From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V17 #147 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Sunday, May 17 2009 Volume 17 : Number 147 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: 2q, 1p [James Dignan ] Re:probability of NYT happening [James Dignan ] Re: OMG (100% dollhouse) [kevin studyvin ] Re: OMG (100% dollhouse) [lep ] Re: OMG (100% dollhouse) [kevin studyvin ] Re: I've fallen [michaeljbachman@comcast.net] Video (DV) file conversion [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Pepe [Michael Sweeney ] Re: 2q, 1p [2fs ] Re: Pepe [2fs ] Re: I've fallen [Steve Schiavo ] Re: Pepe ["Stewart C. Russell" ] We're dealing with a menace (NR) [Steve Schiavo ] Re: Pepe [lep ] hippie camp (nr) [Steve Schiavo ] girls, yay [lep ] Re: We're dealing with a menace (NR) [Eleanore Adams ] Is On-Topic, Bitches! ["Nectar At Any Cost!" ] Re: Pepe [Rex ] Re: We're dealing with a menace (NR) [Rex ] movie talk [lep ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 19:04:37 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: 2q, 1p > FWIW, the imdb listing of the credits has Robyn appearing as "Wedding > Guest" > rather than as "Self". That;'s a very unusual first name, though. How come there aren't more kids christened "Wedding"? James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 19:08:41 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: Re:probability of NYT happening >"Statisticians like Efron emphasize that when something striking happens, it >only incidentally happens to us. When the numbers are large enough, and the >distracting details are removed, the chance of anything is fairly high. >Imagine a meadow, he says, and then imagine placing your finger on a blade >of grass. The chance of choosing exactly that blade of grass would be one in >a million or even higher, but because it is a certainty that you will choose >a blade of grass, the odds of one particular one being chosen are no more or >less than the one to either side." This is related to the old saw of things happening in threes. The chances of a fairly uncommon thing happening twice aren't particularly low; the chances of it happening four times are very low. So we tend to notice when something striking happens in a group of three - it's just rare enough to be significant. because of that, when something happens twice, we instantly start looking for it to happen a third time. However, if we only start looking then, the chances of it happening a third time are exactly the same as the chances of it happening once in normal circumstaances (unless of course, the occurrences are dependent on each other). It makes it even more likely then that we'd notice those cases where a third thing happens. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 00:51:16 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: OMG (100% dollhouse) On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 9:17 PM, lep wrote: > i just noticed the dollhouse page which sebastian posted had updated > itself. > > "UPDATED: In a stunning move, sources say Fox has renewed Joss > Whedon s Dollhouse for next fall." > > http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/05/dollhouse-second-season.html > > is this a joke? am i thrilled? please tell me! > In other Whedon-related news: http://www.leasticoulddo.com/# ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 04:28:24 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: OMG (100% dollhouse) kevin says: > To the extent it's not just a cruel joke I'd bet you, like me, are > thrilled. And surprised. And skeptical. i'm trying to wait out the skeptical period before becoming thrilled. it would be great to have another season. and just on general principle, it would be A Good Thing. > I'm happy about the Fringe renewal, too. I love Walter - we seem to have a > lot in common. And Agent Dunham is the coolest HSA agent ever, not to > mention looking far too much like an old girlfriend of mine... i haven't seen it -- is agent dunham the cate blanchett-y one? as ever, lauren p.s. re: television: this week's episode of "bones" was very amusing. i'd been tiring of it as of late (although, do not doubt: my love for dr. brennan is as strong as ever.) i was glad to see the season end on a fun and interesting episode. "bones" is pretty silly, but i'm fine with that: television needs as many geeks in labcoats as it can get. - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 01:44:21 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: OMG (100% dollhouse) On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 1:28 AM, lep wrote: > kevin says: > > To the extent it's not just a cruel joke I'd bet you, like me, are > > thrilled. And surprised. And skeptical. > > i'm trying to wait out the skeptical period before becoming thrilled. > it would be great to have another season. and just on general > principle, it would be A Good Thing. > > > I'm happy about the Fringe renewal, too. I love Walter - we seem to have > a > > lot in common. And Agent Dunham is the coolest HSA agent ever, not to > > mention looking far too much like an old girlfriend of mine... > > i haven't seen it -- is agent dunham the cate blanchett-y one? Well, blanchett-*ish*. Only with the more Slavic bone structure, and without the anemic frame. But Walter's the real fun. > > > as ever, > lauren > > p.s. re: television: this week's episode of "bones" was very amusing. > i'd been tiring of it as of late (although, do not doubt: my love for > dr. brennan is as strong as ever.) i was glad to see the season end > on a fun and interesting episode. "bones" is pretty silly, but i'm > fine with that: television needs as many geeks in labcoats as it can > get. > The big finale was seriously fun. Once I finally figured out what was going on. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 13:38:12 +0000 (UTC) From: michaeljbachman@comcast.net Subject: Re: I've fallen Not they they do much of it anymore, but The Chruch circa 1984-85 were certainly contenders. They are in town next month @ The Magic Bag and I'll send out a review. RH &B the V3B B hold the "currently still performing"B BPJ-RBE crown hands down. Michael B. