From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V17 #121 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, April 20 2009 Volume 17 : Number 121 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Best band from Illinois [David Witzany ] Fwd: [Robyn Hitchcock] Robyn Hitchcock LIVE on The Current in Minneapolis ["Nectar At Any Cost!" ] Re: My name is "Eb", and I *am* an integrated guy [Tom Clark ] Re: Twitter ["C. Huff" ] Re: Nothing Makes Me Cry I Just Wanna Be Loved [Tom Clark ] Re: Twitter ["Stewart C. Russell" ] reap ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Twitter [2fs ] Re: reap [2fs ] WOW - New on Dime :The Soft Boys 2002-10-25 Maxwell's, Hoboken, NJ SBD !!! [HwyCDRrev@] Re: Reap [kevin studyvin ] Dear Eddie... from the Magic Bag ["Bri N" ] Re: zappa plays zappa and political correctness [2fs Subject: Best band from Illinois You mean Belleville. Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 11:36:55 -0500 From: michael wells Subject: Re: listMANIA! > all-time *Jeopardy!* bad-ass ken jennings picks the all-time best band from each state. i've got a few quibbles, of course. but it's a pretty cool run-down. W-w-w-w-ilco? For Illinois? Eddie, I hope you more than quibble with this! Michael "that one band from Rockford was OK" the Michaelster Dave. David Witzany ...one of nature's witzany@uiuc.edu bounds checkers ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 14:09:46 -0700 From: "Nectar At Any Cost!" Subject: Fwd: [Robyn Hitchcock] Robyn Hitchcock LIVE on The Current in Minneapolis think i'd forgotten to forward this. anybody in listening range of this station, who can record and dime-ify? *********** BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE *********** On 4/17/2009 at 1:50 PM Yep Roc Records wrote: Influential British singer-songwriter Robyn Hitchcock is scheduled to perform a solo acoustic set on tastemaker station 89.3 The Current (KCMP Minneapolis) Monday, April 20th at 1 p.m. CST. In addition to a performance and discussing the new Robyn Hitchcock and The Venus 3 album Goodnight Oslo, Robyn will do a "Theft of The Dial DJ takeover session" and spin some tunes for the audience. For more information on 89.3 The Current, and to stream the Robyn Hitchcock session live, . . ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 10:18:13 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: Reap Probably been beaten to this one by scores of others, but: JG Ballard James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 16:28:52 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and I *am* an integrated guy On Apr 17, 2009, at 7:20 PM, Nectar At Any Cost! wrote: > but is "Hurry For The Sky" supposed to be an homage to "Ghost Riders > In The > Sky", or a comment upon, or a cousin of, or a sequel to, or a > combination > of these? or what? If it's true that it's one of the tracks from the mythical Brian Eptstein movie, then my guess is it's not an homage. With that film in mind, I always picture "number 1" to be Paul, #2 is John, #3 is George, #4 is Ringo, and #5 is Brian. Although the first two could be reversed, considering the "JohnPaulGeorgeRingo" mantra we're all used to. > also, is anybody as fascinated as i am with squirrels' > athleticism? There are a few squirrels that live in the trees outside of my second floor office. A few months ago I looked up and saw two of the clinging to the side of a tree, screwing. It was phenomenal. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 16:31:28 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: RH review and promo post On Apr 19, 2009, at 10:23 AM, Michael Sweeney wrote: > > http://stonecipher.typepad.com/the_stonecipher_report/2009/04/robyn-hitchcock > -he-sounds-great-.html Nice job! Good to see the man getting some "normal" press coverage. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 16:24:56 -0700 (PDT) From: "C. Huff" Subject: Re: Twitter I for one fell hook, line, and sinker for this clown. lol now I feel very silly - do we think RH is really that computer savvy? Dylan certainly has hired computer savvy people but I think David Greenberger is RH's web guy and RH doesn't have Dylan's budget... I got a couple of DM Tweets, so...the phony person apologized to me, insisted that I did not know them personally (like, for example, if it had been one of you lovely Fegs I would have been crushed! lol) , and said "I hope you do get contact with him someday". Which I thought was about all they could say. Definitely creepy, definitely deceitful, and pretty dumb to keep it up. The whole point of Internet relationships is built on trust. Nuff said. I am not wasting anymore energy on this useless idiot. In other news, Stephen Colbert used the word "twatted" on the Today Show to describe a past tweet. lol which means of course now it is a real word. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 16:32:24 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Nothing Makes Me Cry I Just Wanna Be Loved On Apr 17, 2009, at 7:06 PM, spine@whale-mail.com wrote: > I'd like to know whether the bonus tracks are worth the price of > buying > the whole CD. Yes. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 16:51:01 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Twitter On Apr 19, 2009, at 4:24 PM, C. Huff wrote: > > In other news, Stephen Colbert used the word "twatted" on the Today > Show to > describe a past tweet. lol which means of course now it is a real > word. that was a hilarious clip, especially when Stephen came so close to cracking himself up. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/19/colbert-says-twat-on-the_n_176911.html - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 20:29:22 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Twitter C. Huff wrote: > > In other news, Stephen Colbert used the word "twatted" on the Today Show to > describe a past tweet. lol which means of course now it is a real word. It always was. UrbanDictionary to the rescue (and surprisingly accurate, for once): 1. To be hit on the head by another head or occasionally a fist. 2. To be very, very drunk, 1. "...this chav tried to steal my burger so I twatted him one..." 2. "I was so twatted last night, I still can't see who I'm sleeping with..." 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Russell wrote: > C. Huff wrote: > > > > In other news, Stephen Colbert used the word "twatted" on the Today Show > to > > describe a past tweet. lol which means of course now it is a real word. > > It always was. UrbanDictionary to the rescue (and surprisingly accurate, > for once): > > 1. To be hit on the head by another head or occasionally a fist. > 2. To be very, very drunk, > 1. "...this chav tried to steal my burger so I twatted him one..." > 2. "I was so twatted last night, I still can't see who I'm sleeping > with..." Well yes - but Colbert is using it in a new meaning (and with a different, if cousinly, derivation, I imagine). - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 20:22:27 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: reap Ladies and gentlemen, I give you...cow-based ASCII art! On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Stewart C. 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(also lots of Italy DVDs too ) http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=245792 The Soft Boys 2002-10-25 Maxwell's, Hoboken, NJ SBD Quite a nice recording with little known provenance. Likely to be the same SBD source as has been used for a previous-available matrix mix. Source: SBD -> ??? -> CDR CDR -> XLD 20090320 -> WAV -> flac --best, replay gain tagging There are a couple of dropouts, but I think these are from the original recording. XLD reported no errors or irregularities in reading the > 5 year old HP CD-Rs. Asking Tree gig links: First Set (CD 1) - http://www.jh3.com/robyn/base/gig.asp?chubb=1104 Second Set, Encore (CD 2) - http://www.jh3.com/robyn/base/gig.asp?chubb=1103 Track listing Disc 1 / First Set: 1 Hear My Brane 2 Kingdom Of Love 3 Queen Of Eyes 4 Unprotected Love 5 My Mind is Connected ... 6 Mr. Kennedy 7 Vegetable Man 8 (tuning) 9 La Cheriti 10 Man With The Lightbulb Head 11 Where Are The Prawns? 12 Underwater Moonlight Disc 2 / Second Set, Encore: 1 I Love Lucy 2 Pulse Of My Heart 3 (I Want to Be An) Anglepoise Lamp 4 Airscape 5 Narcissus 6 Disconnection Of The Ruling Class 7 Strings 8 Bells Of Rhymney 9 When I Was A Kid 10 Sudden Town 11 Insanely Jealous Encore: 12 Only The Stones Remain FFPs soft_boys-20021025-maxwells-sbd-d1-01-hear_my_brane.flac:9fba6b0440ffe361d23 cceca31418294 soft_boys-20021025-maxwells-sbd-d1-02-kingdom_of_love.flac:3e5176f663f947127 6d8771374ac3716 soft_boys-20021025-maxwells-sbd-d1-03-queen_of_eyes.flac:8fd2028d9f5f8cd8839 52b43e15438fa soft_boys-20021025-maxwells-sbd-d1-04-unprotected_love.flac:de7d3afd77d2dcf0 3ac97f3d31ae8d27 soft_boys-20021025-maxwells-sbd-d1-05-my_mind_is_connected.flac:3fff85375f64 9720f347e056d1cbd25f soft_boys-20021025-maxwells-sbd-d1-06-mr_kennedy.flac:1f7fbafcb804c8ca2e7058 38c0a830cd soft_boys-20021025-maxwells-sbd-d1-07-vegetable_man.flac:e89d6b3299deeb2a211 5628f619f71f1 soft_boys-20021025-maxwells-sbd-d1-08-tuning.flac:e98bfb5809f03ef875b6544690 a7ed21 soft_boys-20021025-maxwells-sbd-d1-09-la_cherite.flac:66f0d384bd1d607ad44a72 7b23226516 soft_boys-20021025-maxwells-sbd-d1-10-man_with_the_lightbulb_head.flac:91b73 32b56111789345943da6451307c soft_boys-20021025-maxwells-sbd-d1-11-where_are_the_prawns.flac:f451c1550ca0 845c181e26e63439c861 soft_boys-20021025-maxwells-sbd-d1-12-underwater_moonlight.flac:5ed0d25ae61e f07ddacce5eb1ec983ad soft_boys-20021025-maxwells-sbd-d2-01-i_love_lucy.flac:24e49de25d318cf87898d fdb6721ec05 soft_boys-20021025-maxwells-sbd-d2-02-pulse_of_my_heart.flac:d5ed1e67ff5c1ba 