoises or elephants): we outlive them, and so we > must mourn > losing them. > Oddly - while I have had one or two dreams about the dog I grew up with (my brother's dog named Star) I dream, on a regular basis, about my cat Sherry. I mean regular. Like once a month. Now I got the cat for my 6th birthday and she died when I was 22. I'm, *gasp* 52 now. So this cat has had a cameo in my dream life for 30 years. How is that possible? Some powerful Totem if you ask me... - - c - --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Let us develop a kind of dangerous unselfishness." Martin Luther King Jr. - --------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 07:44:22 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: movie talk lep wrote: > > *adventureland* Yes, it's extremely good. Ill-advised fashions and pristine K-cars a go go. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 07:47:28 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Pepe Rex rote: > Why? And furthermore how does that follow? 'cos listening to The Fall makes me angry and depressed. YMMV. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 12:17:55 -0400 From: David Stovall Subject: all right, cats So I'll finally break down and post some cat-ephemera. I have three, litter-mates, going on 8 years old. They arrived, along with their two siblings (Wilhelm and Dark Matter, now living elsewhere) and their neighborhood-stray mother (also still, as far as I know, living elsewhere) in my garage one day in Aug 2001. For some reason, I'd parked in the driveway instead of all the way in the garage, and walked through, and heard, Horton-like, this barely audible, tiny-violin-quintet of something coming from somewhere, and finally traced it down to underneath a broken snow shovel against the back wall. They were probably two weeks old or younger at the time. I waited till they were old enough to be nabbed from their mother, but ended up tricking her feral ass into my screened in porch to take care of them anyway, and got her cleaned up/de-flead/vaccinated/fixed, etc., but never particularly friendlied up. Malkovich - is dim. Seriously, just daft. Maybe three brain cells. Had trouble learning to eat from a dish when he was little - just shoved his face into the soft-food-in-milk mash and sucked. Also, a total stoner, despite the deceiving tuxedo'd appearance. His trick: No matter where he is in the house, no matter how thoroughly asleep and underneath a heavy blanket, when I open the butter-dish-like catnip canister - *thud* *trottrottrottrottrottrot*mrROW?* - he's *there* in 10 seconds or less. This is not an exaggeration. Shown here in compromising position: http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l179/da9ve/cats/?action=view¤t=2007-02-12-compromising-position.jpg or http://tinyurl.com/qf7nej ...and here in "Little Chair or Huge Cat: You Decide!" pose (well, he's fairly large - ~16 pounds or so, somewhat tubby, but also just beefy and strong as an ox): http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l179/da9ve/cats/?action=view¤t=small-chair-or-giant-cat.jpg or http://tinyurl.com/pz99te Meuss - so named because a) he was the biggest of the litter - the "moose" and b) because his mother's name ended up being Seuss, due to her goofy mustache (she's a tuxedo like Malkovich, and this goofy white mustache on her face curls up on one side). Meuss is a Holstein, has a belly-dot (not visible in pic) and a goatee, and his tail is about two inches longer than it should be and white-tipped - basically, he's got about the goofiest paint-job a cat can have; shown here instructing me to talk to the paw: http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l179/da9ve/cats/?action=view¤t=20070601-meuss-claw-of-death.jpg or http://tinyurl.com/qhytcj And Chewbacca (Chewie), the one girl of the litter, petite tortoiseshell, but absolutely The Boss, watching an educational/inspirational DVD: http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l179/da9ve/cats/?action=view¤t=2009-01-04-chewie-tigers.jpg or http://tinyurl.com/orsp4s They are endless fun, and I hope they last at least another 10 years. My family has always had a menagerie - cats, dogs, turtles, rats (the cute, hooded Norwegian ones, who are actually very smart and personable), at least one hamster, the occasional snake,... da9ve ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 09:42:58 -0700 From: Eleanore Adams Subject: Re: all right, cats We also call Olive aka Vomitor, cheese cat, cause she is the color of cheddar cheese. ea On May 17, 2009, at 9:17 AM, David Stovall wrote: > So I'll finally break down and post some cat-ephemera. I have three, > litter-mates, going on 8 years old. They arrived, along with their > two siblings (Wilhelm and Dark Matter, now living elsewhere) and their > neighborhood-stray mother (also still, as far as I know, living > elsewhere) in my garage one day in Aug 2001. For some reason, I'd > parked in the driveway instead of all the way in the garage, and > walked through, and heard, Horton-like, this barely audible, > tiny-violin-quintet of something coming from somewhere, and finally > traced it down to underneath a broken snow shovel against the back > wall. They were probably two weeks old or younger at the time. I > waited till they were old enough to be nabbed from their mother, but > ended up tricking her feral ass into my screened in porch to take care > of them anyway, and got her cleaned up/de-flead/vaccinated/fixed, > etc., but never particularly friendlied up. > > Malkovich - is dim. Seriously, just daft. Maybe three brain cells. > Had trouble learning to eat from a dish when he was little - just > shoved his face into the soft-food-in-milk mash and sucked. Also, a > total stoner, despite the deceiving tuxedo'd appearance. His trick: > No matter where he is in the house, no matter how thoroughly asleep > and underneath a heavy blanket, when I open the butter-dish-like > catnip canister - *thud* *trottrottrottrottrottrot*mrROW?