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rex" To: "Michael Sweeney" Cc: "fegs" Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 10:59:12 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: I've fallen On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Michael Sweeney wrote: > B According to the "GO" credits, the harmonies on "I'm Fallng" are Bill, > Scott, Sean Nelson, and Morris. > Very interesting. B I don't think Rieflin has as yet done had a vocal mic on the REM tours... hell, he played guitar and bass at one time or another when I saw them last year, but nary a harmony. B Of course they have Mills and then Scott as Bill Berry/Stipe overdub replicator... > > > And I'm absolutely with you on that semi-random off-snare -- a very nice > touch. B That song is just about friggin' perfect... > It. Really. Is. I think Robyn & the V3 may well be able to lay claim to the title of Best Pure Jangle-Rock Band Ever. B I could explicate if called upon to do so, but I hope my meaning comes across clearly; if there are any other contenders besides the obvious Byrds, lob 'em my way and I'll shoot 'em down. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 08:26:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Video (DV) file conversion Does anyone have any recommendations for good free programs to convert DV files to AVI or MP4? "I love how (coffee) makes me feel. It's like my heart is trying to hug my brain!" -- Kenneth Parcell ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 15:50:49 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: Re: Pepe OK...I resisted long enough -- gotta chime in on all things cat...(feel free to skip or scroll past if a medium-long cat / name / history post (even with a fraction of Robyn content!) does not sound appealing to you...) (...besides, hey, all the 'Buffy' and 'BSG' crap that I've slogged through over the years...lol...) I currently have 4...(with two more longtimes having gone to "the kitty garden" (burial in the yard at my GF's suburban home) over the last few years). Starting with my missed beloveds: Selina - calico, closest pet I ever had in my life, named after -- of course - -- Selina Kyle...made it to 10 before cancer got her 4 summers back. I still miss her severely... Maggie - black, lived 18 yrs (about 17 w/me) until last summer, named (by my brother, who gave her to me when she was about 1 and he had a baby) after "the baby on 'The Simpsons,' because they're both small and they suck..." (his ALMOST humor...) She buddied up well withSelina when she came along as an 8-wk-old kitten...Spent much of her last few years (very skinny, melting away with her age) gently cuddled with (and sleeping every night with) my GF...as well as spending many days in my lap as I wrote / surfed... ...And, currently skulking lovingly around our place: Joey - around 10 or 11 (maybe even 12), longhaired grey, found abandoned, named -- quite ironically, since his true character is NOTHING like his namesake -- after "Joey Tribbiani" on "Friends" (Matt LeBlanc), because, at the time, he seemed good-looking, not too bright, and always hungry... "The Kittens" (still), Pumpkin (m) and Gracie (f), going on 7, siblings acquired when they were about 5-wk-old kittens (and gracefully adopted and raised by my kittenless Selina when they got home) from a pumpkin/Xmas tree farm (passed through by us with our then-5-yr-old niece after a trip to Disneyworld)...He (orange tabby, very big (not fat) cat) is (natch) "Punky" and "Pump"/"Pumpy" as well as "Bubbe," "Bubble," "Bubbly," and many other nicks, and -- simply and indescribably -- the funniest cat I've ever been around. Named, of course, for his color and the pumpkin farm. His sister (grey with beautiful oranges and whites beneath, coloring through) became the house's "Head Kitty in Charge" (bossing the others around, even her semi-gargantuan bro) when Mama Selina passed. Her name came from my favorite '80s and '90s baseball player, Mark Grace (plus her grey color)...AND due to the fact that, when we first got 'em (so tiny!), she was bigger than Pump, and, until their 1st vet visit a day or so later, we thought SHE was the male and he the (then littler) sis. She is said to have a "hole in her love tank," because she is always near us, seeking attention and affection. Lately, she has inherited/adopted Selina's former role of sleeping in my arms nearly part of every night... ...and -- 5% RH content! -- Sophia, large, fat, Maine Coon cat, found abandoned, maybe 4 or 5 now, given the stupid "Born Free" name of "Elsa" by my GF's bro-in-law...rechristened "Sophia"/"Sophie" by me, cuz...she loved sitting on our sofa AND for "Jewels for Sophia." She always "talks," giving random meows for looks, touches, etc. Still -- after a few years -- more "outsider" than the other 3, but...mostly accepted. (Gracie gives her occasional "I'm the kitty cop here!" swats to keep her in line...but her bro Pumpkin often cuddles in a soft pile with Sophie...) Mine all know and respond to their names...and, with me being home most of the time lately (freelancing, recovering, etc.), are very much my pack -- i.e. the GF goes to bed early, they all wait out with me, on and around my chair, desk, lap, shoulders, etc., until the "Daddy Kitty" goes to bed. ...OK, OK -- I know...TOO MUCH kitty stuff, but..[shrugs] that's the way I -- and my pussy(cat) posse -- rolls...Later... Michael "Selina's and Maggie's passing were bad enough...and Joey's getting up there...but, I simply cannot fathom losing either (or both!) of the 'Kittens' eventually...sigh..." Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail. has a new way to see what's up with your friends. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/WhatsNew?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutoria l_WhatsNew1_052009 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 15:42:52 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: 2q, 1p On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 2:04 AM, James Dignan wrote: > FWIW, the imdb listing of the credits has Robyn appearing as "Wedding >> Guest" >> rather than as "Self". >> > > That;'s a very unusual first name, though. How come there aren't more kids > christened "Wedding"? > There are certainly a lot of kids who *caused* weddings, however... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 15:47:12 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Pepe On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Michael Sweeney wrote: > > Michael "Selina's and Maggie's passing were bad enough...and Joey's getting > up > there...but, I simply cannot fathom losing either (or both!) of the > 'Kittens' > eventually...sigh..." Sweeney > That is, of course, the saddest part of having any pets (except for those of you with pet tortoises or elephants): we outlive them, and so we must mourn losing them. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 16:23:00 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Re: I've fallen On May 15, 2009, at 9:59 PM, Rex wrote: > I think Robyn & the V3 may well be able to lay claim to the title of > Best > Pure Jangle-Rock Band Ever. I could explicate if called upon to do > so, but > I hope my meaning comes across clearly; if there are any other > contenders > besides the obvious Byrds, lob 'em my way and I'll shoot 'em down. The Spongetones? - - Steve __________ I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl with a scythe. - John ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 17:58:40 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Pepe 2fs wrote: > > we outlive them, and so we must mourn losing them. That's why everyone should have kept at least one hamster: they are dying artistes, and they enure the youngster to the realisation that the best you're gonna get is to be found stiff and cold in bed (as with Silky, when I was 8) but there's always a chance of something much worse (Honey, when I was 6*). Fuck, I must stop listening to The Fall. Stewart *: wet-tail; basically hamster dysentery. Honey leaked to death. In a final ignominy, Dad accidentally dug up Honey's final resting place a year later. We watched the dried, flattened hamster carcase blow away across the garden. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 18:09:22 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: We're dealing with a menace (NR) - - Steve __________ There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs. - Kung Fu Monkey ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 19:40:52 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: Pepe Stewart says: >> we outlive them, and so we must mourn losing them. > > That's why everyone should have kept at least one hamster: they are > dying artistes, and they enure the youngster to the realisation that the > best you're gonna get is to be found stiff and cold in bed i like to believe that this is one argument for a benevolent god: that he was merciful enough to give no personalities to hamsters, mice, and gerbils. xo, lauren, whose rather idyllic childhood was interrupted mostly only for mouse and gerbil tragedies. p.s. bolton** will NEVER die!!!!! ** my father's jumbo poodle (named after the NY town, NOT the singer.) - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 17:51:20 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: hippie camp (nr) - - Steve __________ I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl with a scythe. - John ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 20:17:22 -0400 From: lep Subject: girls, yay from NYT news alert: << Rachel Alexandra, ridden by Calvin Borel, won the 134th Preakness Stakes at Pimlico Race Course in Baltimore on Saturday. She is the first filly to win the Preakness in 85 years. >> xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 17:35:28 -0700 From: Eleanore Adams Subject: Re: We're dealing with a menace (NR) AWESOME!!!! TOO THE MAXXXX ea On May 16, 2009, at 4:09 PM, Steve Schiavo wrote: > > > > - Steve > __________ > There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's > life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish > fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its > unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially > crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, > of course, involves orcs. - Kung Fu Monkey ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 20:09:33 -0700 From: "Nectar At Any Cost!" Subject: Is On-Topic, Bitches! from : >> Meloy conscripted Robyn Hitchcock, one of his musical idols, to lay down, via e-mailed files, some of his "noodle-y raga solo thing" on the instrumental "An Interlude", which Martine eventually mixed in with the "safety bouzouki solo" they recorded after Hitchcock briefly disappeared to Greenland on a climate-change-awareness expedition. ("Its like, of course, Robyn Hitchcock, just when you need him, hes in the North Pole on a boat," Meloy says.) << ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 22:01:13 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Pepe On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > 2fs wrote: > > > > we outlive them, and so we must mourn losing them. > > That's why everyone should have kept at least one hamster: they are > dying artistes, and they enure the youngster to the realisation that the > best you're gonna get is to be found stiff and cold in bed (as with > Silky, when I was 8) but there's always a chance of something much worse > (Honey, when I was 6*). > > Fuck, I must stop listening to The Fall. Why? And furthermore how does that follow? And third of all, that would make a great Fall album title. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 22:03:52 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: We're dealing with a menace (NR) On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Eleanore Adams wrote: > AWESOME!!!! TOO THE MAXXXX > FT FUKKEN W! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 04:21:19 -0400 From: lep Subject: movie talk hi feglist, *adventureland* (at the theatre): this movie cues up to "bastards of young." ...and that sums it up as well as anything else i could say about. really, it was a delight (this is absolutely true - i never use the phrase "it's was a delight" unless i kind of have to.) so, if it's still hanging around your local theatre, by all means, *go*. xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V17 #147 ********************************