14dd437e9432cc776 soft_boys-20021025-maxwells-sbd-d2-03-i_want_to_be_an_anglepoise_lamp.flac:6 48412ee06840b171e4f57f504e410a1 soft_boys-20021025-maxwells-sbd-d2-04-airscape.flac:fbbae085496636827fd1071a 06dc54d9 soft_boys-20021025-maxwells-sbd-d2-05-narcissus.flac:1a4157caf49291634033207 8f267eb8e soft_boys-20021025-maxwells-sbd-d2-06-disconnection_of_the_ruling_class.flac :fcbefd5474787770b1b66e0ac6ac6f5b soft_boys-20021025-maxwells-sbd-d2-07-strings.flac:5575e0067553f444e5f03f30f 245710e soft_boys-20021025-maxwells-sbd-d2-08-bells_of_rhymney.flac:cf83f9d6 ad63d1daa5f633712100ad33 soft_boys-20021025-maxwells-sbd-d2-09-when_i_was_a_kid.flac:40714d2e03547b46 cecfd1e2bb5b9d67 soft_boys-20021025-maxwells-sbd-d2-10-sudden_town.flac:db06fef46327278159359 71ae3a23fb6 soft_boys-20021025-maxwells-sbd-d2-11-insanely_jealous.flac:3be31ef53ec4705f 18532e84dbdf4951 soft_boys-20021025-maxwells-sb d-d2-12-only_the_stones_remain.flac:00056cff59e6f627458ec9311a207cdd my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ **************Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000003) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 19:24:54 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Reap On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 3:18 PM, James Dignan wrote: > Probably been beaten to this one by scores of others, but: JG Ballard > > James > I knew it was coming since he went public about the cancer a while back, but still, what a loss. So wickedly ironic that one of the most ferocious mediocrity-baiters on the contemporary landscape was best known for a Spielberg movie. I'll always cherish my first encounter with his wonderfully skewed mind in The Crystal World back in the mid-sixties, and the beautiful, toxic America he rendered in the Vermilion Sands stories (which still have the potential to make a mindbender of a movie in the hands of someone like Cronenberg.) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 21:37:40 -0700 From: "Bri N" Subject: Dear Eddie... from the Magic Bag We determined it has been nearly 10 years since we all sat at the Magic Bag. How time flies! Hell, I think Michael Bachman, Mike Safran, and I all sat at the same table just 2 nights ago. We didn't know that Carissa was there until after the show, but she was there too in Nov, 1999. What a show. Lots from Black Snake Diamond Role (his best album to some people!). Gear, Shirts and Hair: Peter played a lovely shiny red Epiphone 12 string some of the time. Robyn wore some sort of flower shirt with buttoned collars, and Peters hair looks better longer now than when I saw him on last tour. He looks like Peter Buck from 15 years ago maybe, only wiser! Bill stood up this time and Scott wore sun glasses. Poor Robyn could only sing really low in the 1st part of the show. He was still recovering. There is a certain connection that is obvious between Peter and Bill. Peter kept giving Bill nods and smiles while Bill did fills. Scott's somehow the soul of the band. Here's a 3 song clip the minidisc recorder captured at our table: http://www.sendspace.com/file/lwwuhz The night began with Hots and ended in Oslo (which was a highlight for me). Hope you are well and neatly groomed. With Luv, The Magic Bag crew PS: we think it's about time you dusted off that old cassette recording from 1999 and digitized the shit out of that tasty morsel. I'd love to hear both the opening act Departure Lounge and Rock Armada recordings. Please do find the time, sir. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 09:55:34 +0930 From: minister of misinformation Subject: zappa plays zappa and political correctness I don't believe that we often discuss the output of Mr Frank Z , but I've been along to see Dweezils band a few times now and have been impressed , anyone else here seen the band ? Did you enjoy ? is it legit to replay zappa stuff or is just a lesser league tribute band ? They've recently lost Ray Willis as vocalist, who else could replace him? this was the setlist they played here last week and last time round they also did carolina hard core ectasy and muffin man - two of my favourites. ! Purple Lagoon Imaginary Diseases Dirty Love ( Dweezil inserted this one , its not on the setlist ) My Guitar Wants To Kill Your Mama Pygmy Twylyte Village Of The Sun Echidna's Arf Don't You Ever Wash That Thing Magic Fingers Tell Me You Love Me Mammy Anthem Yellow Snow St Alfonzo's Pancake Breakfast Father Oblivion King Kong Son Of Orange County More Trouble encore I'm The Slime Willie The Pimp Apostrophe of course franks music has always been controversial and a bit like rob crumb, the ladies almost universally hate him, I'm in two minds, I know a lot of his songs lyrics are seemingly misogenistic , purile or offensive, but Frank didn't spare anyone, he flung shit at all comers, men and women alike and I have to admire him for that. Also he HATED republicans with a vengeance, so I am prepared to throw away my liberal feelings in his case and just go with the flow. discuss anyone ? der commander BTW Eddie if eb ever wanted to come back, I would imagine your post headings just might put him off..... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 00:27:41 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Dear Eddie... from the Magic Bag On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 11:37 PM, Bri N wrote: > > Gear, Shirts and Hair: Peter played a lovely shiny red Epiphone 12 string > some of the time. Robyn wore some sort of flower shirt with buttoned > collars, and Peters hair looks better longer now than when I saw him on last > tour. He looks like Peter Buck from 15 years ago maybe, only wiser! Bill > stood up this time and Scott wore sun glasses. Scott always wears sunglasses, no? Can anyone prove he is not the bastard son of Ian Hunter? Just listened to the Seattle show from March that someone had posted - really regretting I'll be unable to catch the guys this tour. I was very close to driving up to Mpls tonight and crashing at my sister's house - but just too damned many student papers (which I am procrastinating about at this very moment). Anyway, I really liked the RAWK! version of "Creeped Out" and the songs where Sean Nelson added a third vocal part (they just should hire him on and be The Venus 4 - he can play keys, guitar, and sing...). Pretty decent recording, too. Robyn was in fine voice - too bad he since caught some bug or other. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 00:40:31 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: zappa plays zappa and political correctness On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 7:25 PM, minister of misinformation < archive@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > I don't believe that we often discuss the output of Mr Frank Z , > > of course franks music has always been controversial and a bit like > rob crumb, the ladies almost universally hate him, I'm in two minds, > I know a lot of his songs lyrics are seemingly misogenistic , purile > or offensive, but Frank didn't spare anyone, he flung shit at all > comers, men and women alike and I have to admire him for that. Also > he HATED republicans with a vengeance, so I am prepared to throw away > my liberal feelings in his case and just go with the flow. discuss > anyone ? Musically, there's very little question for me. I mean, he didn't get rock post-1977...but it hardly mattered, given how much else he did "get". As for the rest: I think at some point he became a little less equal-opportunity satirist and a little more crankish and, sadly, less tolerant and accepting than he should have been. In his later years, the digs at women and gays, however papered over with "satire," tended to cut more deeply than they should have, betraying a real sense of discomfort with certain aspects of feminism and gay sexuality. And unlike with some of his other targets, he never seemed to nuance the issues there: certainly, one could legitimately criticize *aspects* of feminism or gay liberation w/o dismissing the whole thing (and at times it seems that's what he did). The "puerility," I think, was more a function of his amusement that other people (in his mind, it was "other people" not him) were so freaked out by basic bodily functions: it's puerile, sure, but also purist, in the unusual sense of being uncorrupted by the disdain and distaste for the body and its functions we're socialized into as adults. In some ways he was a very traditional dude, just another middle-aged Italian guy. Who was it posted that link to Dweezil talking about that astonishing guitar rig he had? In the comments area below, some idiot said something to the effect that Dweezil called his father "Frank" because FZ was supposedly never there for him, being such a workaholic. I call bullshit: first, I think he called him "Frank" because FZ was not one to stand on ceremony of parental privilege or respect, but if FZ wasn't there for his kids, they seem to have turned out pretty damned fine, and they seem pretty normal, and devoted and respectful of his legacy. I figure FZ and Gail must have done a pretty good job: it must have been hard, sometimes, being the son or daughter of Frank Zappa, and yet they don't seem like weirdo egomaniacs at all. (Mostly based on Dweezil, and what I've read (not that much) of his other kids.) Anyway: who knows, maybe over time, if he'd lived, he'd have moved past that crankiness...but sadly, I fear it would have only intensified. I'd hate to imagine him as some cranky libertarian zealot...but it's one possible future he might have had. But his music: like it or not, it's just incredibly impressive the range of material he mastered, and that he did that mostly sans any formal training. It's pretty hard to find anyone to compare him to in that way - and I think his musical rep will only grow over time. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 23:56:50 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Dear Eddie... from the Magic Bag > > Gear, Shirts and Hair: Peter played a lovely shiny red Epiphone 12 string > > some of the time. Robyn wore some sort of flower shirt with buttoned > > collars, and Peters hair looks better longer now than when I saw him on > last > > tour. He looks like Peter Buck from 15 years ago maybe, only wiser! Bill > > stood up this time and Scott wore sun glasses. > > > Scott always wears sunglasses, no? Can anyone prove he is not the bastard > son of Ian Hunter? > That would explain some of Hunter's song "Sons And Daughters" I guess. Scott is generally behind the shades, and the last time I saw with RH he was also sporting a ratty-looking cowboy hat, fronting the Minus 5, which I chiefly remember for a kickin' "Hillbilly Drummer Girl." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 23:58:55 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: zappa plays zappa and political correctness Yeah, what he said. Also, "A Watermelon In Easter Hay" rules. On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 10:40 PM, 2fs wrote: > On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 7:25 PM, minister of misinformation < > archive@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > > > I don't believe that we often discuss the output of Mr Frank Z , > > > > of course franks music has always been controversial and a bit like > > rob crumb, the ladies almost universally hate him, I'm in two minds, > > I know a lot of his songs lyrics are seemingly misogenistic , purile > > or offensive, but Frank didn't spare anyone, he flung shit at all > > comers, men and women alike and I have to admire him for that. Also > > he HATED republicans with a vengeance, so I am prepared to throw away > > my liberal feelings in his case and just go with the flow. discuss > > anyone ? > > > Musically, there's very little question for me. I mean, he didn't get rock > post-1977...but it hardly mattered, given how much else he did "get". > > As for the rest: I think at some point he became a little less > equal-opportunity satirist and a little more crankish and, sadly, less > tolerant and accepting than he should have been. In his later years, the > digs at women and gays, however papered over with "satire," tended to cut > more deeply than they should have, betraying a real sense of discomfort > with > certain aspects of feminism and gay sexuality. And unlike with some of his > other targets, he never seemed to nuance the issues there: certainly, one > could legitimately criticize *aspects* of feminism or gay liberation w/o > dismissing the whole thing (and at times it seems that's what he did). The > "puerility," I think, was more a function of his amusement that other > people > (in his mind, it was "other people" not him) were so freaked out by basic > bodily functions: it's puerile, sure, but also purist, in the unusual sense > of being uncorrupted by the disdain and distaste for the body and its > functions we're socialized into as adults. > > In some ways he was a very traditional dude, just another middle-aged > Italian guy. Who was it posted that link to Dweezil talking about that > astonishing guitar rig he had? In the comments area below, some idiot said > something to the effect that Dweezil called his father "Frank" because FZ > was supposedly never there for him, being such a workaholic. I call > bullshit: first, I think he called him "Frank" because FZ was not one to > stand on ceremony of parental privilege or respect, but if FZ wasn't there > for his kids, they seem to have turned out pretty damned fine, and they > seem > pretty normal, and devoted and respectful of his legacy. I figure FZ and > Gail must have done a pretty good job: it must have been hard, sometimes, > being the son or daughter of Frank Zappa, and yet they don't seem like > weirdo egomaniacs at all. (Mostly based on Dweezil, and what I've read (not > that much) of his other kids.) > > Anyway: who knows, maybe over time, if he'd lived, he'd have moved past > that > crankiness...but sadly, I fear it would have only intensified. I'd hate to > imagine him as some cranky libertarian zealot...but it's one possible > future > he might have had. > > But his music: like it or not, it's just incredibly impressive the range of > material he mastered, and that he did that mostly sans any formal training. > It's pretty hard to find anyone to compare him to in that way - and I think > his musical rep will only grow over time. > > > > -- > > ...Jeff Norman > > The Architectural Dance Society > http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V17 #121 ********************************