From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V17 #115 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, April 14 2009 Volume 17 : Number 115 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: REAP (Flies on the Windscreen) [kevin studyvin ] Re: Reap [kevin studyvin ] a couple of live RH&V3 tracks [2fs ] Re: Magic Window toy [kevin studyvin ] Re: thanks for the warning [Rex ] Re: Magic Window toy [lep ] Re: Reap [Rex ] Re: Magic Window toy [kevin studyvin ] Re: Magic Window toy [Jeremy Osner ] Re: Pretension in rock [2fs ] Re: Magic Window toy [Rex ] Re: thanks for the warning [vivien lyon ] Re: Magic Window toy [vivien lyon ] Vermont: Tuesday CANCELED:RH + V3 [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] the fun returns! [2fs ] Re: thanks for the warning [Rex ] listMANIA! ["Nectar At Any Cost!" ] Re: listMANIA! [lep ] Re: Magic Window toy [lep ] Re: listMANIA! [2fs ] Re: listMANIA! [lep ] Re: Magic Window toy [lep ] Re: the fun returns! [Rex ] Re: the fun returns! [Tom Clark ] Re: Magic Window toy [Rex ] Re: Magic Window toy [lep ] Re: Magic Window toy [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Magic Window toy [Rex ] Re: the fun returns! [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Magic Window toy [lep ] Re: the fun returns! [Capuchin ] Re: listMANIA! [2fs ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:50:16 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: REAP (Flies on the Windscreen) Sad to hear it. On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Tom Clark wrote: > On Apr 13, 2009, at 3:11 PM, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > In addition to Marilyn Chambers, Harry Kalas, and Eve Sedgwick: >> >> Mark "The Bird" Fidrych >> http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4065778 >> >> Bruce Snyder >> http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4065325 >> > > Add to that my wife's step-father, Dick "Pedro" Dillon, and thus we cut out > vacation week short. > > Life is short, people. Make the most of it. > > -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 18:17:09 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Reap Those were some seriously weird comments in there. The only really funny one was how they should get Robert Blake to play Phil in the movie. If you recall, in all of Neil Young's early (like, Buffalo Springfield-contemporary) interviews he'd rave on about Phil Spector and how he'd created the sound of modern rock'n'roll. Then later, of course, he had these tangential connections to the Manson Family. Neil's always kept some interesting company, which may have some bearing on lines like "I park my Aerostar/with a loaded gun and sweet dreams of you..." In re: Spector, would anybody chance to have a line on mp3s of the 1977 Warner/Philles Phil Spector's Greatest Hits? Ages out of print and very nearly impossible to find a hard copy. On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > Phil Spector's freedom > > http://www.avclub.com/articles/phil-spector-found-guilty-of-murder,26585/ > > > > > "I love how (coffee) makes me feel. It's like my heart is trying to hug my > brain!" -- Kenneth Parcell ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 20:18:58 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: a couple of live RH&V3 tracks Here: < http://www.chromewaves.net/2009/04/review-of-robyn-hitchcocks-goodnight-oslo-and-giveaway/ > - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 18:26:06 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Magic Window toy > we were unfortunate to stand about two yards from an > alcohol-poisoning-level drunk who shouted for "whipping post" about 20 > times, and, worse, treated us to some of his own harmonies, and tried > to strike up a conversation with mr. buck. Honest to gawd, "whipping post?" That was superceded by "free bird" decades ago. I guess yr soused acquaintance there never got the memo. (I was forced to sit through a Pablo Cruise set once when they opened for UK [I know, right? Lordy, did they ever suck] and amused myself by alternating calls for WP and "Louie Louie," but that was in a whole other century.) > at one point, the drunk > caught me gawking at him and seemed to think it would be amusing to > stand closer to me. i (being so good with the witty comeback) gave > him the finger. > > glad to hear you're enjoying the island. how's the snorkeling? > > xo > > -- > "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 18:29:54 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: thanks for the warning On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 9:45 AM, vivien lyon wrote: > I took a photo of something similar in Durango, Colorado this summer. I > think it was a Sphinx moth. Here's the closest match I've found: http://www.butterfliesandmoths.org/species?l=3477 So I think Dr. Lyon's species identification is in order. They are desert dwellers, so that all checks out. Apparently these guys are pretty closely aligned with the "hummingmoths", but this individual seemed pretty logy; it was hard to imagine him vibrating his wings to hovering speed. Maybe if he bought a china pug... Speaking of which, it pays to google "china pug" every few years and see what's new. http://www.flickr.com/photos/bugbunnybambam/2256070264/ You can do the same with "clickot", but as yet the interwebs have not traced the etymology of that one any farther back than Robyn's lyrics. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:34:51 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: Magic Window toy kevin says: >> we were unfortunate to stand about two yards from an >> alcohol-poisoning-level drunk who shouted for "whipping post" about 20 >> times, and, worse, treated us to some of his own harmonies, and tried >> to strike up a conversation with mr. buck. > > > > Honest to gawd, "whipping post?" That was superceded by "free bird" decades > ago. I guess yr soused acquaintance there never got the memo. he threw in the occasional "free bird" as well, but it lost out to "whipping post" at least 1 to 5. i'm familiar with "free bird" requests; "whipping post" was a new to me. xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 18:36:12 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Reap On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 6:17 PM, kevin studyvin wrote: > Those were some seriously weird comments in there. The only really funny > one was how they should get Robert Blake to play Phil in the movie. > > If you recall, in all of Neil Young's early (like, Buffalo > Springfield-contemporary) interviews he'd rave on about Phil Spector and > how > he'd created the sound of modern rock'n'roll. Then later, of course, he > had > these tangential connections to the Manson Family. Neil's always kept some > interesting company, which may have some bearing on lines like "I park my > Aerostar/with a loaded gun and sweet dreams of you..." > Well, he heard that Laurel Canyon was full of famous stars, but he hates them worse than lepers and he kills them in their cars. (Actually, I was disappointed to learn that "Revolution Blues" was specifically based on Manson: if you look at the lyrics about the computer factories and so forth, it sounds way more like pre-cog about Kazinsky/McVeigh types.) (But that song does rule. And that tuba-sounding Rick Danko bassline *will* kick your ass, if the Crosby-sonic electric rhythm guitar doesn't get there first.) - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 18:49:01 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Magic Window toy On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 6:34 PM, lep wrote: > kevin says: > >> we were unfortunate to stand about two yards from an > >> alcohol-poisoning-level drunk who shouted for "whipping post" about 20 > >> times, and, worse, treated us to some of his own harmonies, and tried > >> to strike up a conversation with mr. buck. > > > > > > > > Honest to gawd, "whipping post?" That was superceded by "free bird" > decades > > ago. I guess yr soused acquaintance there never got the memo. > > he threw in the occasional "free bird" as well, but it lost out to > "whipping post" at least 1 to 5. i'm familiar with "free bird" > requests; "whipping post" was a new to me. > Some of us recall when it wasn't possible to get through a rock concert without some citizen in the back of the hall somewhere hollering out "WHIPPING POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOST!!!" A hilarious instance of this is documented by Frank Zappa in a live set recorded in Helsinki in 1974: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Can't_Do_That_on_Stage_Anymore,_Vol._2 which is highly recommended, if you can find it. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:59:09 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: Magic Window toy Favorite Drunk-Shouting-Out-Title image will always be the guy at the Hot Tuna show a couple years back screaming "Play Embryonic Fuckin' Journey!!!1!!" as they strumed the opening chords to "Hesitation Blues". J If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:25:56 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Pretension in rock On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Great Quail wrote: > > > One of the reasons that people criticize rock operas, concept albums, and > prog as "pretentious" is because of the genre borrowing that occurs -- or > more to the point, the sense of artistic *trespass,* the alteration in > standard "form." > Now, I think there's another type of pretension as well, perhaps a "lesser" > sin. If borrowing from other tropes sometimes leads to a sin of *form*, > extending one's own medium may lead to a sin of *function*. > > For instance, let's look at Sonic Youth's "Daydream Nation." Sonic Youth > extends the limits of their medium without necessarily borrowing from other > genres; by indulging in feedback, atonalism, and massive distortion, they > are still working well within the parameters of an electric rock group. > However, the *function* of the songs is what's changed, and therefore > somewhat objectionable to some -- let's face it, the function of a Sonic > Youth song is generally not to convey a typical story in a typical rock > narrative. However, most songs on "Tommy," "The Wall," or "Jesus Christ > Superstar" -- or even most Rush songs -- may differ in form, but still > adhere to a typical rock function, which is essentially a narrative one. A couple of other factors: years ago, in my stunted life as an academic, I attended an academic conference on rock music some Illinois grad students had put together. Mostly pretty boring or predictable stuff - but one paper I do remember was delivered by a young British expat who'd trained as a musicologist, who had some interesting things to say about the way musicology - by which she meant the theoretical study of music - had been developed with specific reference to the Western art music tradition (generally known as "classical" music) and that it often had little applicability. Harmony, for example, tends to have a sort of structural, even teleological function in classical music, in that each chord tends to push or pull toward or away from the home key (obviously she's speaking of tonal music) - whereas in much popular music, chords are used texturally or coloristically. Roxy Music's "Out of the Blue" may not make much sense as a chord *progression* - but it makes great sense as a succession of sometimes radically different chordal colors juxtaposed to their predecessors. Crap. I was going somewhere