* - he's > *there* in 10 seconds or less. This is not an exaggeration. Shown > here in compromising position: > > http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l179/da9ve/cats/? > action=view¤t=2007-02-12-compromising-position.jpg > > or http://tinyurl.com/qf7nej > > ...and here in "Little Chair or Huge Cat: You Decide!" pose (well, > he's fairly large - ~16 pounds or so, somewhat tubby, but also just > beefy and strong as an ox): > > http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l179/da9ve/cats/? > action=view¤t=small-chair-or-giant-cat.jpg > > or http://tinyurl.com/pz99te > > Meuss - so named because a) he was the biggest of the litter - the > "moose" and b) because his mother's name ended up being Seuss, due to > her goofy mustache (she's a tuxedo like Malkovich, and this goofy > white mustache on her face curls up on one side). > > Meuss is a Holstein, has a belly-dot (not visible in pic) and a > goatee, and his tail is about two inches longer than it should be and > white-tipped - basically, he's got about the goofiest paint-job a cat > can have; shown here instructing me to talk to the paw: > > http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l179/da9ve/cats/? > action=view¤t=20070601-meuss-claw-of-death.jpg > > or http://tinyurl.com/qhytcj > > And Chewbacca (Chewie), the one girl of the litter, petite > tortoiseshell, but absolutely The Boss, watching an > educational/inspirational DVD: > > http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l179/da9ve/cats/? > action=view¤t=2009-01-04-chewie-tigers.jpg > > or http://tinyurl.com/orsp4s > > They are endless fun, and I hope they last at least another 10 years. > My family has always had a menagerie - cats, dogs, turtles, rats (the > cute, hooded Norwegian ones, who are actually very smart and > personable), at least one hamster, the occasional snake,... > > da9ve ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 13:44:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Laura Dean Golias Subject: Re: all right, cats Your cats are beautiful! I've had cats my whole life. Right now, we have 2; Zo (male tabby) and Ruby (black female). Zo is dumb, but sweet. Ruby plots world domination daily. Sometimes I think she's just plain evil. If I let her sleep in the bedroom with us, she would probably kill me in my sleep. We lost Zo's brother Timlin and Ruby's sister Roxy to feline leukemia. I still miss them. I also miss my sweet boy, Robyn (yes, I named him after RH). I was with Ob for 14 years. He died of cancer, in my arms. It was terribly traumatic. A lot of people think you can't bond with a cat, but I have to disagree. Losing Ob was like losing a piece of my soul. Animals will break your heart. After all, you don't get to keep them, only borrow them for a while. Laura Dean Golias ldgolias1@verizon.net So I'll finally break down and post some cat-ephemera. I have three, litter-mates, going on 8 years old. They arrived, along with their two siblings (Wilhelm and Dark Matter, now living elsewhere) and their neighborhood-stray mother (also still, as far as I know, living elsewhere) in my garage one day in Aug 2001. For some reason, I'd parked in the driveway instead of all the way in the garage, and walked through, and heard, Horton-like, this barely audible, tiny-violin-quintet of something coming from somewhere, and finally traced it down to underneath a broken snow shovel against the back wall. They were probably two weeks old or younger at the time. I waited till they were old enough to be nabbed from their mother, but ended up tricking her feral ass into my screened in porch to take care of them anyway, and got her cleaned up/de-flead/vaccinated/fixed, etc., but never particularly friendlied up. Malkovich - is dim. Seriously, just daft. Maybe three brain cells. Had trouble learning to eat from a dish when he was little - just shoved his face into the soft-food-in-milk mash and sucked. Also, a total stoner, despite the deceiving tuxedo'd appearance. His trick: No matter where he is in the house, no matter how thoroughly asleep and underneath a heavy blanket, when I open the butter-dish-like catnip canister - *thud* *trottrottrottrottrottrot*mrROW?* - he's *there* in 10 seconds or less. This is not an exaggeration. Shown here in compromising position: http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l179/da9ve/cats/?action=vie w¤t=2007-02-12-compromising-position.jpg or http://tinyurl.com/qf7nej ...and here in "Little Chair or Huge Cat: You Decide!" pose (well, he's fairly large - ~16 pounds or so, somewhat tubby, but also just beefy and strong as an ox): http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l179/da9ve/cats/?action=vie w¤t=small-chair-or-giant-cat.jpg or http://tinyurl.com/pz99te Meuss - so named because a) he was the biggest of the litter - the "moose" and b) because his mother's name ended up being Seuss, due to her goofy mustache (she's a tuxedo like Malkovich, and this goofy white mustache on her face curls up on one side). Meuss is a Holstein, has a belly-dot (not visible in pic) and a goatee, and his tail is about two inches longer than it should be and white-tipped - basically, he's got about the goofiest paint-job a cat can have; shown here instructing me to talk to the paw: http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l179/da9ve/cats/?action=vie w¤t=20070601-meuss-claw-of-death.jpg or http://tinyurl.com/qhytcj And Chewbacca (Chewie), the one girl of the litter, petite tortoiseshell, but absolutely The Boss, watching an educational/inspirational DVD: http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l179/da9ve/cats/?action=vie w¤t=2009-01-04-chewie-tigers.jpg or http://tinyurl.com/orsp4s They are endless fun, and I hope they last at least another 10 years. My family has always had a menagerie - cats, dogs, turtles, rats (the cute, hooded Norwegian ones, who are actually very smart and personable), at least one hamster, the occasional snake,... da9ve ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 16:01:47 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: all right, cats On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Laura Dean Golias wrote: > > I was with Ob for 14 years. He died of cancer, in my arms. It was > terribly traumatic. A lot of people think you can't bond with a cat, but > I have to disagree. Such people have, obviously, never bonded with a cat. When it was our first cat Spin's time to go, I cried about as hard as I've cried in my life. I still miss him. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 22:50:03 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: my genius ideas 1) A gizmo to simulate stereo sound "sweet spot" anywhere in a room with an array of multiple speakers, by means of the gizmo's location (with the listener) being detectable by a device controlling the speaker outputs, which adjusts volume to each speaker accordingly (might also be able to sense the acoustics of the room and equalize according to preset preferences, so if the listener is in a corner that emphasizes certain bass frequencies, the gizmo de-emphasizes same). This might exist for all I know. 2) People who look at computers too long tend not to blink often enough, resulting in dry eyes, etc. But here's a guess (does anyone know if there's any substance to it?): if the monitor were to "blink" in very rapid intervals on occasion (blipping off for a millisecond or something), I'm thinking people would blink in response, even if they had no idea why, and if the time of the monitor blink were short enough, it wouldn't be consciously perceived. I will now step away from the computer and let the sane people handle things... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 07:22:40 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: my genius ideas - -- 2fs is rumored to have mumbled on 17. Mai 2009 22:50:03 -0500 regarding my genius ideas: > 1) A gizmo to simulate stereo sound "sweet spot" anywhere in a room with > an array of multiple speakers, by means of the gizmo's location (with the > listener) being detectable by a device controlling the speaker outputs, > which adjusts volume to each speaker accordingly (might also be able to > sense the acoustics of the room and equalize according to preset > preferences, so if the listener is in a corner that emphasizes certain > bass frequencies, the gizmo de-emphasizes same). This might exist for all > I know. It does. Many upscale AV receivers have that. I don't know how well it works, because I've only read about it. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 01:26:26 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: all right, cats Laura says: > A lot of people think you can't bond with a cat, i don't like those people. xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 01:40:07 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: my genius ideas 2fs says: > 2) People who look at computers too long tend not to blink often enough, > resulting in dry eyes, etc. But here's a guess (does anyone know if there's > any substance to it?): if the monitor were to "blink" in very rapid > intervals on occasion (blipping off for a millisecond or something), I'm > thinking people would blink in response, even if they had no idea why, and > if the time of the monitor blink were short enough, it wouldn't be > consciously perceived. this, i think, would be problematic. you're treating blinking as though it's somewhat similar to yawning (i.e. it's contagious), and i don't know that blinking works in that. it might help if one anthropomorphizes their computer, or at least their monitor. my AI teacher's laptop had a pop-up window that came up every ten minutes which said "Take a Break!" now, i thought, well, this will be fun - it'll be all BSG discussions and trips to the soda machine. but, sadly, it was just her way of reminding herself to take a break from looking at the monitor (the guideline she went by was that every ten minutes, one should look 10 feet away from the screen, for 10 seconds.) now on to *my* genius ideas: along with my suggested regular feglist columns ("movie talk", "christopher gross, please explain!", and "spike and his shirt: WTF?"***), i submit a new column: "my genius ideas." as ever, lauren *** we don't need to discuss my failed suggested column: "BSG talk (...please?....anyone?... hey! where the frak did everyone go?)" - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 02:17:09 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: all right, cats On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 10:26 PM, lep wrote: > Laura says: > > A lot of people think you can't bond with a cat, > > i don't like those people. > > xo > > -- > "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha > As opposed to, say, Krazy Glue? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 07:49:16 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: my genius ideas On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 12:40 AM, lep wrote: > 2fs says: > > 2) People who look at computers too long tend not to blink often enough, > > resulting in dry eyes, etc. But here's a guess (does anyone know if > there's > > any substance to it?): if the monitor were to "blink" in very rapid > > intervals on occasion (blipping off for a millisecond or something), I'm > > thinking people would blink in response, even if they had no idea why, > and > > if the time of the monitor blink were short enough, it wouldn't be > > consciously perceived. > > this, i think, would be problematic. you're treating blinking as > though it's somewhat similar to yawning (i.e. it's contagious), and i > don't know that blinking works in that. Well yeah - I'm thinking it may. I don't *know* that it does either. But my thought was that the apparently static nature of the visual display is one reason people don't blink, and that disrupting that might cause a sort of "did I see that?" unconscious blink reaction in viewers. I don't know how one might go about causing someone to blink. Perhaps someone should ask Robyn... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V17 #148 ********************************