with this, but got lost. Anyway: rock musicians tend (broadly) to be either songwriters or texturalists as composers. The former can write nice melodies and chord sequences, but often run into trouble trying to extend the form to greater length. Similarly, texturalists can write...nice textures, but they too run into trouble with larger-scale classical structures. (This is why, I'd argue, "art rock" works best when the "art music" that influences it is 20th century post-tonal stuff, rather than Bach or 19th century stuff.) So classically trained folks listen to rock composers' long-form works, and find them flabby, structureless, and directionless. (And indeed, they often are - incidentally, I find that the texturalists generally succeed better than the songwriters, simply because "texture" is less time-based, and they already have experience varying the length of their textural explorations.) Maybe even more important is that rock has a still quite lively cult of the amateur. It would be inconceivable for a classical musician to say one day, hey, I'll learn to play the oboe, and then record on the instrument three weeks after beginning lessons on the instrument...yet rock guys do that sort of thing all the time. The sounds that result are not exactly what the classical world would deem acceptable in tone (wanna make a classically trained cellist sputter incomprehensibly? Play the first Electric Light Orchestra album - the one with all of Roy Wood's grotesque cello sawing all over it. Me, I think "grotesque" and "sawing" are exactly what he was going for, and certainly the rough-hewn quality of his playing is better suited to the songs than conventional cello playing would have been. Same's true of jazz - you woodshed for years, and you *master* your instrument. Whole areas of rock could give a rat's ass about technique so long as the feeling's there - that attitude doesn't get you very far in many other genres. (Metal's a partial exception...to the extent that yr guitar-shredding fetishists seem to care not at all about content, only how many notes-per-second someone can play.) What's amusing to me is (to take some examples I listened to recently) critics going on about how Jethro Tull's _Thick as a Brick_ is just a series of short songs and fragments strung together, and _A Passion Play_ was composed as a whole. Uh...maybe, but you couldn't prove it by me. Almost every long-form rock song is long because it's made up of a series of shorter, near-independent songs and fragments strung together (with greater or lesser skill: this isn't inherently a criticism) - either that, or there's a long improvisation section. Sometimes both (Pink Floyd's "Echoes"). The better writers will recognize that if you bring back some of those fragments - little motifs - the piece will *feel* more unified. (Incidentally how come no one ever talks about Marvin Gaye's _What's Going On_ in this context? That sure as hell is a concept album, certainly musically with that particular theme weaving its way through about half of the album's tracks) Work avoidance is now...over. For a while. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 19:27:05 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Magic Window toy On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 6:34 PM, lep wrote: > > he threw in the occasional "free bird" as well, but it lost out to > "whipping post" at least 1 to 5. i'm familiar with "free bird" > requests; "whipping post" was a new to me. This'll probably cost me some cred, but I think I only became aware of the "Whipping Post" thing two or three years ago myself. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 20:11:59 -0700 From: vivien lyon Subject: Re: thanks for the warning On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Rex wrote: > http://www.butterfliesandmoths.org/species?l=3477 > So I think Dr. Lyon's species identification is in order. They are desert > dwellers, so that all checks out. > *nods modestly* I used to want to be an entemologist. Or was that an etymologist? > You can do the same with "clickot", but as yet the interwebs have not > traced the etymology of that one any farther back than Robyn's lyrics. > Oh! OH OH OH! I know this one! That's "cliquot," Rex. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 20:14:13 -0700 From: vivien lyon Subject: Re: Magic Window toy On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Rex wrote: > > This'll probably cost me some cred, but I think I only became aware of the > "Whipping Post" thing two or three years ago myself. > Cred duly deducted. If you have any questions about your cred account balance, please don't hesitate to call one of our customer service representatives. Hold time will be inversely proportional to the cred remaining in your account. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 23:16:08 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Vermont: Tuesday CANCELED:RH + V3 CANCELED: 104.7 The Point & Harpoon welcome ROBYN HITCHCOCK AND THE VENUS 3 Jennifer O'Connor Showcase Lounge Tuesday, April 14th ROBYN HITCHCOCK AND THE VENUS 3 http://www.myspace.com/robynhitchcock We regrettably announce that this show has been canceled. Sorry for any inconvenience. If you purchased tickets online or via the phone, your credit card will be refunded automatically, otherwise, a refund is available at the point of purchase. http://www.highergroundmusic.com/calendar/show/3180/ my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ **************The Average US Credit Score is 692. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221621489x1201450100/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26h mpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DAprilAvgfooterNO62) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 22:51:01 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: the fun returns! Remember the good times we had discussing alphabetization? Well here's a new one! Remember the late-nineties "post-rock" band Paul Newman? Yes, the band is named "Paul Newman" ... but it also has a member (one of two bass players - late nineties also a peak era for bands with two bass players) named Paul Newman. So: under "P" or "N"? (I put it under P because I'm guessing that the band wouldn't be called "Rob Schlingheim" if the one bass player had been named Rob Schlingheim: it's sorta named after him only because of the actor sharing his name.) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 20:54:18 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: thanks for the warning On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 8:11 PM, vivien lyon wrote: > > Oh! OH OH OH! I know this one! > > That's "cliquot," Rex. > Aha! At last! It's certainly this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLV6jygKNCM ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 20:57:20 -0700 From: "Nectar At Any Cost!" Subject: listMANIA! . all-time *Jeopardy!* bad-ass ken jennings picks the all-time best band from each state. i've got a few quibbles, of course. but it's a pretty cool run-down. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 00:22:51 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: listMANIA! Nectar At Any Cost! says: > . > > all-time *Jeopardy!* bad-ass ken jennings picks the all-time best band from > each state. i've got a few quibbles, of course. but it's a pretty cool > run-down. for no reason in particular, i read "about ken". is it me, or his children being named dylan and caitlin is a little too angels-and-insects creepy? on a more positive note, i thought his double major choices of english and computer science was pretty interesting. xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 00:28:26 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: Magic Window toy Rex says: > > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 6:34 PM, lep wrote: >> >> he threw in the occasional "free bird" as well, but it lost out to >> "whipping post" at least 1 to 5. i'm familiar with "free bird" >> requests; "whipping post" was a new to me. > > This'll probably cost me some cred, but I think I only became aware of the > "Whipping Post" thing two or three years ago myself. but do you get positive or negative cred? xo p.s. i.e. i win, right? - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 00:03:19 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: listMANIA! On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:22 PM, lep wrote: > Nectar At Any Cost! says: > > . > > > for no reason in particular, i read "about ken". is it me, or his > children being named dylan and caitlin is a little too > angels-and-insects creepy? "Angels-and-insects"? Both "Dylan" and "Caitlin" (various spellings) are distressingly trendy given names these days, though - esp. about ten-twenty years ago. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 01:40:48 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: listMANIA! 2fs says: > On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:22 PM, lep wrote: >> >> Nectar At Any Cost! says: >> > . >> >> >> for no reason in particular, i read "about ken". is it me, or his >> children being named dylan and caitlin is a little too >> angels-and-insects creepy? > > "Angels-and-insects"? > > Both "Dylan" and "Caitlin" (various spellings) are distressingly trendy > given names these days, though - esp. about ten-twenty years ago. it's the combination of the two. the first dylan that comes to mind when i hear the name dylan is dylan thomas, and first caitlin is caitlin thomas i.e. wife of dylan. as ever, lauren p.s. and put "angels and insect" in the NetQ. it's good enough that i like it despite its being a...period piece. or with that one i believe you can also read the book upon which it was based. - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 01:42:34 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: Magic Window toy Jeremy says: > lep recalled, >> although i >> almost always had either a mouse (or two) or a gerbil (or two), my mom >> would never let me get a hamster. > > How awful! What did you use to power your inventions? mice. xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 22:43:51 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: the fun returns! On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 8:51 PM, 2fs wrote: > > So: under "P" or "N"? P. Bands with two bassists surely peaked in the *early* nineties, though, right? With Ned's Atomic Dustbin and... those other guys, yeah? - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 22:44:30 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: the fun returns! On Apr 13, 2009, at 8:51 PM, 2fs wrote: > Remember the late-nineties "post-rock" band Paul Newman? Yes, the > band is > named "Paul Newman" ... but it also has a member (one of two bass > players - > late nineties also a peak era for bands with two bass players) named > Paul > Newman. > > So: under "P" or "N"? (I put it under P because I'm guessing that > the band > wouldn't be called "Rob Schlingheim" if the one bass player had been > named > Rob Schlingheim: it's sorta named after him only because of the actor > sharing his name.) I'm with you on this one. I'm currently working with a French maker of iPod accessories who is concerned about the alphabetization he gets back when querying the iPod. He can't understand that an English host system would put The Doors in the "D" slot while a French system would put The Doors in the "T" slot. And of course iTunes puts letters before numbers, so a standard ASCII sort doesn't work there either. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 22:44:44 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Magic Window toy On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 9:28 PM, lep wrote: > > > p.s. i.e. i win, right? > Always, dear, and before you even begin. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 01:54:26 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: Magic Window toy Rex says: > > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 9:28 PM, lep wrote: >> >> >> p.s. i.e. i win, right? > > Always, dear, and before you even begin. has your wife told you lately that you're a wonderful husband? xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 08:02:36 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Magic Window toy - -- Rex is rumored to have mumbled on 13. April 2009 19:27:05 -0700 regarding Re: Magic Window toy: > On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 6:34 PM, lep wrote: > >> >> he threw in the occasional "free bird" as well, but it lost out to >> "whipping post" at least 1 to 5. i'm familiar with "free bird" >> requests; "whipping post" was a new to me. > > > This'll probably cost me some cred, but I think I only became aware of the > "Whipping Post" thing two or three years ago myself. I'm a "Whipping Post" virgin. A friend loves the Allman Brothers, so I've had it in my iTunes Library for a while, but AFAICT I'm listening to it for the first time now (studio version). I don't have the time for the live version right now, which I guess the requests are based on. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 23:03:09 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Magic Window toy On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 10:54 PM, lep wrote: > Rex says: > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 9:28 PM, lep wrote: > >> > >> > >> p.s. i.e. i win, right? > > > > Always, dear, and before you even begin. > > has your wife told you lately that you're a wonderful husband? > Even more remarkably, my ex-wife told a roomful of people that I'm a great parent. Never thought I'd live to see the day! - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 08:06:05 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: the fun returns! - -- Rex is rumored to have mumbled on 13. April 2009 22:43:51 -0700 regarding Re: the fun returns!: > Bands with two bassists surely peaked in the *early* nineties, though, > right? With Ned's Atomic Dustbin and... those other guys, yeah? The only ones I remember are Hugo Largo. They did a beautiful cover of "Fancy", only at the time I didn't know it was a cover. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 02:09:01 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: Magic Window toy Rex says: > > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 10:54 PM, lep wrote: >> >> Rex says: >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 9:28 PM, lep wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> p.s. i.e. i win, right? >> > >> > Always, dear, and before you even begin. >> >> has your wife told you lately that you're a wonderful husband? > > Even more remarkably, my ex-wife told a roomful of people that I'm a great > parent. Never thought I'd live to see the day! well, have you been "yes, dear"-ing her? works on wives and ex-wives alike. xo p.s. to be fair, the "yes, dear" works for women when talking to men as well, but for a different set of occasions. - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 01:28:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: the fun returns! On Mon, 13 Apr 2009, 2fs wrote: > Remember the good times we had discussing alphabetization? > > Well here's a new one! > > Remember the late-nineties "post-rock" band Paul Newman? Yes, the band is > named "Paul Newman" ... but it also has a member (one of two bass players - > late nineties also a peak era for bands with two bass players) named Paul > Newman. > > So: under "P" or "N"? (I put it under P because I'm guessing that the band > wouldn't be called "Rob Schlingheim" if the one bass player had been named > Rob Schlingheim: it's sorta named after him only because of the actor > sharing his name.) Well, as we all know, I would sort them under P either way (and The Doors under T). My friend Morgan Grace has a band called Morgan Grace. A couple of years back, she played two slots at the PDXPop festival because she was nominated as a solo artist and as a band. So what would you schizophrenic philers do with her records? File them in two different places? J. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 07:02:26 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: listMANIA! On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:40 AM, lep wrote: > 2fs says: > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:22 PM, lep wrote: > >> > >> Nectar At Any Cost! says: > >> > . > >> > >> > >> for no reason in particular, i read "about ken". is it me, or his > >> children being named dylan and caitlin is a little too > >> angels-and-insects creepy? > > > > "Angels-and-insects"? > > > > Both "Dylan" and "Caitlin" (various spellings) are distressingly trendy > > given names these days, though - esp. about ten-twenty years ago. > > it's the combination of the two. the first dylan that comes to mind > when i hear the name dylan is dylan thomas, and first caitlin is > caitlin thomas i.e. wife of dylan. > > as ever, > lauren > > p.s. and put "angels and insect" in the NetQ. Ah. I suspect your reactions are...specialized. But that's the way names work - I've known people who've known one person with a relatively unusual name, and their associations can't shake that one situation. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V17 #115 ********************************